#2 Madoka fan cause I can't beat Homura @madokamagicaposting - Tumblr Blog

As a Homura Akemi fan I am legally obligated to defend her in the court of law

Warning: Quotes aren't exact because I'm too lazy to look it up, and I'm sorry if I misinterpreted anyone's opinion

Ever since I joined the Madoka Magica fandom I have never really understood most arguments people made about Homura being evil

Most arguments are obviously about Rebellion. I've seen lot of people believe she pulled Madoka out of heaven so she can have her all to herself, control her, that she wants Madoka to have no confidence in herself, to be weak and helpless. When Homura said "All I want is for you to be happy" they believed it was a lie she tells to herself

I think Rebellion itself doesn't have any evidence for this. When Madokami descended to pick up Homura in the ending she said "We'll be together again" which implies if Homura just wanted Madoka to herself she didn't need to pull her from heaven, re-create the universe, and doom herself to be Madoka's enemy in the process

The movie was, in my opinion, implying Homura pulled her from heaven because she said "I wouldn't want to go away where nobody could find me. I'd miss you and my friends, and my family, and everyone in class too" in the flower scene. The fact that Madoka basically said she wouldn't want to become Madokami is very important because when she ascended and had that talk in space with Homura in the show, Homura asked her if this is what she truly wants. This shows she cares about what Madoka wants, so when she confirmed it isn't and her reaction was "Of course, I should have done everything to stop you back then, how could I make such a stupid mistake" she's beating herself up for not realizing being Godoka isn't what she wanted sooner

Throughout the movie we also learn that in magical girl heaven you are able to miss things that aren't there. Sayaka missed Kyoko, Nagisa missed her favorite food, what Madoka said implies she misses her family. This is actually something pointed out in the concept movie:

"I wonder what happiness is It is the bright sunbeams of May It is a warm family It is sunny-side up eggs for breakfast But heaven has none of those things

I wonder what 'happiness' is It is having your name called by someone It is calling someone's name It is someone thinking about you The Goddess had none of those things

A lizard girl could not help but take pity on the Goddess And still thinking that, the lizard girl split the Goddess into 2 equal halves And kidnapped one of those halves Taking her from heaven to the surface of the earth and until that cruelty, that gentle radiance when it was met in the darkness... was too dazzling"

Now, I doubt this translation is the best, but the context surely couldn't have been butchered that badly. The Goddess is clearly Madoka, someone called a God multiple times in the series, and the lizard girl is clearly Homura, the one who split Madoka in half in the movie. This confirms her motivation for this was Madoka's happiness. Even if Madoka doesn't want this Homura believes she does. It is very believable that Madoka would miss her family and friends, and I wouldn't blame Homura for being convinced about this

Someone already pointed this out (I forgot who I'm sorry!!) but if Homura wanted her to be weak why is she a part of the magical girl team in the utopia she created inside her soul gem? Sure you can argue there's no proof it was made to be the ideal world for Homura, but is there even any proof Homura wants Madoka to be weak? Why do people believe this? Genuine Question. Is it because Homura prevented her from becoming a magical girl and keeps her human? That was so she wouldn't die, so third timeline Madoka's wish of not becoming a magical girl is granted, and so she would be happy

I'm also not sure where the yandere allegations came from? Like... Homucifer grabbing onto Madoka while saying "I'll never let you go again Madoka :D" kinda has the vibes I suppose. But again this is because she believes Madoka doesn't want to be a Goddess, so she's forcing her to stay on earth and be happy whether she likes it or not. She is saying that she'll never let her die and sacrifice herself again. Also Homucifer is lying about being evil. The dolls throwing tomatoes at her is a metaphor for how she's lying (you know, because people throw tomatoes at bad actors on stage)

Getting further, we have the "she wants Madoka to have no confidence in herself" argument. Back to the flower scene again, Madoka said she would never be brave enough to go away, and before Homura left she made sure to tell her that she is braver and kinder than she believes

So yeah, all of this is why I don't believe Homucifer is a toxic yandere girlfriend. There is more though. Like how people say she's evil for breaking the law of cycles system. We haven't seen if what she did caused the system to malfunction or cause any really serious problems to anyone or anything. Sure maybe something did break because of it but I've seen people talk about it like there was a confirmation this was the case, but there really isn't

