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At this hour, and here I am, overthinking what Olivia said to John before he was officially introduced as Captain America.
Because she made it OBVIOUS, CLEAR, CRYSTAL CLEAR that people would LOVE him â all he had to do was be himself. And how Bucky simply CHOSE to hate him with every ounce of his being because John was taking a place that, in Buckyâs mind, didnât belong to him. He was stealing the spot of someone who gave it up (donât get me wrong, I adore Sam). But Bucky didnât give John the slightest chance to just be John; he only saw an impostor, and that made John see himself as one.
It gave a face and a voice to his deepest fears â of not being enough, of not being accepted, of being seen as a copy of someone unreachable.
Thatâs it, 6 p.m. on a Wednesday, my headphones blasting Never Be Like You by Flume.
⪠I'm only human, can't you see? I made, I made a mistake Please just look me in my face Tell me everything's okay âŞ
Whenever the thunderbolts go on missions, US Agent always comes back covered in grime.
Dusts from fallen concrete blocks, mud from the forest floor, sometimes even glitter (those bank robbers certainly were something). John always looked like he just fought for his life in the trenches, even while arresting car issuance scammers.
He not a trained assassin, or a symbol for government pride (anymore). When Walkers in battle heâs just a soldier. Heâll tactically role, duck and cover, dive into smoke grenades, and now that heâs enhanced he can freely run into crumbling buildings and in front of others before they can be hit by any shrapnel or glitter bomb.
After a mission all his white stripes are stained brown and red. Heâs got scrapes on his face and dirt under his nails. They go out for coffee and Walker still comes back with a giant stain on his shirt. John goes with Bucky to tune his bike and is somehow more dirty than the one who did the mechanical work.
Until he got his little beret. It was a gift from Ava, a gag gift, because he wanted to get rid of the helmet. But he actually liked it, and on his âreckless for no reasonâ dives it got torn and dirty. He was so distraught that Bob offered to fix it and make it fit more with his costume. So John and Ava brainstormed ideas, Alexei and John brainstormed even BETTER ideas (âthink of the marketing! Of the brand!â). And he sprang months soaring with Bucky and Ava to fight without hats falling off. So now he has a silly little beret, a new fighting style, and he doesnât come back from missions looking like the swamp thing.
Not sure how I feel about the beret to be honest. I just donât trust the Russos not to screw him.
And he absolutely still jumps in front of the others, even to block glitter bombs. đââď¸
Every good Marvel (or Disney) movie receives several prayers to not mess it up in the sequel. I do feel like Wyatt Russell is doing an RDJ thing though. Like his minuete facial expression and line deliveries add so much depth that they could give him the worst lines and itâd still wouldnât ruin him.
Oh Wyatt isnât the issue. Anything he gets, he will *absolutely* deliver on. Although Iâm dying to know what he meant when he said heâs going to do âa different John than was seen in the past two installmentsâ.
What I meant I guess is the Russos writing that stupid post-credits scene where John is made to look like an idiot. Thatâs what I worry about. Although Iâm also choosing to believe that John is just rage-baiting the hell out of Yelena.
I love rage-baiter characters. Itâd also be a fun way to take his comic relief role and asshole aspects.
I like thinking that John is super competent, smart, and capable on the battlefield and during missions, but is just a little absent minded in normal daily life. I think that fits with his history and previous portrayals, and we get to see Walker on a team with people he trusts, without all the professionalism and service, while having faith in his strength and abilities, and also after incredibly depressing and traumatic events. It might be different but I donât think itâll be out of character
I can see that falling into the âdumb blondeâ trope or downplaying his characters capabilities, but I think the writing in thunderbolts handles that really well. Like Ava does bring Nico up, but John doesnât feel shame or guilt about it and actively fires back. Yelena says heâs good at his job, and his point about the bomb and variables does ACTUALLY happen, despite several others calling him dumb about it. Heâs also given several sympathetic scenes without erasing any of his flaws. In universe I think he is looked down on, but the writing of the story shows that he isnât an idiot.
