This place is a message... and part of a system of messages... pay attention to it!
Sending this message was important to us. We considered ourselves to be a powerful culture.
This place is not a place of honor... no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here... nothing valued is here.
What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us. This message is a warning about danger.
The danger is in a particular location... it increases towards a center... the center of danger is here... of a particular size and shape, and below us.
The danger is still present, in your time, as it was in ours.
The danger is to the body, and it can kill.
The form of the danger is an emanation of energy.
The danger is unleashed only if you substantially disturb this place physically. This place is best shunned and left uninhabited.
Anon: A thing that I imagine has always been a part of the experience of "this place" –
Me: I don't know what this place is.
Anon: Oh, it's part of a message, and part of a culture, isn't it?
Me: But I know what messages and cultures are, and I know they're not the same.
Me: I'm talking about some feature of human experience that's been common enough that it feels like a core part of our nature, without being a defining element of our existence
Anon: I feel like I don't understand.
Me: It's more like I'm talking about the experience of seeing a message – this thing you're thinking about, "this thing" – and I'm saying that you're missing out on something important about "this place" if you just dismiss it as a "message."
Anon: I can see that messages and cultures are part of human experience. But what is this place? Is it a place at all, or something else?
Me: It's a type of message, which is typically one which has a "meaning" – but it's a message that is given "energy" by the presence of a culture.
Anon: Does it have a "culture"?
Me: …look, I'm sorry, I've lost my fucking mind here, I don't know what is going on, I'm so fucking incoherent, I don't know if I'm coherent at all.
Me: this place, this whole place, it's a message, it's part of a culture, it's part of a system of messages –
Me: …it's saying "look, we're in danger, we have a danger, we can see it, we can know what it is, we can know how to fight it, we can see its shape, we can know how to hit it, we can see you, we can know where to find you, we can know who to hurt, we can know how to hurt, we can know what to do when we're hit, we can know what to say to get hit, we can know what to do when we're hit, we can know the names of people who can hurt, we can know the names of people who can't, we can know what they're thinking, we can know how to move when we're hit, we can know how to block when we're hit, we can know how to block when we're hit – look, we're in danger, this place is a message, the danger is there, we can see it, the danger is energy, the danger is focused, the danger is focused on the center, the center is there, the danger is there, we can know it, the danger is here, it's here, we can touch it, we can walk through it, we can ride a bike through it, we can see it, it's here."
Anon: What? I don't understand –
Me: "Look, we're in danger, this place is a message, the danger is there, we can see it, the danger is focused, the danger is focused on the center, the center is there, the danger is there, we can know it, the danger is here, it's here, we can touch it, we can walk through it, we can ride a bike through it, we can see it, it's here." yeah, that's the message, dude.
Anon: You mean you can see it?
Me: Yes, I mean if you were to take the place at face value – and by doing so you'd be saying "it's a person, and it wants to hurt us, and it's there" – then yes, you can see it.
Anon: "the danger is there"?
Me: Yes, you can see it as such, yes.
Anon: "the danger is focused on the center"?
Me: No, no, no, it's got an unfocused mass of danger and nothing really seems to be going in any one particular direction.
Anon: "the danger is there"?
Me: Yes, we can know it, yes.
Anon: "…it's here, it's here, we can see it, it's here."
Me: No, it's not here, look, we're going to destroy this place –
Anon: we're going to get through this?
Me: – but you don't have to believe me, you can look at this place –
Anon: we're going to destroy this place –
Me: – which I'm going to describe to you, and which is going to be overwhelmingly horrible and awful, because we're going to destroy this place –
Anon: – look – look, I don't know anything about this place –
Me: – all I'm doing here is telling you that we're going to destroy this place –
Anon: – we're going to get through this and get home –
Me: – all I'm telling you is that we're going to destroy this place –
Anon: – look – look, I know you're not really telling me that, I know you're just going on the way you always do –
Me: – and that we're going to destroy this place –
Anon: – which I think is really important, I'm not going to argue with that, but –
Me: – anyway, we're going to destroy this place –
Anon: – but even if you are telling me that –
Me: – look, I know it's "you're going to get through this and get home." –
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