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greenies are so dramatic when it comes to blood & cheese is actually funny. so you want to tell me that you care about a toddler with a 0.5s screen-time more than luke? the truth is you’re so against b&c/daemon because it’s convenient for you. if alicent lost her child in cold blood because of someone from team black, y’all know damn well that you would have cheered for her revenge. jaehaerys’ death isn’t even the most gruesome event in the dance, hell, not even in the entire asoiaf. maelor’s death was 1000x times worse than jaehaerys’ but y’all sleep on him because you don’t fucking care about him. y’all feel ‘sorry’ for jaeherys only because his murder was ordered by daemon and that gives you another reason to hate team black and use b&c as a ‘gotcha’ moment to judge team black stans. we all know it’s your repressed misogyny and targaryenphobia speaking, not your so-called “morals’ (which are pretty much inexistent anyway)
If they did development those characters ( Darcy and Olivia) playing them as madly in love they did such a shit job, and not just the fact that either text completely walks in the opposite direction. But nothing in the subtext in my opinion indicates this.
And house of the dragon is full of subtext to get people speculating and analyzing scenes for months. Rhaenerys and Daemon relationship was so centric and romantize in away i think not even the books does.
So I agree I feel like this is they trying to pandering for the community that will be highly disappointed and backfire on them especially if they are adapting the Queen's Brothel.
Well, the whole thing is that there's isn't nor ever was plans for a Alicent/Rhaenyra love story to be their motivation. It's simply Olivia Cooke making shit up and being really fucking weird - and not in a charming way.
Like, listen, I get that you and D'arcy are tight. But you gotta act like you've been there before. You can't derail an entire show, cause in-fighting in the fandom, cause you've got a weapons grade teen-bopper girl-crush on your new bestie. Not to mention, she needs to keep her creepy headcanons about young girls sexual experimenting to herself ... cause that's just fucking grotesque and strange.
To be honest with you, D'arcy changing her pronouns is probably the pandering they're using to try and win awards. The whole thing with Cooke is just down to her being .. well ... incredibly stupid. But then there are few actors and actresses that I've ever met or came across who were smart or interesting people to begin with. They mistake identity - Skin Color, sexuality, and or gender - as replacements for a personality that they never had to begin with.
Don't get me wrong, there are some actors and actresses that are normal and everyday people. But there isn't a lot of them. They're all narcissistic and smug, that repeat the same talking points. If you ever get in a room with them together it's like having lunch with a bunch of fucking Daleks, man. They all have the same opinions, they all think they're virtuous, and they all think they're better than everyone else. It's an echo chamber of one giant mindless ego.
Straight uniformity down the line, not a interesting or unique thought amongst them.
you are mentally unstable and a pretty shitty person hope you know that
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HOTD had Rhaenyra not only survive a boar attack but actually slaughter the boar and bring him in from the hunt while sparing the white hart. ASOIAF and GOT had Robert Baratheon slaughtered by a boar while the white hart was already dead before his hunting party reached him. The anti-parallel of this is interesting.
i’m not catching this supposed “anti-parallel” at all… robert was quite literally being poisoned by cersei and lancel, he was furious when he learned of the stag being dead but when he learned about a more monstrous boar deeper in the forest he insisted on hunting it, which he did. the setups are completely different.
That’s why it’s called an “anti-parallel”. Also, Robert wasn’t being poisoned. Cersei and Lancel gave him fortified strongwine which he chose to keep drinking. Yes, it was given to him in the hopes that he would drink too much and die while hunting and drinking, but he was in control of his intake, even demanding more.
an anti-parallel has to be deliberately highlighting how the same situation plays out in two opposite ways lmfao. “there was boar involved” does not make it an anti-parallel.
there is a distinct lack of maegor smut here
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The Aemond - Whent theory is hilarious when you know that the Tullys sided with Rhaenyra after what the Greens did to their lands. The Riverlands were literally begging Rhaenyra to bring her dragons to stop him until she finally sent Daemon and Nettles to Maidenpool to search for him. You know Aemond's stans never read ASOIAF or F&B and are show stans.
