Richard E Grant and Owen Wilson behind the scenes of Marvel Studios’ Loki (2021)
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Richard E Grant and Owen Wilson behind the scenes of Marvel Studios’ Loki (2021)
I love them, your honor
He stamps his foot i totally missed that!
Really bad quality sorry!
Some alligator variants of our beloveds
Bonus:
Cut Scenes From Thor 1 Reveal Loki is the Victim, Not the Villain
I find it really interesting that the first Thor film ended up cutting out a lot of the context for why Loki acted the way he did. And yet the film ended up adding context to the one part in the script that lacked it. After the Bifrost has been destroyed and Thor and Loki have been flung over the edge, Odin keeps them from falling. In the script, no words are spoken between Loki and Odin, and the stage direction just leaves it up to the actors to convey Loki’s want of approval and then Odin’s lack of it. The film adds the “I could have done it, Father! For you!” “No, Loki,” dialogue to fully explain why Loki lets go. After an entire film of cutting out the explanations and reasonings for why Loki acts the way he does, suddenly they add this in. Why this moment?
Let’s go back to the beginning to see if we can shed some light on why this might be.
They cut out a scene where Thor is getting ready to be coronated and Loki comes to see him. Thor makes a joke at his expense (“Some do battle, others just do tricks”), Loki’s feelings are hurt so he fills a goblet with eels, then Loki compliments Thor, and Thor says, “You’re incapable of sincerity.” Loki says, with all the sincerity in the world, “You’re my brother and my friend. Sometimes I’m envious, but never doubt that I love you.” I love this scene; in this moment, Loki is nowhere near the villain he becomes—he’s just Thor’s overlooked little brother. I can understand why they would ultimately cut this scene, as the audience would have sympathized with Loki right out of the gate, and they wanted to set him up as the villain in both this film and in The Avengers and beyond. But in cutting this scene, they lost a big moment of character development for both Loki and Thor. Thor comes off here as an asshole, making fun of his brother and accusing him of insincerity when Loki is there to be supportive, and Loki comes off as a sensitive guy constantly put down by his older brother. They actually filmed this scene and then cut it, but some scenes never even made it that far.
They also cut out the scene where Heimdall and Thor both cut Loki off and talk over him when they’re headed off to Jotunheim. Volstagg throws a snarky comment his way and then Loki replies with a comment about Volstagg’s weight. What only made it into the movie was Volstagg’s comment about Loki’s silver tongue turning to lead, with no context as to why that was said or what was said after. Bullying at its finest, which does gain some sympathy for Loki, but for a lot of viewers, that sympathy disappears as soon as it’s clear that Loki is responsible for letting the Frost Giants into Asgard (and the various other things he does in this film).
Another scene that was cut was when Loki goes back to Jotunheim after Thor has been banished and Odin has fallen into Odinsleep. He approaches Laufey and Laufey grabs his throat. Loki turns blue, much to the astonishment of the Frost Giants present, and Loki says, “Hello, Father.” It seems like he’s searching for at least the care and approval of his biological father, but Laufey calls him his “bastard son,” says Odin should have killed him, and calls him weak. Loki jumps to defend himself, saying he’s not weak and that “perhaps you should not have so carelessly abandoned me.” I feel like this is the moment Loki decides to betray Laufey. If Laufey had been pleased to see him and had taken him into the fold as his son, I feel like there would have been the possibility that Loki would have formed a true allegiance with the Frost Giants and let Laufey kill Odin. But what happened was that Loki sought out his real father for some sort of approval (that’s what he was seeking the entire film), was rejected, and so then decided to put on a front of allying with the Frost Giants with betrayal being the ultimate goal. All Loki wants is a father that approves of him.
