MJ: And I will say- maybe this is a good note to end on. When we started Nirvana the Band, it was the three of us. And I cannot, it's going to be difficult for me to explain how meaningless and unpopular it was. And we made it for three years. And it's all we did, all we did was make that stupid show and it ended somewhat acrimoniously and we never got anything out of it. It was only a couple people in Toronto who even knew what it was and we loved it and maybe a hundred people, uh realistically, maybe a thousand people worldwide saw it and liked it. And if you have an idea for something that you want to do and you're like, ah, nobody likes this, this sucks, you never know. Because, I really do mean it, we thought we had failed. Really. And it was years later that we got the chance to make the TV show, and if we're being honest even that was a failure. Like, we loved it, and we know the people here loved that show, but, like, nobody cared. It was only with this very homogenized, G-rated movie that we've made that now people are paying attention. And so, take that for yourselves and your own fruitless, ridiculous dreams that you're like, "Well, everybody hates this, I'm a moron." You don't know. Maybe a time machine at one point will bring new relevance to this stuff you're wasting your time with now. Thank you everybody. Goodnight. Goodbye.
David Lynch was a huge influence on Danhausen. (ā¦) because in a world that is purely sanitized garbage for the most part, as far as arts and films and music and all that go, seemingly at least, he was authentically himself. He was unapologetically himselfā why would he apologize? He was weird, but because he was authentically weird, weird is good.
matt & jay on the intersection between their characters and their real selves (transcript below)
INT: You've been doing this for 20 years. Presumably the two of you personally have grown and evolved and had events in your lives in those intervening years; have you diverged from the characters, or do you still feel that they're pretty close to the real Matt and Jay?
JAY: I can always access the Jay that is the Jay in Nirvanna the Band. It's basically just tapping into your deepest, darkest instincts and allowing yourself to just be impulsive and vulnerable, and it's fun to do that. And I think right away when we started this, even when we were kids, we knew how to kind of be vulnerable like that, and we found it very funny, that when it felt very sincere and real, it was contributing to what we liked about shooting the show. Because we liked the sincerity of it.
And I guess, yeah, we've grown up, we've gotten better at making music and films, but we keep each other honest when we shoot it still, even at this age, to sort of make sure that we're still being quite naked with each other. [laughs]
INT: Matt, do you still feel that connection to the Matt character there?
MATT: My answer's slightly different, I feel like the older I get the more I become like that. I think the archetype, it acts on me in the same way that l act on it, because it is very much a shadow of myself. In the same way that Peter Pan chases his own shadow, like that's a pivotal part of that myth, I witness this happening to me. And it's a gift, because it means the older I get, the more connected I am to this adolescent moron, in a way. And I use that term with all due respect, because the ignorance allows this character to be so foolishly optimistic about his own future, the chances of success, gives him the confidence to pitch wild-eyed ideas that really have no basis in reality, yet, again, just might work.
INT: Do you ever feel like the characters hold you back from real-life growth? That as you enter maybe relationships, or financial things, do you feel the Nirvanna Matt and Jay on your shoulder telling you, āThat's too...ā
MATT: No, it's the exact opposite. Because, I mean, again, it's The Picture of Dorian Gray! It's like the movie versions of us get to die and make these mistakes and do these insane decisions so that we don't need to do them. Right? It's the same as lying in bed and imagining a bad decision and running it out like a video game, and then going, āYeah, maybe I shouldn't do that.ā We get to exorcise our demons!
JAY: It seems like the more we explore and get to shoot and be vulnerable with these sort of like pseudo-real versions of ourselves, that you're faced with it, and you have a self-awareness of it, so that when you leave that character on the floor of the scene or whatever, you can actually learn to grow away from it, and you learn about yourself and you go, āOh wow, I'm glad I'm not actually out of control of this part of myself, but I have it in control.ā
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