Btw, why Green stans refuse to accept that Alicent's line went completely extinct ?? House Hightower isn’t even a Lord Paramount house, they are Tyrell's bitches, they are not the even main players anywhere in the series except for the Dance. Help, NOBODY was waving their banners before this damned shit show aired, they didn’t know that house even existed before lmao. Even among the ASOIAF fandom they were just some forgotten house.
it's always contrarianism. truth is, team black is objectively more popular. most locals who are unfamiliar with the books believe rhaenyra will win.
daemon and rhaenyra are the most popular characters.
otto and criston are the least liked characters
(source)
this contrarianism mostly stems from the fact that some portion of this fandom has extreme anti-targ agenda, and that agenda from hatred of daenerys and is projected on the entire house. this hatred is for the following reasons
she stands in the way of a ship (usually the deranged crackship self insert that is jonsa)
she stands in the way of their fav's goals (stannis stans know full well that his chances of survival let alone getting the iron throne are slim and that dany is closer to it than he will ever be, so they hate her)
she has more cool story elements that they feel she doesn't deserve and should be given to their fav (look at the amount of fanfics that give their dragons or storyline to their irrelevant minor long dead characters)
they can't stand that daenerys is the most popular character. they can't stand that the targaryens are the most popular house, that they're the ones paying bills in george's house, that he wrote serveral anthologies about them and not about the starks or any other house and that they are and will be the undisputed heroes of this story. whatever harms house targaren is automatically good, so even the targaryens who cause this harms are automatically good. even if it means they support literal unbashaded misogyny. some of them are smart enough to hide behind the 'both sides bad its about who's your favorite war criminal' but it's literally not. it's about whether you're a misogynist or not.
what disgusts me the most is that they always try to justify their hatred of this fictional fantasy house with serious sounding words like imperialism or colonialism and that, by extension, anyone who likes the characters of house targaryen are supporters of colonialism or imperialism. the worst thing is, most of them are white first worlders whose only understanding of colonialism or imperialism comes from a cursory look at wikipedia page. they often think these terms are interchangeable. they think that war/conquest/annexation = imperialism or colonialism, even though these concepts are extremely nuanced, layered and it takes time to fully grasp them. but you know they don't. if someone held a gun to their head and asked them to define colonialism they'd get shot within seconds.
this ask is coming from someone accusing aemond stans of not reading the book 😭 you do know that the tullys (whose lord supported aegon but the heir did not want to enter the conflict at all) only declared for rhaenyra after she sent addam and seasmoke to intimidate them? “ A dragon in one's courtyard does wonder to resolve one's doubts. “ and Aemond starts torching the riverlords after they declare for his enemies.
do you really just go through my hotd tag to pick up a fight? why are you so obsessed with me? like i said, go back to jerking off to that habsburg jaw war criminal who genocided the riverlands because he felt like it
you’re such a smart & clever high iq genius capable of analyzing the story why so shocked people are reading your extremely informative, insightful & judicious essays on HBO’s House of the Dragon 😔 😔 😔
thanks, i have a degree in english studies which required me to learn how to properly analyze themes ✨ feels so good to be appreciated 🤠
omg not an english studies degree holder truly the leader of our great new generation of future progressives the world is in such good hands 🧎 🧎 🧎
The usurpers die the usurper death in asoiaf: aegon ii poisoned by his own men like a rat, robert murdered by his own wife 🤭
It's so funny how everyone turned against Aegon in the end, like Unwin threw Jaehaera out of the window 😭 meanwhile Team Black stayed together til the end
rhaenyra is literally denied shelter by her lords, the velaryons turn on her & she has to sell her crown to hire a braavosi ship to sneak her into dragonstone, and her own garrison on the seat she’s ruled for 15 years turn on her.... the only people who turn against aegon are corlys & larys because they want to preserve themselves. be real.
aegon is poisoned by her own men, jaehaera is sent flying by a green supporter unwin peake, alicent is imprisoned and nobody bothers to release her until she dies, not even her sons. most of the realm is for rhaenya. daemon kills vhagar for rhaenyra and dies in the process despite them turning against each other. cregan stark continues fighting for rhaenyra long after she’s dead, making sure to put her son on the throne. rhaenyra’s line contuines through aegon and jon and daenerys are her direct descendants. meanwhile all of aegon’s children die, all of alicent’s children die too and the green line dies out - this has thematic significance, but i don’t expect you to know what that is and how can it serve the story.
