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And in case you haven’t seen Staged:
this is hilarious, i took this screencap the other day and im still laughing about it
Yes! This is what inspired me, but I didn’t save it and couldn’t find it again 😅😂
And thank you 🥰✨
Actually this was the exact one I saw 😅 🍍 🌟
And....
Aziraphale had been working his socks off to make the second coming a good thing. Universal happiness. From what we saw from Jesus' time on earth, he could have pulled it off. But no, the creator, and we're not talking God, the writer(s) chose to have Michael go rouge and kill everyone.
So Az wasn't the useless idiot everyone is making him out to be.
I really don’t understand why we cannot discuss the problems with the plot of this finale or ask questions about it without being waved off or told to move on or stop talking about it or demonized (🙃).
We analyzed every single frame of the Final Fifteen for almost three years.
We never stopped presenting our cases and bickering and passionately arguing about what element meant what right up until the eve of the finale. Suffice it to say I will be dissecting the media with a scalpel
I've seen people saying You can stop engaging with the media, you don't have to be so hateful 🙄
Brøthër
Apparently it's only a problem to analyze things when the consensus is that, under more scrutiny and objectively speaking, the product is ass
Critical thinking is at an all time low and some people really want it to stay that way for their own peace of mind, I swear to Gawd
The nail on the head, people don't use their brain anymore. But AI or any of that other crap isn't an issue, noooo
Or they just lie to themselves just to be able to keep positive. I should know, I did that for the first 2 days after it came out, I couldn't process it being that bad
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We can learn a lot about this.
Lately, it's no longer possible to have a civil discussion with those who think differently. Everyone immediately takes it personally, gets offended or insults you.
This worries me greatly because, as introverted as I am (and so are others), human beings are social animals. And discussing different points of view is the foundation of our behavior.
If this happens with a TV show, imagine what it would be like with other things.
What people fails to understand is that what is worthy of respect is the people, not their opinions. Opinions are there to be discussed, not to be worshipped.
Respect people, not their opinions. Debate the opinions. Thinking differently is not an attack on the other person, but a defence of your own thinking.
As long as you respect the other person (and they respect you) we should be able to have discussions peacefully.
very happy ending that you can describe using words like annihilation and evaporated
I absolutely HATED the final episode, but the scene in the garden/bookshop was so pretty 💔
Cosign.
would you rather
seduce him
get the truth about the finale out of him
Okay, more thoughts on why Aziraphale isn’t colder or less committed to the relationship than Crowley, because portraying Crowley as some sort of an injured party bothers me.
The thing is, I know where the tendency comes from - it’s easy to focus on Crowley’s way of showing affection (aka acts of service) more since it’s more visible at first sight, more obvious to an outsider. But some people tend to follow this fact with the conclusion that it’s therefore stronger than Aziraphale’s way of showing affection for some reason. And. I can’t help but think that it’s pretty unfair to Aziraphale’s struggles. Because he not only has different ways of showing affection than Crowley to begin with, but also is much more repressed and conflicted about their relationship than Crowley is. (And Crowley knows it! That’s the point, Crowley remembers Heaven, he was there once. He’s patient because he understands.)
Aziraphale’s way of showing affection is less visible for people on the outside and much more intimate. It’s easy to underestimate how hard it is to leave your comfort zone for someone, which is what he does all the time, because it’s less showy. But it’s not right. And if someone wants to feel sorry for Crowley for having to be patient then it only seems to be fair to also feel sorry for Aziraphale for being so torn between Crowley and Heaven. But that’s the best part - for both of them commitment to the relationship comes with a price, but they still choose to do it anyway. Over the years they really learned each other, even if Aziraphale won’t admit to it and instead will say “I am an angel, you are a demon”. He’s not stupid. They both understand each other’s language and know what certain things mean.
Someone on here (I’ll be damned if I remember where I read it, sorry) described their dynamic as Aziraphale inviting Crowley to invite him and it’s so accurate. That’s exactly what he does, not because he’s too lazy/reluctant/whatever to commit, but because he’s too conflicted with himself to make a direct move. But instead he lets Crowley know that if Crowley asks, he will say yes and it’s So Important. Because Aziraphale seems passive when in reality he makes a huge effort to dance around all his dilemmas. And the fact that Crowley doesn’t have those dilemmas doesn’t make them any more valid.
