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i'm DA NEEDLEMEISTER! i draw and stream rainworld sometimes!
azazel | he/him / hy/hymn | 25
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we talking echo names and i want to address how much i want to slam my head at the wall because of downpour echo names. they literally do not follow the clearest pattern ever that original echoes followed wth. there must be a number. it's just that simple. THAT simple. 1 number, 2 main objects (FOUR NEEDLES under Plentiful LEAVES, DROPLETS upon FIVE Large DROPLETS, A BELL, EIGHTEEN Amber BEADS, etc). is my brain just fried by coming up with warrior so naming systems? maybe. but it's just that simple oh my god.
i would fucking maintag it if i didn't know this would hurt some people's feelings but oh god im barely holding myself shaking
Truly, it is hell
For more context on how bad it was, the fanon works contradict half the lore of the base game
Every other day I have to tell someone that something they thought was true about the game was from the fanon DLC and not the base game. its so bad
My reblogs are open if you want to rant more. this sounds horrifying but now I'm morbidly curious
ESSENTIALLY Downpour (DLC in question) was a huge mod made for the game under the name More Slugcats. But because of legal issues with Adult Swim Games, I think the RW devs decided to pick up Downpour and make it into an official mod whilst they worked on the ACTUAL thing
It's pretty clear that the devs of RW were pretty vibes-based in their approach to the lore and didn't particularly care how people interpreted it. The merch itself is even based off fanon ideas. Downpour is currently known as an "Official AU" whatever the hell that means.
Thankfully we have an ACTUAL DLC now that is what the devs always intended to be the expansion to the game, but the RW fandomscape is forever ruined because shit that modders made up was thought to be actual canon
If you want to know like some of the actual things that Downpour changed there are about several videos and essays that mostly I've written about it, and how often I have to correct people :sob:
to quickly summarize though
Ignoring Ascension and painting it in a more negative light despite it at most being neutral
Turning Ascension into a external judgement thing like heaven/hell when it has and always been a fault of your own mind if you fail to ascend. Because Buddhism
Neutering the Only Woman Character of her rougher traits and turning her into a character who only serves the player and loves her brother
Make one of the characters into a smart but desperate guy into an immature dickhead who needs to be looked after
Make the functions of ingame mechanics like karma so much more confusing??
Claiming iterators being biomechanical is why they can't ascend (if this were the case, most creatures would not be able to ascend. They're all biomechanical.)
This video (which I am totally not promoing because I made the thumbnail) goes over it generally
And I also have a section on my website that shows a lot of this stuff
I don't think you'll actually go through these but I'm putting them here anyways because What If?
At least lately people have realized that DP is non-canon so we've recovered just a bit?
the Downpour "I placed my faith into the hands of random gods" line does not go as hard as you guys think
like. contextually. it kind of makes no sense and feels so fucking forced
This echo- guy who "failed" to ascend (he didn't but he doesn't know this) is complaining about how they wasted all this time on politics and wars just to make the iterators and how the iterators are failing
"Now I have to endure it to the end" wtf did moons collapse have to do with you being an echo?? or any of the iterators for that matter
Like, dude you're making this all about yourself
Obviously the echoes can say things that are Wrong but if you wanted to convey "guy who is blaming all his problems on the iterators" I don't think this is a good way to do it
its like how it is with Rhinestones, the context of the narrative and of the DP devs' intentions don't make us think that this is a guy who is blinded by love, but rather someone we should actively agree with
the downpour echoes appear less as people who are teaching you wisdom through their failures or teaching you about what they personally see, but rather people we should Actively Personally Agree With. Also holy fuck the bitter aerie echo in saint is so fucking useless and not even worth it at all all they do is tell you "woaw you did such a good job :^)" dogshit ass fuckin
unnamed iterator version of a guy
whiteboard doodles of the itties feat terrible things
@amostdelectablescribbler 's take on the rain world alphabet, but... alphabetized! specifically the foundational case, since i like to write down the names of my iterator ocs in it :]
the hard/soft thing is phoned in don't @ me if it's wrong snfhsdn
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Some Thoughts on Karma, the Natural Journey of Ascension, and Why the Ancients/Benefactors were Kind of Wrong
I'd like to address the community-wide misconception that you can only gain karma through "shedding your urges" when both in game and within the text of the game, we see this isn't true! the whole "shedding urges in order to ascend" stuff was only really a thing before the void fluid revolution, as Moon states in the bright red farm arrays pearl. The discovery of void fluid entirely trivialized needing to completely shed your urges by providing a much more natural method of ascension, and we see this play out within Rain World's story and gameplay.