(Also what interview has Wyatt done for Walker about doomsday??? Please share id love to see it)
Whenever the thunderbolts go on missions, US Agent always comes back covered in grime.
Dusts from fallen concrete blocks, mud from the forest floor, sometimes even glitter (those bank robbers certainly were something). John always looked like he just fought for his life in the trenches, even while arresting car issuance scammers.
He not a trained assassin, or a symbol for government pride (anymore). When Walkers in battle heâs just a soldier. Heâll tactically role, duck and cover, dive into smoke grenades, and now that heâs enhanced he can freely run into crumbling buildings and in front of others before they can be hit by any shrapnel or glitter bomb.
After a mission all his white stripes are stained brown and red. Heâs got scrapes on his face and dirt under his nails. They go out for coffee and Walker still comes back with a giant stain on his shirt. John goes with Bucky to tune his bike and is somehow more dirty than the one who did the mechanical work.
Until he got his little beret. It was a gift from Ava, a gag gift, because he wanted to get rid of the helmet. But he actually liked it, and on his âreckless for no reasonâ dives it got torn and dirty. He was so distraught that Bob offered to fix it and make it fit more with his costume. So John and Ava brainstormed ideas, Alexei and John brainstormed even BETTER ideas (âthink of the marketing! Of the brand!â). And he sprang months soaring with Bucky and Ava to fight without hats falling off. So now he has a silly little beret, a new fighting style, and he doesnât come back from missions looking like the swamp thing.
Not sure how I feel about the beret to be honest. I just donât trust the Russos not to screw him.
And he absolutely still jumps in front of the others, even to block glitter bombs. đââď¸
Every good Marvel (or Disney) movie receives several prayers to not mess it up in the sequel. I do feel like Wyatt Russell is doing an RDJ thing though. Like his minuete facial expression and line deliveries add so much depth that they could give him the worst lines and itâd still wouldnât ruin him.
Bucky secretly loves that the rest of the team feels comfortable enough to annoy him. He likes when John and Yelena are going at it and suddenly he hears âRight, Bucky? Tell him I am right and he is wrong!â or when Ava starts making fun of his cereal choice at the breakfast table. It makes him feel normal.
He loves that they listen to him and follow his orders (most of the time) because they respect him, not because theyâre afraid of him. Heâs not the Winter Soldier anymore, heâs just Bucky.
John has the fastest switch up from âIâm an asshole and better than all of youâ to âgenuine kind and loyal friendâ.
One day heâs handing out gag gifts and his own autograph, the next he gave Bob a audio recorder he looked for during a 2 month span, because Bob mentioned wanting to get his thoughts out and that the tower is lonely without them, and John had to get it from an antique store because Bob likes when the buttons click and are analog and John had to fix parts of it with YouTube tutorials and he added a blue strap so Bob can carry it and also his favorite color is blue.
Also signed by US Agent.
Bucky doesnât hate the thunderbolts. Genuinely. Theyâre fine, theyâre like- okay. Ava looks at him like a nervous fan sometimes, and Alexei raves about him like heâs a celebrity which is weird but not a bad weird. John is John, acting like when they first met, some weird mix of fanboy and brotherhood, itâs less weird then Ava and Alexei so thereâs that. Bob and Yelena are the most normal, Bob only has a vague idea of who he is and Yelena treats him like every other ânormalâ hero.
Well. Technically not. Ms Marvel knows him, fangirls a bit, but she doesnât dry off his arm after dishes or hide stickers on the side to check if he notices like Ava. Joaquin likes Bucky, thinks he cool and strong and unstoppable, but he doesnât get Bucky matching mugs or brainstorm cereal flavor names with Bucky like Alexei does. That Spider-Guy is friendly and sarcastic, makes ill timed jokes at the soldiers expense while praising his abilities, but he doesnât give Bucky fist bumps after battles, or make tacos to Buckyâs special tastes like John. The new Hawkeye knows OF him, treats him like an ally, but she doesnât give him book recommendations, or gift him hand made pottery like Bob. Sam knows him, sees him, trusts him, but Captain America doesnât prepare nightmare tea at 3:00 AM, or sings bad Russians songs with Bucky while strength training like Yelena.