Another thing that wasn’t necessarily cut out was in the scene where Loki sends the Destroyer to kill Thor. In the script, Loki has transformed into a raven and watches Thor’s “Brother, for whatever I have done to wrong you” speech. At least, Loki being the raven is heavily implied since the script says the raven is “watching the scene.” And since we know Loki is a shapeshifter, it’s a good bet that Loki is, indeed, that raven. Additionally, without the first scene of Loki complimenting Thor and Thor putting him down for it, Thor speech here seems justified, since we haven’t seen Thor really do anything mean to Loki; Thor is the victim, and we are meant to see it that way. But if that first scene had been in the movie… well, Thor becomes less of the victim and more of the bully who is getting his comeuppance. Had the scene before the coronation been included, it would have been fairly obvious exactly what Thor had done to wrong Loki in some way, because if Loki’s entire childhood was like that (and I suspect it most definitely was), then Loki has every right to be angry and upset and hurt (finding out he was a Frost Giant just accelerated his feelings of anger and betrayal tenfold and really kickstarted his whole villain arc). Whether or not he should be trying to obliterate Thor completely is a different matter entirely.
Now we come back to the end. Loki says, “I never wanted the throne. I only wanted to be your equal. Now fight me!” He’s desperate to fight Thor, to show him that he may do tricks, but can also do battle—Thor needles him with this line at the beginning of the script and it feels like this is something Thor has said before, probably while they were growing up. That would absolutely make sense considering that when Thor and Loki fight, the script says: “The two battle—Loki unleashing years of pent-up rage and jealousy, Thor having no choice but to defend himself.” Skipping the battle, then Thor destroys the Bifrost and Odin saves them from falling. So we circle back to this moment. The script only says, “Loki searches his father’s face, looking for some kind of approval, some kind of redemption, but all he sees is disappointment and regret. Loki lets go.” The movie adds in the dialogue. So why here? After a film painting Loki as the villain (thanks to the cut scenes), they decide to throw in some dialogue that helps explain Loki’s motives—he just wants to please Odin. I’m thinking the filmmakers wanted to throw in a sympathy card for Loki, but didn’t want the audience to feel too sympathetic, considering he was being set up to be the main villain in The Avengers, so they cut the scenes showing Loki being bullied by Thor and Volstagg, which would have painted Loki as a very sympathetic character. Either way, they took care to write in a character not fully bad and not fully good, a character with the possibility of redemption, a character that undergoes an identity crisis and struggles to cope, and a character that has a complicated past that leads to a complicated future. And I am grateful for that.
Even so, I would have loved to see the movie with all these cut scenes kept in. I think it really would have thrown the Loki as the cold-hearted villain presentation off kilter.
"no one bad is ever truly bad and no one good is ever truly good" catch me overanalyzing that quote, fucking hell loki
VAX-SamWilson/CaptainAmerica by batmankm on DeviantArt
I love it I love it I love it I love it I love it I love it
Mobius is so done with Loki lmaooo
Announcement Tom Hiddleston | Marvel Studios’ Loki | Disney+
confused Loki is my favorite Loki
Favourite Marvel Movie Moments / Avengers (2012)
‘If it’s all the same to you, I’ll have that drink now.’
TOM HIDDLESTON as LOKI LAUFEYSON
— Loki series
Okay but when is the last time someone simply, without qualifiers or censure, said this to Loki, in THIS timeline? Remember this is Avengers Assemble Loki. That little “okay” is a sound of pleased surprise that he is put on an even footing with the person who has the power and authority in a scenario, without being put down (either outright or via microaggression), and a male authority (father figure) no less. That’s good, guys. There might be hope for this show.
He’s already a better father than odin
PLEASE LET HIM BE LOKI’S FATHER FIGURE HE NEEDS ONE SO BAD (jeff goldblum does not count he was a daddy not a father)
To be honest, when I saw this
my first thought was that, finally, someone sits down with Loki, talks with Loki about his past, and don’t shouts (at least not shown) to his face what a bad person he is.
That conversation can seem annoying, but it’s not a fight. Mobius seems to actually listen to Loki, even if he is annoyed by him too.
Loki has literally not had the chance to sit down and just have a decent conversation with someone so the bar is on the ground XD
i also really like their poses in this screencap in the cafe,, loki looks like a young teen and mobius is leaning a bit closer, like a parent would while listening to their kid,, and he is holding a newspaper!! they really said “how do we make them look as much like a father and child duo as possible”
@screeching-painter-witch / ^ this detail above too is something I did not see first. Interesting.
Hey, can you create when Loki runs to escape Jötunheim?
I admire how fast the Frost giants are, despite their size.
