I think anti-radqueers that claim to be accepting of recovering radqueers need to be nicer to paraphiles.
No matter how many "even if you're a paraphile, radqueers aren't the only ones who'll accept you!" posts you make, you're still effectively anti-para if you say that being anything other than ashamed of one's paraphilias is bad and that having pride flags for paraphilias is suspicious, and are thus unsafe for radqueer paraphiles looking to leave the community.
Bit confused because all these terms get extremely mixed up for me: What’s TransID and hows it sperate from RadQueer?
TransID is just any trans identity that isn't transgender. The most well known ones are trace and transabled, but there's also ones that would be considered harmless such as transhaircolor and transartstyle.
Radqueer is an entire ideology, not just one belief. Radqueer supports transid, yes, but it's also inherently pro-contact/pro-abuse as well (which I am against)
The thing is, radqueers don't seem to realize that we don't dislike them because they're "vulnerable minorities" (sure) like they claim, we dislike them because they literally defend child abuse and blackface
this userbox is so funny to me because transid users aren't the ones being told "Aww you're actually transid but the evil antis groomed you into being anti-transition uwu" like arrisomei users
You’re so obsessed, this is getting genuinely pathetic.
This whole post is giving second hand embarrassment. Log out, change the password and never log back in😭 retire from talking immediately and indefinitely
dawg it is literally one of the first things you see on your blog. I looked at a post on your Public Tumblr Blog so i'm obviously an obsessed stalker. how privileged are you
haiii i used to be einhornsocken !! (the anti that has THANKFULLY deactivated) i'm not really into discourse anymore (hence why i don't have my own blog anymore and am posting this on a headmate's blog lol) but this post made me mad so i had to say something
for context devilradz was an "undercover" anti "pretending" (for lack of better words) to be a radqueer. their intentions didn't seem to be bad, though. they weren't intentionally trying to hurt anybody as far as we know (and i'd bet no radqueer is even actually as affected by this as they claim to be)
the person in the screenshot had a fairly popular anti blog at one point (burningradqueers) and then right before new years deactivated and made a rq blog. they were never actually an anti though. i will call them O because they seem to throw tantrums if you even dare mention their name
afaik the anti behind devilradz themselves didn't have anything to do with people finding out about O's radqueer blog. i don't remember them being involved in whatever was going down at all. personally disliking antis in general doesn't make it okay to be an ass to one specific anti that didn't even do anything wrong
i am the anti they are talking about when they say they were named publicly by an anti. you wanna know what actually happened? shortly after O had deactivated their anti blog, i got an anon saying that O was actually radqueer despite saying they were still an anti. i didn't believe this at first, and then whaddaya know? i get sent O's radqueer blog.
this is where me "publicly naming" O comes in. i wanted to let the other antis know that O was, infact, a radqueer, and that the anon wasn't lying. so i made a post along the lines of "burningradqueers is actually a radqueer, anon wasn't lying" but did not post the name of their radqueer blog anywhere.
at this time, i was still using O's deadname (unknowingly) and so i get told "hey this is O's current name please don't deadname them" by an anon. i guess because i started referring to O as their current name, that caused other antis to be able to find O's radqueer blog easier. not once did i tell ANYONE their rq blog's name. i literally just stopped using their deadname. i'm such a horrible person for using O's name /sar
"antis were fine with that" haha. multiple antis were saying things like "don't jump to conclusions!!" about O despite knowing that O was/is dating a pro c transn@z1 (censored so this actually shows up in tags). if anything, the other antis were overly kind to O.
"you only deserve privacy if you're an anti /sar" lol. there have been several anti blocklists/report lists made by radqueers. love it when radqueers say our community sucks and then do the exact same things they're criticizing us for /s
crosstagging because you guys (radqueers) will accept any and all information you're spoonfed as long as it comes from another radqueer
Shut up you don’t know what you’re talking about. DevilRadz main anti radqueer account was up and actively posting anti radqueer stuff the entire time and after being exposed. They lied and manipulated people, gaslit and spoke very negatively about radqueer people who exposed them.
Two of the people involved in exposing DevilRadz have said themselves that he has sent targeted hate to radqueers. Like I said even now he is still active and being anti radqueer.
Being anti radqueer is inherently harmful to us regardless of how you spin it.
You’re such an ignorant dick, you make that very apparent in your shitpost.
actually i don't really care? you have no proof of them manipulating or gaslighting people. if you count making a bait account as manipulative then most "ex"-antis are abusive because the majority of them were never actually antis
being anti-radqueer literally isn't harmful to anyone unless you're going into people's inboxes and suibaiting them and the like. radqueer is inherently pro-abuse so it is ACTUALLY inherently harmful
me omw to somehow harm an entire community by saying child abuse is not actually okay:
Btw majority of radqueer accounts are openly and blatantly anti abuse. The stereotype that we are inherently harmful came from antis, which is another way antis harm our community, by spreading misinformation and lies about us.
There have even been radqueers to make report/blocklists of pro abuse people
Radqueer was coined to be neu-c (literally just pro-c). I can find the coining screenshot if you don't believe me. Anti-c radqueers that aren't just anti-c for themselves aren't radqueers according to the radqueer Coining post. Also majority of radqueers are pro-c
I have literally only ever seen antis make blocklists for pro-abuse rqs stop making shit up
I misread your first sentence at first, neutral is pro dumbass it means neutral. It was recoined or reclaimed at one point because a lot of radqueers don’t support the OG coiner. Post the screenshot though if it makes you feel better.
YOU YOURSELF said you don’t even have your own tumblr and your not radqueer, and you’ve proved multiple times you know little to nothing about the radqueer community so you’re the only one making shit up. Speaking of made up shit, show me a criminal case against a radqueer?
There also isn’t a lot of pro abuse accounts on here. So yeah there is only a handful of posts, and not every server has the same blacklist.
Pro contact doesn’t mean pro abuse 😭 you’re heavily insinuating that all contact is non consensual and harmful. And yes forcing your contact stance on anyone else is inherently NOT radqueer. Radqueer isn’t inherently pro or anti anything, it defeats the definition of both “radical” and “queer”, individuals decide their own stances. Majority of radqueers are anti c or pro complex c, and anti abuse. You’re mad at your own misinformation and assumptions, not anything anyone has actually done.
i do not have my own tumblr. i did a few months ago, however. i was one of the most prominent anti-radqueer blogs. i have argued with radqueers. i have seen how you guys behave. and i've come to the conclusion that 50% of you are minors that were told they wouldn't be accepted anywhere else, and 50% transphobic racists who want to fuck kids because you've been rejected by everyone your own age. i know what a radqueer is. i know what your community believes. and what your community believes is inherently abusive.
Pro-contact is pro-abuse. You cannot have sex with a child without the child being damaged in some way, be it mentally or physically. Same with most animals. Even consensual sex between a child and an adult/older child will harm the child (I know this from experience!) Children cannot consent. Animals cannot consent. Pro-consent and pro-contact is an oxymoron because children and animals Cannot consent
I'm not "assuming". The vast majority of radqueers are either pro/neutral contact and pro-contact is pro-abuse.
also i literally never said a radqueer has gone to jail. i think that would be virtually impossible because most radqueers are children and there's only a couple thousand or so radqueers in the world anyway
You’re so dumb and insufferable I’ve literally lost all hope so I’m not replying to much you after this. Fuck your bullshit prominent account because like I said you know jack shit about the community and everything you say reinforces that because it’s all stereotyping and ideology that came from antis, none of this information you got from actual radqueers. “I’ve seen the way you guys behave and come to the conclusion that 🤓” LMFAOOO no you didn’t, you just proved that because most of what you just said about us was dead wrong. You were apart of the anti community not radqueers, you’re never going to convince an actual radqueer person your knowledge is real or based. I am radqueer, there nothing you can teach or convince me about being radqueer.
Pro contact isn’t inherently pro abuse, if you’re so educated on our community why didn’t you read the contact stance coins to understand them? Pro contact literally just means pro contact and is applied either individually to different IDs or used to describe someone’s contact stance as a whole.
Not very radqueer is a map, it’s a paraphilia so you aren’t required to claim the radqueer term if you are a map? It’s not even a radqueer made term my love it was around much longer than us; radqueer is simply inclusive of paraphilia havers if users have them. You also yourself admitted that most radqueers are minors themselves(probably because most adults can’t afford to be doxxed or don’t want to argue with dumb teens like you so they use other platforms), but point me to the law breaking child predators. The law also allows minors of a certain age to consent to older teens, if you disagree with that then write your state officials about changing it for your state but don’t take that out on us. I’m sorry you had a harmful experience, you still shouldn’t project that onto us. As you stated no radqueer has gone to jail(I said it because of that but of course your dumbass didn’t connect the dots) because none of have broken the law.
Pro consent is not an oxymoron because it literally cannot apply to young children and animals!!
Show me the transphobes and racist tho. Thought crime doesn’t exist, a lot of us adults go to extreme means to suppress thoughts/urges or get therapy for help managing them.
Your issue is very clear. You keep assuming pro contact and pro consent apply to animals and children, I don’t know who told you that but they lied about.
Pro contact does not apply to animals or children who cannot make informed consent because as you pointed out they cannot consent.
Trying to apply the pro contact label onto illegal or harmful dynamics will immediately get you called out.
Again you’re just regurgitating misinformation and ideology spread by other antis not actual radqueers,
I find it hard to believe you actually are an adult, considering you have to resort to insults when you realize you're losing the argument
...Where are you getting your information from? Anti-contact virtually always means anti-contact for paraphilias that would be harmful to act upon (eg pedophillia and zoophilia). Pro-contact has ALWAYS included contact for pedophilia and zoophilia. How the hell do you know so little about your own community?
You don't have to be in a community to know that said community is harmful. I'm not racist, does that mean I can't be anti-racist??
Most radqueers!!! Support minor/adult relationships!!! Or interact with people who do!!! You have never been in the tags of your own community and it's very fucking obvious
Calling anti-radqueer an ideology is actually hilarious because it's literally just a single belief, not a set of beliefs like radqueer
You proved you’re a kid because you’re focused on wining, I’m just correcting your ignorance and making fun of you in the process. I’m a legal adult, with a full time job, my own car AND ITS PAID OFF 😮💨🙏 Adults curse and insult people, welcome to reality.
They don’t and have never meant that because they are not radqueer made terms nor do they only apply to radqueer community or paraphiliac communities. Comp c and other more detailed contact stances were coined by us.
You’re not racist and can be anti racist, but like most white liberals if you do not listen to the community you’re involving yourself in the issue of you’re going to be repeatedly called out and your “activism” insulted because you don’t actually know what you’re talking about. So many white activists are called out for microsggressions and speaking over POC because they THINK they full understand what racism is. You think you full understand our community, our terms, our stances but you just admitted you’re not in our community? How could you possibly know if whenever a radqueer tries to tell you the truth regarding your information you speak over them with bullshit easily proven wrong.
Again show me the law breaking accounts. You said you’ve seen them and I’ve asked for proof more than once.
It is ideology because you have brought up multiple arguments about multiple things and multiple labels. So it’s not a singular belief. You have multiple beliefs about our community, you yourself listed them off.
Oh my god You make me rethink giving radqueers basic respect
Pro-contact IS a fucking paraphile contact stance!!! Pro-contact means your support contact for paraphilias!!! I thought this would be obvious but you don't know the history of your Own Fucking Community
I never fucking said any radqueer broke the law!!!! Not ONCE!!! You don't have to break the law for something to be morally wrong!!!
I listen to radqueers!!! I have argued with multiple radqueers!!! And I am STILL anti-radqueer!!! I have talked to radqueers, I have observed their interactions with each other!!! And you are all racist ableist transphobic child abusers hiding under the label of "queer"!!!
