Damnatio Memoriae

Condemnation of Memory

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This blog was created to follow the practice of damnatio memoriae, which was a practice used throughout the ancient world of condemning the memory of those in a community or those in charge of a community who had committed treason, tyranny, or something similar. The practice is simply removing individuals from carvings, paintings, sculptures, and history itself to condemn their behavior and their influence on their community. With that said, DO NOT harass the individuals on this blog. This is for the purpose of informing yourself and removing their influence from your practice only. If we find a follower of ours is harassing an individual or a group, they will be blocked. When learning about the behaviors this blog details, it is better for everyone if the groups or individuals posted about are simply disengaged with, this protects our viewers as individuals and the spiritual community as a whole. Submissions are welcome but proof of behavior is required. Trigger warnings will be added to all posts that need them.

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Aliakai

TW: Antisemitism

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The pagan YouTuber Aliakai (she/they) attempts to present herself as a community figure, but is rife with problems ranging from toxic debatebro rhetoric and misinformation to antisemitism.

She is a hypocrite, constantly railing on Christianity and the Bible, including the Old Testament, which Christians barely use, and treating the Odyssey as a Bible. This is neither historically accurate nor the intended purpose of ancient Greek myths.

Her anti-”monotheism” runs constantly throughout her platforms, and one could say this is their most consistent issue.

Tweet archived here.

As for Aliakai’s antisemitism, it requires a deeper look. In this video, we find multiple instances of their antisemitism. Referencing the Old Testament to try to defeat the Christians just ends up being antisemitic almost every time. They repeatedly bring up Elohim and specifically Jewish stories in their attempt to “debunk” or “out-logic” Christianity. The Old Testament isn’t meant to be a strict rulebook - it’s also a collection of stories, a fact which Aliakai seems to purposefully ignore.

They talk about Sodom and Gomorrah and the sins committed therein as if the two cities were not specifically written to be bad examples. Additionally, ancient Greeks famously abducted women as the spoils of war. It is incredibly hypocritcal to judge mythical Sodom and Gomorrah without even a mention of the known, historical practices in ancient Greece. She then ties homophobia to the fact that God smote people with hemorrhoids, once again, in a Jewish tale. She is aware that the infamous Leviticus quote is likely about pederasty, but continues to use it to try to posture Judaism and Christianity as inferior anyway.

Aliakai criticizes the God of the Old Testament for smiting Job when Apollo also smites Cassandra in an equally cruel manner.

She then claims that Exodus is actually about punishing Egyptian gods and that the pharaoh is somehow the true victim in the story, not the enslaved Jews.

She also implies everyone takes the Bible literally, committing the common fallacy of equating all Christians with dangerous evangelicals. There is no “common Christian theology” as she claims. They are also condescending to trinitarians, while simultaneously assuming all christians are trinitarians. The text of the Bible does explicitly refer to the Trinity, contrary to their statement.

Any attempt to try to find plotholes in the Bible is pointless, and the amount of time and energy Aliakai wastes is akin to an atheist in 2016.

Here are some furtner examples of Aliakai’s antisemitism:

(Archived first link)(Archived second link)

Here she implies Christianity and Judaism are the same faith, which anyone knowledgeable in either should be able to tell you is both incorrect and a dangerous statement.

(Archived here)

This shows an incredibly poor understanding of how religious oppression is currently functioning in society, and again demonstrates their anti-monotheism. Do we need to discuss Myanmar’s militant Buddhist genocide of Rohingya Muslims, for example? Or Hindu lynchings of Muslims? The list goes on.

Aliakai’s archived talk for the Hindutva org Indica here. To her credit, she did sever her relationship with Indica (archived). However, for a politically inclined youtuber who can research, this is a dangerous lack of vetting. Same can be said of the others who partook, of course.

Despite disavowing Indica, they never disavowed Butler, who is undeniably a fascist. In fact, Aliakai continues to recommend Edward Butler a year after the community-wide revelation of his fascism.

Here is her only acknowledgement of Butler's fascism (archived), without explicitly agreeing or disagreeing with the blogger's criticism of him.

In this Tweet (archived), they are making a lot of assumptions about Butler here and being too generous.

They give Butler a lot of leniency despite his years-long, public love affair with fascism. This is an extremely weak willed response to finding out an associate is fascist. This is not antifascism. This is not accountability.

In this video, Aliakai tries to present a case for making an SPG more official of Ares and mental health. In this video, around 8:03, she hints that Ares is the god of police officers who brutalize protesters. Considering police brutality and the unjust use of police violence, this is incredibly insensitive and quite racist. Police do not have anything to do with justice, and claiming as much for a shared community experience is bold.

Performing a Hellenic ritual for Ukraine with a Heathen without involving any Slavic pagans is morally questionable, as is claiming Ukraine is dedicated to Demeter’s arts. This is an act of further colonialism against a country currently being invaded by imperialist forces.

Asking viewers not to invoke Eris simply because of personal beef for a supposedly aid based ritual is infantile.

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Phemonoi

Phemonoi repeatedly falls into anti-monotheism, which not only alienates people from supposedly open and welcoming spaces, but often borders the line of folkism. The continual mention of monotheism opposed to Christianity by default includes Judaism and Islam. Phemonoi goes out of their way to include Judaism and Islam in all their criticizations when they mean Christianity (yet this is still a gross generalisation).

This is an extension of the nonexistant binary between monotheism & polytheism. Polytheism has never been entirely positive and inclusive, and monotheism has never been entirely negative and exclusive. This binary is created by some pagans to further their persecution complex's.

For Phemonoi, this also crosses into antisemitism, saying that the persecution of Jews is equal to supposed persecution of Pagans. This is entirely ahistorical, and common within those who think they are severely oppressed for being pagan. An ideology which harms many religious minorities who are systemically oppressed.

They also spread ahistorical information on the cultural exchange of mythology between cultures. Additionally the idea that deities, especially pagan ones, are entirely positive goes entirely against the nature of deities. Pagan deities are neither good nor bad, simply balanced and unbalanced, the same as the nature they represent.

Lastly, Phenomoii further supresses minorities within the spiritual community by further rhetoric that white sage simply "comes from the earth" so should be accessible to everyone for spiritual uses. It also generalises Native American practices and ignores the fact that smudging is not a universal practice.

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Four Servers, One Cult

WARNING: THIS POST IS LONG AND EXCEEDS THE IMAGE LIMIT TUMBLR HAS, THEREFORE THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE LABELED SECTIONS AND A REBLOG TO KEEP THE POST ORGANIZED TL;DR the staff members of the below servers have displayed a historic and present behavior of bullying, abusing power, making absurd claims of priesthood, seership, and godspousal that can be easily debunked, anti semitic behavior, and tone policing of BIPOC when they discuss serious issues such as blood quantum. They also permit art and content thieves to post in their servers. Some screenshots will be from Flowers of Hellenism, a server that was deleted due to its original owner recognizing the cesspool the staff had made it. However the behaviors in Flowers of Hellenism have shown to be continued. Server Names and Purposes: Olympus Peaks - a Hellenism focused witchcraft and religious server Keepers of Kemeticism - a Kemetic focused witchcraft and religious server