In-game, we gain karma by directly engaging with our urges, whether it be sustaining our hunger, holding treasured items close or just survival in itself. From the beginning we are deeply ensnared within the struggles of living, "caught in the net" as the ancients/benefactors say. However, over the course of our gameplay, (I'm using survivor as a baseline, since their campaign illustrates the core of this) as we learn and grow and become more knowledged, living becomes easier, the struggle is not as harsh as it was before, and surely but slowly we die less and less as time goes on.
Simultaneously, this is reflected in our karma, as by dying less, we now hold higher karma more frequently. This coincides with the natural gameplay loop of rain world; the more we explore and learn new things, the more we grow and learn about the world and our place within it, we tread further and further away from the struggles of life, and become closer to enlightenment.
Ascension is the natural culmination of this journey of enlightenment, the next step on the path beyond. It's not inherently the right or wrong choice to make, its a step into the unknown, in search of something greater, of answers to our own existence, true spiritual self-fulfillment. This is how the ancients/benefactors saw it, but you could say they still got parts of it pretty wrong...
This is treading more into personal headcanon territory now, so bear with me, but I believe the issue lies within the great problem that the ancients built the iterators to solve. They wanted to find a means of evicting all life, material, the entire world from the cycles entirely, eliminating the personal struggle tied to ascension, taking away the choice and the journey that are so unbelievably crucial to it. This is also why I personally believe that a solution to the great problem doesn't or can't exist, as it would go against the fabric of their universe, from which the cycles are built upon. (LTTM describes the group behind this ideology as "triangulators"; they believed a solution was dangerous and had to be inferred rather than solved)
Ironically, in their desire to become effortless, by creating the iterators to make living easier, and to detach themselves from the struggles of the cycles, (just as we do within our own journey to ascension as the slugcat) this could also only be achieved through massive effort, so they even weren't truly "effortless" in the end, as nothing can be. Of course though, the few echoes in-game demonstrate that same ideology slipping through. Those ancients/benefactors became echoes because they hadn't experienced the personal journey paramount to ascension, or maybe they just didn't want to leave, but regardless, they weren't able to let go of their place in the universe and move on, and thus, they stayed behind.
TLDR: The ancients/benefactors were wrong about ascension because as a society they didn't fully recognize how important personal struggle, journey, and choice is for ascension, and sought to remove that struggle entirely.
please don't think i have no empathy for you what you've been through... but there's nothing i can do, now, but stand here and watch it all catch up to you
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Cynerator. Please stop doing the golden Freddy pose. You're scaring the children
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cynerator. if it matters
The screenshots are fake. I didnt make them, Azriel didnt make them, none of my friends made them. We were given them and were told they were real, we believed the person because we didnt think they had a reason to be lying about this. The individual who gave us these screenshots is fucking disgusting. I didnt lie, i was mislead and was naive enough to think someone wouldnt be lying about something as terrible as this.
I wanted to believe they were real, not because i wanted pansear to be gone, but because i wanted to think someone wouldnt lie about that. it was irresponsible of us to not have considered the possibility of them being fake, i will admit that. Our intention with posting the screenshots was not to deceive others, we were trying to warn people of what we thought was a dangerous individual within the community, we meant no harm with posting the screenshots
i will also admit that my response to a lot of the things people have been saying to me was very immature, i was stressed out and couldnt handle all of it and instead of taking a step back before responding, i handled it immaturely. That is completely my fault, i shouldve taken a moment to calm down and made an actual response instead of just joking around.
To anyone who is trying to make pansear seem like a worse person than they are, youre not helping. Youre allowed to dislike pansear, i dislike pansear myself, but do not try to make fake screenshots or art to try and ‘expose’ them for something they havent done, if you do that you are disgusting and are just making things worse.
that being said, the screenshots being fake does NOT justify the threats i have been receiving, if you think that its okay to wish for a childs life to be ruined, you are sick in the head. Please just leave me alone.