I am anti-radqueer!!!! That is a singular belief that includes being anti-contact and (sometimes) anti-transid because being pro-transid and pro-contact is the entire basis of radqueer!!! Anti-radqueer literally cannot be an ideology because every single anti-radqueer believes vastly different shit!!! The only thing most anti-radqueers have in common is that they're anti-radqueer!!!
Your first sentence is the complete fucking opposite of what I said, I feel like your just skimming through and reacting to what I say instead of reading and thinking.
No matter how many times I explain things to you, you keep saying the same bullshit I just explained wasn’t true. Saying something over and over won’t make it the truth especially when your bullshit was debunked before I ever interacted with you, this has been explained countless times outside of me and you debating, this has probably been explained to you before but your head is to far up ass and your ears too full of your own shit to hear anything else. You are by definition a fucking bigot.
All you have said has been incorrect, made up, and lies. The worse part is your ignorance runs so deep you refuse to listen to anything. You have never had a civil conversation and tried to actually understand anything about the radqueer community, you just yell your assumptions and lies over and over and over again I’m assuming until we just can’t stand talking to you anymore. I refuse to keep going in circles in with you just because you refuse to read and listen.
Again you said you’ve observed us, being a child abuser is a crime and multiple times I’ve asked you to show me proof of any of us breaking the law, I asked you for proof about your bullshit definitions, I’ve asked you for just proof and information to back up your bullshit and you can’t present anything. You’re only source is ‘I’ve seen you guys’ like shut up, you’re full of shit. You’re literally on your headmates account invalidating them as well, you’re a literal walking piece of shit, they need to lock your ass in the vault for a minute.
If a racist tells me "racism isn't bad" I'm not gonna fucking believe them. I'm going to observe the behaviors of racists and decide that they are indeed pieces of shit. If a radqueer tells me "Radqueer isn't (defining belief of radqueer) I'm not going to believe them, I'm going to look at what radqueers believe. And 90% of radqueers are pro-c blackface supporters.
Tell me where I lied? Highlight every single part of my posts where I lied.
You are genuinely stupid as fuck. My 9 year old sibling has more reading comprehension than you. Do you want me to go on every single radqueer blog and screenshot where they say they're pro-c? That wouldn't help anyways, because you're so goddamn stupid that you don't even know the DEFINITION of pro-c.
I'm not 'invalidating my headmate'. I don't care that the headmate in question is transid + the headmate in question knows I'm anti-transid and is fine with that because he's tolerant of beliefs other than his own (unlike you)
1. Why do you keep bringing up racism as an example? It’s just weird and lowkey irritating but whatever. Your so called observations are proven wrong by the simplest of actions, I’ve said that to you multiple times, you haven’t even seen nor interacted with 90% of the community.
2. My reading comprehension is fine, you’re just mad I’m not agreeing with you. But English is my 3rd or so language yet I’ve been correcting your misuse of words lmao. YOU don’t know the definition of pro c to the point radqueer blogs have already started making fun of the fact that you and most other antis don’t know it.
3. I’m tolerant of other opinions, YOU aren’t. I haven’t even commented negatively on you being anti radqueer, I’ve just been pointing out your misinformation. I don’t care that you don’t like radqueers but why would I sit a let someone just lie? I said prove it to prove that you can’t, you cannot prove any of the shit you’re saying because it’s imaginary. You said a portion of our community are child abusers, when and where’s the proof? You’re accusing imaginary people of crimes that weren’t committed simply because you don’t understand our community or what the contact stances mean. I even asked you to pull up your proof for your “definition” of pro contact (you can’t because there literally isn’t one and there not being one is the reason people have been coining more specific contact stance terms. Again pro c is not a term unique to radqueers. MAP ZOO AND NECRO are not radqueer coined terms either. That’s why I tried to bring up paras but thing at a time for the slow poke.)
4. You being anti is invalidating especially when you’re speaking so negatively about transIDs, your head mate just sounds like a pussy nobody in my system would ever go for that shit which is way I said it in the first place. Letting your head mate post anti and harmful misinformation about your community, on your account, insane. You are by definition invalidating them rather they choose to cure you out about it or not. Them tolerating you does not make your actions less invalidating, it just means he chooses not to deal with you, probably because he sees the way you act and doesn’t want to put up with it.
Let use your racism example. As a POC if and when I see anyone spreading what I know to be false, racist ect I’m going to call it out. If a white person sat in my face and told me they had the right to spread racist nonsense because they “observed” the black community, we’d have a problem. No white person would be able to educate me on my community based off their “observations”, or be able to tell me what is or isn’t racism, no white person would have the grounds to tell me anything about the black community. You know why? Because they’ve never been black, never lived a day as a black person in the black community.
I'm bringing up racism as an example because ~70% of radqueers support blackface and racefishing.
Pro-contact has ALWAYS meant supporting contact for things like pedophilia and zoophilia. Anti-contact has NEVER meant being anti-c for every single paraphilia. If you ask literally ANY pro-c radqueer what they mean by being pro-c they will tell you they don't think minor/adult and human/non-human relationships are inherently abusive.
You literally have said multiple times that being anti-radqueer is inherently bigoted (false). You have, in fact, insulted me for being anti-radqueer.
Just 2 minutes in the radqueer tags shows me at least 3 pro-c radqueers. That's an incredibly large amount for such a small community.
Again, NOBODY means they're anti-contact for every single paraphilia when they call themselves anti-c. Pro-contact means pro-contact for EVERY paraphilia and it always has. I never said pro-c was a term made specifically for radqueers, either. I hate pro-c non-radqueers just as much as I hate pro-c radqueers.
You know the different between POC and radqueers? POC are actually oppressed and being against them is actually harmful.
Also, you don't know SHIT about my system or my relationship with my headmates. I'm not just "tolerated" by the headmate that owns this blog. We are friends because I don't give a shit that he's pro-transid and he doesn't give a shit that I'm anti-transid.. Stop making assumptions about people you have never met in your life.
Proof for a literally anything you said. We’re waiting yet again.
Also I never said that, I said YOURE a bigot. I’ve interacted with many anti radqueers who aren’t bigots, they’re often misinformed or just uncomfortable for their own reasons.
You keep making up these fake ass percentages and you ignored most of what I said to (excepted since you’re you)
there was another poll asking radqueers if they support skinpainting and at least half the votes were yes however i can't find the screenshot
"Expected since you're you" dawg you don't even know who i am you've literally only ever interacted with me to insult me and one of my headmates shut your bitch ass up
Your proof was the radqueer community supporting a transID……you’re so sad. No shit we support trace people.
I genuinely don’t believe the majority of radqueers support blackface, it’s been talked about before but also not every trace individual/not even all radqueers are white/pale skinned.
I didn’t over react lmfao, you insulted your head mate and I said something. And more importantly, I haven’t called you anything that wasn’t true 💋
"Trace transitioning" includes skin painting and racefishing you dumb fuck. "Trace transitioning" literally means you support blackface and asianfishing and the such.
I never insulted anyone but you and your dumbass community please learn reading comprehension🙏
No it doesn’t 😭. Those are ways someone may try to go about transitioning but that’s not something that anyone is just encouraging people to do blackface, like genuinely it wouldn’t even work in this day and age. You can’t just decide we all support blackface because of your own personal assumptions and opinions, that’s not us that’s you and your projection.
Like I said not every trace person is white/pale skinned, not everyone even physically transitions or wants too because race is a lot more than color.
You’re assuming all trace people are white people transitioning to black or Asian, you’re assuming every trace person wants/needs to change their skin tone, and you’re assuming that there’s a skin tone that matches to each race and that’s simply not true. I don’t need to physically transition, my cisRace already has common features with my transrace, the only transitioning of been doing is language learning and cultural changes in my home. There are a lot of transblack folk who have no intention of changing their physical appearance.
You’re doing all that about reading comprehension but I constantly have to repeat and re explain because your slow ass can’t keep up. You just try to call me dumb or come for my comprehension because I’m not agreeing with you and I’m calling what you say bullshit. But English isn’t my first or second language lmao but if you’re pressed or think I’m managing so bad, start teaching ESL.
this userbox is so funny to me because transid users aren't the ones being told "Aww you're actually transid but the evil antis groomed you into being anti-transition uwu" like arrisomei users
haiii i used to be einhornsocken !! (the anti that has THANKFULLY deactivated) i'm not really into discourse anymore (hence why i don't have my own blog anymore and am posting this on a headmate's blog lol) but this post made me mad so i had to say something
for context devilradz was an "undercover" anti "pretending" (for lack of better words) to be a radqueer. their intentions didn't seem to be bad, though. they weren't intentionally trying to hurt anybody as far as we know (and i'd bet no radqueer is even actually as affected by this as they claim to be)
the person in the screenshot had a fairly popular anti blog at one point (burningradqueers) and then right before new years deactivated and made a rq blog. they were never actually an anti though. i will call them O because they seem to throw tantrums if you even dare mention their name
afaik the anti behind devilradz themselves didn't have anything to do with people finding out about O's radqueer blog. i don't remember them being involved in whatever was going down at all. personally disliking antis in general doesn't make it okay to be an ass to one specific anti that didn't even do anything wrong
i am the anti they are talking about when they say they were named publicly by an anti. you wanna know what actually happened? shortly after O had deactivated their anti blog, i got an anon saying that O was actually radqueer despite saying they were still an anti. i didn't believe this at first, and then whaddaya know? i get sent O's radqueer blog.
this is where me "publicly naming" O comes in. i wanted to let the other antis know that O was, infact, a radqueer, and that the anon wasn't lying. so i made a post along the lines of "burningradqueers is actually a radqueer, anon wasn't lying" but did not post the name of their radqueer blog anywhere.
at this time, i was still using O's deadname (unknowingly) and so i get told "hey this is O's current name please don't deadname them" by an anon. i guess because i started referring to O as their current name, that caused other antis to be able to find O's radqueer blog easier. not once did i tell ANYONE their rq blog's name. i literally just stopped using their deadname. i'm such a horrible person for using O's name /sar
"antis were fine with that" haha. multiple antis were saying things like "don't jump to conclusions!!" about O despite knowing that O was/is dating a pro c transn@z1 (censored so this actually shows up in tags). if anything, the other antis were overly kind to O.
"you only deserve privacy if you're an anti /sar" lol. there have been several anti blocklists/report lists made by radqueers. love it when radqueers say our community sucks and then do the exact same things they're criticizing us for /s
crosstagging because you guys (radqueers) will accept any and all information you're spoonfed as long as it comes from another radqueer
Shut up you don’t know what you’re talking about. DevilRadz main anti radqueer account was up and actively posting anti radqueer stuff the entire time and after being exposed. They lied and manipulated people, gaslit and spoke very negatively about radqueer people who exposed them.
Two of the people involved in exposing DevilRadz have said themselves that he has sent targeted hate to radqueers. Like I said even now he is still active and being anti radqueer.
Being anti radqueer is inherently harmful to us regardless of how you spin it.
You’re such an ignorant dick, you make that very apparent in your shitpost.
actually i don't really care? you have no proof of them manipulating or gaslighting people. if you count making a bait account as manipulative then most "ex"-antis are abusive because the majority of them were never actually antis
being anti-radqueer literally isn't harmful to anyone unless you're going into people's inboxes and suibaiting them and the like. radqueer is inherently pro-abuse so it is ACTUALLY inherently harmful
me omw to somehow harm an entire community by saying child abuse is not actually okay:
Btw majority of radqueer accounts are openly and blatantly anti abuse. The stereotype that we are inherently harmful came from antis, which is another way antis harm our community, by spreading misinformation and lies about us.