Godly Galaxies - a 17+ interfaith server focused on godspousal, priesthood, paganism, and witchcraft Comfort Hollows - a private access priesthood server only accessible by approved members of the above servers Server IDs: Olympus Peaks - 909719311306866689 Keepers of Kemeticism - 908441420686315540 Godly Galaxies - 937865249418256456 Comfort Hollows - 907187922686595085 Users Responsible for the Communities: Olympus Peaks Owners: LiteralMochi#0635 (697152938438688848), liliflwrs#4891 (660206756546478136), olliebutanxious#8258 (625853397899411496) Moderators: jaybird#7056 (758832979794722846), AuroraNoctifer#6969 (435917258913742849), aspis#7638(315956449631141889), yairo#9699 (539123876765106178), Laramie#5655 (729109174079848519), Artiosun#9014 (731426325730164779), kafun#2376 (468272825455869952) Keepers of Kemeticism Owners: Huntress#5176 (292843897548439553), Artiosun#9014 (731426325730164779), dinosocks#1018 (848966473611345961), r/1#4534 (829133673529737246) Administrators: clowns.#3654 (750436259985489985), liliflwrs#4891 (660206756546478136), Confused Mia#2474 (580999971906650132), AuroraNoctifer#6969 (435917258913742849) Moderators: bathtub#2222 (567628126717214720), BadBitch_Rehz#9340(507617058574434316), LiteralMochi#0635 (697152938438688848), bunny#0658 (196615634526666752) Godly Galaxies Owners: AuroraNoctifer#6969 (435917258913742849), Laramie#5655 (729109174079848519) Moderators: LiteralMochi#0635 (697152938438688848), liliflwrs#4891 (660206756546478136), kafun#2376 (468272825455869952), aexists#1969 (553276015837839370) Comfort Hollows Owners: LiteralMochi#0635 (697152938438688848), liliflwrs#4891 (660206756546478136), yairo#9699 (539123876765106178) Moderators: AceitunaOscura#7810 (693267446597025854), AuroraNoctifer#6969 (435917258913742849), Laramie#5655 (729109174079848519)

BEHAVIOR 1: ANTISEMITISM AND RACISM

A Flowers of Hellenism Staff member who claims to be Jewish created a quiz entitled "What Jew Lizard Are You?" and encouraged other staff members to take the quiz, which they did, with no questioning from staff as a whole or the other Jewish person on the team despite the team having issues with antisemitism in the past with a former owner.

When an Indigenous member of the server made a post in the appropriate channel (see below) with regard to their issues with blood quantum, a staff member discussed discomfort with their "anti-white rhetoric" with no major retribution and another complained that it sounded "venty". The members post was this:

This message instigated a discussion where Native members brought up their issues with blood quantum and behind the scenes was met with this:

While these comments did start an argument, nothing definitive was done discipline wise to the staff members who made these comments and they were allowed to dodge accountability and remain on staff with no issue.

When a member of Godly Galaxies who is a POC displayed interest in wanting to research/understand Voodou, the owner, AuroraNoctifier who is a white woman responded by gatekeeping and policing how Black a person had to be to partake in Voodou despite admitting she knows next to nothing about the practice.

SEERSHIP, PRIESTHOOD, AND GODSPOUSAL CLAIMS While any of these titles hold general controversy within the pagan community due to difficulty verifying, scammers, and differing beliefs, the claims of these individuals are expansive, power-hungry, and break either their own rules or the rules of the communities they claim to be a part of. AuroraNoctifier, for example, claims to be a Norse Gothi of Tyr despite only working with Tyr for a short period and not greatly participating in the Norse Pagan or Heathen community. She deleted her own Flowers of Heathenry server shortly after Flowers of Hellenism was deleted and hasn't participated in the norse sections of the servers she is a part of very heavily.

The majority of the staff in these servers make priesthood, seer, and godspouse claims to one or more gods.

Even members who aren't beyond the pail when it comes to priesthood or godspousal claims ("particularly close with" is how they phrase godspousal as not to break their own rule on not discussing godspousal) will condescend to members about their interest in priesthood for research purposes or other reasons. If you aren't in the club, its unlikely you'll get verified as a priest or the like easily. The person in the below screenshot addressing a notable portion of a now-defunct offshoot server called Florum Campis as "kiddos" was only 14 or 15 when they made this message and they claim to be a priest of Zeus and have shown interest in godspousal as a minor.

There is also a generalized ego problem when it comes to the idea of the group being priests:

A current member of their priesthood chats and server discussed with us how easy it was to get into this portion of the community by lying:

I honestly can’t believe it was that simple. I am not a priest, never had a desire to be a priest, and never had a calling to be one. I am a solitary practitioner and have been so for years. It was very easy to waltz in and once I got them to respond to the ticket I opened. I asked about priesthood for a deity I worshipped briefly and one I’ve never interacted with at all. I got yes for both from their “verified diviners”, the majority of which were staff or “priests” themselves. I’ve been sitting in the community, even spouted some bullshit about what a modern priest of the pantheon I practice with would do and I haven’t been questioned, pushed, or been a concern at all. In reality, modern priests seldom exist in this pantheon and those that do have to go through an ordainment process with a group. You can’t just claim it. They’re not as well-rounded in their understanding of varying spiritual practices as they’d like to think. I ran into more issues with becoming a “verified diviner” where staff would ask me inane questions such as “what is the weather like where I am” to verify my divining abilities despite my saying that my divining skills lie with emotional matters and deity communication.

The next reblog will have screenshots and details regarding general favoritism, behind the scenes bullying, promoting creators that are known to have issues, art theft, and the general failure to uphold Xenia, which they have supposedly placed a huge emphasis on in their communities via their rules.

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FAVORITISM AND BEHIND THE SCENES BULLYING One of the largest issues this group has is their favoritism that manifests in the manner in which they speak to different members of their servers, how people are treated when conflict or even simple disagreement arises and how members who are perceived as being on the "wrong side" of a conflict are treated. Flowers of Hellenism formerly had a channel dedicated to gossiping and making memes about members within it as well as members in Keepers of Kemeticism and Olympus Peaks. A former staff member attempted to point out that staff had made a commitment to stop gossiping only to be dismissed by LiteralMochi or Moss

As visible above, gossip channel eventually leaked over into main chats for staff where memes and comments were made. This also caused issue when Flowers of Hellenism was closing due to Olympus Peaks being placed on a pedestal as the replacement community despite several members of Flowers of Hellenism being banned from Olympus Peaks simply because the owners or staff disliked them. This would be fine if staff of both of these servers didn't present an obsession with upholding Xenia and mocked the people who were confused about their lack of access behind the scenes

This behavior continued in Olympus Peaks with a similar gossip chat being made.

After another server ended its partnership with Keepers of Kemeticism due to becoming aware of the abusive behavior committed by its staff member, one of the moderators of that server was shadowbanned from Keepers of Kemeticism despite not having anything to do with the conflict or the decision.

CONTENT THEFT This is an individual issue rather than a group-wide one, however the group is aware of this and enables it. Laramie traces art and sells commissions of traced art. They allow her to post about her commissions despite the obvious tracing being discussed behind her back.

