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Fiveās random semblance/parallel with his siblings: diego
Thinking about... Kissing that old man.
Loving and cherishing that old man.
Tenderly stroking that old man's hair.
Resting my head on that old man's chest.
But yes fucking him also.
Five "if I can't fuck my brother I'll fuck his wife" Hargreeves
Been pinning way too long over Diego, that the closest thing he'll ever have will be Lila.
Lucky for him tho, Lila is good at making Diego happy and she knows for a fact that Diego also wants Five that way so it's a good thing the two of them fell in love so that they can be a happy throuple ā„ļøā„ļøā„ļø
Diego gushing about Five when Patch asks if heās been seeing anyone lately:
Guys guys! I finally have an answer to the Diego-Lila-Five problem.
OT3 BABEY, HERE WE GO FIEGOLA
We ain't leaving Diego behind, get that man fucked by his brother and wife! My boy needs the love!!!!
letās talk about TUA fandom
yāall are hypocritical - letās just get it out there.
before you start typing out some angry comments or coming in my ask-box lemme explain my reasoning here.
LUTHER HARGREEVES
Luther is one of the most hated characters in this fandom for some unknown reason to me. He is just another victim in all of this and as much as all of you want to blame everything on his actions, he simply acted in what he thought were the best interests of everyone. Luther showed his trauma in the same way the rest did.
In my opinion, Luther is one of the most underrated characters in The Umbrella Academy because all of you are too busy with your thirsting after Diego or uWu-ing over Klaus to notice him.
So here is Lutherās trauma broken down for all of you.Ā
Luther was doomed from the moment he was chosen to be Number One, itās that simple. From the very moment Reginald chose him, he had no chance, because he had the expectation of being the best put on his shoulders by a man who was never going to see any of them as anything less than worthless.
But Luther was determined to live up to his name, to be what his father wanted him to be ā to be Number One.
Because for Luther he was sure everything that Reginald was doing was out of love. But I think Luther deep down knew that their father didnāt love them, but he needed to believe it was out of love, he couldnāt stand the thought of it being anything but love, because if it wasnāt love then it wasnāt worth it. He needed it to be worth it.
We got a glimpse of that in season one when he found all the packages he sent to Reginald. He never had any friends, he never left the house, he gave up his entire life for his father and the mission he believed in. Because he needed to believe it was worth it and when he found out it wasnāt ā well, he had thrown his entire life away for what? It wasnāt because their father loved them or believed in them. So what was it?
Just to prove to all of you that Luther is more like his siblings than you all want to admit, here are some comparisons -Ā
LUTHER: needed the moon to have a reason behind it, so much so that his obsession put others in danger. He also couldnāt face it when it turned out his mission was for nothing - so he regressed to his old behavior of thinking his father was right.
DIEGO: needed to be the hero, even though Iām almost positive Diego isnāt a complete idiot and knows that dramatically changing history would be bad - aka saving JFK could make the timeline explode, he needed to save him. So much so he was willing to put all of his siblings in jeopardy.
LUTHER: was told from the beginning he was the leader and that being Number One meant that he had to be the best. Because of this he had an inflated sense of importance. It just meant he had a higher distance to fall when he finally realized that it all meant nothing. He also doesnāt take their opinions or plans seriously because heās Number One and his plans are superior.
FIVE: is a cocky little shit, who is insistent he is the smartest person around and he might be. But he views everyone around him as lesser, that includes his siblings. He has spent his entire time in the apocalypse trying to get back to save his siblings but still treats them like garbage. He also never lets his siblings in on anything thatās happening, he never sits them down and explains anything, and when they try to contribute with a plan or a theory he looks at them like they are stupid.Ā
LUTHER: was sent to the moon, alone, with no one to talk to. Before that he had no friends his age, his only companions were Grace, his father, and Pogo. Heās been alone for a long time.
VANYA: has been alone for a lot longer than Luther - but trauma is not a competition and they both have dealt with it differently. I just wanted to point out these two similarities between the two characters.
LUTHER: is desperate for love and affection from his father. Everything he has done has been to get Reginalds approval and love but none of it has ever worked. He got small glimpses of things, like his dadās favorite spot under a tree, so maybe he got a bit closer than the others but it was not real love.
ALLISON: is desperate for love and affection in general - hence her stardom. She needs attention, she feeds on it. It isnāt until she has Claire that I think she truly understands that everything until then has been fake. The unconditional love of a child made her realize that all of that fake love and affection is no match for real love.
LUTHER: has probably felt like a monster since before his transformation - having super-strength means having to be very careful with your own body. But after the transformation mustāve been so much worse.Ā
BEN: literally has a monster inside of him and has always felt like a monster. The difference is he has openly spoken about feeling like a monster.
LUTHER: has always been in control of himself. He is the exact opposite of Klaus in how he uses control to deal with trauma. Luther needs control in order to deal with trauma.
KLAUS: has no control and he does not want it. To deal with trauma Klaus loses control by using drugs and alcohol but he also uses it to control his powers.
So now that Iāve gotten through the siblings a bit, letās talk about another topic that has a bit of hypocrisy behind it -
ALLISON X LUTHER
For some reason this ship is very despised in the fandom, I donāt know if itās because of the fact that one part of it is Luther but a lot of the reasons I see are just - āew, theyāre siblingsā.Ā
Yet, most of the ships in TUA fandom are of the siblings being paired together.