learn the book instead of cherrypicking whatever you can find on the wiki of ice and fire. ✌
it always sends how the people talking about “tHeMaTiC sIgNiFiCaNcE” and ‘rEaD tHe bOoK” are the ones who completely ignore all elements of the narrative that they simply don’t like. i could not care less what you tell yourself to feel vindicated for liking x fictional character over y, but rhaenyra’s entire role in the war is how she is beset by betrayal and treachery on every front. she will be the first person to tell you that. the whole reason she loses king’s landing is because of her paranoia.
what are you trying to prove by talking about things that happen after rhaenyra is dead? jaehaera & alicent’s ends come after a peace has been made, there are no more blacks or greens, everyone is out for themselves as they have always been.
more of this “THE LINE GOES EXTINCT REEE” like anybody gives a fuck lmfao. I guess aegon iv is simply the best & most deserving member of this family. the fact that baelor breakspear’s line dies in the most unimpressive way possible while the likes of jaehaerys & shaera get to be the grandparents of the series’ protagonists tells me all i need to know about the tHeMaTiC sIgNiFiCaNcE of someone outbreeding the competition.
no wonder you don’t care about thematic significance considering it contradicts what you believe. it matters a great deal that everyone in team green dies and all of them turn against each other at some point. that rhaenyra’s line survives and alicent doesn’t directly shows whom the author favors AND who ultimately won.
anyway you’re a weirdo who saw my post reposted on twitter and took time to search for me AND stalk my blog to find every post you disagree with and comment on it. you’re obsessed. get lost
you’re a self proclaimed brilliant analyzer of this 200 page story how can you deprive us mere mortals of your enlightened takes so cruel the world really does hate us women 😔
House of The Dragon - who is the true ‘victim of patriarchy’?
As “House of The Dragon” progresses, we see a lot of discourse around patriarchy and how it affects women in GRRM’s world. Almost all of those discussions focus on Alicent Hightower and are used as a way to excuse/justify/defend her actions.
To some degree, it’s true that Alicent is a victim of patriarchy, as is every single woman in that world. Like all highborn women, Alicent is married off at an early age to a man much older and powerful than herself, like all highborn women she is forced to become a baby factory for him. Her position is hardly unique. Yet, the focus on her victimhood is much greater than that of other characters, even though similar things happen to other women. Aemma Arryn is made to go through many excruciating pregnancies in order to produce a male heir, eventually culminating in her brutal demise. Laena Velaryon commits suicide in order to avoid Aemma’s fate. Rhaenyra, too, is forced to marry someone against her will and bear children despite the trauma she has from losing her mother in that very way. All of those women are victims of patriarchy.
The difference is that only one of them uses patriarchy to further her own goals. Due to personal slights, Alicent believes Rhaenyra is not worthy of the Iron Throne and uses patriarchal standards to start a civil war and make her own son the king. Those heinous actions are defended or excused - she did this because that’s how patriarchy wired her brain! She doesn’t know anything else! She’s a victim! Did you forget how she was forced to be a child bride! Not her fault! It’s the patriarchy!
The same grace is never extended to Rhaenyra. Rhaenyra is always the devil incarnate in the eyes of the same people who defend Alicent as ‘victim of patriarchy’. Rhaenyra is unworthy of the throne because she had sex with Criston and lied about it! Rhaenyra is unworthy of the throne because her children are bastards with Harwin Strong! But when you look at it, Rhaenyra’s actions are only wrong if we accept the patriarchal standard of that very world as true and given. There’s nothing morally wrong with having sex with someone while not being married to them. There’s nothing morally wrong with having children with someone you desire after you were forced to marry a gay man. On the other side, there is something inherently wrong in using patriarchy as a way to ruin someone’s life, strip someone of the throne based on their gender and indirectly cause the deaths of everyone that person held close to them. There is something wrong in setting a precedent that made it so that no woman will ever able to inherit the throne. Rhaenyra’s actions are at best misguided, Alicent’s actions are outright malicious from the very beginning.