"She stripped Madoka of her agency" is an argument I actually think has some merit. Madoka is no longer aware of her power or of everything that has happened. She can't share her opinion about being put back on earth and no longer being a Goddess. She does have less agency. Homura believed the role of a God made her unhappy, and that ultimately she didn't want this power, but Madoka in the end of the day wasn't asked if she wanted to be put back on earth

I see the situation as Homura giving her the happiness she would never allow herself of though. In the madohomu space talk scene at the show's finale Madokami never answered if this is what she truly wants, but when a Madoka missing (?) her memories hears about the role of Madokami without context that's when she acknowledges she wouldn't want the loneliness that comes from this role. In my opinion Homura believes that Madokami is denying herself happiness and lying about being okay with it, as well as only wishing for the role in the first place because it's something she had to do. That Madokami is lying about what she wants so people aren't worried about her, but when people being worried about her isn't an issue then she tells the truth

And I think you can probably tell why I don't believe Homucifer is selfish too, since again: All she had to do is just give in and be taken away by Madokami to be with her again, but she didn't do that now did she. Many believe Homura is selfish for what she did in the original show too, which I also don't get. How is she selfish for re-living the same traumatic events, over, and over, and over again, to save Madoka? Where Madoka actually voiced that she wants to be saved?

Sure she's doing it because of her love and feelings for Madoka, according to Rebellion and the Wraith Arc manga, but I don't personally consider that selfish. If Homura wants to date Madoka I don't consider that selfish. If she's hoping to eventually get together with Madoka I don't consider that selfish. What I would consider selfish is if she forces Madoka to date her. Selfishness is obviously only caring about yourself and disregarding others. If Homura wants Madoka that isn't selfish in it of itself. What makes it selfish is if she disregarded her well-being or feelings or something, which never happened

This is also another case where I think there is no proof. There's no proof she's only doing this to date Madoka. And again her having feelings for someone doesn't inherently mean she's an incel who was only nice to her so they get together. Homura was doing quite a lot of things that Madoka doesn't like in the show too (being insensitive and threatening people) which is why I personally think she isn't that worried about whether they get to date

Something else I've seen is people believing Homura doesn't care if anyone other than Madoka dies. This is most likely because of the scene where Sayaka rejects the grief seed Homura gave her. Homura literally says "I don't care if you live or die. I don't give a damn" so you might me wondering why I'm going to defend her here. Well, I feel so bad for forgetting who originally pointed this out but, there's a lot of evidence suggesting she's bluffing:

She's not using her gun

She's aiming for the head instead of the soul gem

She didn't stop time

She's actively telling her what she's going to do, which could give Sayaka the incentive to run away

That magic thingy of hers sure is taking a long time to fire

All of this doesn't align with what her successful killing techniques look like. If you look at how she killed Kyubey, she stopped time, fired a bunch of bullets, started time again, and instantly killed him with little effort. Why is what she did with Sayaka so different?

Homura said she's doing this for Madoka's sake, but if Sayaka died then Madoka would obviously be sad and maybe make a wish, which I'm sure Homura is aware of

Before this was pointed out to me I thought that Homura tried to kill her so she wouldn't turn into a witch. I actually did believe this would be something that was evil, to kill her instead of trying harder to cleanse her soul gem. I could understand if trying to cleanse her soul gem never really worked why she would do this, but it would still be evil. But nowadays I'm like, eh there's too much evidence she was bluffing so I don't think she was really trying to kill her. When it comes to what her goals really were.... maybe she threatened her so Sayaka would get scared and use the grief seed to get magic and fight her? And of course Homura was lying when she said she doesn't care if she dies because of the scene where she got her soul gem back

Homura also cried when Sayaka turned into a witch for the first time, in a timeline where Sayaka didn't like her and expressed it pretty openly. In the Homura's Revenge manga (spoilers) you can even see Homura cry after killing Octavia. (end spoilers) When it comes to the others, in the show itself, you can see Homura's eyes watering when Mami dies. Of course there's also how Homura decided to shoot at Mami's leg instead of her head in Rebellion, where Mami acknowledges this must mean she still cares about her. And when Kyoko died she stopped and uttered her name in that one scene