However, theyâre not great. At times Ava is too dense to get a boundary, or Alexei is too loud too early. John lies to ignore problems, Bob can go on anxious ramblings for hours, and even Yelena snaps at them over pasta that took one too many tries to get right. He has to be here, Val dragged him into this. So when he leaves notes, plans group walks, dishes out compliments, or notes down therapist numbers and plays old Russian records, he has to, to be a good leader. If he grimaces at the bad press itâs not because he cares about them, he just isnât a fan of fake news. When he laughs at Alexeiâs joke or smiles after they laugh at his- itâs to be expected, the appropriate reaction.
So when Sam asks why he hates them, why he doesnât just leave. He says he doesnât hate them. He says theyâre fine and that heâd really like the Avengers copyright. (Yelena has been sulking for weeks. She said she hated the poster that Alexei got for them, but her eyes sparkled when she was labeled an avenger with her whole team.) Sam makes a joke about Bucky taking the shield too. (Johnâs is still bent like a taco. Once Bucky, Bob, and John all tried pulling it into place- it didnât even budge. Bob apologized profusely and John waved him off. Bucky picked it up from the floor. He noticed the metals of honor welded deep within the rings of metal.) Sam mentions how much time heâs been spending with them, he hopes Buckyâs being a good influence. (Him and Ava take daily pain meds, his are for phantom or shoulder pains hers are pretty for daily destabilizing aches. Sheâd forgotten to take hers when they had a movie night, and fell asleep on the couch. She woke up wincing in pain, he hadnât drifted off just yet. She started tearing up, fully awake now, a little bit there a little bit not. He held his hand outâpalm upâa pain killer. She looked at him with bleary eyes and sighed with through tightest smile heâd seen her make. After a minute she laughed quietly and he gave her a half smile. She fell asleep with a sigh, he fell asleep with a head on his shoulder.)
He doesnât hate them, and thats as much as anyone knows.
Iâm in love with how the Thunderbolts* depicts heroâs. Because theyâre good like automatically. Bob isnât tempted by power and then CHOOSES to be a good person, he just is. His mental illness doesnât lead him to being a bad person, all he wants is his friends and to be useful. He jumps out of the car to shoot at the sky just because he wants his team to make it out okay. John has protect built into his every action, automatically jumping in front of bullets and handing out fruit so casually. Ava always comes back, and she never leaves. Sheâs the one to suggest jumping into the void for yelena, without even knowing if sheâs alive. Alexei immediately welcomes this new team. None of these actions are ever overtly stated. Bucky has a couple âdo I really wanna do thisâ but moments later heâs punching sentry in the face and jumping into the void.
They ALL come back to save people when the void appears. We donât see them explaining why they want to be good, or why they care about their team. They just do. They save and they love and none of them ever have to prove that theyâre good. They just ARE good.
john and yelena the type of siblings to argue over charging cables and mission strategies, and roast each otherâs forms during sparring.
yelena would fully tackle john down when he expects it the least and john would fight back (though mindful of his strength) but the moment when one elbows the other in the head or in the guts they are stopping.
during missions, the moment when one of them gets too close to actually getting lethally harmed, the other goes on full protective mode and no enemy is coming out of that chaos alive.
that being said, johnâs overprotectiveness and self-sacrificial tendencies causes the most fights. he knows yelena is more than capable of handling herself (hell, she almost kicked his ass in the vault) but he is hyper aware that yelena doesnât have the super soldier stamina against a bullet.
and yelena hates when john throws himself in front of danger because usually, john knows what he is doing, he is really good at combat strategies and mission plans, ex-military and all (not that she would ever say this to his face) but what the hell, he can be so stupid sometimes.
neither is ready to grieve someone close to them. and both are too emotionally vulnerable to admit that.
THUNDERTWINS???!!!???
THATSATAG????