Yet, again, only Alicent is excused as a ‘victim of patriarchy’. Is Rhaenyra not one, maybe to a greater extent than Alicent? After all, like Alicent, she is forced to marry someone against her will. After all, like Alicent, she is forced to bear heirs. And Rhaenyra has to fight a war (started by Alicent no less) because of her gender. Rhaenyra is denied a position of power and authority because of her gender. Rhaenyra loses everyone close to her because of her gender. Yet nobody calls Rhaenyra a victim of patriarchy, and the same people who insist on Alicent’s victimhood are often outright malicious and hateful towards Rhaenyra. Why is that?
Because Alicent is a perfect victim who represents the status quo. She’s a perfect young lady from the second she appears on screen. She never once challenges the world around her, never questions her role in it, just passively accepts everything. She plays within the system instead of challenging it. Her victimhood is confirmed by her passiveness and acceptance. It is expected of women to be passive, to accept their role within society and never question it, and Alicent does exactly that.
Rhaenyra is an imperfect victim because she openly rebels against society, challenges the world around her and does things that are unthinkable of a ‘proper lady’. She commits the crime of having sex for pleasure and not out of duty. She decides to fight for her birthright instead of graciously giving it to her half-brother, as I no doubt think Alicent would do had she was in Rhaenyra’s position. That by itself casts her as a villain in many people’s eyes. To be an active woman who challenges the world around her is a slight even among people who larp as progressives.
Alicent, as a proper gender conforming traditional woman (described by showrunners as being inspired by ‘women for Trump’), gets to be a victim, even though she actively uses patriarchy for her own gains and destroys people’s lives because of it. Rhaenyra, a gender nonconforming rebel, does not get this treatment, even though rebelling against patriarchy should be applauded and not condemned. And it really does not matter that poor Alicent was a child bride forced to be a baby factory. So was every woman in that world, and yet only Alicent decided to use patriarchy against her former friend - for many reasons, one of which was her implied jealousy that Rhaenyra was not afraid to briefly sneak out of societal bondage of patriarchy.
Why is Alicent a victim but not Rhaenyra? Why is Alicent’s victimhood a justification of her actions, but Rhaenyra is an evil Jezebel for the crime of having sex for pleasure? Why do you keep defending someone who knowingly used the patriarchy for her own advantage and ruined someone’s life?
rhaenyra “openly rebels against society”- i’ve read enough. rhaenyra IS the status quo. she has lived a life devoid of obstacle, struggle, or difficulty.
did you read anything that i wrote or are you a part of the ‘i cant read with comprehension’ brigade consisting of 90% of tumblr? go back to jerking off to that one eyed incel and leave people who are capable of analyzing the story without the help of tumblr metas written by wiki warriors who thing colonialism is when you’re mean
>talks about reading comprehension
>uses incel whenever anyone says something they don’t like
“one-eyed incel” “tumblr metas written by wiki warriors who thing colonialism“ this cannot be a real person 💀
go back to 4chan, weirdo
“everyone who disagrees with me is a terminally online incel like me”
The Aemond - Whent theory is hilarious when you know that the Tullys sided with Rhaenyra after what the Greens did to their lands. The Riverlands were literally begging Rhaenyra to bring her dragons to stop him until she finally sent Daemon and Nettles to Maidenpool to search for him. You know Aemond's stans never read ASOIAF or F&B and are show stans.
Btw, why Green stans refuse to accept that Alicent's line went completely extinct ?? House Hightower isn’t even a Lord Paramount house, they are Tyrell's bitches, they are not the even main players anywhere in the series except for the Dance. Help, NOBODY was waving their banners before this damned shit show aired, they didn’t know that house even existed before lmao. Even among the ASOIAF fandom they were just some forgotten house.
it's always contrarianism. truth is, team black is objectively more popular. most locals who are unfamiliar with the books believe rhaenyra will win.
daemon and rhaenyra are the most popular characters.
