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Left here wondering who at ABC is getting yelled at for saying. “no, budget cuts totally sounds like a legitimate reason! No one will ask questions about our refusal to pick up our female lead! It’ll totally fly!”
Not to mention that their last 3 regular cast cuts have cut 3 female cast members but no male cast members. And before everyone says the first cut was Capt. Montgomery, remember it was his desire to be written off the show and move back to NY for personal reason.
Pre-Caskett, Rick catches Kate looking at a Tumblr fansite dedicated to sexy times between the two of them. Inspired by this gif, which is not mine but which was on the blog by Caskettsexytimes. Original gif credited to Lackofprivacy.
Waiting for that moment when someone in the precinct calls "Castle!" and both Rick and Kate turn and answer.
I'm genuinely curious to know why you think the early seasons of Castle are overrated? Season 3 is actually my least favorite season as well, but I really enjoy the levity of the first two seasons, and I personally think that season 2 has some of the funniest episodes of the series. I am in no way trying to discredit your opinions, I'm simply curious
Nah I never mind genuine questions and discussion (as opposed to simply disagreeing with me or telling me I’m wrong, which leaves us with precisely nowhere to go…).
Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy the levity and the teasing of the earlier seasons. I just often see posts about how those were better, and the quality of the writing and characterisation has gone downhill or become worse in the later season (usually referring to 5/6). I think that’s a load of hogwash, personally. No doubt the change in C/B’s relationship has meant in some ways the writing and their dialogue has had to change and mature, but I actually think it’s for the better. I definitely appreciate C/B as individuals and as a couple now more than I did before. And while there have definitely been occasional mis-steps and plotholes, they used to exist in those early seasons too.
So I think when people discuss the various seasons, they hold the later ones to a higher standard, and view the earliers ones through rose-tinted glasses and a sense of nostalgia, meaning that they often overrate the quality of those eps and underrate (IMO) the ones we’ve gotten in recent years. Personally I think what the writing staff, actors etc were trying to do in the earlier seasons (establish the UST, the family dynamics etc) is generally easier to do than what they’ve done in the later seasons (transitioned to a believable relationship, grown the characters tremendously). How often do we see shows perpetually mired in the formulaic stereotypes of those first few seasons (flirty banter and UST in general) never pull the trigger and move to the second stage. I give a lot less credit for doing something that’s already been done before, over and over, and a lot more for going into territory that TV shows rarely venture into, and doing it well.
Season 3 is definitely at the bottom though, at least we agree on that.
Pretty much this. I’ve enjoyed every season, but I think they grow with depth and characterization each year. It starts off as something very light, very straightforward. But it becomes complex, the characters show more flaws. They don’t do everything we might wish them to do the way that we wish them to do it - based on individual preferences of course – but they have growth in the process.
I think some people prefer the earlier material because it’s easier to take in. It’s fun and less complicated. But some of us, like myself really prefer the complexity, the shades of color and layering.
I agree with all of this. There are so many examples of characterization that goes off the rails in later seasons, or a relationship killing a series ("Moonlighting", "Remington Steele", etc.). For backwards character development, "Bones" comes to mind. It used to be a really interesting show that has gotten mired in gimmicks and slapstick instead of character growth. When the character of Brennan started, she was this complex, contradictory amalgamation of a highly intelligent woman with socially awkward flaws that she was aware of and actively worked with. She knew there were things she wasn't good at and sought help from others or worked to overcome those flaws. As they developed her relationship with Booth and others, she became more of a caricature and completely oblivious to her flaws, to the point that is simply unbelievable and awkward. For someone so highly intelligent, the backwards progression doesn't work and it ruined the show for me.
It is so much more difficult to develop and write a character and a pairing that grow over time, still flawed, yet deeply realistic, without being trite or gimmicky. To keep the magic and depth of a loving relationship once the duo have become a couple is a challenge most shows fail. Part of that is writing, part of it is the actors interpreting what they're given. Either way, when it works, it's magic. When it doesn't, it's time to change the channel. With Castle, it is always interesting and dynamic, whether they agree or disagree. They remain committed to each other and work it out in a way that is realistic, that shows how to resolve conflict and respect your partner even when they annoy you or you disagree. That's what a true loving relationship is. It's something many aren't familiar with anymore either because they don't have the example in their own lives or because they've bought the fiction of what a relationship should be from the many dysfunctional relationships shown on TV.