This behavior was also performed by Moss (LiteralMochi) with resources provided by a former staff member of Flowers of Hellenism. **THIS SCREENSHOT HAS BEEN EDITED AS LITERALMOCHI WAS MISGENDERED IN THE FIRST ONE**

PROMOTION OF CREATORS WITH ISSUES Finally, Keepers of Kemeticism has a channel for promoting popular, large scale spiritual YouTubers. They formerly promoted Da’at darling and continue to promote Aliakai (https://at.tumblr.com/hellenic-reconstructionism/addressing-aliakais-response/ekxbk1c8bcrj ) Wolf the Red (https://twitter.com/dgpromedia/status/1270477374744924160?s=46&t=rLXdpEdLZjWejVFQ8m3Qbg) and Ocean Keltoi (https://at.tumblr.com/paganbigotscringecomp/ocean-shut-up/mfeiy027llbq). Members of their staff was aware of the major issue with the promotion and presence of members of white supremacist groups in The Hold and continued to promote them anyways. Posts displaying issues with these three creators have been hyperlinked, full blown posts detailing their issues will be made and linked to this post as well (updates will be made note of)

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Updated screenshot as one member was being misgendered in one of the screenshots shared

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Four Servers, One Cult

WARNING: THIS POST IS LONG AND EXCEEDS THE IMAGE LIMIT TUMBLR HAS, THEREFORE THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE LABELED SECTIONS AND A REBLOG TO KEEP THE POST ORGANIZED TL;DR the staff members of the below servers have displayed a historic and present behavior of bullying, abusing power, making absurd claims of priesthood, seership, and godspousal that can be easily debunked, anti semitic behavior, and tone policing of BIPOC when they discuss serious issues such as blood quantum. They also permit art and content thieves to post in their servers. Some screenshots will be from Flowers of Hellenism, a server that was deleted due to its original owner recognizing the cesspool the staff had made it. However the behaviors in Flowers of Hellenism have shown to be continued. Server Names and Purposes: Olympus Peaks - a Hellenism focused witchcraft and religious server Keepers of Kemeticism - a Kemetic focused witchcraft and religious server

Godly Galaxies - a 17+ interfaith server focused on godspousal, priesthood, paganism, and witchcraft Comfort Hollows - a private access priesthood server only accessible by approved members of the above servers Server IDs: Olympus Peaks - 909719311306866689 Keepers of Kemeticism - 908441420686315540 Godly Galaxies - 937865249418256456 Comfort Hollows - 907187922686595085 Users Responsible for the Communities: Olympus Peaks Owners: LiteralMochi#0635 (697152938438688848), liliflwrs#4891 (660206756546478136), olliebutanxious#8258 (625853397899411496) Moderators: jaybird#7056 (758832979794722846), AuroraNoctifer#6969 (435917258913742849), yairo#9699 (539123876765106178), Laramie#5655 (729109174079848519), Artiosun#9014 (731426325730164779), kafun#2376 (468272825455869952) Keepers of Kemeticism Owners: Huntress#5176 (292843897548439553), Artiosun#9014 (731426325730164779), dinosocks#1018 (848966473611345961), r/1#4534 (829133673529737246) Administrators: clowns.#3654 (750436259985489985), Confused Mia#2474 (580999971906650132), AuroraNoctifer#6969 (435917258913742849) Moderators: BadBitch_Rehz#9340(507617058574434316) Godly Galaxies Owners: AuroraNoctifer#6969 (435917258913742849), Laramie#5655 (729109174079848519) Moderators: LiteralMochi#0635 (697152938438688848), liliflwrs#4891 (660206756546478136), kafun#2376 (468272825455869952) Comfort Hollows Owners: LiteralMochi#0635 (697152938438688848), liliflwrs#4891 (660206756546478136), yairo#9699 (539123876765106178) Moderators: AceitunaOscura#7810 (693267446597025854), AuroraNoctifer#6969 (435917258913742849), Laramie#5655 (729109174079848519)

BEHAVIOR 1: ANTISEMITISM AND RACISM

A Flowers of Hellenism Staff member who is Jewish created a quiz entitled "What Jew Lizard Are You?" and encouraged other staff members to take the quiz, which they did, with no questioning from staff as a whole or the other Jewish person on the team despite the team having issues with antisemitism in the past with a former owner. The two Jewish members of staff participating is a non-issue, the issue is the rest of staff, who are not Jewish, being willing to identify themselves with anti semitic caricatures for a joke or not.

When an Indigenous member of the server made a post in the appropriate channel (see below) with regard to their issues with blood quantum, a staff member discussed discomfort with their "anti-white rhetoric" with no major retribution and another complained that it sounded "venty". The members post was this:

This message instigated a discussion where Native members brought up their issues with blood quantum and behind the scenes was met with this:

While these comments did start an argument, nothing definitive was done discipline wise to the staff members who made these comments and they were allowed to dodge accountability and remain on staff with no issue.

When a member of Godly Galaxies who is a POC displayed interest in wanting to research/understand Voodou, the owner, AuroraNoctifier who is a white woman responded by gatekeeping and policing how Black a person had to be to partake in Voodou despite admitting she knows next to nothing about the practice.

SEERSHIP, PRIESTHOOD, AND GODSPOUSAL CLAIMS While any of these titles hold general controversy within the pagan community due to difficulty verifying, scammers, and differing beliefs, the claims of these individuals are expansive, power-hungry, and break either their own rules or the rules of the communities they claim to be a part of. AuroraNoctifier, for example, claims to be a Norse Gothi of Tyr despite only working with Tyr for a short period and not greatly participating in the Norse Pagan or Heathen community. She deleted her own Flowers of Heathenry server shortly after Flowers of Hellenism was deleted and hasn't participated in the norse sections of the servers she is a part of very heavily.

The majority of the staff in these servers make priesthood, seer, and godspouse claims to one or more gods.

Even members who aren't beyond the pail when it comes to priesthood or godspousal claims ("particularly close with" is how they phrase godspousal as not to break their own rule on not discussing godspousal) will condescend to members about their interest in priesthood for research purposes or other reasons. If you aren't in the club, its unlikely you'll get verified as a priest or the like easily. The person in the below screenshot addressing a notable portion of a now-defunct offshoot server called Florum Campis as "kiddos" was only 14 or 15 when they made this message and they claim to be a priest of Zeus and have shown interest in godspousal as a minor.

There is also a generalized ego problem when it comes to the idea of the group being priests:

A current member of their priesthood chats and server discussed with us how easy it was to get into this portion of the community by lying:

I honestly can’t believe it was that simple. I am not a priest, never had a desire to be a priest, and never had a calling to be one. I am a solitary practitioner and have been so for years. It was very easy to waltz in and once I got them to respond to the ticket I opened. I asked about priesthood for a deity I worshipped briefly and one I’ve never interacted with at all. I got yes for both from their “verified diviners”, the majority of which were staff or “priests” themselves. I’ve been sitting in the community, even spouted some bullshit about what a modern priest of the pantheon I practice with would do and I haven’t been questioned, pushed, or been a concern at all. In reality, modern priests seldom exist in this pantheon and those that do have to go through an ordainment process with a group. You can’t just claim it. They’re not as well-rounded in their understanding of varying spiritual practices as they’d like to think. I ran into more issues with becoming a “verified diviner” where staff would ask me inane questions such as “what is the weather like where I am” to verify my divining abilities despite my saying that my divining skills lie with emotional matters and deity communication.

The next reblog will have screenshots and details regarding general favoritism, behind the scenes bullying, promoting creators that are known to have issues, art theft, and the general failure to uphold Xenia, which they have supposedly placed a huge emphasis on in their communities via their rules.