And let’s be honest. “It would destroy you”? The way he looks at Crowley in that car in 1967 and you can literally see how hard it was for him to bring Crowley something that could destroy him because he can’t imagine his life without Crowley in it? Those are really huge gestures but they’re quieter because the bigger parts of those gestures happened inside Aziraphale, if that phrasing makes sense. It’s all less obvious because it’s internal (and, I cannot stress this enough, Crowley knows it. His situation is not as tragic as some people paint it to be. He sees it all and chooses Aziraphale over and over, which in my opinion makes it all much more mature and #married). Aziraphale’s signs of affection are less about what others can see and more about what happens in his mind and heart, and how willing he is to step out of his comfort zone, and how willing he is to submit himself to even more internal conflict just to spend time with Crowley. And if you ask me, that’s a whole fucking lot of love right there.
All of the above.
Their relationship is difficult to quantify because it’s 6000 years old. They don’t need to guess anymore, they know each other, and the thing is, Crowley isn’t stupid. Tempting people is literally his job. But to be able to tempt people you have to be able to read people.
Crowley knows full well that Aziraphale wants to spend time with him. He knew that when Aziraphale chose to take part in the Arrangement. He knew that when Aziraphale gave him the Holy Water. When Azirphale didn’t abandon him after he delivered the Antichrist. When they drink and dine and meet up together. That’s Aziraphale’s language of love: time. He has a literal limitless supply.
Crowley even takes his glasses, his barrier to the world, off around Aziraphale. That does not indicate someone who’s insecure about their angel friend being scared off by reminders of their demonic essence. Crowley is absolutely not insecure in his relationship (however you define it) with Aziraphale.
What we see on screen with the ‘we can run away together’ and trying to go to Alpha Centauri is not insecurity that Aziraphale doesn’t love him, it’s sheer panic that they have to act now and if they don’t they are going to die along with the whole of Earth because he fucked up.
That’s not an ‘I’m scared he doesn’t love me’ reaction, that’s a ‘we are going to die and need to get away now’ reaction. Crowley is terrified, [and to be honest, if I’d just double-crossed and lied to Satan’s face for eleven years, I’d be pretty scared too], and all he’s thinking is ‘we need to go.’
Aziraphale is digging his heels in, but that’s not because he doesn’t love him, that’s because everything’s moving too fast, Heaven’s changing and he doesn’t know how to fool the new Heaven, and Crowley - ironically the most stable and unchanging of the two in this sense - is also shifting annd changing all over the place - and he doesn’t know how to make them work together anymore, so hides.
There were probably times over the 6,000 years of their relationship where Crowley felt the pain of Aziraphale holding back. Times when he wanted so badly to march up and do something so that Aziraphale would be forced to reciprocate or make his feelings plain; Times when he wanted to storm off and never see the angel again because he was so stupid and stubborn. Times he probably shouted into his pillow that he hated Aziraphale even though he knew the opposite was true.
But the thing is, whatever pain he felt, he worked through it a long time ago. Every plan to force the issue, he abandoned because he knew it wasn’t right. Every argument, even the big one in the 1860s, they eventually made their peace and moved forward.
By the time we get to the present, this isn’t a bitter, lost Crowley wounded by Aziraphale’s reluctance. This is the loving, patient Crowley who knows what he feels, and is ready to meet Aziraphale on whatever terms the angel needs to be comfortable.
A huge massive yes to all of this!!!
Crowley’s peace with it all, his patience, is so absolutely clear in his reaction to the “get three behind me foul fiend!” comment.
He isn’t hurt, or angry or surprised. There’s no sting to it. There’s a weariness there (oh this shit again *yawn*) but also an amusement (oh this shit again.. ha! You are cute when you lie, angel- you really think you believe this shit don’t you? You silly thing…). He’s just rolling with the punches and seems content to keep doing so until Aziraphale works it through.