Thatâs awesome :)
Yelena and Walker headcannons
They can read minds. They finish the others sentences, set up jokes for the other, and think aloud to each other because itâs the same as thinking in their own head.
âThereâs four armed guards at the front door that means-â
âThat we have to go in from the windows, take out the main generator to force-â
âNightvision so that we can catch them by surprise and because thereâs not a bomb this time-â
â(Shut up John) we can turn back on the lights and fully blind them to either sneak or fight our way through.â
Yelena and John actually went on a mission for Valentina together, Walker did his job well with minimal casualties and proper coms. One of the few jobs Yelena ever enjoyed.
(She also had a job with ghost but that was people in different places doing different things to eventually get a file so she didnât actually meet Ava)
Yelena and Olivia hit it off! Yelena gets embarrassing stories about John and see a softer side of him while Olivia gets to vent and make fun of her ex husband. (They both worried that John would be sad or angry but he was just happy that his favorite people can make each other smile)
After a couple moths Yelena will constantly fall on him. Flips herself onto him on the couch, lays herself on his side after a tough workout, jumps directly on top of him when heâs in bed. (Walker complains and Yelena says heâs not a good enough cushion) They donât realize but it helps John feeling like heâs trusted by his team and Yelena like knowing thereâs always a safe place to land.
Yelena chooses Johnâs suits for press and meetings because she has horrible fashion sense and heâs done being professional for government or fancy people.
They grocery shop the most together
John gets along well with Alexei and Yelena is both annoyed and glad
They both LOVE grilled hotdogs.
They spar together the most often, John usually âlosesâ but that usually because he just tanks her hits.
He just gives her the shield sometimes. She makes grabby hands, he tosses it over, she gives a guy a concussion, slides it back to Walker (only him, Bucky, and Alexei can throw that giant hunk of metal)
Bucky is the annoyed guardian/uncle of the group but John and Yelena are the parents
Not sure parents is the right word for them, maybe guardians in a way that siblings are? They are so sibling coded itâs ridiculous.
But thatâs just my opinion, ignore me.
I adore the âfinishing each otherâs sentencesâ thing! It most definitely drives the others insane. I also love John giving zero fucks about being professional anymore. And who can blame him, really.
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Yeah guardians is better term. I think I meant that while Bucky is leader in public view heâs more of the motivator. Like he points and things and they do them and then look to him for approval.
Yelena and John are the âleadersâ ish of the team, they have the most sway or importance in missions. Yelena comes up with plans and gives orders and information. John is there to shield them from the fallout of their bad ideas, and help make the plan work at all costs and no injuries.
In team relations I imagine they argue like parents. Nothing romantic or anything but they argue about is the team should go out for ice cream or stay in for dinner. (âTeam bonding, we need a break, and you know what the press is like-â âI need a break. I cannot come back from a 10 hour mission to cook for 6 people, and we didnât even restock groceriesâ). And they communicate just through looks what the others need and how they plan to get it too them (*the âAvaâs overstimulated turn of the lightsâ look* *the âwant me to rant about wasted electricity and the benefit of sunlight during day? Get others to other room or park?â Squint* *the âyeah Alexeis been needing an energy outletâ blink*)
Hot take but John is the smartest in combat and Yelena is the street smartest. Bucky handles the public.
Yelena falls asleep around people. She just canât sleep alone, but sheâll fall asleep in Alexeiâs arms when he carries her out of medical. Johnâs shoulder on the couch. In front of Ava when sheâs braiding blonde hair on the edge of her bed. When Bob is re-capping his newest book from the other seat. When Bucky and her are watching the others from the bar counter.
No one minds. Maybe they live her or something. Sheâs the glue and the role model and the leader. When they notice sheâs nodded off they huff with a smile and hold her a little tighter, speak a little softer, wrap an arm around her shoulder. All of them respond the same way, she just brings out that side of them. Alexei will tuck her into bed, move the hair out of her face and take off the itchy socks, John and Bob will just let her sleep forever, slouched on their side or curled up in a loveseat where time is frozen, and Ava and Bucky wake her up after a nice cozy nap, when they finishing braiding her hair or when itâs time for dinner, coaxing her to a softer place or an active activity.