I disagree with how in the manga recap, instead of keeping things up to interpretation, like the show wanted, they made it so Sayaka really did kill and Homura really did want to kill Sayaka, leaving no nuance for other interpretations people had about the scenes. Even though I love scene 0 all those reasons listed above is why (minor spoilers) that scene where Homura tries to kill Sayaka for becoming a magical girl pisses me off so much. Just because she's Coolmura now doesn't mean she automatically went from caring if Sayaka dies or not to not caring at all in that little of a time span. They made her actually stop time to try to kill her too, acknowledging how the technique is different! Also the reason she tries to kill her is just because she's a magical girl now. She didn't even do anything! (end spoilers) Point is.... I don't think every spin-off gets Homura's character right...

The argument that Homura is evil because she'll only reset for Madoka, is one I think opens a very complicated discussion. Homura doesn't want anyone to die but if everyone remained alive and/or not a magical girl instead of Madoka she'd reset, and if everyone instead of Madoka died and/or became a magical girl she wouldn't reset. Theoretically she could save everyone, even if it's a 0.0000000000001% change of that happening because of the circumstances, so is the fact that she isn't trying to as evil as not catching someone before they fall off a cliff when you are capable of saving them?

At the same time the way she values Madoka above others could mean she isn't valuing causing the least amount of pain, making her ethics questionable. Although it was revealed that Homura is approaching 100 time-loops, which I think shows how hard what she set out to do is. If saving Madoka alone is that hard how hard would it be to save everyone? Sure if you ignore her hard circumstances she's just someone who could save everyone but doesn't, but if Homura had complete control over her circumstances she would choose for no-one to die, so is completely ignoring her circumstances really fair?

But it could be argued no matter how much effort it takes to do the right thing you should still try to do it regardless, and refusing to makes you a bad person. But when it comes to Homura's situation you could also argue there's no guarantee she'll ever manage to have a perfect loop where everyone is alive and that there not even a guarantee she'll manage to save Madoka in a loop, so is it really evil that she picked one impossible task over another? Only trying to save one person is objectively easier, and she doesn't know what choices she has to make to save everyone. But also, isn't favoritism wrong? What about my earlier example about how she would reset the timeline if everyone was alive and/or not a magical girl except for Madoka?

But also as previously stated she doesn't want everyone to die, and some would argue this would make her someone who isn't evil. I guess all of this hinges on whether you think inaction is evil or not. Some would argue inaction is neutral, others would argue you have to act sometimes. Some would argue Homura is a bad person because she's not aiming to save the most amount of people, others would argue it matters more that Homura was put in an impossible situation where she can't win and that since she wouldn't be responsible for anyone's death and isn't in control of whether someone dies or not, due to not wanting to kill anyone, she isn't evil and expecting her to save everyone isn't a task we should give to the least well-adjusted 14 year old ever

The last Homura is evil argument I know is another one I'm just gonna say has no proof, and it's "Homura is evil because she only wished to save Madoka". Only calling out Madoka doesn't inherently mean she doesn't care if Mami dies or not. (See my "Homura actually cares about everyone" paragraph) Also when Madoka only told Homura to save her, nobody was giving her any shit for not naming anyone else, so I think there's some favoritism going on here

So, do I think Homura never did anything wrong? When it's funny yes I do. But my true opinion is that she did do wrong sometimes. I think that when she was insensitive about Mami's death, threatened Madoka out of never being in close proximity to a fight again, threatened Sayaka, told Madoka to give up on Sayaka, and antagonized everyone in the end of Rebellion, that was wrong. All of these except for the being antagonistic part where done to keep Madoka out of harm's way and, in my opinion, to force Sayaka to use that grief seed to have the energy to fight her back (or if you don't believe this theory, to prevent her from becoming a witch), but they are still wrong morally

I don't care about characters doing morally wrong things though, as they aren't real people and can't cause real-world harm. The only way for media to cause real-world harm is obviously by normalizing harmful things. Is Madoka Magica normalizing saying insensitive things and threatening people? No. When Homura took off the top of that cup and told Madoka to give up on Sayaka, she got called out for it. When she threatened people she was treated as scary and not in the right. Nobody in the show ever excuses her actions, and she always gets push-back for what she says and does. They do this even for things she didn't do wrong. So I don't care

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