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Updated further to amend staff membership, as certain people have left and one introduction specifying someone’s age was removed at their request

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Four Servers, One Cult

WARNING: THIS POST IS LONG AND EXCEEDS THE IMAGE LIMIT TUMBLR HAS, THEREFORE THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE LABELED SECTIONS AND A REBLOG TO KEEP THE POST ORGANIZED TL;DR the staff members of the below servers have displayed a historic and present behavior of bullying, abusing power, making absurd claims of priesthood, seership, and godspousal that can be easily debunked, anti semitic behavior, and tone policing of BIPOC when they discuss serious issues such as blood quantum. They also permit art and content thieves to post in their servers. Some screenshots will be from Flowers of Hellenism, a server that was deleted due to its original owner recognizing the cesspool the staff had made it. However the behaviors in Flowers of Hellenism have shown to be continued. Server Names and Purposes: Olympus Peaks - a Hellenism focused witchcraft and religious server Keepers of Kemeticism - a Kemetic focused witchcraft and religious server

Godly Galaxies - a 17+ interfaith server focused on godspousal, priesthood, paganism, and witchcraft Comfort Hollows - a private access priesthood server only accessible by approved members of the above servers Server IDs: Olympus Peaks - 909719311306866689 Keepers of Kemeticism - 908441420686315540 Godly Galaxies - 937865249418256456 Comfort Hollows - 907187922686595085 Users Responsible for the Communities: Olympus Peaks Owners: LiteralMochi#0635 (697152938438688848), liliflwrs#4891 (660206756546478136), olliebutanxious#8258 (625853397899411496) Moderators: jaybird#7056 (758832979794722846), AuroraNoctifer#6969 (435917258913742849), yairo#9699 (539123876765106178), Laramie#5655 (729109174079848519), Artiosun#9014 (731426325730164779), kafun#2376 (468272825455869952) Keepers of Kemeticism Owners: Huntress#5176 (292843897548439553), Artiosun#9014 (731426325730164779), dinosocks#1018 (848966473611345961), r/1#4534 (829133673529737246) Administrators: clowns.#3654 (750436259985489985), liliflwrs#4891 (660206756546478136), Confused Mia#2474 (580999971906650132), AuroraNoctifer#6969 (435917258913742849) Moderators: BadBitch_Rehz#9340(507617058574434316), LiteralMochi#0635 (697152938438688848) Godly Galaxies Owners: AuroraNoctifer#6969 (435917258913742849), Laramie#5655 (729109174079848519) Moderators: LiteralMochi#0635 (697152938438688848), liliflwrs#4891 (660206756546478136), kafun#2376 (468272825455869952) Comfort Hollows Owners: LiteralMochi#0635 (697152938438688848), liliflwrs#4891 (660206756546478136), yairo#9699 (539123876765106178) Moderators: AceitunaOscura#7810 (693267446597025854), AuroraNoctifer#6969 (435917258913742849), Laramie#5655 (729109174079848519)

BEHAVIOR 1: ANTISEMITISM AND RACISM

A Flowers of Hellenism Staff member who is Jewish created a quiz entitled "What Jew Lizard Are You?" and encouraged other staff members to take the quiz, which they did, with no questioning from staff as a whole or the other Jewish person on the team despite the team having issues with antisemitism in the past with a former owner. The two Jewish members of staff participating is a non-issue, the issue is the rest of staff, who are not Jewish, being willing to identify themselves with anti semitic caricatures for a joke or not.

When an Indigenous member of the server made a post in the appropriate channel (see below) with regard to their issues with blood quantum, a staff member discussed discomfort with their "anti-white rhetoric" with no major retribution and another complained that it sounded "venty". The members post was this:

This message instigated a discussion where Native members brought up their issues with blood quantum and behind the scenes was met with this:

While these comments did start an argument, nothing definitive was done discipline wise to the staff members who made these comments and they were allowed to dodge accountability and remain on staff with no issue.

When a member of Godly Galaxies who is a POC displayed interest in wanting to research/understand Voodou, the owner, AuroraNoctifier who is a white woman responded by gatekeeping and policing how Black a person had to be to partake in Voodou despite admitting she knows next to nothing about the practice.

SEERSHIP, PRIESTHOOD, AND GODSPOUSAL CLAIMS While any of these titles hold general controversy within the pagan community due to difficulty verifying, scammers, and differing beliefs, the claims of these individuals are expansive, power-hungry, and break either their own rules or the rules of the communities they claim to be a part of. AuroraNoctifier, for example, claims to be a Norse Gothi of Tyr despite only working with Tyr for a short period and not greatly participating in the Norse Pagan or Heathen community. She deleted her own Flowers of Heathenry server shortly after Flowers of Hellenism was deleted and hasn't participated in the norse sections of the servers she is a part of very heavily.

The majority of the staff in these servers make priesthood, seer, and godspouse claims to one or more gods.

Even members who aren't beyond the pail when it comes to priesthood or godspousal claims ("particularly close with" is how they phrase godspousal as not to break their own rule on not discussing godspousal) will condescend to members about their interest in priesthood for research purposes or other reasons. If you aren't in the club, its unlikely you'll get verified as a priest or the like easily. The person in the below screenshot addressing a notable portion of a now-defunct offshoot server called Florum Campis as "kiddos" was only 14 or 15 when they made this message and they claim to be a priest of Zeus and have shown interest in godspousal as a minor.

There is also a generalized ego problem when it comes to the idea of the group being priests:

A current member of their priesthood chats and server discussed with us how easy it was to get into this portion of the community by lying:

I honestly can’t believe it was that simple. I am not a priest, never had a desire to be a priest, and never had a calling to be one. I am a solitary practitioner and have been so for years. It was very easy to waltz in and once I got them to respond to the ticket I opened. I asked about priesthood for a deity I worshipped briefly and one I’ve never interacted with at all. I got yes for both from their “verified diviners”, the majority of which were staff or “priests” themselves. I’ve been sitting in the community, even spouted some bullshit about what a modern priest of the pantheon I practice with would do and I haven’t been questioned, pushed, or been a concern at all. In reality, modern priests seldom exist in this pantheon and those that do have to go through an ordainment process with a group. You can’t just claim it. They’re not as well-rounded in their understanding of varying spiritual practices as they’d like to think. I ran into more issues with becoming a “verified diviner” where staff would ask me inane questions such as “what is the weather like where I am” to verify my divining abilities despite my saying that my divining skills lie with emotional matters and deity communication.

The next reblog will have screenshots and details regarding general favoritism, behind the scenes bullying, promoting creators that are known to have issues, art theft, and the general failure to uphold Xenia, which they have supposedly placed a huge emphasis on in their communities via their rules.

[memoriaedamnatio]

Amendments have been made, certain members on the staff list have been removed due to non participation in the bullying or being victims of the bullying themselves

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you are aware that you’re targeting a minor right?

Everyone in this evidence is over the age of 16, so despite them still being a minor, they should be held accountable for their actions, although the majority is over the age of 22, with some nearing their 30's. Additionally, holding someone accountable for their actions is not targeting someone, they chose to do and say these things.

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it still clearly says "claims to be jewish"

Hi there! It has been changed on the original post but we are unable to update the reblog's, both our own reblogs and others

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You should really clarify in your post that they are actively practicing Jewish people, because in putting that they "claim to be Jewish" you're stripping them of their Jewish identity and participating in antisemitism yourself. Those two staff members have every right to poke fun at antisemitic tropes.

Another anon pointed this out, we’ve updated the phrasing and clarified the issue. Thanks!