There have even been radqueers to make report/blocklists of pro abuse people
Radqueer was coined to be neu-c (literally just pro-c). I can find the coining screenshot if you don't believe me. Anti-c radqueers that aren't just anti-c for themselves aren't radqueers according to the radqueer Coining post. Also majority of radqueers are pro-c
I have literally only ever seen antis make blocklists for pro-abuse rqs stop making shit up
I misread your first sentence at first, neutral is pro dumbass it means neutral. It was recoined or reclaimed at one point because a lot of radqueers don’t support the OG coiner. Post the screenshot though if it makes you feel better.
YOU YOURSELF said you don’t even have your own tumblr and your not radqueer, and you’ve proved multiple times you know little to nothing about the radqueer community so you’re the only one making shit up. Speaking of made up shit, show me a criminal case against a radqueer?
There also isn’t a lot of pro abuse accounts on here. So yeah there is only a handful of posts, and not every server has the same blacklist.
Pro contact doesn’t mean pro abuse 😭 you’re heavily insinuating that all contact is non consensual and harmful. And yes forcing your contact stance on anyone else is inherently NOT radqueer. Radqueer isn’t inherently pro or anti anything, it defeats the definition of both “radical” and “queer”, individuals decide their own stances. Majority of radqueers are anti c or pro complex c, and anti abuse. You’re mad at your own misinformation and assumptions, not anything anyone has actually done.
i do not have my own tumblr. i did a few months ago, however. i was one of the most prominent anti-radqueer blogs. i have argued with radqueers. i have seen how you guys behave. and i've come to the conclusion that 50% of you are minors that were told they wouldn't be accepted anywhere else, and 50% transphobic racists who want to fuck kids because you've been rejected by everyone your own age. i know what a radqueer is. i know what your community believes. and what your community believes is inherently abusive.
Pro-contact is pro-abuse. You cannot have sex with a child without the child being damaged in some way, be it mentally or physically. Same with most animals. Even consensual sex between a child and an adult/older child will harm the child (I know this from experience!) Children cannot consent. Animals cannot consent. Pro-consent and pro-contact is an oxymoron because children and animals Cannot consent
I'm not "assuming". The vast majority of radqueers are either pro/neutral contact and pro-contact is pro-abuse.
also i literally never said a radqueer has gone to jail. i think that would be virtually impossible because most radqueers are children and there's only a couple thousand or so radqueers in the world anyway
You’re so dumb and insufferable I’ve literally lost all hope so I’m not replying to much you after this. Fuck your bullshit prominent account because like I said you know jack shit about the community and everything you say reinforces that because it’s all stereotyping and ideology that came from antis, none of this information you got from actual radqueers. “I’ve seen the way you guys behave and come to the conclusion that 🤓” LMFAOOO no you didn’t, you just proved that because most of what you just said about us was dead wrong. You were apart of the anti community not radqueers, you’re never going to convince an actual radqueer person your knowledge is real or based. I am radqueer, there nothing you can teach or convince me about being radqueer.
Pro contact isn’t inherently pro abuse, if you’re so educated on our community why didn’t you read the contact stance coins to understand them? Pro contact literally just means pro contact and is applied either individually to different IDs or used to describe someone’s contact stance as a whole.
Not very radqueer is a map, it’s a paraphilia so you aren’t required to claim the radqueer term if you are a map? It’s not even a radqueer made term my love it was around much longer than us; radqueer is simply inclusive of paraphilia havers if users have them. You also yourself admitted that most radqueers are minors themselves(probably because most adults can’t afford to be doxxed or don’t want to argue with dumb teens like you so they use other platforms), but point me to the law breaking child predators. The law also allows minors of a certain age to consent to older teens, if you disagree with that then write your state officials about changing it for your state but don’t take that out on us. I’m sorry you had a harmful experience, you still shouldn’t project that onto us. As you stated no radqueer has gone to jail(I said it because of that but of course your dumbass didn’t connect the dots) because none of have broken the law.
Pro consent is not an oxymoron because it literally cannot apply to young children and animals!!
Show me the transphobes and racist tho. Thought crime doesn’t exist, a lot of us adults go to extreme means to suppress thoughts/urges or get therapy for help managing them.
Your issue is very clear. You keep assuming pro contact and pro consent apply to animals and children, I don’t know who told you that but they lied about.
Pro contact does not apply to animals or children who cannot make informed consent because as you pointed out they cannot consent.
Trying to apply the pro contact label onto illegal or harmful dynamics will immediately get you called out.
Again you’re just regurgitating misinformation and ideology spread by other antis not actual radqueers,
I find it hard to believe you actually are an adult, considering you have to resort to insults when you realize you're losing the argument
...Where are you getting your information from? Anti-contact virtually always means anti-contact for paraphilias that would be harmful to act upon (eg pedophillia and zoophilia). Pro-contact has ALWAYS included contact for pedophilia and zoophilia. How the hell do you know so little about your own community?
You don't have to be in a community to know that said community is harmful. I'm not racist, does that mean I can't be anti-racist??
Most radqueers!!! Support minor/adult relationships!!! Or interact with people who do!!! You have never been in the tags of your own community and it's very fucking obvious
Calling anti-radqueer an ideology is actually hilarious because it's literally just a single belief, not a set of beliefs like radqueer
You proved you’re a kid because you’re focused on wining, I’m just correcting your ignorance and making fun of you in the process. I’m a legal adult, with a full time job, my own car AND ITS PAID OFF 😮💨🙏 Adults curse and insult people, welcome to reality.
They don’t and have never meant that because they are not radqueer made terms nor do they only apply to radqueer community or paraphiliac communities. Comp c and other more detailed contact stances were coined by us.
You’re not racist and can be anti racist, but like most white liberals if you do not listen to the community you’re involving yourself in the issue of you’re going to be repeatedly called out and your “activism” insulted because you don’t actually know what you’re talking about. So many white activists are called out for microsggressions and speaking over POC because they THINK they full understand what racism is. You think you full understand our community, our terms, our stances but you just admitted you’re not in our community? How could you possibly know if whenever a radqueer tries to tell you the truth regarding your information you speak over them with bullshit easily proven wrong.
Again show me the law breaking accounts. You said you’ve seen them and I’ve asked for proof more than once.
It is ideology because you have brought up multiple arguments about multiple things and multiple labels. So it’s not a singular belief. You have multiple beliefs about our community, you yourself listed them off.
Oh my god You make me rethink giving radqueers basic respect
Pro-contact IS a fucking paraphile contact stance!!! Pro-contact means your support contact for paraphilias!!! I thought this would be obvious but you don't know the history of your Own Fucking Community
I never fucking said any radqueer broke the law!!!! Not ONCE!!! You don't have to break the law for something to be morally wrong!!!
I listen to radqueers!!! I have argued with multiple radqueers!!! And I am STILL anti-radqueer!!! I have talked to radqueers, I have observed their interactions with each other!!! And you are all racist ableist transphobic child abusers hiding under the label of "queer"!!!
I am anti-radqueer!!!! That is a singular belief that includes being anti-contact and (sometimes) anti-transid because being pro-transid and pro-contact is the entire basis of radqueer!!! Anti-radqueer literally cannot be an ideology because every single anti-radqueer believes vastly different shit!!! The only thing most anti-radqueers have in common is that they're anti-radqueer!!!
Your first sentence is the complete fucking opposite of what I said, I feel like your just skimming through and reacting to what I say instead of reading and thinking.
No matter how many times I explain things to you, you keep saying the same bullshit I just explained wasn’t true. Saying something over and over won’t make it the truth especially when your bullshit was debunked before I ever interacted with you, this has been explained countless times outside of me and you debating, this has probably been explained to you before but your head is to far up ass and your ears too full of your own shit to hear anything else. You are by definition a fucking bigot.
All you have said has been incorrect, made up, and lies. The worse part is your ignorance runs so deep you refuse to listen to anything. You have never had a civil conversation and tried to actually understand anything about the radqueer community, you just yell your assumptions and lies over and over and over again I’m assuming until we just can’t stand talking to you anymore. I refuse to keep going in circles in with you just because you refuse to read and listen.
Again you said you’ve observed us, being a child abuser is a crime and multiple times I’ve asked you to show me proof of any of us breaking the law, I asked you for proof about your bullshit definitions, I’ve asked you for just proof and information to back up your bullshit and you can’t present anything. You’re only source is ‘I’ve seen you guys’ like shut up, you’re full of shit. You’re literally on your headmates account invalidating them as well, you’re a literal walking piece of shit, they need to lock your ass in the vault for a minute.
If a racist tells me "racism isn't bad" I'm not gonna fucking believe them. I'm going to observe the behaviors of racists and decide that they are indeed pieces of shit. If a radqueer tells me "Radqueer isn't (defining belief of radqueer) I'm not going to believe them, I'm going to look at what radqueers believe. And 90% of radqueers are pro-c blackface supporters.
Tell me where I lied? Highlight every single part of my posts where I lied.
You are genuinely stupid as fuck. My 9 year old sibling has more reading comprehension than you. Do you want me to go on every single radqueer blog and screenshot where they say they're pro-c? That wouldn't help anyways, because you're so goddamn stupid that you don't even know the DEFINITION of pro-c.
I'm not 'invalidating my headmate'. I don't care that the headmate in question is transid + the headmate in question knows I'm anti-transid and is fine with that because he's tolerant of beliefs other than his own (unlike you)
1. Why do you keep bringing up racism as an example? It’s just weird and lowkey irritating but whatever. Your so called observations are proven wrong by the simplest of actions, I’ve said that to you multiple times, you haven’t even seen nor interacted with 90% of the community.
2. My reading comprehension is fine, you’re just mad I’m not agreeing with you. But English is my 3rd or so language yet I’ve been correcting your misuse of words lmao. YOU don’t know the definition of pro c to the point radqueer blogs have already started making fun of the fact that you and most other antis don’t know it.
3. I’m tolerant of other opinions, YOU aren’t. I haven’t even commented negatively on you being anti radqueer, I’ve just been pointing out your misinformation. I don’t care that you don’t like radqueers but why would I sit a let someone just lie? I said prove it to prove that you can’t, you cannot prove any of the shit you’re saying because it’s imaginary. You said a portion of our community are child abusers, when and where’s the proof? You’re accusing imaginary people of crimes that weren’t committed simply because you don’t understand our community or what the contact stances mean. I even asked you to pull up your proof for your “definition” of pro contact (you can’t because there literally isn’t one and there not being one is the reason people have been coining more specific contact stance terms. Again pro c is not a term unique to radqueers. MAP ZOO AND NECRO are not radqueer coined terms either. That’s why I tried to bring up paras but thing at a time for the slow poke.)
4. You being anti is invalidating especially when you’re speaking so negatively about transIDs, your head mate just sounds like a pussy nobody in my system would ever go for that shit which is way I said it in the first place. Letting your head mate post anti and harmful misinformation about your community, on your account, insane. You are by definition invalidating them rather they choose to cure you out about it or not. Them tolerating you does not make your actions less invalidating, it just means he chooses not to deal with you, probably because he sees the way you act and doesn’t want to put up with it.
Let use your racism example. As a POC if and when I see anyone spreading what I know to be false, racist ect I’m going to call it out. If a white person sat in my face and told me they had the right to spread racist nonsense because they “observed” the black community, we’d have a problem. No white person would be able to educate me on my community based off their “observations”, or be able to tell me what is or isn’t racism, no white person would have the grounds to tell me anything about the black community. You know why? Because they’ve never been black, never lived a day as a black person in the black community.
I'm bringing up racism as an example because ~70% of radqueers support blackface and racefishing.
Pro-contact has ALWAYS meant supporting contact for things like pedophilia and zoophilia. Anti-contact has NEVER meant being anti-c for every single paraphilia. If you ask literally ANY pro-c radqueer what they mean by being pro-c they will tell you they don't think minor/adult and human/non-human relationships are inherently abusive.