otto and criston are the least liked characters
(source)
this contrarianism mostly stems from the fact that some portion of this fandom has extreme anti-targ agenda, and that agenda from hatred of daenerys and is projected on the entire house. this hatred is for the following reasons
she stands in the way of a ship (usually the deranged crackship self insert that is jonsa)
she stands in the way of their fav's goals (stannis stans know full well that his chances of survival let alone getting the iron throne are slim and that dany is closer to it than he will ever be, so they hate her)
she has more cool story elements that they feel she doesn't deserve and should be given to their fav (look at the amount of fanfics that give their dragons or storyline to their irrelevant minor long dead characters)
they can't stand that daenerys is the most popular character. they can't stand that the targaryens are the most popular house, that they're the ones paying bills in george's house, that he wrote serveral anthologies about them and not about the starks or any other house and that they are and will be the undisputed heroes of this story. whatever harms house targaren is automatically good, so even the targaryens who cause this harms are automatically good. even if it means they support literal unbashaded misogyny. some of them are smart enough to hide behind the 'both sides bad its about who's your favorite war criminal' but it's literally not. it's about whether you're a misogynist or not.
what disgusts me the most is that they always try to justify their hatred of this fictional fantasy house with serious sounding words like imperialism or colonialism and that, by extension, anyone who likes the characters of house targaryen are supporters of colonialism or imperialism. the worst thing is, most of them are white first worlders whose only understanding of colonialism or imperialism comes from a cursory look at wikipedia page. they often think these terms are interchangeable. they think that war/conquest/annexation = imperialism or colonialism, even though these concepts are extremely nuanced, layered and it takes time to fully grasp them. but you know they don't. if someone held a gun to their head and asked them to define colonialism they'd get shot within seconds.
this ask is coming from someone accusing aemond stans of not reading the book 😭 you do know that the tullys (whose lord supported aegon but the heir did not want to enter the conflict at all) only declared for rhaenyra after she sent addam and seasmoke to intimidate them? “ A dragon in one's courtyard does wonder to resolve one's doubts. “ and Aemond starts torching the riverlords after they declare for his enemies.
do you really just go through my hotd tag to pick up a fight? why are you so obsessed with me? like i said, go back to jerking off to that habsburg jaw war criminal who genocided the riverlands because he felt like it
you’re such a smart & clever high iq genius capable of analyzing the story why so shocked people are reading your extremely informative, insightful & judicious essays on HBO’s House of the Dragon 😔 😔 😔
House of The Dragon - who is the true ‘victim of patriarchy’?
As “House of The Dragon” progresses, we see a lot of discourse around patriarchy and how it affects women in GRRM’s world. Almost all of those discussions focus on Alicent Hightower and are used as a way to excuse/justify/defend her actions.
To some degree, it’s true that Alicent is a victim of patriarchy, as is every single woman in that world. Like all highborn women, Alicent is married off at an early age to a man much older and powerful than herself, like all highborn women she is forced to become a baby factory for him. Her position is hardly unique. Yet, the focus on her victimhood is much greater than that of other characters, even though similar things happen to other women. Aemma Arryn is made to go through many excruciating pregnancies in order to produce a male heir, eventually culminating in her brutal demise. Laena Velaryon commits suicide in order to avoid Aemma’s fate. Rhaenyra, too, is forced to marry someone against her will and bear children despite the trauma she has from losing her mother in that very way. All of those women are victims of patriarchy.
The difference is that only one of them uses patriarchy to further her own goals. Due to personal slights, Alicent believes Rhaenyra is not worthy of the Iron Throne and uses patriarchal standards to start a civil war and make her own son the king. Those heinous actions are defended or excused - she did this because that’s how patriarchy wired her brain! She doesn’t know anything else! She’s a victim! Did you forget how she was forced to be a child bride! Not her fault! It’s the patriarchy!
The same grace is never extended to Rhaenyra. Rhaenyra is always the devil incarnate in the eyes of the same people who defend Alicent as ‘victim of patriarchy’. Rhaenyra is unworthy of the throne because she had sex with Criston and lied about it! Rhaenyra is unworthy of the throne because her children are bastards with Harwin Strong! But when you look at it, Rhaenyra’s actions are only wrong if we accept the patriarchal standard of that very world as true and given. There’s nothing morally wrong with having sex with someone while not being married to them. There’s nothing morally wrong with having children with someone you desire after you were forced to marry a gay man. On the other side, there is something inherently wrong in using patriarchy as a way to ruin someone’s life, strip someone of the throne based on their gender and indirectly cause the deaths of everyone that person held close to them. There is something wrong in setting a precedent that made it so that no woman will ever able to inherit the throne. Rhaenyra’s actions are at best misguided, Alicent’s actions are outright malicious from the very beginning.