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Four Servers, One Cult

WARNING: THIS POST IS LONG AND EXCEEDS THE IMAGE LIMIT TUMBLR HAS, THEREFORE THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE LABELED SECTIONS AND A REBLOG TO KEEP THE POST ORGANIZED TL;DR the staff members of the below servers have displayed a historic and present behavior of bullying, abusing power, making absurd claims of priesthood, seership, and godspousal that can be easily debunked, anti semitic behavior, and tone policing of BIPOC when they discuss serious issues such as blood quantum. They also permit art and content thieves to post in their servers. Some screenshots will be from Flowers of Hellenism, a server that was deleted due to its original owner recognizing the cesspool the staff had made it. However the behaviors in Flowers of Hellenism have shown to be continued. Server Names and Purposes: Olympus Peaks - a Hellenism focused witchcraft and religious server Keepers of Kemeticism - a Kemetic focused witchcraft and religious server

Godly Galaxies - a 17+ interfaith server focused on godspousal, priesthood, paganism, and witchcraft Comfort Hollows - a private access priesthood server only accessible by approved members of the above servers Server IDs: Olympus Peaks - 909719311306866689 Keepers of Kemeticism - 908441420686315540 Godly Galaxies - 937865249418256456 Comfort Hollows - 907187922686595085 Users Responsible for the Communities: Olympus Peaks Owners: LiteralMochi#0635 (697152938438688848), liliflwrs#4891 (660206756546478136), olliebutanxious#8258 (625853397899411496) Moderators: jaybird#7056 (758832979794722846), AuroraNoctifer#6969 (435917258913742849), aspis#7638(315956449631141889), yairo#9699 (539123876765106178), Laramie#5655 (729109174079848519), Artiosun#9014 (731426325730164779), kafun#2376 (468272825455869952) Keepers of Kemeticism Owners: Huntress#5176 (292843897548439553), Artiosun#9014 (731426325730164779), dinosocks#1018 (848966473611345961), r/1#4534 (829133673529737246) Administrators: clowns.#3654 (750436259985489985), liliflwrs#4891 (660206756546478136), Confused Mia#2474 (580999971906650132), AuroraNoctifer#6969 (435917258913742849) Moderators: bathtub#2222 (567628126717214720), BadBitch_Rehz#9340(507617058574434316), LiteralMochi#0635 (697152938438688848), bunny#0658 (196615634526666752) Godly Galaxies Owners: AuroraNoctifer#6969 (435917258913742849), Laramie#5655 (729109174079848519) Moderators: LiteralMochi#0635 (697152938438688848), liliflwrs#4891 (660206756546478136), kafun#2376 (468272825455869952), aexists#1969 (553276015837839370) Comfort Hollows Owners: LiteralMochi#0635 (697152938438688848), liliflwrs#4891 (660206756546478136), yairo#9699 (539123876765106178) Moderators: AceitunaOscura#7810 (693267446597025854), AuroraNoctifer#6969 (435917258913742849), Laramie#5655 (729109174079848519)

BEHAVIOR 1: ANTISEMITISM AND RACISM

A Flowers of Hellenism Staff member who claims to be Jewish created a quiz entitled "What Jew Lizard Are You?" and encouraged other staff members to take the quiz, which they did, with no questioning from staff as a whole or the other Jewish person on the team despite the team having issues with antisemitism in the past with a former owner.

When an Indigenous member of the server made a post in the appropriate channel (see below) with regard to their issues with blood quantum, a staff member discussed discomfort with their "anti-white rhetoric" with no major retribution and another complained that it sounded "venty". The members post was this:

This message instigated a discussion where Native members brought up their issues with blood quantum and behind the scenes was met with this:

While these comments did start an argument, nothing definitive was done discipline wise to the staff members who made these comments and they were allowed to dodge accountability and remain on staff with no issue.

When a member of Godly Galaxies who is a POC displayed interest in wanting to research/understand Voodou, the owner, AuroraNoctifier who is a white woman responded by gatekeeping and policing how Black a person had to be to partake in Voodou despite admitting she knows next to nothing about the practice.

SEERSHIP, PRIESTHOOD, AND GODSPOUSAL CLAIMS While any of these titles hold general controversy within the pagan community due to difficulty verifying, scammers, and differing beliefs, the claims of these individuals are expansive, power-hungry, and break either their own rules or the rules of the communities they claim to be a part of. AuroraNoctifier, for example, claims to be a Norse Gothi of Tyr despite only working with Tyr for a short period and not greatly participating in the Norse Pagan or Heathen community. She deleted her own Flowers of Heathenry server shortly after Flowers of Hellenism was deleted and hasn't participated in the norse sections of the servers she is a part of very heavily.

The majority of the staff in these servers make priesthood, seer, and godspouse claims to one or more gods.

Even members who aren't beyond the pail when it comes to priesthood or godspousal claims ("particularly close with" is how they phrase godspousal as not to break their own rule on not discussing godspousal) will condescend to members about their interest in priesthood for research purposes or other reasons. If you aren't in the club, its unlikely you'll get verified as a priest or the like easily. The person in the below screenshot addressing a notable portion of a now-defunct offshoot server called Florum Campis as "kiddos" was only 14 or 15 when they made this message and they claim to be a priest of Zeus and have shown interest in godspousal as a minor.

There is also a generalized ego problem when it comes to the idea of the group being priests:

A current member of their priesthood chats and server discussed with us how easy it was to get into this portion of the community by lying:

I honestly can’t believe it was that simple. I am not a priest, never had a desire to be a priest, and never had a calling to be one. I am a solitary practitioner and have been so for years. It was very easy to waltz in and once I got them to respond to the ticket I opened. I asked about priesthood for a deity I worshipped briefly and one I’ve never interacted with at all. I got yes for both from their “verified diviners”, the majority of which were staff or “priests” themselves. I’ve been sitting in the community, even spouted some bullshit about what a modern priest of the pantheon I practice with would do and I haven’t been questioned, pushed, or been a concern at all. In reality, modern priests seldom exist in this pantheon and those that do have to go through an ordainment process with a group. You can’t just claim it. They’re not as well-rounded in their understanding of varying spiritual practices as they’d like to think. I ran into more issues with becoming a “verified diviner” where staff would ask me inane questions such as “what is the weather like where I am” to verify my divining abilities despite my saying that my divining skills lie with emotional matters and deity communication.

The next reblog will have screenshots and details regarding general favoritism, behind the scenes bullying, promoting creators that are known to have issues, art theft, and the general failure to uphold Xenia, which they have supposedly placed a huge emphasis on in their communities via their rules.

[memoriaedamnatio]

FAVORITISM AND BEHIND THE SCENES BULLYING One of the largest issues this group has is their favoritism that manifests in the manner in which they speak to different members of their servers, how people are treated when conflict or even simple disagreement arises and how members who are perceived as being on the "wrong side" of a conflict are treated. Flowers of Hellenism formerly had a channel dedicated to gossiping and making memes about members within it as well as members in Keepers of Kemeticism and Olympus Peaks. A former staff member attempted to point out that staff had made a commitment to stop gossiping only to be dismissed by LiteralMochi or Moss

As visible above, gossip channel eventually leaked over into main chats for staff where memes and comments were made. This also caused issue when Flowers of Hellenism was closing due to Olympus Peaks being placed on a pedestal as the replacement community despite several members of Flowers of Hellenism being banned from Olympus Peaks simply because the owners or staff disliked them. This would be fine if staff of both of these servers didn't present an obsession with upholding Xenia and mocked the people who were confused about their lack of access behind the scenes

This behavior continued in Olympus Peaks with a similar gossip chat being made.

After another server ended its partnership with Keepers of Kemeticism due to becoming aware of the abusive behavior committed by its staff member, one of the moderators of that server was shadowbanned from Keepers of Kemeticism despite not having anything to do with the conflict or the decision.

CONTENT THEFT This is an individual issue rather than a group-wide one, however the group is aware of this and enables it. Laramie traces art and sells commissions of traced art. They allow her to post about her commissions despite the obvious tracing being discussed behind her back.

This behavior was also performed by Moss (LiteralMochi) with resources provided by a former staff member of Flowers of Hellenism.