You literally have said multiple times that being anti-radqueer is inherently bigoted (false). You have, in fact, insulted me for being anti-radqueer.
Just 2 minutes in the radqueer tags shows me at least 3 pro-c radqueers. That's an incredibly large amount for such a small community.
Again, NOBODY means they're anti-contact for every single paraphilia when they call themselves anti-c. Pro-contact means pro-contact for EVERY paraphilia and it always has. I never said pro-c was a term made specifically for radqueers, either. I hate pro-c non-radqueers just as much as I hate pro-c radqueers.
You know the different between POC and radqueers? POC are actually oppressed and being against them is actually harmful.
Also, you don't know SHIT about my system or my relationship with my headmates. I'm not just "tolerated" by the headmate that owns this blog. We are friends because I don't give a shit that he's pro-transid and he doesn't give a shit that I'm anti-transid.. Stop making assumptions about people you have never met in your life.
Proof for a literally anything you said. We’re waiting yet again.
Also I never said that, I said YOURE a bigot. I’ve interacted with many anti radqueers who aren’t bigots, they’re often misinformed or just uncomfortable for their own reasons.
You keep making up these fake ass percentages and you ignored most of what I said to (excepted since you’re you)
there was another poll asking radqueers if they support skinpainting and at least half the votes were yes however i can't find the screenshot
"Expected since you're you" dawg you don't even know who i am you've literally only ever interacted with me to insult me and one of my headmates shut your bitch ass up
Your proof was the radqueer community supporting a transID……you’re so sad. No shit we support trace people.
I genuinely don’t believe the majority of radqueers support blackface, it’s been talked about before but also not every trace individual/not even all radqueers are white/pale skinned.
I didn’t over react lmfao, you insulted your head mate and I said something. And more importantly, I haven’t called you anything that wasn’t true 💋
"Trace transitioning" includes skin painting and racefishing you dumb fuck. "Trace transitioning" literally means you support blackface and asianfishing and the such.
I never insulted anyone but you and your dumbass community please learn reading comprehension🙏
I'm not gonna send you death threats or whatever but I am gonna let you know that this is incredibly annoying. If you don't want antis tagging anti shit with radqueer tags, don't tag your shit with anti tags.
The fact that radqueers made an "anti blocklist" is honestly hilarious, considering they've been saying "But!!! Public blocklists encourage harassment!!!" for ages
If you’re an anti or neutral person who genuinely wants to learn about radqueers, I love you. It’s perfectly normal to be afraid of something you don’t understand and my DMs are always open to anyone with questions, even if I don’t have the exact answer.
haiii i used to be einhornsocken !! (the anti that has THANKFULLY deactivated) i'm not really into discourse anymore (hence why i don't have my own blog anymore and am posting this on a headmate's blog lol) but this post made me mad so i had to say something
for context devilradz was an "undercover" anti "pretending" (for lack of better words) to be a radqueer. their intentions didn't seem to be bad, though. they weren't intentionally trying to hurt anybody as far as we know (and i'd bet no radqueer is even actually as affected by this as they claim to be)
the person in the screenshot had a fairly popular anti blog at one point (burningradqueers) and then right before new years deactivated and made a rq blog. they were never actually an anti though. i will call them O because they seem to throw tantrums if you even dare mention their name
afaik the anti behind devilradz themselves didn't have anything to do with people finding out about O's radqueer blog. i don't remember them being involved in whatever was going down at all. personally disliking antis in general doesn't make it okay to be an ass to one specific anti that didn't even do anything wrong
i am the anti they are talking about when they say they were named publicly by an anti. you wanna know what actually happened? shortly after O had deactivated their anti blog, i got an anon saying that O was actually radqueer despite saying they were still an anti. i didn't believe this at first, and then whaddaya know? i get sent O's radqueer blog.
this is where me "publicly naming" O comes in. i wanted to let the other antis know that O was, infact, a radqueer, and that the anon wasn't lying. so i made a post along the lines of "burningradqueers is actually a radqueer, anon wasn't lying" but did not post the name of their radqueer blog anywhere.
at this time, i was still using O's deadname (unknowingly) and so i get told "hey this is O's current name please don't deadname them" by an anon. i guess because i started referring to O as their current name, that caused other antis to be able to find O's radqueer blog easier. not once did i tell ANYONE their rq blog's name. i literally just stopped using their deadname. i'm such a horrible person for using O's name /sar
"antis were fine with that" haha. multiple antis were saying things like "don't jump to conclusions!!" about O despite knowing that O was/is dating a pro c transn@z1 (censored so this actually shows up in tags). if anything, the other antis were overly kind to O.
"you only deserve privacy if you're an anti /sar" lol. there have been several anti blocklists/report lists made by radqueers. love it when radqueers say our community sucks and then do the exact same things they're criticizing us for /s
crosstagging because you guys (radqueers) will accept any and all information you're spoonfed as long as it comes from another radqueer
Shut up you don’t know what you’re talking about. DevilRadz main anti radqueer account was up and actively posting anti radqueer stuff the entire time and after being exposed. They lied and manipulated people, gaslit and spoke very negatively about radqueer people who exposed them.
Two of the people involved in exposing DevilRadz have said themselves that he has sent targeted hate to radqueers. Like I said even now he is still active and being anti radqueer.
Being anti radqueer is inherently harmful to us regardless of how you spin it.
You’re such an ignorant dick, you make that very apparent in your shitpost.
actually i don't really care? you have no proof of them manipulating or gaslighting people. if you count making a bait account as manipulative then most "ex"-antis are abusive because the majority of them were never actually antis
being anti-radqueer literally isn't harmful to anyone unless you're going into people's inboxes and suibaiting them and the like. radqueer is inherently pro-abuse so it is ACTUALLY inherently harmful
me omw to somehow harm an entire community by saying child abuse is not actually okay:
Btw majority of radqueer accounts are openly and blatantly anti abuse. The stereotype that we are inherently harmful came from antis, which is another way antis harm our community, by spreading misinformation and lies about us.
There have even been radqueers to make report/blocklists of pro abuse people
Radqueer was coined to be neu-c (literally just pro-c). I can find the coining screenshot if you don't believe me. Anti-c radqueers that aren't just anti-c for themselves aren't radqueers according to the radqueer Coining post. Also majority of radqueers are pro-c
I have literally only ever seen antis make blocklists for pro-abuse rqs stop making shit up
I misread your first sentence at first, neutral is pro dumbass it means neutral. It was recoined or reclaimed at one point because a lot of radqueers don’t support the OG coiner. Post the screenshot though if it makes you feel better.
YOU YOURSELF said you don’t even have your own tumblr and your not radqueer, and you’ve proved multiple times you know little to nothing about the radqueer community so you’re the only one making shit up. Speaking of made up shit, show me a criminal case against a radqueer?
There also isn’t a lot of pro abuse accounts on here. So yeah there is only a handful of posts, and not every server has the same blacklist.
Pro contact doesn’t mean pro abuse 😭 you’re heavily insinuating that all contact is non consensual and harmful. And yes forcing your contact stance on anyone else is inherently NOT radqueer. Radqueer isn’t inherently pro or anti anything, it defeats the definition of both “radical” and “queer”, individuals decide their own stances. Majority of radqueers are anti c or pro complex c, and anti abuse. You’re mad at your own misinformation and assumptions, not anything anyone has actually done.
i do not have my own tumblr. i did a few months ago, however. i was one of the most prominent anti-radqueer blogs. i have argued with radqueers. i have seen how you guys behave. and i've come to the conclusion that 50% of you are minors that were told they wouldn't be accepted anywhere else, and 50% transphobic racists who want to fuck kids because you've been rejected by everyone your own age. i know what a radqueer is. i know what your community believes. and what your community believes is inherently abusive.
Pro-contact is pro-abuse. You cannot have sex with a child without the child being damaged in some way, be it mentally or physically. Same with most animals. Even consensual sex between a child and an adult/older child will harm the child (I know this from experience!) Children cannot consent. Animals cannot consent. Pro-consent and pro-contact is an oxymoron because children and animals Cannot consent
I'm not "assuming". The vast majority of radqueers are either pro/neutral contact and pro-contact is pro-abuse.
also i literally never said a radqueer has gone to jail. i think that would be virtually impossible because most radqueers are children and there's only a couple thousand or so radqueers in the world anyway
You’re so dumb and insufferable I’ve literally lost all hope so I’m not replying to much you after this. Fuck your bullshit prominent account because like I said you know jack shit about the community and everything you say reinforces that because it’s all stereotyping and ideology that came from antis, none of this information you got from actual radqueers. “I’ve seen the way you guys behave and come to the conclusion that 🤓” LMFAOOO no you didn’t, you just proved that because most of what you just said about us was dead wrong. You were apart of the anti community not radqueers, you’re never going to convince an actual radqueer person your knowledge is real or based. I am radqueer, there nothing you can teach or convince me about being radqueer.
Pro contact isn’t inherently pro abuse, if you’re so educated on our community why didn’t you read the contact stance coins to understand them? Pro contact literally just means pro contact and is applied either individually to different IDs or used to describe someone’s contact stance as a whole.
Not very radqueer is a map, it’s a paraphilia so you aren’t required to claim the radqueer term if you are a map? It’s not even a radqueer made term my love it was around much longer than us; radqueer is simply inclusive of paraphilia havers if users have them. You also yourself admitted that most radqueers are minors themselves(probably because most adults can’t afford to be doxxed or don’t want to argue with dumb teens like you so they use other platforms), but point me to the law breaking child predators. The law also allows minors of a certain age to consent to older teens, if you disagree with that then write your state officials about changing it for your state but don’t take that out on us. I’m sorry you had a harmful experience, you still shouldn’t project that onto us. As you stated no radqueer has gone to jail(I said it because of that but of course your dumbass didn’t connect the dots) because none of have broken the law.
Pro consent is not an oxymoron because it literally cannot apply to young children and animals!!
Show me the transphobes and racist tho. Thought crime doesn’t exist, a lot of us adults go to extreme means to suppress thoughts/urges or get therapy for help managing them.
Your issue is very clear. You keep assuming pro contact and pro consent apply to animals and children, I don’t know who told you that but they lied about.
Pro contact does not apply to animals or children who cannot make informed consent because as you pointed out they cannot consent.
Trying to apply the pro contact label onto illegal or harmful dynamics will immediately get you called out.
Again you’re just regurgitating misinformation and ideology spread by other antis not actual radqueers,
I find it hard to believe you actually are an adult, considering you have to resort to insults when you realize you're losing the argument
...Where are you getting your information from? Anti-contact virtually always means anti-contact for paraphilias that would be harmful to act upon (eg pedophillia and zoophilia). Pro-contact has ALWAYS included contact for pedophilia and zoophilia. How the hell do you know so little about your own community?
You don't have to be in a community to know that said community is harmful. I'm not racist, does that mean I can't be anti-racist??
Most radqueers!!! Support minor/adult relationships!!! Or interact with people who do!!! You have never been in the tags of your own community and it's very fucking obvious
Calling anti-radqueer an ideology is actually hilarious because it's literally just a single belief, not a set of beliefs like radqueer
You proved you’re a kid because you’re focused on wining, I’m just correcting your ignorance and making fun of you in the process. I’m a legal adult, with a full time job, my own car AND ITS PAID OFF 😮💨🙏 Adults curse and insult people, welcome to reality.
They don’t and have never meant that because they are not radqueer made terms nor do they only apply to radqueer community or paraphiliac communities. Comp c and other more detailed contact stances were coined by us.
You’re not racist and can be anti racist, but like most white liberals if you do not listen to the community you’re involving yourself in the issue of you’re going to be repeatedly called out and your “activism” insulted because you don’t actually know what you’re talking about. So many white activists are called out for microsggressions and speaking over POC because they THINK they full understand what racism is. You think you full understand our community, our terms, our stances but you just admitted you’re not in our community? How could you possibly know if whenever a radqueer tries to tell you the truth regarding your information you speak over them with bullshit easily proven wrong.
