Why our love for 'Supernatural' endures after 20 years.
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Why our love for 'Supernatural' endures after 20 years.
I remember mentioning to an anon last week that Misha would probably be announcing a new cause soon and here we are. They get chosen, by voting, every quarter.
As we near the end of Q2 (how is it almost half over already?!), we’ve been thinking about how this community can combine tiny actions into
https://www.tumblr.com/spookynotwhite/818630011674378240/this-is-so-sweet-x?source=share
I love how she speaks about misha 🥹 thought I should share with you
Oh, thanks for sharing this!
This is so awesome! I love how people always say the same things about Misha - his genuineness, his true desire to do good in the world. Also, as Felicia said - puts himself on the line for what he believes in which is rare, especially with celebrities. The guy interviewing her said some really wonderful things about Misha as well. Bless.
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Mary Winchester clocking the Destiel of it all
Ah memories
That's Mary aka Samantha clocking Cockles..Some things never change.
Since I'm stuck in the train for 3 more hours, trying to get back home from PurCon10 (🫠), I'm gonna take this opportunity to write down my thoughts about the Destiel question during the JenMish panel.
Let me start by saying that Jensen is of course entitled to his own interpretation/opinion on the show and on Dean’s character. Like the rest of us. We don't have to agree.
We should also keep in mind that Jensen doesn’t have the whole picture as he (like actors do most of the time) did not watch the show and did not experience the story the way we did. Same way we didn’t experience it the way he did.
I completely believe Jensen when he says he did not play Dean this way. But no, Destiel shippers are not crazy to see their relationship in a romantic way. Both can be true. The thing is that Jensen does not get to chose how people perceived it. We all come from different places, we all experienced the story differently depending on what matters to us or resonates with us.
Jensen knows that Dean is a repressed character. He said so himself when answering the question right after this one. People having different readings about this character and his relationships is legit. And our opinions are not worth less because we’re fans. There is a huge portion of fans who saw it this way (romantic Destiel), which gives this reading of the story its credibility. Because THE SHOW is fictional, and this is how it works with fiction. There are layers, and different readings, and the response from the audience is also very telling.
There were many other people involved in the telling of this story. Some of them who actually validated the romantic reading of Dean and Cas' relationship. Even Rob and Rich are commenting on it on their podcast, saying that they finally get it now that they’re watching the show. I love Jensen, I think he’s a great actor and a good person, but he doesn’t have the final say on it. This story belongs to all of us.
There were many Destiel related things in the show that Jensen is probably not aware of, that support that narrative. Like, at the top of my mind because I saw posts about it recently:
Lucifer always presenting himself under the traits of a romantic loved one to possess someone, and that’s what he did with Dean in 15x19 while pretending to be Cas.
Or the episode Despair telling the story of 3 characters losing their romantic partner successively (Charlie losing her girlfriend, Sam loosing Eileen, Dean losing Cas).
Or Dean gifting Cas a mixtape of songs from the band his parents bonded over when they met, and the way there was a focus of the camera on their hands when he handed back the mixtape to Cas… etc.
These are only a tiny part of the narrative elements that Jensen probably didn’t catch while playing Dean, but they also matter in the reading of the whole story.
What was annoying in his answer at JenMish’s panel was not his opinion per se (because we kinda knew how he felt) but how he disregarded the fact that fans might have a different perception of the story, and that it might actually be a valid interpretation of the story and not just some fan fantasy based on nothing, which is the feeling that he gave.
If he simply had said that he did not play it this way, and didn’t feel the relationship this way, but that he respected that it might be what came across on screen for a part of the audience (and that it’s a valid reading like any other), that would be so much more mature and much better for everyone.
Like, give your opinion but don’t make it the only possible reading of the story. Because it’s fiction, and we should be free to talk about it without being shut down. Especially with a ship as popular as Destiel. I’m maybe naive, but when a story resonates that much in a romantic way with fans, that should make you pause and think about it. Even if you ultimately disagree.
My issue here was how Jensen sounded final. He gave the feeling that he put his opinion over all of ours. Insisting on the word “fiction” to make it look like less than it was, putting it in the same category as the fiction about the incest between the two brothers. Talking about brotherhood and Cas’ declaration being like a coming out to a member of his family (??). And Jensen's tone was kinda harsh when talking about the whole thing.
Jensen is acting offended every time we talk about Dean’s side of Destiel, like if we insulted him. He once said at a con (circa 2009? 2010?) that he wanted to star in a cowboy movie until he saw Brokeback Mountain and his interest just “completely tanked”. I mean 😬😬😬 Of course, it was a long time ago and it got better after that, but this is not a good look at all. And of course people are going to read a little into his defensive reaction to Destiel. What I mean is Destiel should not be treated like a dirty little secret at conventions, because it’s not, and it shouldn’t be. There is nothing shameful about that interpretation. Even if you disagree with that reading of the story.
Haters are gonna side with Jensen, because it suits them well or for whatever reason, but if it didn’t suit them, they would actually notice that his reaction to it is not a good look at all.
This is something I have a hard time getting over. I respect Jensen, like I said he’s a great actor and a great person, but the way he’s handling this topic is really disappointing. I saw some people say that we should stop asking questions about Destiel, but why censoring ourselves? It was a Jensen & Misha panel, and this question was about the relationship between their characters.
Almost 6 years after the end of the show, I’d expect better. Destiel shippers are a significant part of the fandom (127 205 fanfictions on Ao3 right now!), which means the story resonated with many of us. In a romantic sense. Jensen acting like his view of the character is the only valid one just kills the spirit and the joy we might get out of the story. Yes, he played Dean Winchester and I’m grateful. But no, it doesn’t mean he has the final say on who Dean Winchester is and what his relationship with Castiel was.
Again, I can’t stress this enough: asking about the romantic aspect of a relationship that lasted 12 years on screen (may it be romance or interpreted as something else), and that CAN BE read this way because some parts of the story support it, should not be triggering to a 48 years old actor.
Maybe he was on a bad mood that day. Maybe the question was too pushy. Maybe he was tired. Maybe he was fed up about something that happened earlier. We’ll never know. All I can say is that he had better ways of handling it in the past, despite his opinion not changing.
Ooops ... Jensen's hand on Misha's ass? Not that I blame him, uh?
Message for the J2/Wincest gloating:
"Honestly, I don't FUCKING care what Jensen thinks about it. He can deny it how much he wants, doesn't make it less true. Not to mention that Dean is bi, and Jensen isn't so straight either…"
You will NEVER change my mind.
https://inacatastrophicmind.tumblr.com/post/661485799030833152/when-do-you-think-castiel-first-realized-his
"They literally used to have at conventions, like a little list of things that people weren't allowed to talk about, and one of them was that question you just asked me."
If I’m remembering correctly, this was literally the first or second convention Misha did after they started bringing conventions back after the Covid shutdown. This was at Momento con and people lost their shit over it pretty much everything Misha said, especially his antis.
Dean knew. Dean noticed.
They will always love each other and it shows.
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Misha and Liev
I love their friendship!
Holy smokes!
https://open.substack.com/pub/mishacollins/p/my-very-good-excuse?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=4gqimw
this is so sweet
He really does shy away from attention like this when it’s for his own accolades and not to get momentum going for others join in and to help out in whatever way they can. He didn’t post anything outside of being in NYC at The Met. Didn’t even mention why he was in the city. Didn’t even post about it in the paid section of his Substack. I’m glad to be on the side of this special human.