Wowie back to this big ol deal again, one last time haha..
I made a while back a post saying j was neutral of the pressure matter, but as of more recent evidence and just me thinking in general, I realize any opinion I say will lead to someone wanting to harass me. But after seeing others posts in the matter they have given me the strength to make me own.
You may be asking, why?, well it’s simple:
1. Ren was making a second document, and was gonna post it no matter what. After reading Zeals document (with better evidence, and I watched a video just to make sure I understood it since the person broke it down in a sense) she just canceled it. Which is odd no matter what, but you could easily say ‘maybe there’s no point in her saying he’s wrong since her doc proves that’ maybe, it’s possible but she had said it’d come out no matter what, so still odd
2. There was an interview done with cyborg? I believe was the guys name. Now I saw a video that was shorter kinda summarizing the interview as it’s a long interview. From what I know he knew events that were going on and were there for some. He was even asking Ren if there was consent and she was saying yes. And actively was telling him about the sex and was being rude and nasty shaming Zeals sex. Cyborg said they were both virgins, so of course sex isn’t gonna be perfect jeez ren.. if I’m right Cyborg did say that Ren really wasn’t reciprocating feelings with Zeal (may have miss interpreted it, I was kinda confused) but if she didn’t reciprocate the feelings she’s more in the wrong. How can you lead someone on while disrespecting their boundary’s, shaming their sex to a friend, and actively sexting that person and actively looking to have more sex?? Come on ren
3. Ren has wiped herself off the face of the internet, deleting her discord, her Twitter and her YouTube (not sure about discord server, they said it went quiet but idk if that meant deleted? Or what) After Zeals mom was going to push for legal action and this new interview came out, if her points are as real as she makes them to be, then why try and erase yourself?
Fuck ren. Really fuck her
How dare she ruin a man’s life how dare she do that just because he got uncomfortable with her destroying his boundary’s
I feel bad for that day she was trying to commit suicide within the documents I do.
But the pressure community and others sicken me how they treated Zeals attempt. That was foul and I’ve heard there was a song made just to mock his death using his pleads as the lyrics. If you support ren you actively support people who go to a man who’s going to kill himself crying and pleading for forgiveness and for someone to believe him and people telling him to kill himself faster, telling him he should’ve done it a long time ago- that’s SICK.
Now RENs proven to be bad people aren’t gonna go and make fun of her suicide attempt.
People make me sick, putting down another human being like that.
My final saying, FUCK REN. That was fucked yo for her to do! So I’m on Zeals side, and I won’t post about this again, I’m not gonna be actively hating on her but I don’t support her bullshit lies and I don’t have the energy to be angry at someone so foul and vile.
This doesn’t excuse anything else zeal has done before. It doesn’t. I’m not saying he’s 100% forgiven and innocent, no! But what RENs doing is making her look guilty as hell.
Listen if your a ren supporter and have genuine evidence telling me exactly how her deleting her identity off everywhere isn’t suspicious then tell me, I would like to know! (I’m not being sarcastic here I’m being genuine ^^))
I’m not excusing anything else Zeal has done wrong to be clear, idk what else he’s done wrong but I’m just saying fuck ren because what she’s doing is really making obvious that she was lying..
No matter what, support the victims! Whether it be for this or other pressure drama in the past.
From my evidence I just personally don’t support what ren did, i support her for making the document but it just being a lie? No, that’s not ok.
I support Zeal on this matter I don’t know on other matters tho, and no, not everyone is completely innocent, not saying that either. Just for this situation please try and see who’s right, as my evidence that I’ve gathered just makes ren look like she’s lying about the SA, maybe she sees it as that, but you can’t take away consent you can’t. If ren feels like it was SA even with consent I don’t know what to say besides I suppose support her? But try and get that consent can’t be taken away. I’m sorry it can’t.
