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THERE’S SOMETHING INSIDE YOUR HEAD 💀❗❗
behind the scenes
Mr. Ring-A-Ding's concept art, including the finished character sheet.
Sorry for sub-par quality, got these by using Pocketmags' Article Mode feature.
From Doctor Who Magazine issue #616.
Concept art for his CGI form, plus the cartoon designs for the Fifteenth Doctor and Belinda.
Oh we also got more concept stuff from Ian Spendloff’s Instagram
Looking at some of the notes on these ref sheets, I feel like it's a good time to tell all the British fans that if you're an American listening to Mr. Ring-A-Ding talk he sounds like someone trying and failing to assimilate into the classic Looney Tunes. There's a certain 1940s and 1950s twang that can be replicated if you know what you're doing or naturally have a certain kind of voice (John Mulaney does it naturally, for example, and Maurice LaMarche is very good at adding it to his voices), but it's missing here. It's not even a case of "he's modeled off the modern voices." There's a brashness to his voice that definitely harkens back to Mel Blanc but that specific element that's missing.
I don't know how to put it more technically than that, all I can say is when you grow up American you just naturally learn those little subtleties others might not hear (in the same way I'd imagine you all can parse way more British accents than I can, because you grew up learning them natively and I didn't), and something about his voice versus his design and clear homages/references is wrong, and if this was any other show I'd assume it was a British VA who wasn't familiar with historical accents, but I feel like that's probably not the wisest assumption to make with Doctor "the curtains are never just blue" Who.
It's because there's two cartoon styles going on here. (I think)
Mr. Ring is clearly the 1940s-50s cartoon style.
However, Bells and the Doctor feel closer to the 60s-70s style of cartoon which Could actually be a call back to their joke earlier in the show about Scooby-doo. (Doctor being Velma and Bels being 'Fred' so to speak)
Because it's clearly more of a 60s-70s styles to me.
Ring feels like it's closer to like...mid 55-early 60s? I can see the inspiration is similar to that era. (Closer to like, Little Lulu than it is to Felix the Cat or even Popeye/Olive Oyl's time frame. Even though there is a homage To Popeye but it's like Which Era Of Popeye though because that cartoon ran from the 40s to literally like the 90s. And now since there is another Popeye movie too.)
I wouldn't say there's a wrongness to it, but like...It tickles the Brain in an odd fashion.
It's like two artstyles are together in one shot almost? I think Sunshine is actually correct for what they were going for to a degree.
It could also be that.. well.. Mr. Ring is Designed like a villain *from* that cartoon era. Maybe that's why it feels odd? Most characters designed like that in the 50s era are usually Villains right off the bat. He doesn't look like the typical hero of the story.
Many of the heroes in those kinds of stories are always like a Sad looking Dude trying to do the Best he Can for his gal. Or like they're short or something. Like there's a rhyme and reason for a lot of those character designs from then.
(The ones I generally remember are: Guys that have a comedic look to them where they're kinda dumb, or they're happy skippy but lack actual confidence in talking to a girl so they 'sweat' first before they go up trying to attempt to be 'cool'. )
And Mr. Ring, who's character is meant to be (within the setting of the Show and in the Actual Cartoon) the 'hero' in his film.. he's designed like a villain straight off the bat.
We're not given a moment to think he's Not a Bad Guy. At least, that's how I read it. If you watch any cartoons from that era, you noticed a pattern between at least three styles of Villain characters. (aside from the obvious) but one of them is the Lanky tall look. The way he's colored. The way his hair is half styled like that and the antennas.
It could also be he's styled after a Bug Type, since Sunshine is a Puppy Type but like...It gives me pause. Lol.
But I like mix mediums. So I enjoyed the episode because the theme is neat, but also Mix Mediums My Beloved.
However, it's just one of those Quirks.
A person not familiar with that era's cartoons would also just..copy. Cup Man and Mug Man as a touchstone too.
-not saying that's what they did or anything, but like it's a recent memory deal.-
also I'm guess-estimating the time frames off the top of my head.
They're going for the 50s look. Around that time frame there were still Other Animation Companies and they all had different styles then. Some copy each other.
This is also less than like.. ten years from Bewitched/Sabrina the Teenage Witch and I love Genie. <- (the latter is probably a lot younger than the other two. I mention them because the artstyle of the Doctor and Bel is similar to That. Especially the Bobble head version of the Doctor resembles the Cartoon Intro of Darrin from the show. (this is ALSO in multiple ads but like I'm just using Big Names for comparisons)
See, the mix of art styles isn't what's getting me. I grew up with those Cartoon Network interstitials where you had everyone from Johnny Bravo to Bugs Bunny crammed into one frame with Hong Kong Phooey and Tom from Toonami. That actually feels so natural to me I almost didn't notice it.
What I'm talking about is...well, let's do it like this.
(Boy, they sure do some stuff with Bugs these days.)
Listen to the difference between the two VAs. They're not trying to do an exact voice match to Mel Blanc because the character's been updated for a modern audience (something you can also see in slight changes to the design and how the characters move), so the current VA isn't replicating that twang.
Now listen to Ring-a-Ding again. He looks like he belongs to that 1940s era, but he doesn't sound like it. The twang is missing. And unlike Bugs, who has that slight design update that makes it feel less incongruous, Ring-A-Ding looks pure 40s and sounds pure 2010s. It's off.
Y'all over here writing a dissertation, meanwhile I'm just sitting here like "this dude reminds me of Spinel from SU"
I mean, I also had that thought, but Spinel herself is based on that earlier style, so.
He reminds me of the earlier Max Fleischer cartoons like Betty Boop, which you can see with Sunshine Sally there. What he's missing, which Sally had, is the Brooklyn (Bugs)/Queens (Betty) accent.
The head shape is a dead ringer.
Also in Paul Kirkley's interview with the animation studio Framestone, which is where I got the screenshots, he fully admits it!
Mr. Ring-A-Ding's concept art, including the finished character sheet.
Sorry for sub-par quality, got these by using Pocketmags' Article Mode feature.
From Doctor Who Magazine issue #616.
Concept art for his CGI form, plus the cartoon designs for the Fifteenth Doctor and Belinda.
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strades there too ig
I made a meme everyone clap 👏
billford animatic i made to the song 'confrontation'! ^^
KANRIX PORFAVOR CLAY CON CLAY CHIKITO Y TE DOY MI ALMA 🙏🙏🙏
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theres apeerantly alot of people who havent seen this but its SO worth watching. PLEASE GO WATCH IT !!!
first one wasnt in the video but yeah.
DINO ORIGINAL: horse with fangs
he so cooked with this one
along with this extra Frankenstein he did from Frankenhole
featuring an original picture
these two were from a deleted scene (not sure about the 2nd or 3rd image) in turn the other cheek, i tried snooping around for extra parts of the storyboard but theres nothing else shown other than some mysterious page flipping
this one fr has just me dying 😭
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