Again show me the law breaking accounts. You said you’ve seen them and I’ve asked for proof more than once.
It is ideology because you have brought up multiple arguments about multiple things and multiple labels. So it’s not a singular belief. You have multiple beliefs about our community, you yourself listed them off.
Oh my god You make me rethink giving radqueers basic respect
Pro-contact IS a fucking paraphile contact stance!!! Pro-contact means your support contact for paraphilias!!! I thought this would be obvious but you don't know the history of your Own Fucking Community
I never fucking said any radqueer broke the law!!!! Not ONCE!!! You don't have to break the law for something to be morally wrong!!!
I listen to radqueers!!! I have argued with multiple radqueers!!! And I am STILL anti-radqueer!!! I have talked to radqueers, I have observed their interactions with each other!!! And you are all racist ableist transphobic child abusers hiding under the label of "queer"!!!
I am anti-radqueer!!!! That is a singular belief that includes being anti-contact and (sometimes) anti-transid because being pro-transid and pro-contact is the entire basis of radqueer!!! Anti-radqueer literally cannot be an ideology because every single anti-radqueer believes vastly different shit!!! The only thing most anti-radqueers have in common is that they're anti-radqueer!!!
Your first sentence is the complete fucking opposite of what I said, I feel like your just skimming through and reacting to what I say instead of reading and thinking.
No matter how many times I explain things to you, you keep saying the same bullshit I just explained wasn’t true. Saying something over and over won’t make it the truth especially when your bullshit was debunked before I ever interacted with you, this has been explained countless times outside of me and you debating, this has probably been explained to you before but your head is to far up ass and your ears too full of your own shit to hear anything else. You are by definition a fucking bigot.
All you have said has been incorrect, made up, and lies. The worse part is your ignorance runs so deep you refuse to listen to anything. You have never had a civil conversation and tried to actually understand anything about the radqueer community, you just yell your assumptions and lies over and over and over again I’m assuming until we just can’t stand talking to you anymore. I refuse to keep going in circles in with you just because you refuse to read and listen.
Again you said you’ve observed us, being a child abuser is a crime and multiple times I’ve asked you to show me proof of any of us breaking the law, I asked you for proof about your bullshit definitions, I’ve asked you for just proof and information to back up your bullshit and you can’t present anything. You’re only source is ‘I’ve seen you guys’ like shut up, you’re full of shit. You’re literally on your headmates account invalidating them as well, you’re a literal walking piece of shit, they need to lock your ass in the vault for a minute.
If a racist tells me "racism isn't bad" I'm not gonna fucking believe them. I'm going to observe the behaviors of racists and decide that they are indeed pieces of shit. If a radqueer tells me "Radqueer isn't (defining belief of radqueer) I'm not going to believe them, I'm going to look at what radqueers believe. And 90% of radqueers are pro-c blackface supporters.
Tell me where I lied? Highlight every single part of my posts where I lied.
You are genuinely stupid as fuck. My 9 year old sibling has more reading comprehension than you. Do you want me to go on every single radqueer blog and screenshot where they say they're pro-c? That wouldn't help anyways, because you're so goddamn stupid that you don't even know the DEFINITION of pro-c.
I'm not 'invalidating my headmate'. I don't care that the headmate in question is transid + the headmate in question knows I'm anti-transid and is fine with that because he's tolerant of beliefs other than his own (unlike you)
1. Why do you keep bringing up racism as an example? It’s just weird and lowkey irritating but whatever. Your so called observations are proven wrong by the simplest of actions, I’ve said that to you multiple times, you haven’t even seen nor interacted with 90% of the community.
2. My reading comprehension is fine, you’re just mad I’m not agreeing with you. But English is my 3rd or so language yet I’ve been correcting your misuse of words lmao. YOU don’t know the definition of pro c to the point radqueer blogs have already started making fun of the fact that you and most other antis don’t know it.
3. I’m tolerant of other opinions, YOU aren’t. I haven’t even commented negatively on you being anti radqueer, I’ve just been pointing out your misinformation. I don’t care that you don’t like radqueers but why would I sit a let someone just lie? I said prove it to prove that you can’t, you cannot prove any of the shit you’re saying because it’s imaginary. You said a portion of our community are child abusers, when and where’s the proof? You’re accusing imaginary people of crimes that weren’t committed simply because you don’t understand our community or what the contact stances mean. I even asked you to pull up your proof for your “definition” of pro contact (you can’t because there literally isn’t one and there not being one is the reason people have been coining more specific contact stance terms. Again pro c is not a term unique to radqueers. MAP ZOO AND NECRO are not radqueer coined terms either. That’s why I tried to bring up paras but thing at a time for the slow poke.)
4. You being anti is invalidating especially when you’re speaking so negatively about transIDs, your head mate just sounds like a pussy nobody in my system would ever go for that shit which is way I said it in the first place. Letting your head mate post anti and harmful misinformation about your community, on your account, insane. You are by definition invalidating them rather they choose to cure you out about it or not. Them tolerating you does not make your actions less invalidating, it just means he chooses not to deal with you, probably because he sees the way you act and doesn’t want to put up with it.
Let use your racism example. As a POC if and when I see anyone spreading what I know to be false, racist ect I’m going to call it out. If a white person sat in my face and told me they had the right to spread racist nonsense because they “observed” the black community, we’d have a problem. No white person would be able to educate me on my community based off their “observations”, or be able to tell me what is or isn’t racism, no white person would have the grounds to tell me anything about the black community. You know why? Because they’ve never been black, never lived a day as a black person in the black community.
I'm bringing up racism as an example because ~70% of radqueers support blackface and racefishing.
Pro-contact has ALWAYS meant supporting contact for things like pedophilia and zoophilia. Anti-contact has NEVER meant being anti-c for every single paraphilia. If you ask literally ANY pro-c radqueer what they mean by being pro-c they will tell you they don't think minor/adult and human/non-human relationships are inherently abusive.
You literally have said multiple times that being anti-radqueer is inherently bigoted (false). You have, in fact, insulted me for being anti-radqueer.
Just 2 minutes in the radqueer tags shows me at least 3 pro-c radqueers. That's an incredibly large amount for such a small community.
Again, NOBODY means they're anti-contact for every single paraphilia when they call themselves anti-c. Pro-contact means pro-contact for EVERY paraphilia and it always has. I never said pro-c was a term made specifically for radqueers, either. I hate pro-c non-radqueers just as much as I hate pro-c radqueers.
You know the different between POC and radqueers? POC are actually oppressed and being against them is actually harmful.
Also, you don't know SHIT about my system or my relationship with my headmates. I'm not just "tolerated" by the headmate that owns this blog. We are friends because I don't give a shit that he's pro-transid and he doesn't give a shit that I'm anti-transid.. Stop making assumptions about people you have never met in your life.
Proof for a literally anything you said. We’re waiting yet again.
Also I never said that, I said YOURE a bigot. I’ve interacted with many anti radqueers who aren’t bigots, they’re often misinformed or just uncomfortable for their own reasons.
You keep making up these fake ass percentages and you ignored most of what I said to (excepted since you’re you)
there was another poll asking radqueers if they support skinpainting and at least half the votes were yes however i can't find the screenshot
"Expected since you're you" dawg you don't even know who i am you've literally only ever interacted with me to insult me and one of my headmates shut your bitch ass up
haiii i used to be einhornsocken !! (the anti that has THANKFULLY deactivated) i'm not really into discourse anymore (hence why i don't have my own blog anymore and am posting this on a headmate's blog lol) but this post made me mad so i had to say something
for context devilradz was an "undercover" anti "pretending" (for lack of better words) to be a radqueer. their intentions didn't seem to be bad, though. they weren't intentionally trying to hurt anybody as far as we know (and i'd bet no radqueer is even actually as affected by this as they claim to be)
the person in the screenshot had a fairly popular anti blog at one point (burningradqueers) and then right before new years deactivated and made a rq blog. they were never actually an anti though. i will call them O because they seem to throw tantrums if you even dare mention their name
afaik the anti behind devilradz themselves didn't have anything to do with people finding out about O's radqueer blog. i don't remember them being involved in whatever was going down at all. personally disliking antis in general doesn't make it okay to be an ass to one specific anti that didn't even do anything wrong
i am the anti they are talking about when they say they were named publicly by an anti. you wanna know what actually happened? shortly after O had deactivated their anti blog, i got an anon saying that O was actually radqueer despite saying they were still an anti. i didn't believe this at first, and then whaddaya know? i get sent O's radqueer blog.
this is where me "publicly naming" O comes in. i wanted to let the other antis know that O was, infact, a radqueer, and that the anon wasn't lying. so i made a post along the lines of "burningradqueers is actually a radqueer, anon wasn't lying" but did not post the name of their radqueer blog anywhere.
at this time, i was still using O's deadname (unknowingly) and so i get told "hey this is O's current name please don't deadname them" by an anon. i guess because i started referring to O as their current name, that caused other antis to be able to find O's radqueer blog easier. not once did i tell ANYONE their rq blog's name. i literally just stopped using their deadname. i'm such a horrible person for using O's name /sar
"antis were fine with that" haha. multiple antis were saying things like "don't jump to conclusions!!" about O despite knowing that O was/is dating a pro c transn@z1 (censored so this actually shows up in tags). if anything, the other antis were overly kind to O.
"you only deserve privacy if you're an anti /sar" lol. there have been several anti blocklists/report lists made by radqueers. love it when radqueers say our community sucks and then do the exact same things they're criticizing us for /s
crosstagging because you guys (radqueers) will accept any and all information you're spoonfed as long as it comes from another radqueer
Shut up you don’t know what you’re talking about. DevilRadz main anti radqueer account was up and actively posting anti radqueer stuff the entire time and after being exposed. They lied and manipulated people, gaslit and spoke very negatively about radqueer people who exposed them.
Two of the people involved in exposing DevilRadz have said themselves that he has sent targeted hate to radqueers. Like I said even now he is still active and being anti radqueer.
Being anti radqueer is inherently harmful to us regardless of how you spin it.
You’re such an ignorant dick, you make that very apparent in your shitpost.
actually i don't really care? you have no proof of them manipulating or gaslighting people. if you count making a bait account as manipulative then most "ex"-antis are abusive because the majority of them were never actually antis
being anti-radqueer literally isn't harmful to anyone unless you're going into people's inboxes and suibaiting them and the like. radqueer is inherently pro-abuse so it is ACTUALLY inherently harmful
me omw to somehow harm an entire community by saying child abuse is not actually okay:
Btw majority of radqueer accounts are openly and blatantly anti abuse. The stereotype that we are inherently harmful came from antis, which is another way antis harm our community, by spreading misinformation and lies about us.
There have even been radqueers to make report/blocklists of pro abuse people
Radqueer was coined to be neu-c (literally just pro-c). I can find the coining screenshot if you don't believe me. Anti-c radqueers that aren't just anti-c for themselves aren't radqueers according to the radqueer Coining post. Also majority of radqueers are pro-c
I have literally only ever seen antis make blocklists for pro-abuse rqs stop making shit up
I misread your first sentence at first, neutral is pro dumbass it means neutral. It was recoined or reclaimed at one point because a lot of radqueers don’t support the OG coiner. Post the screenshot though if it makes you feel better.
YOU YOURSELF said you don’t even have your own tumblr and your not radqueer, and you’ve proved multiple times you know little to nothing about the radqueer community so you’re the only one making shit up. Speaking of made up shit, show me a criminal case against a radqueer?
There also isn’t a lot of pro abuse accounts on here. So yeah there is only a handful of posts, and not every server has the same blacklist.