Yet, again, only Alicent is excused as a ‘victim of patriarchy’. Is Rhaenyra not one, maybe to a greater extent than Alicent? After all, like Alicent, she is forced to marry someone against her will. After all, like Alicent, she is forced to bear heirs. And Rhaenyra has to fight a war (started by Alicent no less) because of her gender. Rhaenyra is denied a position of power and authority because of her gender. Rhaenyra loses everyone close to her because of her gender. Yet nobody calls Rhaenyra a victim of patriarchy, and the same people who insist on Alicent’s victimhood are often outright malicious and hateful towards Rhaenyra. Why is that?
Because Alicent is a perfect victim who represents the status quo. She’s a perfect young lady from the second she appears on screen. She never once challenges the world around her, never questions her role in it, just passively accepts everything. She plays within the system instead of challenging it. Her victimhood is confirmed by her passiveness and acceptance. It is expected of women to be passive, to accept their role within society and never question it, and Alicent does exactly that.
Rhaenyra is an imperfect victim because she openly rebels against society, challenges the world around her and does things that are unthinkable of a ‘proper lady’. She commits the crime of having sex for pleasure and not out of duty. She decides to fight for her birthright instead of graciously giving it to her half-brother, as I no doubt think Alicent would do had she was in Rhaenyra’s position. That by itself casts her as a villain in many people’s eyes. To be an active woman who challenges the world around her is a slight even among people who larp as progressives.
Alicent, as a proper gender conforming traditional woman (described by showrunners as being inspired by ‘women for Trump’), gets to be a victim, even though she actively uses patriarchy for her own gains and destroys people’s lives because of it. Rhaenyra, a gender nonconforming rebel, does not get this treatment, even though rebelling against patriarchy should be applauded and not condemned. And it really does not matter that poor Alicent was a child bride forced to be a baby factory. So was every woman in that world, and yet only Alicent decided to use patriarchy against her former friend - for many reasons, one of which was her implied jealousy that Rhaenyra was not afraid to briefly sneak out of societal bondage of patriarchy.
Why is Alicent a victim but not Rhaenyra? Why is Alicent’s victimhood a justification of her actions, but Rhaenyra is an evil Jezebel for the crime of having sex for pleasure? Why do you keep defending someone who knowingly used the patriarchy for her own advantage and ruined someone’s life?
rhaenyra “openly rebels against society”- i’ve read enough. rhaenyra IS the status quo. she has lived a life devoid of obstacle, struggle, or difficulty.
did you read anything that i wrote or are you a part of the ‘i cant read with comprehension’ brigade consisting of 90% of tumblr? go back to jerking off to that one eyed incel and leave people who are capable of analyzing the story without the help of tumblr metas written by wiki warriors who thing colonialism is when you’re mean
>talks about reading comprehension
>uses incel whenever anyone says something they don’t like
"one-eyed incel” “tumblr metas written by wiki warriors who thing colonialism“ this cannot be a real person 💀
The usurpers die the usurper death in asoiaf: aegon ii poisoned by his own men like a rat, robert murdered by his own wife 🤭
It's so funny how everyone turned against Aegon in the end, like Unwin threw Jaehaera out of the window 😭 meanwhile Team Black stayed together til the end
rhaenyra is literally denied shelter by her lords, the velaryons turn on her & she has to sell her crown to hire a braavosi ship to sneak her into dragonstone, and her own garrison on the seat she’s ruled for 15 years turn on her.... the only people who turn against aegon are corlys & larys because they want to preserve themselves. be real.
aegon is poisoned by her own men, jaehaera is sent flying by a green supporter unwin peake, alicent is imprisoned and nobody bothers to release her until she dies, not even her sons. most of the realm is for rhaenya. daemon kills vhagar for rhaenyra and dies in the process despite them turning against each other. cregan stark continues fighting for rhaenyra long after she’s dead, making sure to put her son on the throne. rhaenyra’s line contuines through aegon and jon and daenerys are her direct descendants. meanwhile all of aegon’s children die, all of alicent’s children die too and the green line dies out - this has thematic significance, but i don’t expect you to know what that is and how can it serve the story.