He only stops rolling with the punches when Armageddon looms and they are out of time. I think so many struggle to understand pre-Armageddon Crowley’s patience and peace because as humans we are always out of time. Death, the ultimate deadline, hangs above our heads. And death means that there’s a ticking clock on all of our other life goals. Want to buy a nice cottage in South Downs with your soul mate one day? Or travel the world together? Or open a joint bookshop? Well, tick tock… Better find and secure them fast enough to have time for all of that. Plus, for many humans love comes with the ticking clock of fertility. If you do want children and you want to have those children with your soul mate you have what a decade and a half or so from coming of age to find and secure said soul mate or risk the children thing not happening? How insane is that? No wonder we can’t imagine patiently keeping “I love you” unsaid while our soul mate works out their shit. But….until Amageddon creates a ticking clock Crowley has all the time in the world to be slow and patient and to be at peace with that, to actually enjoy the slow dance. And I think, moments of frustration and insecurity aside, he does enjoy the slow dance with Aziraphale. He is savouring it.
Absolutely.
And that’s the difference between a normal, human slow burn and the Ineffable 6,000 Year Slow Burn.
The regrets, the ticking clock on human relationships, comes from the possibility of missed opportunities. How many of those can you truly say there are when both parties are immortal?
There will always be another sunset to watch together, another restaurant to dine at. There will be more ducks to feed.
It does make you wonder what the real regrets would be. Things like, “I wish we could have shared the view from the walls of Troy.”
Idk. I should probably stop before I come up with six more ideas for stories. 😆
I know people are tired of me. But, no I don’t think Aziraphale was repressed. And I don’t think Crowley was ‘waiting patiently’. What the hell.
They never could have had more than they did???
Aziraphale loved Crowley fiercely and protectively. He made them a home where Crowley was safe! He pulled back when Crowley was pushing too far and too fast and Crowley did the same! In Bastille and in 1941.
Aziraphale never seems passive to me. Neither does his love. He shows it with trust (“I gave it away!”) and all the times they meet he does again. If he didn’t love Crowley why would he put himself in danger?
Hell would not have cared Crowley hang out with an angel, he could excuse it in million ways, tempting him etc. What did Aziraphale have? Fear that they will be discovered and punished. And we know he was right. Michael immediately checks files when they suspect Aziraphale is working with Hell.
Honestly I am baffled that so many people think that Crowley’s love is clearer than Aziraphale’s. To me, Aziraphale’s love and protectiveness are so much more obvious.
Also, I think they were hurt exactly the same by the fact that they could not be together. It’s not just ‘poor Crowley’, aw so patient.
Why is everyone treating Crowley as the main character? Stop it.
He’s just rolling with the punches and seems content to keep doing so until Aziraphale works it through.
No. Aziraphale and Crowley are playing games, EQUAL games. They know they cannot have more. BOTH of them. Crowley is not waiting for Aziraphale to catch up. Aziraphale calls him foul fiend because he needs to add a layer of 'technically’, a plausible deniability.
What do people think about their relationship anyway? This? That Aziraphale could have just dropped 'Heaven’ at any time and move in with Crowley? That their sides and jobs and god would just LET THEM?
Anyway, if you are interested:
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Good Omens is a Transformative Work
It has been since the very beginning.
NG (fuck NG) thought of a book plot where a demon finds himself in The Omen movie. But he screws up the baby switch. And the Antichrist grew up as a character in a Richmal Crompton novel. He didn't know what to do with it next. TP offered to buy the story. He changed the demon into a demon and an angel defying their bosses on the earth they both loved. He added his smart whimsy and gave the story a moral core far beyond a silly spoof. When the story was written, queer kids saw themselves in the angel and demon based on the subtext. Because they lived in subtext. Gender fluid and trans readers created stories about an angel and demon for whom gender was a choice depending on how or whether they decided to make an effort. The strangeness of fitting into a planet dominated by beings the angel and demon differed from spoke to neurodivergent readers.
Religious readers found healing after years of struggling to make sense of doctrine divorced from morality. Some ace and aro readers saw the deep and meaningful relationship beyond romance between a pair together over 6000 years. And tons of horny people from all walks of life poured their hearts into smut that made the most of beings whose bodies allowed for a range of sexual practice that would never be realistic for humans.