Sorry but what you are saying about Alexis is utterly stupid, Alexis is not hated because she brings real issues, Alexis is hated because she is grown enough to manage those issues and behave with maturity, how old is she, 21? she is older enough to know what she wants and what her father wants, she is being bitchy with Kate since season 4 for no reason, his father put himself in danger, investigating Johanna's murder behind Beckett's back, so no I don't excuse Alexis for her bratty behavior.
Sorry, but no. The hate for Alexis stems from people who usually don’t like that she takes away from romantic time between Castle and Beckett.
Think about it logically. Richard Castle has never had a relationship work long term, just as he’s never been in a relationship that has made him happy long term. Alexis, first and foremost, is going to protect and side with her father. Any of her issues with Beckett are actually very well placed because, literally, her lone parent who gives an actual shit about her wanders in front of gun fire/stands near bombs etc just in the hope that this woman who has inspired him might love him back. It’s romantic, sure, but it’s also a terrible thing to know that your parent might end up dead and all for a woman who (at least during season 4, to Alexis) might not love him back.
She isn’t being bitchy. The one time Alexis has been bitchy to Kate Beckett directly corresponded to her father and her grandmother being locked in a bank. It also happened to fall around the time that she realized her first love wasn’t there for her and it was time to put an end to the relationship. That’s a big milestone that have probably made most of us a little rude to others.
What most of you are implying as bitchy? That’s stuff between Castle and Alexis that has nothing to do with Beckett. And, frankly, the tension that does exist between Alexis and Kate? Goes both ways. Kate has kept herself from getting involved and choosing sides, has never really sought Alexis out for talking or bonding until late in season 6. As for season 7? Her father is missing. If you didn’t know where your dad was? You’d probably be a bit of a bitch too.
But this does kind of prove my point, it’s all Alexis fault. Beckett can’t have don’t anything wrong. Simply not true. And, for the matter, if Kate Beckett isn’t upset and frustrated with Alexis why the hell is everyone else? Beckett’s a big girl, she can’t take a little ire from a girl who is still trying to figure her life out.
Well said, the hate for Alexis is not justified, its just fandom idiocy at its best. A lot of people use Alexis’ age behind their hate, but they use it to their advantage, either she’s old enough and should understand and respect her father’s decisions. Or she’s too young to really understand what love is so how could she possibly know what CB are feeling and if marriage is the right thing. It can’t go both ways, no one seems to look at it from Alexis’ POV but instead just want to shame on anyone that speaks ill of Kate
Reblogging this version (I edited it completely because I thought it was rambling) for posterity.
I am 21 and I don’t have everything figured out. My older sisters and brother do. One is 25, 29 and 30. the 29 and 30 year old are both married with good jobs. The 25 year old is engaged. Let me tell you they are so busy with their own lives that they barely come home. That is how it should be. Only coming home when it’s necessary. Alexis should focus a little more on herself and less on what Castle is doing. Most people my age do know what love is. MQ said that hopefully her relationship with PI would’ve shown her how Castle felt about Beckett.
Uhm 24 here and I dont have anything figured out. I’m going to get my Masters because I DONT want to utilize my Bach. degree - When people ask me what I want to do with my Masters I laugh and tell them I have no idea - I’ll figure it out along the way. My parents live 12 min away from me (which is far for my town) but yes, I still go home a lot and talk to my mom everyday. There is no reason why Alexis should have anything let alone everything figured out at 21. Yeah she might know a thing or two about love and relationships, but look at her father - he’s been married 2 times with a slew of girlfriends along the way - the Entire time Alexis has been growing up. She doesnt quite know what to make of this, and that’s fine. Just because they dont show their relationship does Not mean that Beckett and Alexis do not have one at all! They’ve shown that they do throughout the series, but guess what! This is called Castle and its about murders and Caskett, not Alexis. They wont focus on that a lot.
And YES! HER DAD IS MISSING AND PRESUMABLY DEAD FROM A FIERY CAR CRASH!!!
I would like to think if you were in her shoes, or just have any common sense at all, that you would be a little worried, ansy, agitated, and angry too! Besides devastated. Beckett’s Not the only one who should be worried here! He has other family members too!
Okay you make valid points. If one of my parents was in a fiery car crash on the day of their wedding I would be quite worried, upset and angry. Putting myself in Alexis’s shoes she will have a right to be upset because the closest person to her may be dead. Being emotionally distraught will probably cause Alexis to lash out at everyone around her. Beckett and Martha. With Beckett’s background she will understand Alexis feelings and won’t take it personally. Alexis will need to remember that Beckett will be hurting also as will Martha.