PROMOTION OF CREATORS WITH ISSUES Finally, Keepers of Kemeticism has a channel for promoting popular, large scale spiritual YouTubers. They formerly promoted Da’at darling and continue to promote Aliakai (https://at.tumblr.com/hellenic-reconstructionism/addressing-aliakais-response/ekxbk1c8bcrj ) Wolf the Red (https://twitter.com/dgpromedia/status/1270477374744924160?s=46&t=rLXdpEdLZjWejVFQ8m3Qbg) and Ocean Keltoi (https://at.tumblr.com/paganbigotscringecomp/ocean-shut-up/mfeiy027llbq). Members of their staff was aware of the major issue with the promotion and presence of members of white supremacist groups in The Hold and continued to promote them anyways. Posts displaying issues with these three creators have been hyperlinked, full blown posts detailing their issues will be made and linked to this post as well (updates will be made note of)

[memoriaedamnatio]

Amendments to the original post have been made, some moderators have been removed from the list as they provided evidence of not being involved and in some cases being the ones who were mocked. An amendment was also made clarifying the issue with the “what Jew lizard are you” post

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Hi, I saw your recent posts about the four pagan servers, while I'm really glad to see this info come to light (as someone who was semi-active in FoH, KoK and OP) I do want to mention that Khthonia Vega and Eq are both actively practicing Jewish people (they both talk abt their faith a lot in the servers and have never hidden it) so I think it's important to put that in the post since Khthonia was definitely not being anti-Semitic but mocking who directly affect her.

Hi, thanks for your message. While this is absolutely the case, the issue is less with the fact that Kthonia and Eq made and participated in the quiz respectively, it’s more with the rest of the staff, who are notably not Jewish who also partook in the activity with no display of issue. As someone who saw this, their immediate participation without thought to how taking a quiz that identified them as an anti semitic trope as non-Jewish people, regardless of whether or not a Jewish person made the quiz to punch up (which in a vacuum would be fine) is more concerning. Apologies if the wording in the original post was unclear

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Hieros Elaionas

Server ID: 692104943309422664

Administrators: adrexia#4444 (340063985632280578), River#4619 (268246998753214466), Agido#1061 (269640174416297984), Devan#0663 (477911195269988353), bellringer#1386 (464837895988183040), Jessica || Τζεσικα#4252 (448226640519102484)

Moderators: Aidan#2567 (157303220597686272), fel🌸🍦💫#1947 (202061942095872000 YouTuber Fel the Blythe), 🌩 Kaz 🌩#0274 (219260662679994368), MADmag94#6191 (313184326252625930)

Anti-monotheism

Multiple staff members fall into the trap of anti-monotheism. Aside from alienating members in and out of the community, anti-monotheism often leads to folkism -- more on this in a bit.

Promoting known fascist content

Staff promote fascist academic Edward P. Butler. Note that there was an extremely public, community-wide reckoning of Butler's fascist sympathies in December 2021. This month (December 2022), a staff member recommended Butler's page on the Hindu fascist website that came into question in 2021. Hieros Elaionas is promoting fascists and their work a full calendar year after his exposure.

RSS Feed has a blogger with folkish tendencies

The RSS feed features a blogger, Kaye Boesme, who has shared folkish opinions and retweeted Rhyd Wildermuth's article defending the above fascist Butler. Rhyd Wildermuth has very publicly defended fascists and publicly spewed transphobic rhetoric for at least a year. Boesme posted a screenshot from a folkist website and pinned it.

This article from Wildermuth's Substack is very explicitly and specifically about the exposure of Butler's fascism (and Wildermuth's defense of it).

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Hieros Elaionas

Server ID: 692104943309422664

Administrators: adrexia#4444 (340063985632280578), River#4619 (268246998753214466), Agido#1061 (269640174416297984), Devan#0663 (477911195269988353), bellringer#1386 (464837895988183040), Jessica || Τζεσικα#4252 (448226640519102484)

Moderators: Aidan#2567 (157303220597686272), fel🌸🍦💫#1947 (202061942095872000 YouTuber Fel the Blythe), 🌩 Kaz 🌩#0274 (219260662679994368), MADmag94#6191 (313184326252625930)

Anti-monotheism

Multiple staff members fall into the trap of anti-monotheism. Aside from alienating members in and out of the community, anti-monotheism often leads to folkism -- more on this in a bit.

Promoting known fascist content

Staff promote fascist academic Edward P. Butler. Note that there was an extremely public, community-wide reckoning of Butler's fascist sympathies in December 2021. This month (December 2022), a staff member recommended Butler's page on the Hindu fascist website that came into question in 2021. Hieros Elaionas is promoting fascists and their work a full calendar year after his exposure.

RSS Feed has a blogger with folkish tendencies

The RSS feed features a blogger, Kaye Boesme, who has shared folkish opinions and retweeted Rhyd Wildermuth's article defending the above fascist Butler. Rhyd Wildermuth has very publicly defended fascists and publicly spewed transphobic rhetoric for at least a year. Boesme posted a screenshot from a folkist website and pinned it.

This article from Wildermuth's Substack is very explicitly and specifically about the exposure of Butler's fascism (and Wildermuth's defense of it).

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For everyone who has sent an ask or DM; we will get to you as soon as we can. We received many messages overnight, some unsavory others not so much. We’re going to work through getting back to all of you ASAP

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Four Servers, One Cult

WARNING: THIS POST IS LONG AND EXCEEDS THE IMAGE LIMIT TUMBLR HAS, THEREFORE THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE LABELED SECTIONS AND A REBLOG TO KEEP THE POST ORGANIZED TL;DR the staff members of the below servers have displayed a historic and present behavior of bullying, abusing power, making absurd claims of priesthood, seership, and godspousal that can be easily debunked, anti semitic behavior, and tone policing of BIPOC when they discuss serious issues such as blood quantum. They also permit art and content thieves to post in their servers. Some screenshots will be from Flowers of Hellenism, a server that was deleted due to its original owner recognizing the cesspool the staff had made it. However the behaviors in Flowers of Hellenism have shown to be continued. Server Names and Purposes: Olympus Peaks - a Hellenism focused witchcraft and religious server Keepers of Kemeticism - a Kemetic focused witchcraft and religious server

Godly Galaxies - a 17+ interfaith server focused on godspousal, priesthood, paganism, and witchcraft Comfort Hollows - a private access priesthood server only accessible by approved members of the above servers Server IDs: Olympus Peaks - 909719311306866689 Keepers of Kemeticism - 908441420686315540 Godly Galaxies - 937865249418256456 Comfort Hollows - 907187922686595085 Users Responsible for the Communities: Olympus Peaks Owners: LiteralMochi#0635 (697152938438688848), liliflwrs#4891 (660206756546478136), olliebutanxious#8258 (625853397899411496) Moderators: jaybird#7056 (758832979794722846), AuroraNoctifer#6969 (435917258913742849), aspis#7638(315956449631141889), yairo#9699 (539123876765106178), Laramie#5655 (729109174079848519), Artiosun#9014 (731426325730164779), kafun#2376 (468272825455869952) Keepers of Kemeticism Owners: Huntress#5176 (292843897548439553), Artiosun#9014 (731426325730164779), dinosocks#1018 (848966473611345961), r/1#4534 (829133673529737246) Administrators: clowns.#3654 (750436259985489985), liliflwrs#4891 (660206756546478136), Confused Mia#2474 (580999971906650132), AuroraNoctifer#6969 (435917258913742849) Moderators: bathtub#2222 (567628126717214720), BadBitch_Rehz#9340(507617058574434316), LiteralMochi#0635 (697152938438688848), bunny#0658 (196615634526666752) Godly Galaxies Owners: AuroraNoctifer#6969 (435917258913742849), Laramie#5655 (729109174079848519) Moderators: LiteralMochi#0635 (697152938438688848), liliflwrs#4891 (660206756546478136), kafun#2376 (468272825455869952), aexists#1969 (553276015837839370) Comfort Hollows Owners: LiteralMochi#0635 (697152938438688848), liliflwrs#4891 (660206756546478136), yairo#9699 (539123876765106178) Moderators: AceitunaOscura#7810 (693267446597025854), AuroraNoctifer#6969 (435917258913742849), Laramie#5655 (729109174079848519)

BEHAVIOR 1: ANTISEMITISM AND RACISM

A Flowers of Hellenism Staff member who claims to be Jewish created a quiz entitled "What Jew Lizard Are You?" and encouraged other staff members to take the quiz, which they did, with no questioning from staff as a whole or the other Jewish person on the team despite the team having issues with antisemitism in the past with a former owner.