Pro contact doesn’t mean pro abuse 😭 you’re heavily insinuating that all contact is non consensual and harmful. And yes forcing your contact stance on anyone else is inherently NOT radqueer. Radqueer isn’t inherently pro or anti anything, it defeats the definition of both “radical” and “queer”, individuals decide their own stances. Majority of radqueers are anti c or pro complex c, and anti abuse. You’re mad at your own misinformation and assumptions, not anything anyone has actually done.
i do not have my own tumblr. i did a few months ago, however. i was one of the most prominent anti-radqueer blogs. i have argued with radqueers. i have seen how you guys behave. and i've come to the conclusion that 50% of you are minors that were told they wouldn't be accepted anywhere else, and 50% transphobic racists who want to fuck kids because you've been rejected by everyone your own age. i know what a radqueer is. i know what your community believes. and what your community believes is inherently abusive.
Pro-contact is pro-abuse. You cannot have sex with a child without the child being damaged in some way, be it mentally or physically. Same with most animals. Even consensual sex between a child and an adult/older child will harm the child (I know this from experience!) Children cannot consent. Animals cannot consent. Pro-consent and pro-contact is an oxymoron because children and animals Cannot consent
I'm not "assuming". The vast majority of radqueers are either pro/neutral contact and pro-contact is pro-abuse.
also i literally never said a radqueer has gone to jail. i think that would be virtually impossible because most radqueers are children and there's only a couple thousand or so radqueers in the world anyway
You’re so dumb and insufferable I’ve literally lost all hope so I’m not replying to much you after this. Fuck your bullshit prominent account because like I said you know jack shit about the community and everything you say reinforces that because it’s all stereotyping and ideology that came from antis, none of this information you got from actual radqueers. “I’ve seen the way you guys behave and come to the conclusion that 🤓” LMFAOOO no you didn’t, you just proved that because most of what you just said about us was dead wrong. You were apart of the anti community not radqueers, you’re never going to convince an actual radqueer person your knowledge is real or based. I am radqueer, there nothing you can teach or convince me about being radqueer.
Pro contact isn’t inherently pro abuse, if you’re so educated on our community why didn’t you read the contact stance coins to understand them? Pro contact literally just means pro contact and is applied either individually to different IDs or used to describe someone’s contact stance as a whole.
Not very radqueer is a map, it’s a paraphilia so you aren’t required to claim the radqueer term if you are a map? It’s not even a radqueer made term my love it was around much longer than us; radqueer is simply inclusive of paraphilia havers if users have them. You also yourself admitted that most radqueers are minors themselves(probably because most adults can’t afford to be doxxed or don’t want to argue with dumb teens like you so they use other platforms), but point me to the law breaking child predators. The law also allows minors of a certain age to consent to older teens, if you disagree with that then write your state officials about changing it for your state but don’t take that out on us. I’m sorry you had a harmful experience, you still shouldn’t project that onto us. As you stated no radqueer has gone to jail(I said it because of that but of course your dumbass didn’t connect the dots) because none of have broken the law.
Pro consent is not an oxymoron because it literally cannot apply to young children and animals!!
Show me the transphobes and racist tho. Thought crime doesn’t exist, a lot of us adults go to extreme means to suppress thoughts/urges or get therapy for help managing them.
Your issue is very clear. You keep assuming pro contact and pro consent apply to animals and children, I don’t know who told you that but they lied about.
Pro contact does not apply to animals or children who cannot make informed consent because as you pointed out they cannot consent.
Trying to apply the pro contact label onto illegal or harmful dynamics will immediately get you called out.
Again you’re just regurgitating misinformation and ideology spread by other antis not actual radqueers,
I find it hard to believe you actually are an adult, considering you have to resort to insults when you realize you're losing the argument
...Where are you getting your information from? Anti-contact virtually always means anti-contact for paraphilias that would be harmful to act upon (eg pedophillia and zoophilia). Pro-contact has ALWAYS included contact for pedophilia and zoophilia. How the hell do you know so little about your own community?
You don't have to be in a community to know that said community is harmful. I'm not racist, does that mean I can't be anti-racist??
Most radqueers!!! Support minor/adult relationships!!! Or interact with people who do!!! You have never been in the tags of your own community and it's very fucking obvious
Calling anti-radqueer an ideology is actually hilarious because it's literally just a single belief, not a set of beliefs like radqueer
You proved you’re a kid because you’re focused on wining, I’m just correcting your ignorance and making fun of you in the process. I’m a legal adult, with a full time job, my own car AND ITS PAID OFF 😮💨🙏 Adults curse and insult people, welcome to reality.
They don’t and have never meant that because they are not radqueer made terms nor do they only apply to radqueer community or paraphiliac communities. Comp c and other more detailed contact stances were coined by us.
You’re not racist and can be anti racist, but like most white liberals if you do not listen to the community you’re involving yourself in the issue of you’re going to be repeatedly called out and your “activism” insulted because you don’t actually know what you’re talking about. So many white activists are called out for microsggressions and speaking over POC because they THINK they full understand what racism is. You think you full understand our community, our terms, our stances but you just admitted you’re not in our community? How could you possibly know if whenever a radqueer tries to tell you the truth regarding your information you speak over them with bullshit easily proven wrong.
Again show me the law breaking accounts. You said you’ve seen them and I’ve asked for proof more than once.
It is ideology because you have brought up multiple arguments about multiple things and multiple labels. So it’s not a singular belief. You have multiple beliefs about our community, you yourself listed them off.
Oh my god You make me rethink giving radqueers basic respect
Pro-contact IS a fucking paraphile contact stance!!! Pro-contact means your support contact for paraphilias!!! I thought this would be obvious but you don't know the history of your Own Fucking Community
I never fucking said any radqueer broke the law!!!! Not ONCE!!! You don't have to break the law for something to be morally wrong!!!
I listen to radqueers!!! I have argued with multiple radqueers!!! And I am STILL anti-radqueer!!! I have talked to radqueers, I have observed their interactions with each other!!! And you are all racist ableist transphobic child abusers hiding under the label of "queer"!!!
I am anti-radqueer!!!! That is a singular belief that includes being anti-contact and (sometimes) anti-transid because being pro-transid and pro-contact is the entire basis of radqueer!!! Anti-radqueer literally cannot be an ideology because every single anti-radqueer believes vastly different shit!!! The only thing most anti-radqueers have in common is that they're anti-radqueer!!!
Your first sentence is the complete fucking opposite of what I said, I feel like your just skimming through and reacting to what I say instead of reading and thinking.
No matter how many times I explain things to you, you keep saying the same bullshit I just explained wasn’t true. Saying something over and over won’t make it the truth especially when your bullshit was debunked before I ever interacted with you, this has been explained countless times outside of me and you debating, this has probably been explained to you before but your head is to far up ass and your ears too full of your own shit to hear anything else. You are by definition a fucking bigot.
All you have said has been incorrect, made up, and lies. The worse part is your ignorance runs so deep you refuse to listen to anything. You have never had a civil conversation and tried to actually understand anything about the radqueer community, you just yell your assumptions and lies over and over and over again I’m assuming until we just can’t stand talking to you anymore. I refuse to keep going in circles in with you just because you refuse to read and listen.
Again you said you’ve observed us, being a child abuser is a crime and multiple times I’ve asked you to show me proof of any of us breaking the law, I asked you for proof about your bullshit definitions, I’ve asked you for just proof and information to back up your bullshit and you can’t present anything. You’re only source is ‘I’ve seen you guys’ like shut up, you’re full of shit. You’re literally on your headmates account invalidating them as well, you’re a literal walking piece of shit, they need to lock your ass in the vault for a minute.
If a racist tells me "racism isn't bad" I'm not gonna fucking believe them. I'm going to observe the behaviors of racists and decide that they are indeed pieces of shit. If a radqueer tells me "Radqueer isn't (defining belief of radqueer) I'm not going to believe them, I'm going to look at what radqueers believe. And 90% of radqueers are pro-c blackface supporters.
Tell me where I lied? Highlight every single part of my posts where I lied.
You are genuinely stupid as fuck. My 9 year old sibling has more reading comprehension than you. Do you want me to go on every single radqueer blog and screenshot where they say they're pro-c? That wouldn't help anyways, because you're so goddamn stupid that you don't even know the DEFINITION of pro-c.
I'm not 'invalidating my headmate'. I don't care that the headmate in question is transid + the headmate in question knows I'm anti-transid and is fine with that because he's tolerant of beliefs other than his own (unlike you)
1. Why do you keep bringing up racism as an example? It’s just weird and lowkey irritating but whatever. Your so called observations are proven wrong by the simplest of actions, I’ve said that to you multiple times, you haven’t even seen nor interacted with 90% of the community.
2. My reading comprehension is fine, you’re just mad I’m not agreeing with you. But English is my 3rd or so language yet I’ve been correcting your misuse of words lmao. YOU don’t know the definition of pro c to the point radqueer blogs have already started making fun of the fact that you and most other antis don’t know it.
3. I’m tolerant of other opinions, YOU aren’t. I haven’t even commented negatively on you being anti radqueer, I’ve just been pointing out your misinformation. I don’t care that you don’t like radqueers but why would I sit a let someone just lie? I said prove it to prove that you can’t, you cannot prove any of the shit you’re saying because it’s imaginary. You said a portion of our community are child abusers, when and where’s the proof? You’re accusing imaginary people of crimes that weren’t committed simply because you don’t understand our community or what the contact stances mean. I even asked you to pull up your proof for your “definition” of pro contact (you can’t because there literally isn’t one and there not being one is the reason people have been coining more specific contact stance terms. Again pro c is not a term unique to radqueers. MAP ZOO AND NECRO are not radqueer coined terms either. That’s why I tried to bring up paras but thing at a time for the slow poke.)
4. You being anti is invalidating especially when you’re speaking so negatively about transIDs, your head mate just sounds like a pussy nobody in my system would ever go for that shit which is way I said it in the first place. Letting your head mate post anti and harmful misinformation about your community, on your account, insane. You are by definition invalidating them rather they choose to cure you out about it or not. Them tolerating you does not make your actions less invalidating, it just means he chooses not to deal with you, probably because he sees the way you act and doesn’t want to put up with it.
Let use your racism example. As a POC if and when I see anyone spreading what I know to be false, racist ect I’m going to call it out. If a white person sat in my face and told me they had the right to spread racist nonsense because they “observed” the black community, we’d have a problem. No white person would be able to educate me on my community based off their “observations”, or be able to tell me what is or isn’t racism, no white person would have the grounds to tell me anything about the black community. You know why? Because they’ve never been black, never lived a day as a black person in the black community.
I'm bringing up racism as an example because ~70% of radqueers support blackface and racefishing.
Pro-contact has ALWAYS meant supporting contact for things like pedophilia and zoophilia. Anti-contact has NEVER meant being anti-c for every single paraphilia. If you ask literally ANY pro-c radqueer what they mean by being pro-c they will tell you they don't think minor/adult and human/non-human relationships are inherently abusive.
You literally have said multiple times that being anti-radqueer is inherently bigoted (false). You have, in fact, insulted me for being anti-radqueer.
Just 2 minutes in the radqueer tags shows me at least 3 pro-c radqueers. That's an incredibly large amount for such a small community.
Again, NOBODY means they're anti-contact for every single paraphilia when they call themselves anti-c. Pro-contact means pro-contact for EVERY paraphilia and it always has. I never said pro-c was a term made specifically for radqueers, either. I hate pro-c non-radqueers just as much as I hate pro-c radqueers.
You know the different between POC and radqueers? POC are actually oppressed and being against them is actually harmful.