Let's not forget that many of the issues Alexis had last season probably stemmed from the fact that her father, whom she is supposed to be very close to, failed to tell her he got engaged to Beckett and she heard about it from her grandmother. And that even after she heard about it, it didn't seem like he sat down with her to have a discussion about it. Most people I know would have an issue with that and resent it. Was it misplaced anger at Kate? Perhaps that's what she showed at times. The real problem was the breakdown in her relationship with her dad and feeling pushed out by the new woman in his life. While I sometimes find the Alexis character annoying, I don't think the show has portrayed her and Kate as having a terrible relationship. It has been uneven. One day she's snarky when her dad is in danger or she feels his feelings are not being returned. The next she's fist bumping Beckett for taking him down a peg at Scrabble. That's what happens in families. They fight, they make up, they miscommunicate, they bond. And this show is all about family, flaws and all.
So I was thinking again and I was wondering what you think would've happened had Montgomery not died in the hangar. You know no funeral means Beckett wouldn't have gotten shot. And I'm curious as to what would've happened to Beckett and Montgomery's relationship.
I wonder about this too, particularly as I rewatch the episodes connected to the story. Part of Montgomery’s reasoning it for doing what he does is that he can’t go to prison, because he doesn’t want to put his family through that. But, all throughout the earlier episodes, he’s actually encouraging her towards carefully finding out what’s going on. And then, we see from Veritas that he was clearly working with her mother, and was willing to tell her and potentially others that he was involved. So, there have been times that risk was there.
It seems, at least in Knock out as a Beckett wants to be supportive of him, but at the same time part of that may be connected to the fact that he died. To preserve his memory. I wonder if the living with that knowledge might of been doing? What do you guys think?
It seems to me an equally plausible way to handle this was to have him become an informant that brings down Bracken and put Montgomery into witness protection. They could have had him shot in the vest so he survived. It could have been equally dramatic. And we know deals get made for criminals who turn on their partners in crime every day. Even though Ruben Santiago-Hudson wanted to leave the show because he was based in New York and tired of commuting, I think they chose to go the route that they did because they weren't ready to wrap up the storyline about her mother's killer this early in the show. By that time, the show was definitely gaining in popularity and viewership year over year. And having a major character death occur so close to the season finale was shocking, only to have it be the set up for Kate being shot. People were so taken aback by his death that they couldn't help but tune in the following week to see what was planned for the finale.
I believe even if Montgomery hadn't been killed, they would have had an equally plausible scenario where Kate was shot as she pursued the evidence against her mother's killer. They wanted to buy more time to advance their relationship and put that case on the back burner. The advantage to going the witness protection route was that it would have provided some amazing scenes between the actors as they found out what he did and struggled to come to grips with it, and they would have had the ability to bring him back occasionally as a character. But they would have missed out on the gradual discovery of who killed her mother, who ordered it, and how she ultimately caught him.
Every time you respond to a request for your favorite fics you make writers not mentioned feel like shit. So maybe don't?!
First off, I am sorry you feel that way, but I do need to say a few things to this.
When someone first asked me for my favourites I was worried cause of this happening. I do completely understand that it can suck to be left off lists, I really really get that. But I stated that it was only my opinion and I hope that people should know that for all of the favourite lists.
I think I’m pretty good at featuring a wide range of authors on this blog in general and I am always happy to add authors, check out their fics, and link to anything that people ask me to. One of the many reasons I started this blog was to try and let people know about new or not as well known authors and I am constantly trying to improve in this area.
I put in a lot of work for this blog, and majority of it is not doing the favourite lists, they are only a very small part of everything on here. It can get overwhelming sometimes, and the favourite lists are fun to do when I get them and it gives me a bit of break when I do an easier list like that.
I am truly sorry if I have made you feel bad but I can’t stress enough that these are just my opinion. I hope that you are writing because you enjoy it and the people who read your story enjoy it, and that should really be all that matters.
Just because you aren’t on my list, doesn’t mean you aren’t on someone else’s. I am just one person in a large fandom, who happens to run a blog. People ask because they are curious, or maybe want some shorter lists for some specific things. I don’t think I should stop just because I might make some people upset.
Because really, I love reading most fic, which is why I have this blog. If your fic is on any list then I have most probably enjoyed it anyway!
