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Snape’s gang | 22 💫 ENG/ESP |

[dinarosie]

At fifteen, Lily told Severus he was obsessed. That he should be grateful James saved him. That he needed to stop fixating.

Years later, she marries James.

And one day, she stumbles across a map that shows every student’s movements in real time. An invisibility cloak that lets you follow anyone, anywhere, unnoticed. And she learns Remus was a werewolf—had been for years, right there at school.

And maybe, just for a moment—just one— she feels the weight of that realization:

“He wasn’t obsessed. He was scared. He didn’t feel safe… and I didn’t listen.”

[empty96myth2]

Lily doesn’t have to worry, her boys are asleep. 😴

[intotheswollenriver]

Walburga and Eileen

[maxdibert]

You know what I find strange? How Severus and Lily's relationship is full of parallels that show how they are both wrong, that they can both be hypocritical and that's why they can't communicate. She minimizes the things the maradeurs do, and he minimizes the things his housemates do (both are defending the people in their respective houses). When he calls Lily a mudblood, she responds by using the same name his bullies use for him. Just as Severus ends up with people who are against Lily, and probably wanted to push him away from her, Lily went through the same thing.

All in all, their actions mirror each other throughout the story, and yet it’s baffling how Lily's side is still positioned as the "right" one. If both characters are shown to make similar mistakes and hurt each other in comparable ways, why is one ultimately seen as morally justified while the other is cast as "wrong"?

I know that it doesn't seem comparable because Severus ends up in the "dark side". But it is understandable when you consider that they were the ones who offered him support when the so-called "heroes" failed to. And similarly, Lily ends up in the "light side" because they offered her the same support. And yes, that's one more parallel.

In a normal story where the author wasn’t desperately trying to force the reader to think according to her own moral code—or constantly trying to draw a clear, almost caricaturesque line between the “good” characters and the “bad” ones, the relationship between Severus and Lily could have been truly interesting precisely because neither of them ever really understood the other.

Severus was too busy trying to fit in somewhere, anywhere, to escape his shitty situation, and Lily was too busy enjoying the popularity and status that came with it. They both clung to their respective positions and never made an effort to see things from the other’s perspective.

The thing is—and this is why Lily’s character portrayal is so often criticized—that just as anyone can see how Severus’ behavior is questionable, so is Lily’s. Because she isn’t a better friend than him, nor is she more understanding. She actually comes across as pretty self-centered and uninterested in going beyond what she thinks is right. She’s quite narcissistic.

And that would be totally fine—and really interesting—if Rowling and her fans didn’t insist on portraying her as some kind of blessed saint and moral compass for all humanity. Because no one gets to be the epitome of morality while simultaneously gaslighting their friends.

[valushk4]

Thinking about them again

[lovelysevvy]

People get very vocal when you say you don't agree with the "Snape is objectively ugly" nonsense, sorry, it's not my fault I don't like calling people ugly or labeling them as such....

I just think it's strange that your way of defending someone is by calling them a degrading adjective, but that's just me

[lovelysevvy]

"i'm enemy territory"

But it's just me watching other Sev fan's encourage and buy into the "Let Snape be ugly" narrative, when beauty is subjective and thinking someone is ugly just because they don't have a straight nose is weird (Like, seriously. The dehumanization of Severus's features is just weird. He's just a normal guy, not a monster, bfr)

[tiphprince]

When it comes to Snape being ugly, it probably depends on the way people define "ugly".

Look at photos Argus Filch from the movies, then at photos of David Bradley, his actor. One looks ugly and even repulsive, the other looks like a perfectly normal older man.

Ugliness is rarely something that can not be changed, but rather it depends on a lot of factors. Most people are just average looking, those who aren't taking care of themselves often end up into the "ugly" category, while those who do put a lot of effort into themselves will be "good looking".

Snape isn't ugly because he has a hooked nose, what makes him ugly is most things about his appearance that created a whole kind of perception of him. Greasy hair, yellow uneven teeth, unhealthy skin color, big hooked nose, and most importantly: an almost permanent sneer on his face.

Neither of those features taken separately are ugly, but the whole of them together and the fact that Snape in general has a very unpleasant attitude, do not paint a nice picture.

That's what I mean when I say that Snape is ugly. He's not a monster, and his ugliness isn't defined by just having a big nose, but he's also not handsome because he does not care about being handsome.

[lovelysevvy]

It seems to me that you and I view beauty differently. For starters, calling someone "ugly" because they don't fit established beauty standards or because they don't match what you consider attractive seems questionable to me.

No one is truly "ugly," and the mere thought of labeling someone as such seems superficial to me.

Severus's facial features are quite common, in fact, and are even considered part of a beauty standard in some parts of the world.

Crooked teeth are considered beautiful in Japan, for example, and even if they weren't, most people don't have perfectly straight, white teeth.

Hooked noses are beautiful! Period. There's nothing to argue about. (As someone who loves the arts, these types of noses create beautiful profiles, I love them.)