When an Indigenous member of the server made a post in the appropriate channel (see below) with regard to their issues with blood quantum, a staff member discussed discomfort with their "anti-white rhetoric" with no major retribution and another complained that it sounded "venty". The members post was this:

This message instigated a discussion where Native members brought up their issues with blood quantum and behind the scenes was met with this:

While these comments did start an argument, nothing definitive was done discipline wise to the staff members who made these comments and they were allowed to dodge accountability and remain on staff with no issue.

When a member of Godly Galaxies who is a POC displayed interest in wanting to research/understand Voodou, the owner, AuroraNoctifier who is a white woman responded by gatekeeping and policing how Black a person had to be to partake in Voodou despite admitting she knows next to nothing about the practice.

SEERSHIP, PRIESTHOOD, AND GODSPOUSAL CLAIMS While any of these titles hold general controversy within the pagan community due to difficulty verifying, scammers, and differing beliefs, the claims of these individuals are expansive, power-hungry, and break either their own rules or the rules of the communities they claim to be a part of. AuroraNoctifier, for example, claims to be a Norse Gothi of Tyr despite only working with Tyr for a short period and not greatly participating in the Norse Pagan or Heathen community. She deleted her own Flowers of Heathenry server shortly after Flowers of Hellenism was deleted and hasn't participated in the norse sections of the servers she is a part of very heavily.

The majority of the staff in these servers make priesthood, seer, and godspouse claims to one or more gods.

Even members who aren't beyond the pail when it comes to priesthood or godspousal claims ("particularly close with" is how they phrase godspousal as not to break their own rule on not discussing godspousal) will condescend to members about their interest in priesthood for research purposes or other reasons. If you aren't in the club, its unlikely you'll get verified as a priest or the like easily. The person in the below screenshot addressing a notable portion of a now-defunct offshoot server called Florum Campis as "kiddos" was only 14 or 15 when they made this message and they claim to be a priest of Zeus and have shown interest in godspousal as a minor.

There is also a generalized ego problem when it comes to the idea of the group being priests:

A current member of their priesthood chats and server discussed with us how easy it was to get into this portion of the community by lying:

I honestly can’t believe it was that simple. I am not a priest, never had a desire to be a priest, and never had a calling to be one. I am a solitary practitioner and have been so for years. It was very easy to waltz in and once I got them to respond to the ticket I opened. I asked about priesthood for a deity I worshipped briefly and one I’ve never interacted with at all. I got yes for both from their “verified diviners”, the majority of which were staff or “priests” themselves. I’ve been sitting in the community, even spouted some bullshit about what a modern priest of the pantheon I practice with would do and I haven’t been questioned, pushed, or been a concern at all. In reality, modern priests seldom exist in this pantheon and those that do have to go through an ordainment process with a group. You can’t just claim it. They’re not as well-rounded in their understanding of varying spiritual practices as they’d like to think. I ran into more issues with becoming a “verified diviner” where staff would ask me inane questions such as “what is the weather like where I am” to verify my divining abilities despite my saying that my divining skills lie with emotional matters and deity communication.

The next reblog will have screenshots and details regarding general favoritism, behind the scenes bullying, promoting creators that are known to have issues, art theft, and the general failure to uphold Xenia, which they have supposedly placed a huge emphasis on in their communities via their rules.

[memoriaedamnatio]

FAVORITISM AND BEHIND THE SCENES BULLYING One of the largest issues this group has is their favoritism that manifests in the manner in which they speak to different members of their servers, how people are treated when conflict or even simple disagreement arises and how members who are perceived as being on the "wrong side" of a conflict are treated. Flowers of Hellenism formerly had a channel dedicated to gossiping and making memes about members within it as well as members in Keepers of Kemeticism and Olympus Peaks. A former staff member attempted to point out that staff had made a commitment to stop gossiping only to be dismissed by LiteralMochi or Moss

As visible above, gossip channel eventually leaked over into main chats for staff where memes and comments were made. This also caused issue when Flowers of Hellenism was closing due to Olympus Peaks being placed on a pedestal as the replacement community despite several members of Flowers of Hellenism being banned from Olympus Peaks simply because the owners or staff disliked them. This would be fine if staff of both of these servers didn't present an obsession with upholding Xenia and mocked the people who were confused about their lack of access behind the scenes

This behavior continued in Olympus Peaks with a similar gossip chat being made.

After another server ended its partnership with Keepers of Kemeticism due to becoming aware of the abusive behavior committed by its staff member, one of the moderators of that server was shadowbanned from Keepers of Kemeticism despite not having anything to do with the conflict or the decision.

CONTENT THEFT This is an individual issue rather than a group-wide one, however the group is aware of this and enables it. Laramie traces art and sells commissions of traced art. They allow her to post about her commissions despite the obvious tracing being discussed behind her back.

This behavior was also performed by Moss (LiteralMochi) with resources provided by a former staff member of Flowers of Hellenism. **THIS SCREENSHOT HAS BEEN EDITED AS LITERALMOCHI WAS MISGENDERED IN THE FIRST ONE**

PROMOTION OF CREATORS WITH ISSUES Finally, Keepers of Kemeticism has a channel for promoting popular, large scale spiritual YouTubers. They formerly promoted Da’at darling and continue to promote Aliakai (https://at.tumblr.com/hellenic-reconstructionism/addressing-aliakais-response/ekxbk1c8bcrj ) Wolf the Red (https://twitter.com/dgpromedia/status/1270477374744924160?s=46&t=rLXdpEdLZjWejVFQ8m3Qbg) and Ocean Keltoi (https://at.tumblr.com/paganbigotscringecomp/ocean-shut-up/mfeiy027llbq). Members of their staff was aware of the major issue with the promotion and presence of members of white supremacist groups in The Hold and continued to promote them anyways. Posts displaying issues with these three creators have been hyperlinked, full blown posts detailing their issues will be made and linked to this post as well (updates will be made note of)

[memoriaedamnatio]

Four Servers, One Cult

WARNING: THIS POST IS LONG AND EXCEEDS THE IMAGE LIMIT TUMBLR HAS, THEREFORE THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE LABELED SECTIONS AND A REBLOG TO KEEP THE POST ORGANIZED TL;DR the staff members of the below servers have displayed a historic and present behavior of bullying, abusing power, making absurd claims of priesthood, seership, and godspousal that can be easily debunked, anti semitic behavior, and tone policing of BIPOC when they discuss serious issues such as blood quantum. They also permit art and content thieves to post in their servers. Some screenshots will be from Flowers of Hellenism, a server that was deleted due to its original owner recognizing the cesspool the staff had made it. However the behaviors in Flowers of Hellenism have shown to be continued. Server Names and Purposes: Olympus Peaks - a Hellenism focused witchcraft and religious server Keepers of Kemeticism - a Kemetic focused witchcraft and religious server