The important part, is that when Yelena wakes up she knows she is loved. She wakes up in her bed, tucked in with the lights off and fans on, she can barely remember her dad kissing her forehead. When she stirs itâs to the continued readings of Bob or the soft snores of Walker. She opens her eyes to the comforting faces and soft sarcastic voices of her favorite brooding Bucky and amused Ava.
Itâs hard to see yourself badly when there are people that will look at- do that- talk to you- like youâre worth something. She feels so fulfilled because she knows she has them when she wakes up and when she falls asleep. She wants to talk to them at the table and race them to the A-jet. Wants to go to the mall or the pool or cafes, what ever get Bucky rolling his eyes and Bob stifling laughter and John and Alexei in an intense and silly debate that Ava is constantly trying to derail. The first people she ever truly saved, and they still save her every day.
John talks a fuck ton. Certified yapper. It feels like he never sits still, and that heâs never heard of comfortable silence. The second his eyes open in the morning, he up and moving and his mouth is running.
But he also listens.
He knows how each of his teammates take their coffee, (or tea, in Avaâs case), and how they like their eggs. He knows what street Bucky grew up on, and can recite the names of every airmen in Alexeis squadron from his time in the service.
He observes.
This is so cannon to me. I also think itâs second nature, like he doesnât mention it and doesnât want credit in any way because this is just what he does for people he cares about. (He always knew Lemars exact coffee orders and hold to fold his laundry. Heâd make sure his and Olivaâs bed always had her favorite pillows and blankets. He made playlist of every song his son would laugh too, even if it was just a small giggle.)
Soon after it became known that Bob and John were together.
*The trio is sitting on the couch*
Yelena: Hey, John. If you hurt Bob, I'll hurt you. Got it? John, tiredly rolling his eyes: Whatever. *leaves to get them all drinks* Bob: *smirks after him, suddenly feeling a noticeable smack on the shoulder* Bob: Hey! Yelena, warningly pointing a finger at him: That applies to you too. Bob: Yeah, I already got that John is screwed if anything happens. Yelena: No, you didnât. John is like a brother to me too. If you hurt him, I will hurt you. Bob: Umm... You remember Iâm invulnerable, right? Yelena: I can be extremely creative when it comes to protecting my family. Bob: Alright, understood⌠Bob, a few seconds later: If we are both your family, and youâre okay with us being together, does that mean you support incest? *gets hit in the face with a pillow*
Ava always had long hair.
She hung on to memories and dreams of those long past. She held grudges and hope and would never let someone near her with a pair of scissors. She used to braid it as a kidâbefore the phasing. It was messy, loose, and handmade but she always loved having curls when they were taken out. Then hair ties wouldnât stay in her hair, and the tension of anything pulling near her head would only exasperate the aches and pains and migraines from all of her cells ceasing to be.
Then she was saved. She could breathe again, without the air passing through her lungs or her blood phasing from her bones. She got to live again. She styled and curled (even dyed, though that didnât stick) it was freedom. But, she was still working. It was all she had, all she was, she couldnât let it go, let it fall, cut it off.
So she put up ponytails, ensured theyâd fit inside the mask. Out of her eyes but just enough in front to frame her face. It was balanced, calculated, it was good. She got the job done and her past was behind her now. She wasnât like that anymore. She chose this.
Then she met these insufferable bastards. These goofs who talk too much and trust to easily. Who stare at her with pride, concern, and awe (sheâd never had that. Itâs always pity, always apathy, she was a tool, that was all theyâsheâcould see-). They werenât agents or soldiers or heroâs, they joked and failed and got back up again. And it was good. It was fun and messy and it made her so happy. They stuck together. All she wanted when she left was to run back. To laugh with Yelena, to share glances with John, to hug Bob and laugh at Alexei, to help out the winter soldier, to give him a hand (Bob would like that one).