And the greasy hair—at least 1 in 4 people have greasy hair genetically—it's so common that I don't even see how it could affect whether someone is seen as "ugly" or "beautiful."

His skin... Are we really going to ignore that there was a time in history when looking sick and pale was a standard of beauty?

Beauty is subjective, and everyone has their own perspective on what is "beautiful" or "ugly".

"allowing Snape to be ugly" is something that bothers ME and will continue to bother me, because in my opinion, what it does is perpetuate harmful beauty standards and the idea that these features together (or separately) make someone ugly, or worse, deserving of being humiliated and mocked, as the books encourage throughout. It only normalizes hatred and mockery of people in real life who have these features.

Also, the image that people who constantly repeat "Snape's right to be ugly" usually have in their heads is a distorted, ridiculed, and exaggerated image of the character's features to generate mockery or disgust.

And this is a reality in the fandom. You just have to see the way people react to certain fanart or fancast, even those that meet all the canonical descriptions of the character, for some people they are not good because they aren't "ugly enough" (And it never will be, because the dehumanization that surrounds Snape as a character has created this image where, if the character does not disgust you when you see him, then he is not Snape)

[lovelysevvy]

"i'm enemy territory"

But it's just me watching other Sev fan's encourage and buy into the "Let Snape be ugly" narrative, when beauty is subjective and thinking someone is ugly just because they don't have a straight nose is weird (Like, seriously. The dehumanization of Severus's features is just weird. He's just a normal guy, not a monster, bfr)

[irie-kun306]

[lovelysevvy]

if you think Severus is responsible for the Potter's dead, then you also have to blame Sirius Black bc he was the one who decided to make Peter the secret keeper.

I guess they both have their blood on their hands, right?

If you think this sounds stupid, it's because it is. Neither Severus nor Sirius are guilty of the Potters' deaths. The only ones responsible are Peter and Voldemort. Trying to change that fact not only invalidates the entire plot but also diminishes the characters' actions (such as Peter's betrayal, Voldemort's decision to interpret the prophecy as being about a baby, and Voldemort choosing one in which he unconsciously saw himself reflected).

[lovelysevvy]

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[reignof-fyre]

As someone who dislikes the marauders immensely, I find it hilarious that sirius called himself and his cohorts out with the quote "If you want to know what a man's like, take a look at how he treats his inferiors, not his equals."

Sirius treats his "inferiors" like trash. He treats his equals like gods. He treats Severus (poor, abused, lower working class) like garbage as a rich, entitled teen and man. He treats Kreacher like shit, and he's Sirius' literal slave. James treated his inferiors like shit. As does Remus, and Peter, too.

The marauders aren't good people, and Sirius tells us that himself lol

[lovelysevvy]

Harry and Severus Occlumency lessons were my favorite part of OOTP bc they're literally like this:

A flashback of Harry being chased by a dog as a child appears, followed by one of him about to kiss Cho.

Severus:... So, who owns the dog?

Harry:...

Harry: My Aunt Marge

[lovelysevvy]

Controversial opinion, but I think it's crazy how many people only focus on Lily's hurt feelings during SWM and completely ignore the fact that Severus was being hung in the air, with invisible ropes restraining him, soap in his mouth choking him, all while being forcibly stripped naked and a bunch of people laughing while he was being SA...

i know a lot of things are happening in that same scene, but are you really going to focus ONLY on Lily's feelings? Like, i get that SWM is Sev's worst memory because he loses Lily's friendship, but we aren't obligated to see it like that too

I admit it, I just find it ridiculous (and annoying) that people want to make Lily out to be the victim when Severus was literally being abused at that very moment. But somehow he's the one being demanded maturity and a proper attitude while being SA? Lily gets a pass for laughing at him, calling him Snivellus, and mocking the state of his underwear (and just leaving him like that, when she has the authority to stop what's happening as a prefect) and no one says anything? She's the one who deserves to be begged and pleaded for forgiveness...

Just thinking about it makes me nauseous...

Imagine telling someone (your supposed best friend) that your hurt feelings are more important than the fact that their bodily autonomy has been violated

she being hurt bc of the word mudblood is valid, She deciding to end the friendship is valid too. But for her to abandon him in that situation without stopping what was happening? That's not right, and I'm sick of the fandom wanting to pretend it is

[lovelysevvy]

Doechaser dynamic be like:

James, who is obsessed with both Lily and Sev, He isn't afraid to show his love for both of them in public (maybe a little to much)

Severus, who feels affection (love) for both of them but only shows it to Lily in public, while pretending to be annoyed whenever he sees James (all three of them know damn well it's not true; it's just Jeverus dynamic).

Lily, who loves them both deeply but also constantly wonders how she ended up dating two idiots.

[i-crave-the-forbidden]

Little Prince

Inspired by @lovelysevvy's post

[lovelysevvy]

What was the probability that I got two jily edits in a row on TikTok and that in both, the author had to clarify that it was not a jeverus edit lol

The fact that they are two different people and that both of them don't like the ship (jeverus) makes everything more fun.