Godly Galaxies - a 17+ interfaith server focused on godspousal, priesthood, paganism, and witchcraft Comfort Hollows - a private access priesthood server only accessible by approved members of the above servers Server IDs: Olympus Peaks - 909719311306866689 Keepers of Kemeticism - 908441420686315540 Godly Galaxies - 937865249418256456 Comfort Hollows - 907187922686595085 Users Responsible for the Communities: Olympus Peaks Owners: LiteralMochi#0635 (697152938438688848), liliflwrs#4891 (660206756546478136), olliebutanxious#8258 (625853397899411496) Moderators: jaybird#7056 (758832979794722846), AuroraNoctifer#6969 (435917258913742849), yairo#9699 (539123876765106178), Laramie#5655 (729109174079848519), Artiosun#9014 (731426325730164779), kafun#2376 (468272825455869952) Keepers of Kemeticism Owners: Huntress#5176 (292843897548439553), Artiosun#9014 (731426325730164779), dinosocks#1018 (848966473611345961), r/1#4534 (829133673529737246) Administrators: clowns.#3654 (750436259985489985), Confused Mia#2474 (580999971906650132), AuroraNoctifer#6969 (435917258913742849) Moderators: BadBitch_Rehz#9340(507617058574434316) Godly Galaxies Owners: AuroraNoctifer#6969 (435917258913742849), Laramie#5655 (729109174079848519) Moderators: LiteralMochi#0635 (697152938438688848), liliflwrs#4891 (660206756546478136), kafun#2376 (468272825455869952) Comfort Hollows Owners: LiteralMochi#0635 (697152938438688848), liliflwrs#4891 (660206756546478136), yairo#9699 (539123876765106178) Moderators: AceitunaOscura#7810 (693267446597025854), AuroraNoctifer#6969 (435917258913742849), Laramie#5655 (729109174079848519)

BEHAVIOR 1: ANTISEMITISM AND RACISM

A Flowers of Hellenism Staff member who is Jewish created a quiz entitled "What Jew Lizard Are You?" and encouraged other staff members to take the quiz, which they did, with no questioning from staff as a whole or the other Jewish person on the team despite the team having issues with antisemitism in the past with a former owner. The two Jewish members of staff participating is a non-issue, the issue is the rest of staff, who are not Jewish, being willing to identify themselves with anti semitic caricatures for a joke or not.

When an Indigenous member of the server made a post in the appropriate channel (see below) with regard to their issues with blood quantum, a staff member discussed discomfort with their "anti-white rhetoric" with no major retribution and another complained that it sounded "venty". The members post was this:

This message instigated a discussion where Native members brought up their issues with blood quantum and behind the scenes was met with this:

While these comments did start an argument, nothing definitive was done discipline wise to the staff members who made these comments and they were allowed to dodge accountability and remain on staff with no issue.

When a member of Godly Galaxies who is a POC displayed interest in wanting to research/understand Voodou, the owner, AuroraNoctifier who is a white woman responded by gatekeeping and policing how Black a person had to be to partake in Voodou despite admitting she knows next to nothing about the practice.

SEERSHIP, PRIESTHOOD, AND GODSPOUSAL CLAIMS While any of these titles hold general controversy within the pagan community due to difficulty verifying, scammers, and differing beliefs, the claims of these individuals are expansive, power-hungry, and break either their own rules or the rules of the communities they claim to be a part of. AuroraNoctifier, for example, claims to be a Norse Gothi of Tyr despite only working with Tyr for a short period and not greatly participating in the Norse Pagan or Heathen community. She deleted her own Flowers of Heathenry server shortly after Flowers of Hellenism was deleted and hasn't participated in the norse sections of the servers she is a part of very heavily.

The majority of the staff in these servers make priesthood, seer, and godspouse claims to one or more gods.

Even members who aren't beyond the pail when it comes to priesthood or godspousal claims ("particularly close with" is how they phrase godspousal as not to break their own rule on not discussing godspousal) will condescend to members about their interest in priesthood for research purposes or other reasons. If you aren't in the club, its unlikely you'll get verified as a priest or the like easily. The person in the below screenshot addressing a notable portion of a now-defunct offshoot server called Florum Campis as "kiddos" was only 14 or 15 when they made this message and they claim to be a priest of Zeus and have shown interest in godspousal as a minor.

There is also a generalized ego problem when it comes to the idea of the group being priests:

A current member of their priesthood chats and server discussed with us how easy it was to get into this portion of the community by lying:

I honestly can’t believe it was that simple. I am not a priest, never had a desire to be a priest, and never had a calling to be one. I am a solitary practitioner and have been so for years. It was very easy to waltz in and once I got them to respond to the ticket I opened. I asked about priesthood for a deity I worshipped briefly and one I’ve never interacted with at all. I got yes for both from their “verified diviners”, the majority of which were staff or “priests” themselves. I’ve been sitting in the community, even spouted some bullshit about what a modern priest of the pantheon I practice with would do and I haven’t been questioned, pushed, or been a concern at all. In reality, modern priests seldom exist in this pantheon and those that do have to go through an ordainment process with a group. You can’t just claim it. They’re not as well-rounded in their understanding of varying spiritual practices as they’d like to think. I ran into more issues with becoming a “verified diviner” where staff would ask me inane questions such as “what is the weather like where I am” to verify my divining abilities despite my saying that my divining skills lie with emotional matters and deity communication.

The next reblog will have screenshots and details regarding general favoritism, behind the scenes bullying, promoting creators that are known to have issues, art theft, and the general failure to uphold Xenia, which they have supposedly placed a huge emphasis on in their communities via their rules.

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Ask & Ye May Receive

For those of you who are blocked by Primrose/Gabrielle, I apologize for not taking you into consideration. This version is for you. It is your right to have access to all of the information to share and do with as you please.

JBird & Briar Discourse

Link to Initial Post - A current example of using “-ist” words to justify blocking and harassing those who are vocally and publicly against them

Further Insight into Briar Discourse & Initial Proof of Prim’s Grooming

Admission from fore-runner that Jbird is not racist

Admission acknowledging Prim’s Grooming (and lack of overall racism from either)

Proof of Prim Actively Stirring the Pot - Note: the situation in question here is the same reason used originally to justify Briar & JBird being racist, a situation that had passed some years ago now, and that she still spreads screenshots about (the screenshots are discussed in detail in the initial post linked above).

Why “Groomer” is Applicable Here

Further Proof of Grooming

First-Hand Source Link

First Hand Sources Link

First Hand Source Link

Primrose & Cultural Appropriation Proof Post, Full Context:

Proof of Primrose’s History of Targeting & Harassing Others

Another “-ist” Example

First Hand Source (Nightshade Network) Deflection & Harassment

First Hand Source (Nightshade Network) Cont. Deflection & Harassment

Primrose Continually Spreading False Information about Topics/Practices She Claims to Have Been Researching/Practicing for “Years” (or Otherwise Showing She is Unqualified Despite Trying to “Teach” Others)

Basic Persephone Info - Link

“Mighty Dead” - Link

TechnoCoven - Ask & Response

Prim’s History of Fear-Mongering - First Hand Source

Prim’s History of Threatening to Sue - Nightshade Edition

Nightshade Legal Scandal In Order - also covers who received ownership of the server after Primrose (her then boyfriend & mod

A Very In-Depth Retelling of Prim’s Toxic Behavior - First Hand Source - I debated including this one. Details an intimate fall of the Nightshade server, Prim twisting narratives (repeatedly throughout), Prim inflicting trauma on countless individuals & groups, Prim keeping donation money, continues the timeline beyond what is included in the source listed above this one, and documents Prim starting her practice in Hoodoo in 2018 as opposed to her claim of 2015. Many other details included.

Prim’s History of Twisting the Narrative - First Hand Source

Nothing, Prim. This entire situation has taught you nothing. It repeats around you every few years, and you never ask yourself why. So this is our gift to you.

Ask and you may receive.

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