Also, you don't know SHIT about my system or my relationship with my headmates. I'm not just "tolerated" by the headmate that owns this blog. We are friends because I don't give a shit that he's pro-transid and he doesn't give a shit that I'm anti-transid.. Stop making assumptions about people you have never met in your life.
haiii i used to be einhornsocken !! (the anti that has THANKFULLY deactivated) i'm not really into discourse anymore (hence why i don't have my own blog anymore and am posting this on a headmate's blog lol) but this post made me mad so i had to say something
for context devilradz was an "undercover" anti "pretending" (for lack of better words) to be a radqueer. their intentions didn't seem to be bad, though. they weren't intentionally trying to hurt anybody as far as we know (and i'd bet no radqueer is even actually as affected by this as they claim to be)
the person in the screenshot had a fairly popular anti blog at one point (burningradqueers) and then right before new years deactivated and made a rq blog. they were never actually an anti though. i will call them O because they seem to throw tantrums if you even dare mention their name
afaik the anti behind devilradz themselves didn't have anything to do with people finding out about O's radqueer blog. i don't remember them being involved in whatever was going down at all. personally disliking antis in general doesn't make it okay to be an ass to one specific anti that didn't even do anything wrong
i am the anti they are talking about when they say they were named publicly by an anti. you wanna know what actually happened? shortly after O had deactivated their anti blog, i got an anon saying that O was actually radqueer despite saying they were still an anti. i didn't believe this at first, and then whaddaya know? i get sent O's radqueer blog.
this is where me "publicly naming" O comes in. i wanted to let the other antis know that O was, infact, a radqueer, and that the anon wasn't lying. so i made a post along the lines of "burningradqueers is actually a radqueer, anon wasn't lying" but did not post the name of their radqueer blog anywhere.
at this time, i was still using O's deadname (unknowingly) and so i get told "hey this is O's current name please don't deadname them" by an anon. i guess because i started referring to O as their current name, that caused other antis to be able to find O's radqueer blog easier. not once did i tell ANYONE their rq blog's name. i literally just stopped using their deadname. i'm such a horrible person for using O's name /sar
"antis were fine with that" haha. multiple antis were saying things like "don't jump to conclusions!!" about O despite knowing that O was/is dating a pro c transn@z1 (censored so this actually shows up in tags). if anything, the other antis were overly kind to O.
"you only deserve privacy if you're an anti /sar" lol. there have been several anti blocklists/report lists made by radqueers. love it when radqueers say our community sucks and then do the exact same things they're criticizing us for /s
crosstagging because you guys (radqueers) will accept any and all information you're spoonfed as long as it comes from another radqueer
Shut up you don’t know what you’re talking about. DevilRadz main anti radqueer account was up and actively posting anti radqueer stuff the entire time and after being exposed. They lied and manipulated people, gaslit and spoke very negatively about radqueer people who exposed them.
Two of the people involved in exposing DevilRadz have said themselves that he has sent targeted hate to radqueers. Like I said even now he is still active and being anti radqueer.
Being anti radqueer is inherently harmful to us regardless of how you spin it.
You’re such an ignorant dick, you make that very apparent in your shitpost.
actually i don't really care? you have no proof of them manipulating or gaslighting people. if you count making a bait account as manipulative then most "ex"-antis are abusive because the majority of them were never actually antis
being anti-radqueer literally isn't harmful to anyone unless you're going into people's inboxes and suibaiting them and the like. radqueer is inherently pro-abuse so it is ACTUALLY inherently harmful
me omw to somehow harm an entire community by saying child abuse is not actually okay:
Btw majority of radqueer accounts are openly and blatantly anti abuse. The stereotype that we are inherently harmful came from antis, which is another way antis harm our community, by spreading misinformation and lies about us.
There have even been radqueers to make report/blocklists of pro abuse people
Radqueer was coined to be neu-c (literally just pro-c). I can find the coining screenshot if you don't believe me. Anti-c radqueers that aren't just anti-c for themselves aren't radqueers according to the radqueer Coining post. Also majority of radqueers are pro-c
I have literally only ever seen antis make blocklists for pro-abuse rqs stop making shit up
I misread your first sentence at first, neutral is pro dumbass it means neutral. It was recoined or reclaimed at one point because a lot of radqueers don’t support the OG coiner. Post the screenshot though if it makes you feel better.
YOU YOURSELF said you don’t even have your own tumblr and your not radqueer, and you’ve proved multiple times you know little to nothing about the radqueer community so you’re the only one making shit up. Speaking of made up shit, show me a criminal case against a radqueer?
There also isn’t a lot of pro abuse accounts on here. So yeah there is only a handful of posts, and not every server has the same blacklist.
Pro contact doesn’t mean pro abuse 😭 you’re heavily insinuating that all contact is non consensual and harmful. And yes forcing your contact stance on anyone else is inherently NOT radqueer. Radqueer isn’t inherently pro or anti anything, it defeats the definition of both “radical” and “queer”, individuals decide their own stances. Majority of radqueers are anti c or pro complex c, and anti abuse. You’re mad at your own misinformation and assumptions, not anything anyone has actually done.
i do not have my own tumblr. i did a few months ago, however. i was one of the most prominent anti-radqueer blogs. i have argued with radqueers. i have seen how you guys behave. and i've come to the conclusion that 50% of you are minors that were told they wouldn't be accepted anywhere else, and 50% transphobic racists who want to fuck kids because you've been rejected by everyone your own age. i know what a radqueer is. i know what your community believes. and what your community believes is inherently abusive.
Pro-contact is pro-abuse. You cannot have sex with a child without the child being damaged in some way, be it mentally or physically. Same with most animals. Even consensual sex between a child and an adult/older child will harm the child (I know this from experience!) Children cannot consent. Animals cannot consent. Pro-consent and pro-contact is an oxymoron because children and animals Cannot consent
I'm not "assuming". The vast majority of radqueers are either pro/neutral contact and pro-contact is pro-abuse.
also i literally never said a radqueer has gone to jail. i think that would be virtually impossible because most radqueers are children and there's only a couple thousand or so radqueers in the world anyway
You’re so dumb and insufferable I’ve literally lost all hope so I’m not replying to much you after this. Fuck your bullshit prominent account because like I said you know jack shit about the community and everything you say reinforces that because it’s all stereotyping and ideology that came from antis, none of this information you got from actual radqueers. “I’ve seen the way you guys behave and come to the conclusion that 🤓” LMFAOOO no you didn’t, you just proved that because most of what you just said about us was dead wrong. You were apart of the anti community not radqueers, you’re never going to convince an actual radqueer person your knowledge is real or based. I am radqueer, there nothing you can teach or convince me about being radqueer.
Pro contact isn’t inherently pro abuse, if you’re so educated on our community why didn’t you read the contact stance coins to understand them? Pro contact literally just means pro contact and is applied either individually to different IDs or used to describe someone’s contact stance as a whole.
Not very radqueer is a map, it’s a paraphilia so you aren’t required to claim the radqueer term if you are a map? It’s not even a radqueer made term my love it was around much longer than us; radqueer is simply inclusive of paraphilia havers if users have them. You also yourself admitted that most radqueers are minors themselves(probably because most adults can’t afford to be doxxed or don’t want to argue with dumb teens like you so they use other platforms), but point me to the law breaking child predators. The law also allows minors of a certain age to consent to older teens, if you disagree with that then write your state officials about changing it for your state but don’t take that out on us. I’m sorry you had a harmful experience, you still shouldn’t project that onto us. As you stated no radqueer has gone to jail(I said it because of that but of course your dumbass didn’t connect the dots) because none of have broken the law.
Pro consent is not an oxymoron because it literally cannot apply to young children and animals!!
Show me the transphobes and racist tho. Thought crime doesn’t exist, a lot of us adults go to extreme means to suppress thoughts/urges or get therapy for help managing them.
Your issue is very clear. You keep assuming pro contact and pro consent apply to animals and children, I don’t know who told you that but they lied about.
Pro contact does not apply to animals or children who cannot make informed consent because as you pointed out they cannot consent.
Trying to apply the pro contact label onto illegal or harmful dynamics will immediately get you called out.
Again you’re just regurgitating misinformation and ideology spread by other antis not actual radqueers,
I find it hard to believe you actually are an adult, considering you have to resort to insults when you realize you're losing the argument
...Where are you getting your information from? Anti-contact virtually always means anti-contact for paraphilias that would be harmful to act upon (eg pedophillia and zoophilia). Pro-contact has ALWAYS included contact for pedophilia and zoophilia. How the hell do you know so little about your own community?
You don't have to be in a community to know that said community is harmful. I'm not racist, does that mean I can't be anti-racist??
Most radqueers!!! Support minor/adult relationships!!! Or interact with people who do!!! You have never been in the tags of your own community and it's very fucking obvious
Calling anti-radqueer an ideology is actually hilarious because it's literally just a single belief, not a set of beliefs like radqueer
You proved you’re a kid because you’re focused on wining, I’m just correcting your ignorance and making fun of you in the process. I’m a legal adult, with a full time job, my own car AND ITS PAID OFF 😮💨🙏 Adults curse and insult people, welcome to reality.
They don’t and have never meant that because they are not radqueer made terms nor do they only apply to radqueer community or paraphiliac communities. Comp c and other more detailed contact stances were coined by us.
You’re not racist and can be anti racist, but like most white liberals if you do not listen to the community you’re involving yourself in the issue of you’re going to be repeatedly called out and your “activism” insulted because you don’t actually know what you’re talking about. So many white activists are called out for microsggressions and speaking over POC because they THINK they full understand what racism is. You think you full understand our community, our terms, our stances but you just admitted you’re not in our community? How could you possibly know if whenever a radqueer tries to tell you the truth regarding your information you speak over them with bullshit easily proven wrong.
Again show me the law breaking accounts. You said you’ve seen them and I’ve asked for proof more than once.
It is ideology because you have brought up multiple arguments about multiple things and multiple labels. So it’s not a singular belief. You have multiple beliefs about our community, you yourself listed them off.
Oh my god You make me rethink giving radqueers basic respect
Pro-contact IS a fucking paraphile contact stance!!! Pro-contact means your support contact for paraphilias!!! I thought this would be obvious but you don't know the history of your Own Fucking Community
I never fucking said any radqueer broke the law!!!! Not ONCE!!! You don't have to break the law for something to be morally wrong!!!
I listen to radqueers!!! I have argued with multiple radqueers!!! And I am STILL anti-radqueer!!! I have talked to radqueers, I have observed their interactions with each other!!! And you are all racist ableist transphobic child abusers hiding under the label of "queer"!!!
I am anti-radqueer!!!! That is a singular belief that includes being anti-contact and (sometimes) anti-transid because being pro-transid and pro-contact is the entire basis of radqueer!!! Anti-radqueer literally cannot be an ideology because every single anti-radqueer believes vastly different shit!!! The only thing most anti-radqueers have in common is that they're anti-radqueer!!!
Your first sentence is the complete fucking opposite of what I said, I feel like your just skimming through and reacting to what I say instead of reading and thinking.
No matter how many times I explain things to you, you keep saying the same bullshit I just explained wasn’t true. Saying something over and over won’t make it the truth especially when your bullshit was debunked before I ever interacted with you, this has been explained countless times outside of me and you debating, this has probably been explained to you before but your head is to far up ass and your ears too full of your own shit to hear anything else. You are by definition a fucking bigot.
All you have said has been incorrect, made up, and lies. The worse part is your ignorance runs so deep you refuse to listen to anything. You have never had a civil conversation and tried to actually understand anything about the radqueer community, you just yell your assumptions and lies over and over and over again I’m assuming until we just can’t stand talking to you anymore. I refuse to keep going in circles in with you just because you refuse to read and listen.