Five x Vanya [fics on ao3 - 372]
Diego x Klaus [fics on ao3 - 687]
Ben x Klaus [fics on ao3 - 311]
The only other ships that top these are -
Dave x Klaus [fics on ao3 - 1409]
Diego x Patch [fics on ao3 - 434]
And letās be really honest for a second here - them being in any romantic relationship with each other, is not weird. None of them are biologically related to one another. They were just raised in the same household as one another and told to treat each other as siblings. If they had never been adopted by Reginald Hargreeves and met randomly on the side of the road, this discussion would be moot.Ā
I find the Five x Vanya ship much more disturbing if Iām being honest, simply because most of the fics ship a fully grown Vanya, in the body of a 31-ish year old, with Five - who while mentally is like in his 60s or whatever, is back in his 13 year old body. If Vanya did ever get with Five before his body turned 18, it would be statutory rape.
Letās also just for a second list some other fandom pairings that are pretty popular that people ship that have the same āwe grew up as siblings but we arenāt biologically relatedā trope.
Thor x Loki [fics on ao3 - 10894]
Eren x Mikasa [fics on ao3 - 1221]
John Marston x Arthur Morgan [fics on ao3 - 651]
Max x Alec [fics on ao3 - 357]
Iris x Barry [fics on ao3 - 3689]
Itās incredibly strange to me how unpopular Allison x Luther is - especially since itās actually canon in the comics. Granted, some things from the comics of course should change or be adapted, but the chemistry between Tom Hopper and Emmy Raver-Lampman is just spectacular, especially during the dance scene in The Day That Wasnāt.
I absolutely loved that scene (still mad itās nowhere on youtube). I felt like we got to see Luther both as how Allison sees him and for a moment he was out of his head with Allison, relaxed and just himself.Ā
If you just donāt ship it, just say you donāt ship it.Ā
FINAL THOUGHTS
Alright. I think my duty as a member of the Luther-Protection squad is finished. If you canāt see your hypocrisy after this post, I really donāt know what to tell you. If you would like to have a calm discussion about why you think Iām wrong or right, Iām willing to talk about it. However, anyone who comes at me just spewing vitriol or that Iām so stupid will not be taken seriously, if you canāt have a calm discussion about things then I wonāt take you seriously.Ā
I do want to say though - I understand having favorite characters, Iām a sucker for characters that are only held back from destroying the world by a hug (Vanya). But Iām also someone who loves to look at the entire picture and appreciate the depth of each character in a series, even the ones I hate. In fact - some of my favorite characters were ones I hated and the actors/actresses soon became my favorite because it takes a lot of talent to make people hate you.
So for a moment, really think if you hate Luther Hargreeves or if you dislike his actions and if itās his actions, who you really should hate is Reginald Hargreeves because all Luther has ever done has been a reaction to trauma - exactly like the rest of his siblings.
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yes, babe, you're sick and twisted, will you come back to bed- what? yes, of course you're evil and irredeemable. now can you please cuddle with me
Hey you, yeah you, fic writer who keep using 'dimpling' everytime Five's smiling, ily
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i literally only live for ONE ship trope / dynamic and i have made my tastes and loyalty to this dynamic very known
How problematic is your tua ship?
0 - Entirely unproblematic. Visssy, and klave for example are neither incest nor in any way unhealthy, also gay so yay for them
1 - Perfect, if not for that one thing. Be it incest or slight toxicity, they aren't that bad and with a slight adjustment, you can write entirely Pure fanfiction about them. Prime example is Klaus/Diego. Diego/Lila also fits in here because they are half-incest, half-toxic. I'd put Five/Dolores here too, because she's.. you know...
2 - Ships that are problematic, but meh, you do you (im sure you're working through some trauma). Like Klaus/Ben - they have an ok relationship, but its incest, also a little bit mmmmmmmmean and non-consent-y. Also Leonard/Vanya, because that was some manipulation and definitely fucked.
3 - This ship will get you anon hate, and will enrage people with how messed up it is. Ex: Luther/Allison- not only do they call the same person daddy, they have some very fucked up codependency/living in the past thing going on, how can you think they could ever be happy together?
4- Straight up messed up, due to context, but would be an a-ok relationship in an AU where everything is different. You will get death threats. Most Five ships go here, Fiveya, Five/Diego, Five/Klaus - they'd be fine, honestly, if it wasn't for the incest and the 13 Again thing, they are very moral and healthy ships.
5- Unforgivable, you are going to jail and then to hell for it. Five/Handler - Bad Vibes all over, from the workplace harassment to the general harassment and murderous intent, to the kid body thing. This ship is so toxic i genuinely think incest is the more moral choice.
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Modern fandom went awry when people stopped learning how to avoid content that upsets them and instead starting actively seeking it out.
I mean this in the kindest, most loving way possible, but babes you'll be so much happy when you stop focusing on what other people are doing and instead focus on what you like.
You'll never be able to stop people from liking what you hate, and the best way you'll find any peace of mind is properly utilizing blocking, blacklisting, and muting tools. Take it from someone who used to run a shipping discourse blog, fandom is supposed to be what you enjoy, stop focusing on things that upset you.