I really love this scene, how it shows just how much of a calming influence Loki can be to Thor, right up until the point that the giant calls Thor “Princess” at which point Loki knows they’re in the shit because he knew that Thor would overreact to that. So when they try to flee the attack Loki’s concerned for Thor as he doesn’t want to see him hurt or possibly killed because at this point he does still truly love Thor.
I love that we get to see Loki’s skills aswell as his magic, his close hand to band combat. He’s graceful and practical in his attacks rather than the brash go in all guns blazing of Thor.
I also really love Loki’s appearance here, how his clothing cinches in at the waist and flows out over his hips. Its neither overly masculine or feminine but appears to give the silhouette of somewhere in between. This could be a subtle nod to Loki’s genderfluidity and his ability to shape-shift. Because this costume would work for both sexes.
CRICUT DESIGN SPACE UPDATE PETITION
Hi guys, this is completely different than what I usually post, but I would like to ask you all to sign this petition (it’s a serious one this time, I swear!!). Cricut is a company that makes precision cutting machines for crafting. To use to machine, you have to use their software called Design Space, where you can upload your designs in order to cut them with the machine. Here’s what the petition is about, in their words because they explain it better than I do:
Cricut has just announced they will be limiting our Design space uploads unless we pay monthly fees to use our machines. As many at home crafters know 20 uploads a month is not enough! We paid for these machines and continue to pay for tools & supplies. Now they are going to make these machines useless to anyone who doesn’t want to pay their monthly fees. Even if you don’t use their fonts or images! For many people who use different programs to make their own designs this is very heartbreaking news. Lets make it known we do not agree!!!!
Forcing people to pay $9.99 a month (the premium plan is $120 a year) on top of the cost of buying the machine ($180-$400) is ridiculous. This screws over small artists and small businesses who heavily use Cricut because this update will start requiring a subscription to use the machine and software they’ve already purchased.
When I went to a Comic Con way back before this whole pandemic thing, I ran into multiple people who had used Cricut to cut out some parts of their outfits (Cricut can cut cloth, leather, iron-on vinyl, and do engraving and all sorts of other things). So Cricut is screwing over cosplayers too.
I saw a great comparison online: “Imagine you buy a Nintendo Switch and a copy of a game. What if you were only allowed to play that game for 30 minutes a month unless you purchased a Nintendo Online Subscription? How would you feel? This is what Cricut is pulling on us right now.” What good is buying a machine if you are forced to pay extra every month to even use it?
Cricut’s software already sucks (it’s glitchy and very limited), and most people (myself included) have figured out ways to get around those limitations by doing almost nothing in Design Space—designing things in other programs and then uploading them to Design Space when they’re ready to be cut. And so now they’re making you pay for more than 20 uploads per month (which is hardly anything, considering most projects have multiple layers, all of which need to be uploaded separately). And if you upload something and you realize you’ve made a mistake or it’s not quite right (which happens a lot), well… now you’ve wasted one of your free uploads.
This is a list of actions people can take (even if they’re not familiar with Cricut or don’t use it):
https://www.reddit.com/r/cricut/comments/m4x536/consolidated_list_of_actions_to_take/
This reminds me of Disney+ making subscribers pay an additional fee to watch new movies. They’re just trying to get as much money out of people as they can. Which is a change of tune, because back in 2014 they said “creative freedom should be free”:
Well anyway, this is making me mad so I thought I’d share it.
just wanting to prove a quick point here. reblog if you believe loki is a complex, well-developed, three-dimensional character who didn’t deserve to be killed in the first 5 minutes of the movie. let’s see how many we are
That “death” still has me fucking heated. My partner grabbed my knee in the movie theater and asked “are you ok babe? Should we leave?” *sigh* even my partner who loathes Hiddleston admitted “that shit was raw, who kills off a major character—who does that to LOKI?” He said later on…
"wow i cant believe you like villains. you know they've killed people right?" yeah and it was funny and sexy whats your point
It doesn’t matter how well-written, developed, and deep a character is, there will always be a group of people in the fandom that will reduce that character to 2 or 3 traits and then misinterpret everything they do based on those 2 or 3 traits which may or may not even be accurate to that character.