It was sudden, yet she didnât clock it at first. But she wasnât thinking of labs and orphanages and death. She thought of the breakfast club and yoga mats and the grape sour candies Alexei kept losing mysteriously. It happened when John got his hair cut. When Bob got his hair cut. When sheâd asked for one too. When Mel and Val were commenting on shampoos and Yelena was holding the mirror for her and Bob was giving a thumbs ups between his nervous glances of his own hair, and Bucky would nod at her is approval and John would make that stupid face when he said ânot badâ and Alexei would dish compliments like he could only see them all without flaw.
She let it go. She was here, with them. What an amazing present.
I loveee thinking about the character growth everyone goes through in the 14 months before the end credits scene.
John gets beret yet keeps taco
Bucky gets fluffier hair and files divorc-er copyright
Yelena has tablet and new hairstyle and outfit and is leader trying to figure out publicity training
Alexei sells soul to capitalism
Bob has haircut! And has book! And is peaceful!
Ava got a hair cut too! She is so slay <3 [I will project everything on to her oh my god she is has so much potential]
ThunderboltsâŚPool headcannons?? I guessssss
Ava gets nervous and self conscious in swimsuits, sheâs used to needing full body coverage or she disintegrates
Ava wears all black swimsuits (some with sleeves some without) and often a big sun hat (unless she is roped into splash or die fights) ((probably also sunglasses))
Ava and Bucky have fun cocktails, theyâre divas
Alexei likes LOOKING at the cocktails but he always claims thereâs too much ice, not enough alcohol, and too difficult to drink (sometimes he indulges anyway)
John and Yelena are evil in the water. They will drag you under, they will splash you and your phone, stop being buzzkills and swim!
Alexei cannon ball.
Bob and Bucky are land menaces, theyâre pushing people in theyâre stealing phones and recording blackmail (Bucky also makes sure everyoneâs stuff isnât destroyed via water)
Bob is jacked, but usually wears a rashguard anyway
John used to be on the water polo team (he randomly asserts he was on many sport teams in high school, no one can disprove it)
Yelena wears a baggy rashguard and swim shorts. She is her to win the wars not get a tan
Bucky is only here to get a tan
Sometimes the great metal armed leader will hop in the water, completely crush what ever game theyâre playing and then go eat strawberries by the side of the pool
Alexei runs wild. They gave him a water gun and he is scarily accurate with it and can seemingly pull it in and out of thin air
Bob LOVES the pool. Bro is joymaxxing and nonstop smiling
Bob always accidentally hit the beach ball out of the poolâto which John or Bucky had to retrieveâand he felt bad, but eventually he started doing it on purpose, and then it became a game of keep away
Whenever the thunderbolts go on missions, US Agent always comes back covered in grime.
Dusts from fallen concrete blocks, mud from the forest floor, sometimes even glitter (those bank robbers certainly were something). John always looked like he just fought for his life in the trenches, even while arresting car issuance scammers.
He not a trained assassin, or a symbol for government pride (anymore). When Walkers in battle heâs just a soldier. Heâll tactically role, duck and cover, dive into smoke grenades, and now that heâs enhanced he can freely run into crumbling buildings and in front of others before they can be hit by any shrapnel or glitter bomb.
After a mission all his white stripes are stained brown and red. Heâs got scrapes on his face and dirt under his nails. They go out for coffee and Walker still comes back with a giant stain on his shirt. John goes with Bucky to tune his bike and is somehow more dirty than the one who did the mechanical work.
Until he got his little beret. It was a gift from Ava, a gag gift, because he wanted to get rid of the helmet. But he actually liked it, and on his âreckless for no reasonâ dives it got torn and dirty. He was so distraught that Bob offered to fix it and make it fit more with his costume. So John and Ava brainstormed ideas, Alexei and John brainstormed even BETTER ideas (âthink of the marketing! Of the brand!â). And he sprang months soaring with Bucky and Ava to fight without hats falling off. So now he has a silly little beret, a new fighting style, and he doesnât come back from missions looking like the swamp thing.