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Do you think Tim might have infected the people near him, with the sickness he's got from the operator, when in the mental hospital before being released?
Nope! I think that the operator is spread through acts of physical violence and Alex was talking out his ass about Tim being the cause. Tim’s seemingly able to live a normal life for multiple years without anyone else getting fucked over! Alex also has a pathological need to blame other people for his actions, so it makes sense he would latch onto Tim being the problem. it also makes sense for tim to believe him because Tim has like zero self worth haha
Id also argue that Alex and Jessica were definitely both “infected” well before meeting Tim! It's implied that they both saw the operator as young children and were probably particularly fucked from the get go :((
Ngl 95% of the reason I left this fandom was because a loud minority of Brian fans at the time were just both horribly media illiterate and the dominant voices. You don't even like him, you don't even like the source material, you just see something vaguely to project upon without doing any further critical thinking, and you don't do any introspection towards why you feel that way or any work to peel apart the character you claim to be so obsessed with, instead preferring the cardboard cutout of a man you prop up in his place while claiming it is him, all while it doesn't even fit his shadow.
And on top of it, all these people are often ableist if not also classist towards Tim, and bury it under the thin veneer of being a "hater," and any time they are confronted they pretend it is just unfounded harassment, falling back on an array of yes men who equally refuse to think critically.
Anyway, I am watching Marble Hornets again. Intermittently but it is happening.
My headcanon for why Alex is so bad at actually doing the shooting part of pointing a gun at someone, is that he gets a moment of clarity each time that *it's his friends* that he's pointing a gun at, and he gets a glimpse of their college life and can't bring himself to do it
At the time he shoots Jay, he's too far gone in the operator's induced psychosis and paranoia to get any human instincts anymore to even acknowledge that it's *Jay*
Brian should've just used his psych 101 knowledge on this freak or something
the lack of consistency with the skin tone ect with tim is wild. why is his youtooz along with masky the palest skin tone outta everyone in the concepts and then his plushie is literally brown like i have the plush somewhere and he is BROWN.
i feel like more work could be done to actually make sure these are consistent designs across the board esp when they are already aiming to make another youtooz when the masky one hasnt even gone live yet.
ofc working with youtooz at all is rough because they constantly put out terrible quality figures for high prices and have a heavy history of controversies to the point where there was an hour long documentary posted about them. they are also allegedly art stealers and are still selling other creators merch despite being asked to stop after the partnership has ended, and i doubt Troy would want that to happen esp when hes very protective of the marble hornets ip to the point where we cant make any fan merch.
theres also been no confirmation from anyone that tim or brian will see any money despite their exact likenesses being sold as far as i know. i hate to make a direct callout of james troy wagner on public tag but honestly these things need to be clearly addressed.
i just wanna state that i mean no ill will against anyone or to start ANY hate campaigns or major drama with this post, i would just like more public clarity on what is happening
good day, I was reading your Seth Wilson post and it was awesome
you mentioned a Marble Hornets site that had the crews descriptions, I tried looking for it but its seems that its now dead dead like defunct unfortunately :(( , I was wondering if you have any idea where else it could be archived?
The Marble Hornets site has been defunct since forever, do not worry.
Here is a link to the part of the archive you're talking about, anon :-)
does it ever drive you crazy that tim stood up and faced the nightmare that stole his childhood and risked his life for jay? jay, the man who stalked him, lied to him, leaked his medical records online, who dragged tim back into this nightmare, who stood by as his friend broke tim's leg, who left tim and ran when faced with that same faceless danger?
Seth in Marble Hornets is a character of such little substance, only "appearing" in three entries, and only being mentioned really in three. But I want to bring up a detail I find interesting about our mysterious and absentee camera man, one that is driving me up the wall.
Intentionally or not, Seth is a foil to Jay.
Jay is a character who, whenever we see him on screen in the college era is quiet and subdued, almost becoming a fly on the wall.⁽¹⁾⁽²⁾ He has moments where he talks to people of course, but he also avoids them, only really choosing to make a connection with Alex as his "script supervisor," but otherwise avoids it.⁽³⁾ The only reason we as the audience know there's more depth to him, is because he is our protagonist, consuming so much of the time on the screen in the series, letting us in on his worldview, explaining his thought process to us and why he does the things he does. In doing so, he becomes known.
Seth by contrast though is, nothing. We literally know nothing about him, I would argue even less than we know about Sarah because we at least see her getting fed up with Alex, there's a personality there. But Seth? He has a dog, but what else? Let's just look at the entries he debatably is in, because in the ones he is mentioned in he is a brief forgettable remark but what about the others?
Seth Wilson shows up in Entries #9, possibly #20, #22 and briefly #54.