I asked a few people on twitter what they thought on this topic and they tended to agree with me. However I would like to hear other people’s opinions on this, and if the consensus is that I should stop, then I will do so.
Thanks
This person is WAY too sensitive. You do a fantastic job of compiling lists of quality fics that people can read and enjoy. If a writer doesn't make your favorites list it doesn't mean they aren't a good writer (although that may be the case for some), it just means it didn't connect with you. There are some people who write, but don't write well. There are some people who write well but whose stories don't connect (incest kink, for example). You can't please everyone all of the time. As a fellow writer, I enjoy the feedback and comments I get but i certainly don't feel slighted if I don't make your lists or if someone doesn't connect with what I've written. I write for myself. If someone else enjoys it, great. If not, I'm still going to write. And if I'm not connecting with a lot of people or getting recognition, maybe that's a sign that I need to keep working and improving. Right now I'm not even able to get to my current story and I have readers very patiently waiting for me to continue. I feel that responsibility to them, but I can't let it control me and I still have to prioritize my time in a responsible way. You have to do the same thing with your blog. Don't let these types of complaints deter you. You do an amazing job and should keep doing what you do.
Gotta wonder why people try to rain on your day.
The internet trolls crack me up. Just received a "guest" review to one of my stories asking if it was supposed to be cute and telling me it wasn't even hot. Didn't have the balls to identify themselves or admit they read smut...but made it 15 chapters into the story before leaving their poorly written criticism. I admit my writing can be uneven - especially in what was my first ever fanfiction. I don't pretend to be everyone's cup of tea. But you must have liked some of it if you made it 15 chapters into a story I wrote and finished last year.
Okay guys, here’s a little question for you:
Now that everything has played out for the year, what is one thing you would have liked to have changed about season 6 other than changing any of the events from the finale. We’re talking Beckett staying in DC longer,...
Probably not a popular thought but....I would have had Castle tell Alexis about the engagement right away instead of her finding out from Martha and him not discussing it with her for 6 weeks. It just seemed so out of character given their relationship and caused a lot of unnecessary friction. While I'm not as big a fan of older Alexis as I was of younger Alexis, his handling of the engagement just didn't ring true. He would have told her right away, not hidden it or ignored her. And there were other ways to justify her dating and moving in with Pi. There's so much natural friction between a teenager and parent when they are growing up and testing boundaries that its not necessary to manufacture it unnecessarily.
The logic thing is the worst. The fact that Beckett must have gone through background check many times and that it is just so unlikely that anyone would get married and not notice in 15 years. That we think that Beckett isn't that that type of person is minor for me (although I also find it kind of out of character) When it comes down to it the story of Castle is written by Marlowe, and if he thinks it fits Beckett to have been married before I guess it does. (trying to convince myself here)
i can definitely buy Beckett being in a dark circle of hell 15 years ago after her mother died and being a drunky drunkerson and doing lots of stupid shit. i could even conceivably see her getting married in vegas and being irresponsible, because hell, i was 19 once too and i didn’t even have the excuse of a parent dying. people do dumb shit, that part isn’t hard to believe.
i do NOT buy that someone could be married for 15 years and not know it. especially given her career and screening she must’ve gone through. plus, i don’t know much about taxes or anything in the states, but in canada you have to specify your marital status on your tax forms even if you’re only common law, and if you don’t, it CAN matter. it doesn’t always, but it can.
i just don’t believe that a person could be married 15 years without knowing it, especially in her profession.
All of this. I believe this is more likely a scam that the ex is running on Beckett to get her to do something for him. IF the writer's chose to have her married for 15 years without her knowledge I will be very disappointed, as it seems so out of character and gimmicky and they don't usually do that. Instead of freaking out like so many in the fandom, I'm going to wait and see what they did and how they handle it. At the end of the day, this is all about entertainment and they do a great job of entertaining us week in and week out.
The revelation came to me last night. The news that will put a speed bump in the Castle and Beckett wedding, bring in Beckett’s wild phase and bring in a guy from her past is that she got married in some wild night and thought she got it annulled or a divorce but didn’t.
It is saild Caslre’s…
This theory makes sense given the bread crumbs we’ve seen, but it also seems like a stunt MilMar would not pull.
No. Just, no. This seems incredibly out of character for her and flies in the face of her statement in season one that she's never been married and is a one and done type. She may hold things close to the vest, but to suddenly reveal that she's been married (and is still married) and had a relationship of that significance that she never told Castle about? After everything they've shared? It undermines everything they've built into the Caskett relationship. And it is the kind of cheap trick that lazy writers use to create drama. I just can't see our show runners cheapening their product by going this route.