learn the book instead of cherrypicking whatever you can find on the wiki of ice and fire. ✌
it always sends how the people talking about “tHeMaTiC sIgNiFiCaNcE” and ‘rEaD tHe bOoK” are the ones who completely ignore all elements of the narrative that they simply don’t like. i could not care less what you tell yourself to feel vindicated for liking x fictional character over y, but rhaenyra’s entire role in the war is how she is beset by betrayal and treachery on every front. she will be the first person to tell you that. the whole reason she loses king’s landing is because of her paranoia.
what are you trying to prove by talking about things that happen after rhaenyra is dead? jaehaera & alicent’s ends come after a peace has been made, there are no more blacks or greens, everyone is out for themselves as they have always been.
more of this “THE LINE GOES EXTINCT REEE” like anybody gives a fuck lmfao. I guess aegon iv is simply the best & most deserving member of this family. the fact that baelor breakspear’s line dies in the most unimpressive way possible while the likes of jaehaerys & shaera get to be the grandparents of the series’ protagonists tells me all i need to know about the tHeMaTiC sIgNiFiCaNcE of someone outbreeding the competition.
The Aemond - Whent theory is hilarious when you know that the Tullys sided with Rhaenyra after what the Greens did to their lands. The Riverlands were literally begging Rhaenyra to bring her dragons to stop him until she finally sent Daemon and Nettles to Maidenpool to search for him. You know Aemond's stans never read ASOIAF or F&B and are show stans.
Btw, why Green stans refuse to accept that Alicent's line went completely extinct ?? House Hightower isn’t even a Lord Paramount house, they are Tyrell's bitches, they are not the even main players anywhere in the series except for the Dance. Help, NOBODY was waving their banners before this damned shit show aired, they didn’t know that house even existed before lmao. Even among the ASOIAF fandom they were just some forgotten house.
it's always contrarianism. truth is, team black is objectively more popular. most locals who are unfamiliar with the books believe rhaenyra will win.
daemon and rhaenyra are the most popular characters.
otto and criston are the least liked characters
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this contrarianism mostly stems from the fact that some portion of this fandom has extreme anti-targ agenda, and that agenda from hatred of daenerys and is projected on the entire house. this hatred is for the following reasons
she stands in the way of a ship (usually the deranged crackship self insert that is jonsa)
she stands in the way of their fav's goals (stannis stans know full well that his chances of survival let alone getting the iron throne are slim and that dany is closer to it than he will ever be, so they hate her)
she has more cool story elements that they feel she doesn't deserve and should be given to their fav (look at the amount of fanfics that give their dragons or storyline to their irrelevant minor long dead characters)
they can't stand that daenerys is the most popular character. they can't stand that the targaryens are the most popular house, that they're the ones paying bills in george's house, that he wrote serveral anthologies about them and not about the starks or any other house and that they are and will be the undisputed heroes of this story. whatever harms house targaren is automatically good, so even the targaryens who cause this harms are automatically good. even if it means they support literal unbashaded misogyny. some of them are smart enough to hide behind the 'both sides bad its about who's your favorite war criminal' but it's literally not. it's about whether you're a misogynist or not.
what disgusts me the most is that they always try to justify their hatred of this fictional fantasy house with serious sounding words like imperialism or colonialism and that, by extension, anyone who likes the characters of house targaryen are supporters of colonialism or imperialism. the worst thing is, most of them are white first worlders whose only understanding of colonialism or imperialism comes from a cursory look at wikipedia page. they often think these terms are interchangeable. they think that war/conquest/annexation = imperialism or colonialism, even though these concepts are extremely nuanced, layered and it takes time to fully grasp them. but you know they don't. if someone held a gun to their head and asked them to define colonialism they'd get shot within seconds.
this ask is coming from someone accusing aemond stans of not reading the book 😭 you do know that the tullys (whose lord supported aegon but the heir did not want to enter the conflict at all) only declared for rhaenyra after she sent addam and seasmoke to intimidate them? “ A dragon in one's courtyard does wonder to resolve one's doubts. “ and Aemond starts torching the riverlords after they declare for his enemies.