In Entry #9, he is the camera man, and subdued and quiet even when Alex is yelling at him, requiring Tim and Sarah to come to his defense as he is berated by Alex.⁽⁴⁾ Seth himself barely says anything though by contrast, besides remarking that he just "forgot for a second," about Alex's filming rule around [1:56]. He does try to briefly defend his decision at around [2:15], but ultimately capitulates and apologizes to Alex at the end, and while we see at least that Sarah and Tim don't like the treatment of their camera man, he is rather quiet himself.
Meanwhile, in Entry #22 and #20, while both are presumably entries where Seth is filming, in the latter due to him being the sole cameraman mentioned for Marble Hornets⁽⁵⁾ and the former because of Alex saying his name, we never hear Seth himself talk, as he is instead a silent, living breathing camera stand. He gives no thoughts or pushback or opinions, but rather just breathes and holds his camera at the ready, letting us forget he is there.
And then, in Entry #54, at [2:55,] we see Seth, Tim and Jay all run through the rain, and they talk briefly, but only before both Jay and Seth just, separately and very quickly leave, while Tim goes to hangout with Alex and Brian.
Yet, despite all this lack of personhood, we do have Seth do something that hints at a personality, something strange that I can't make sense of. Because, for some reason after all, in Entry #22, Seth follows Alex into a dark scary basement at night, and barely raises an objection we can hear, while Alex seemingly describes... some sort of violent event, which is almost impossible to parse through the corruption.
But here's the thing, maybe Seth is secretly judgmental, maybe he is apathetic, maybe he is also in love with Alex Kralie, maybe he doesn't care about any of the cast. The simple matter of the fact is we don't know, but this absence is exactly what fascinates me, because despite it, we see him doing exactly what Jay does, and it is just that Seth obviously never edited to then uploaded these tapes so we don't know him in the same way we do Jay. He is a blank slate, while we know too much and too well of Jay's awful habits and behaviors. (Such as, you know, breaking and entering, his lying, his shitty attempts to manipulate people, his unending and often problematic thirst for knowledge.)
Jay is our friend throughout the series, the person to drip feeds us information and continuously drags us into his worldview, but Seth is such a nobody that Jay forgets him.⁽⁶⁾ Yet both are listed next to each other on the "Marble Hornets" website, both with [coming soon] as their bio.⁽⁷⁾ Both are cameramen with a habit of fading into the background. Both are foolish enough to follow Alex Kralie into abandoned buildings under the most bizarre of pretenses.
But who are you, Seth Wilson?
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Citations
1) In Entry #17, Jay is there but kinda quiet and awkward, ultimately fulfilling a rather quiet role. He barely talks outside of reading the lined and more so is just there to do stuff for Alex.
2) In Entry #5, it is much of the same, with them location scouting and Jay just dutifully following Alex around. We see bits of his curiosity and nosiness, but is ultimately just an extra pair of hands for Alex, he isn't as opinionated as we know him to be.
3) In Entry #54, at 3:25, after it seemingly unexpectedly comes down pouring during a shoot, Jay, Tim and Seth run for cover, with Seth leaving right before Jay says: "Well, I guess I don’t really have a reason to be here anymore either since I guess we’re done."
Tim says a bit before that Alex will be back in a "little bit," but Jay does not stick around to greet him or help or whatever, even though Tim says "we are just going to be wrapping up" right after, instead turning tail.
He could've easily stayed to help with at least the filming aspect, and spent time with Tim and Brian too by proxy, but he avoids this entirely.
4) In Entry #9, tensions are high from the beginning as Sarah and Tim commiserate, but it is Sarah who initially gets Tim and Alex to stop fighting when they start, where at [1:32] she agrees "Let's just do [the take] again" as Tim and Alex both start to raise their voices.
It is also initially Sarah who comes to Seth's defense though at [2:33] where she says "Guys, calm down," when Alex starts yelling, followed by "It was just a mistake!" about Seth turning off the camera to preserve tape when Alex continues to.
Even before then though I would argue she tries to defuse the situation by asking for a script, trying to distract from the mistake. And Tim joins in on her defending Seth and arguing with Alex, but I would argue that more comes from spite/dislike for Alex than anything. I don't know, there is something between Seth and Sarah even if they're just friends, but we will never know what probably.
I put a foot note here though because I just wanted to point that out.
5 and 7) There was an [old website for Marble Hornets] (Alex Kralie's student film) that no longer exists but on it listed the members of the film and their roles. I made a post about it [here] and you can read more about what I found on it there.
6) Ok technically he mentions him in the sense he shows a clip of Alex saying "Seth is Gone" after, but its so funny to me that in Entry #51 he only mentions Brian and Tim by name at [8:12] when he writes, "Did Alex lead everyone to a place like this and leave them there like he did with Brian, and possibly Tim?"
He just assumes Alex let Tim there. No Seth mention, who we saw actually being led somewhere weird and suspicious. No Sarah mention either.
Crazy cool that people are making ableist jokes about the character who is extremely coded to have DID (a very demonized disorder that people often claim is fake)