Please, Castle, you have to promise me if you don’t hear from me by 10 o’clock you will call me and get me out of there.
A better apology would probably involve taking her clothes off and trailing your lips southwards Castle.
Thanks for the prompt - I've been too busy to write lately but this would not leave me alone. Rated M, so only those of age should read. Here's the link: www.fanfiction.net/s/10235282/1/Forgive-Me
Anything that you find, you bring it to me first, do you understand? I will not have you screw up another one of my investigations. | requested by dickcastle
Loved this moment between them. The first time we’ve ever see Gates open up on the show, really.
Except for that time when we learned about her doll. But I agree. I really enjoy getting to know more about the woman behind "Iron Gates".
I’m a lazy procrastinator, as probably many of you are, and I spent the whole weekend working on only one of my four big projects/tests, or on here, and now I’m pressed for time… I have to prepare arguments for a debate in which I must prove that life as a teenager was harder in the 20th than the...
Probably too late to help you, but keep in mind that you are talking about an entire century. At the beginning of the 20th century people had to deal with high mortality rates, disease, no antibiotics, the great depression, etc. Automobiles were new, computers hadn't been invented and there was far more physical labor, fewer human rights and women rarely were allowed in the workforce. At the turn of the century, teenagers frequently dropped out of school to help support their family (e.g., my grandparents), making their way in the world with only a 6th or 8th grade education. Teen girls were often put into arranged marriages and if someone had an unplanned pregnancy they were shunned and their reputation ruined. From the comments I saw, most people were comparing their childhood to the current teens. But you have a much broader time period you can explore. The world has changed tremendously and I was always fascinated to hear my grandparents telling stories of working their way to California on the railroads when they were in their teens (as a married couple who wed when she was 13 and he was 14 - and their first child ended up with a high fever that changed her from a bright young girl to someone who was mentally challenged. Their second child contracted polio and is disabled to this day and my mother was born 3 months premature in the 1940s, resulting in life long medical problems). (I'm the product of parents who had much older parents and were older when they had me, so most of my grandparents were born in the 1890s and wed in the early 1900s).
Check out my new fanfic. Set in season 3 after the kiss in Knockdown. Goes AU from there. Rated M for mature. I update frequently. And a special thank you to several of my favorite authors who took the time to read and review. Their words and encouragement are amazing. As are all of those who took the time to read, review, follow and favorite my other (now completed) story.
Thank you for answering my question regarding Firefly/Castle fandoms. Sorry if I came across as snotty, I have a hard timeconveying my thoughts with the written word. I don't understand the hatred/disdain because Nathan favors his Firefly experience either. Doesn't everyone have a favorite job? I think some people in fandoms are very sensitive and take everything personally. If you don't like what they like or see the show they way they do it is a personal attack.
No worries, figured we’d gotten our wires crossed somewhere.
And exactly, I think people often forget that this is a job to the cast and crew. They aren’t obligated to behave like fans. I’m sure he likes this job, but I have no issues about the fact he liked his old job more.
I agree there is often a really strange degree of attachment that translates into super-sensitivity that I struggle to relate to. Have a thick skin and shrug it off, I want to tell certain people who post in the relevant tags. Oh well.
Not only do we all have our favorite job or experience, but those of us who've lived awhile have had the experience of something ending before we were ready or before we felt it really had a chance to become what we envisioned. Because Firefly ended its run so quickly, the cast and creators must have felt they really didn't get a chance to fully explore the world and tell the stories they wanted to tell. The fact that they were having so much fun doing it had to make it so much harder for them. And seeing the fan base continuing to grow after its run ended has to make it that much harder to let it go.
But I agree with both of you, fans shouldn't freak out just because he looks back on that time and prefers it. He was what - 29 or 30? Really hitting his stride as an actor, and working with a great director and cast. His love of everything Joss Whedon probably plays into his feelings, but it doesn't take away from the fact that he has also said he loves what he does on Castle. They are different experiences and he has certainly been able to fully develop Castle, whereas Captain Mal was never allowed to mature as a character. That has to be tough for an actor.
Writing my first fan fiction about Caskett. Feeling very humbled by the response to this story. The story is still in progress, so there will be further updates. This one's definitely rated M - so it's not for everyone. The Castle fan base is amazing. Thank you to everyone who has posted a review and encouraged me.