Again you said you’ve observed us, being a child abuser is a crime and multiple times I’ve asked you to show me proof of any of us breaking the law, I asked you for proof about your bullshit definitions, I’ve asked you for just proof and information to back up your bullshit and you can’t present anything. You’re only source is ‘I’ve seen you guys’ like shut up, you’re full of shit. You’re literally on your headmates account invalidating them as well, you’re a literal walking piece of shit, they need to lock your ass in the vault for a minute.
If a racist tells me "racism isn't bad" I'm not gonna fucking believe them. I'm going to observe the behaviors of racists and decide that they are indeed pieces of shit. If a radqueer tells me "Radqueer isn't (defining belief of radqueer) I'm not going to believe them, I'm going to look at what radqueers believe. And 90% of radqueers are pro-c blackface supporters.
Tell me where I lied? Highlight every single part of my posts where I lied.
You are genuinely stupid as fuck. My 9 year old sibling has more reading comprehension than you. Do you want me to go on every single radqueer blog and screenshot where they say they're pro-c? That wouldn't help anyways, because you're so goddamn stupid that you don't even know the DEFINITION of pro-c.
I'm not 'invalidating my headmate'. I don't care that the headmate in question is transid + the headmate in question knows I'm anti-transid and is fine with that because he's tolerant of beliefs other than his own (unlike you)
haiii i used to be einhornsocken !! (the anti that has THANKFULLY deactivated) i'm not really into discourse anymore (hence why i don't have my own blog anymore and am posting this on a headmate's blog lol) but this post made me mad so i had to say something
for context devilradz was an "undercover" anti "pretending" (for lack of better words) to be a radqueer. their intentions didn't seem to be bad, though. they weren't intentionally trying to hurt anybody as far as we know (and i'd bet no radqueer is even actually as affected by this as they claim to be)
the person in the screenshot had a fairly popular anti blog at one point (burningradqueers) and then right before new years deactivated and made a rq blog. they were never actually an anti though. i will call them O because they seem to throw tantrums if you even dare mention their name
afaik the anti behind devilradz themselves didn't have anything to do with people finding out about O's radqueer blog. i don't remember them being involved in whatever was going down at all. personally disliking antis in general doesn't make it okay to be an ass to one specific anti that didn't even do anything wrong
i am the anti they are talking about when they say they were named publicly by an anti. you wanna know what actually happened? shortly after O had deactivated their anti blog, i got an anon saying that O was actually radqueer despite saying they were still an anti. i didn't believe this at first, and then whaddaya know? i get sent O's radqueer blog.
this is where me "publicly naming" O comes in. i wanted to let the other antis know that O was, infact, a radqueer, and that the anon wasn't lying. so i made a post along the lines of "burningradqueers is actually a radqueer, anon wasn't lying" but did not post the name of their radqueer blog anywhere.
at this time, i was still using O's deadname (unknowingly) and so i get told "hey this is O's current name please don't deadname them" by an anon. i guess because i started referring to O as their current name, that caused other antis to be able to find O's radqueer blog easier. not once did i tell ANYONE their rq blog's name. i literally just stopped using their deadname. i'm such a horrible person for using O's name /sar
"antis were fine with that" haha. multiple antis were saying things like "don't jump to conclusions!!" about O despite knowing that O was/is dating a pro c transn@z1 (censored so this actually shows up in tags). if anything, the other antis were overly kind to O.
"you only deserve privacy if you're an anti /sar" lol. there have been several anti blocklists/report lists made by radqueers. love it when radqueers say our community sucks and then do the exact same things they're criticizing us for /s
crosstagging because you guys (radqueers) will accept any and all information you're spoonfed as long as it comes from another radqueer
Shut up you don’t know what you’re talking about. DevilRadz main anti radqueer account was up and actively posting anti radqueer stuff the entire time and after being exposed. They lied and manipulated people, gaslit and spoke very negatively about radqueer people who exposed them.
Two of the people involved in exposing DevilRadz have said themselves that he has sent targeted hate to radqueers. Like I said even now he is still active and being anti radqueer.
Being anti radqueer is inherently harmful to us regardless of how you spin it.
You’re such an ignorant dick, you make that very apparent in your shitpost.
actually i don't really care? you have no proof of them manipulating or gaslighting people. if you count making a bait account as manipulative then most "ex"-antis are abusive because the majority of them were never actually antis
being anti-radqueer literally isn't harmful to anyone unless you're going into people's inboxes and suibaiting them and the like. radqueer is inherently pro-abuse so it is ACTUALLY inherently harmful
me omw to somehow harm an entire community by saying child abuse is not actually okay:
Btw majority of radqueer accounts are openly and blatantly anti abuse. The stereotype that we are inherently harmful came from antis, which is another way antis harm our community, by spreading misinformation and lies about us.
There have even been radqueers to make report/blocklists of pro abuse people
Radqueer was coined to be neu-c (literally just pro-c). I can find the coining screenshot if you don't believe me. Anti-c radqueers that aren't just anti-c for themselves aren't radqueers according to the radqueer Coining post. Also majority of radqueers are pro-c
I have literally only ever seen antis make blocklists for pro-abuse rqs stop making shit up
I misread your first sentence at first, neutral is pro dumbass it means neutral. It was recoined or reclaimed at one point because a lot of radqueers don’t support the OG coiner. Post the screenshot though if it makes you feel better.
YOU YOURSELF said you don’t even have your own tumblr and your not radqueer, and you’ve proved multiple times you know little to nothing about the radqueer community so you’re the only one making shit up. Speaking of made up shit, show me a criminal case against a radqueer?
There also isn’t a lot of pro abuse accounts on here. So yeah there is only a handful of posts, and not every server has the same blacklist.
Pro contact doesn’t mean pro abuse 😭 you’re heavily insinuating that all contact is non consensual and harmful. And yes forcing your contact stance on anyone else is inherently NOT radqueer. Radqueer isn’t inherently pro or anti anything, it defeats the definition of both “radical” and “queer”, individuals decide their own stances. Majority of radqueers are anti c or pro complex c, and anti abuse. You’re mad at your own misinformation and assumptions, not anything anyone has actually done.
i do not have my own tumblr. i did a few months ago, however. i was one of the most prominent anti-radqueer blogs. i have argued with radqueers. i have seen how you guys behave. and i've come to the conclusion that 50% of you are minors that were told they wouldn't be accepted anywhere else, and 50% transphobic racists who want to fuck kids because you've been rejected by everyone your own age. i know what a radqueer is. i know what your community believes. and what your community believes is inherently abusive.
Pro-contact is pro-abuse. You cannot have sex with a child without the child being damaged in some way, be it mentally or physically. Same with most animals. Even consensual sex between a child and an adult/older child will harm the child (I know this from experience!) Children cannot consent. Animals cannot consent. Pro-consent and pro-contact is an oxymoron because children and animals Cannot consent
I'm not "assuming". The vast majority of radqueers are either pro/neutral contact and pro-contact is pro-abuse.
also i literally never said a radqueer has gone to jail. i think that would be virtually impossible because most radqueers are children and there's only a couple thousand or so radqueers in the world anyway
You’re so dumb and insufferable I’ve literally lost all hope so I’m not replying to much you after this. Fuck your bullshit prominent account because like I said you know jack shit about the community and everything you say reinforces that because it’s all stereotyping and ideology that came from antis, none of this information you got from actual radqueers. “I’ve seen the way you guys behave and come to the conclusion that 🤓” LMFAOOO no you didn’t, you just proved that because most of what you just said about us was dead wrong. You were apart of the anti community not radqueers, you’re never going to convince an actual radqueer person your knowledge is real or based. I am radqueer, there nothing you can teach or convince me about being radqueer.
Pro contact isn’t inherently pro abuse, if you’re so educated on our community why didn’t you read the contact stance coins to understand them? Pro contact literally just means pro contact and is applied either individually to different IDs or used to describe someone’s contact stance as a whole.
Not very radqueer is a map, it’s a paraphilia so you aren’t required to claim the radqueer term if you are a map? It’s not even a radqueer made term my love it was around much longer than us; radqueer is simply inclusive of paraphilia havers if users have them. You also yourself admitted that most radqueers are minors themselves(probably because most adults can’t afford to be doxxed or don’t want to argue with dumb teens like you so they use other platforms), but point me to the law breaking child predators. The law also allows minors of a certain age to consent to older teens, if you disagree with that then write your state officials about changing it for your state but don’t take that out on us. I’m sorry you had a harmful experience, you still shouldn’t project that onto us. As you stated no radqueer has gone to jail(I said it because of that but of course your dumbass didn’t connect the dots) because none of have broken the law.
Pro consent is not an oxymoron because it literally cannot apply to young children and animals!!
Show me the transphobes and racist tho. Thought crime doesn’t exist, a lot of us adults go to extreme means to suppress thoughts/urges or get therapy for help managing them.
Your issue is very clear. You keep assuming pro contact and pro consent apply to animals and children, I don’t know who told you that but they lied about.
Pro contact does not apply to animals or children who cannot make informed consent because as you pointed out they cannot consent.
Trying to apply the pro contact label onto illegal or harmful dynamics will immediately get you called out.
Again you’re just regurgitating misinformation and ideology spread by other antis not actual radqueers,
I find it hard to believe you actually are an adult, considering you have to resort to insults when you realize you're losing the argument
...Where are you getting your information from? Anti-contact virtually always means anti-contact for paraphilias that would be harmful to act upon (eg pedophillia and zoophilia). Pro-contact has ALWAYS included contact for pedophilia and zoophilia. How the hell do you know so little about your own community?
You don't have to be in a community to know that said community is harmful. I'm not racist, does that mean I can't be anti-racist??
Most radqueers!!! Support minor/adult relationships!!! Or interact with people who do!!! You have never been in the tags of your own community and it's very fucking obvious
Calling anti-radqueer an ideology is actually hilarious because it's literally just a single belief, not a set of beliefs like radqueer
You proved you’re a kid because you’re focused on wining, I’m just correcting your ignorance and making fun of you in the process. I’m a legal adult, with a full time job, my own car AND ITS PAID OFF 😮💨🙏 Adults curse and insult people, welcome to reality.
They don’t and have never meant that because they are not radqueer made terms nor do they only apply to radqueer community or paraphiliac communities. Comp c and other more detailed contact stances were coined by us.
You’re not racist and can be anti racist, but like most white liberals if you do not listen to the community you’re involving yourself in the issue of you’re going to be repeatedly called out and your “activism” insulted because you don’t actually know what you’re talking about. So many white activists are called out for microsggressions and speaking over POC because they THINK they full understand what racism is. You think you full understand our community, our terms, our stances but you just admitted you’re not in our community? How could you possibly know if whenever a radqueer tries to tell you the truth regarding your information you speak over them with bullshit easily proven wrong.
Again show me the law breaking accounts. You said you’ve seen them and I’ve asked for proof more than once.
It is ideology because you have brought up multiple arguments about multiple things and multiple labels. So it’s not a singular belief. You have multiple beliefs about our community, you yourself listed them off.
Oh my god You make me rethink giving radqueers basic respect
Pro-contact IS a fucking paraphile contact stance!!! Pro-contact means your support contact for paraphilias!!! I thought this would be obvious but you don't know the history of your Own Fucking Community
I never fucking said any radqueer broke the law!!!! Not ONCE!!! You don't have to break the law for something to be morally wrong!!!
I listen to radqueers!!! I have argued with multiple radqueers!!! And I am STILL anti-radqueer!!! I have talked to radqueers, I have observed their interactions with each other!!! And you are all racist ableist transphobic child abusers hiding under the label of "queer"!!!
I am anti-radqueer!!!! That is a singular belief that includes being anti-contact and (sometimes) anti-transid because being pro-transid and pro-contact is the entire basis of radqueer!!! Anti-radqueer literally cannot be an ideology because every single anti-radqueer believes vastly different shit!!! The only thing most anti-radqueers have in common is that they're anti-radqueer!!!