People who felt rejected or unloved because they were "too much" or "too little", took solace from an angel who didn't mind the gruffness of the demon who couldn't bear to be cruel. And the demon who liked the angel being a little bit of a bastard. If an angel and demon could care for and accept each other for themselves, perhaps it could happen for them too? This is why the Good Omens fandom is so special. Transformation has been baked into his story from the very beginning. Biblical fan fiction, a collaborative story by two authors, a tv show/movie brought to life by a team of actors, designers, writers... And now also entire worlds of fan fiction and art. Good Omens continues to transform itself and the people who love it. And it will always be ours as we continue to transform it for generations to come.
I wrote this 2 years ago. Maybe it's time to reblog?
Aziraphale modeling one of the Seven Deadly Sins "Gluttony".
Artist credit: Blinchik Norly (@BlinchikNorly): https://twitter.com/BlinchikNorly?s=09
Oh and also, let me tell you what really fucking pisses me off.
The focus on the angel that Crowley was before the fall.
If my best friend (female) went up to god and said “I’m the second best woman there ever was” and when asked who the first best woman was, came to me (trans man) and said “this one right here” I think I’d nuke something. I’m not a woman anymore, and I haven’t been for the longest time. My best friend knew me before I came out and has never been anything but supportive. Translate that dynamic to Crowley and Aziraphale and it just feels like Aziraphale is ignoring who Crowley IS, and does everything that he does for who Crowley WAS.
His “we can be angels together” moment in season 2 works because he’s deluded, blinded by the promise of an ideal life. It’s supposed to hurt. But in a show finale, to have one half of a duo only praise who the other half USED to be,,? Feels icky to me
I’m not saying it’s a transphobic metaphor or anything, I’m just using personal experience to describe how it makes me feel.
Finale!Aziraphale (who is a completely different character to me; I reject him) doesn’t give a damn about the Crowley he spent the last several millennia caring for and that pisses me off beyond belief
The end of the wall shove scene in technicolour XD
good news everyone
Crowley: “I wish for my miracling powers back.”
God: “Okey dokey, done.”
Crowley: “Miracle time, angel, let’s fucking go.”
Aziraphale: “Miracle?”
Crowley: “Together. No holding back.”
A: (catching on) “Oh, yes! We can channel remarkable power together!”
(They hold hands)
God: (suddenly regretting this) “Wait what”
A: “Thank you both for your services, but they’re no longer required. Cheerio.”
C: (huge toothy grin) “Wasn’t nice knowing you. At all.”
(They move their free hands, just as God and Satan are both lunging toward them; screen flashes white, holds there)
And instead of the human AU, we use that time to have Crowley and Aziraphale strolling through that blankness together, discussing the parameters of rekindled existence without Heaven and Hell. They decide to allow their fellow angels and demons to be resurrected as shepherds, guiding human souls to redemption after death.
Closing scene is cozy domesticity in the bookshop, maybe a brief consult with Dagon and Uriel about a specific human soul, A and C give them sage advice to guide the soul toward an epiphany of empathy and compassion. They look out the window together at a restored Whickber Street, arms around each other’s waists, A rests his head on C’s shoulder, long pan back, ROLL CREDITS
VAVOOM, SORTED, LOVE FUCKING WINS YOU UNBELIEVABLE TOSSERS
WHEN SOMETHING PRECIOUS IS BROKEN, YOU DON’T THROW IT AWAY — YOU PUT IN THE TIME AND THE CARE AND THE WORK TO FIX IT.
(Brian taught us this, in Season 1.)
A REPLACEMENT, HOWEVER CUTE, IS NOT THE SAME AND IS NEVER ENOUGH. IT. DOESN’T COUNT.
(Job and Sitis taught us this, in Season 2.)
The world was broken…the world they loved so much. And instead of fixing it, they threw it away for the sake of a new world of replacements. A world they themselves couldn’t even participate in. Doppelgängers are not originals — a cute human AU doesn’t count as a happy ending.
They died. And they didn’t even save the world doing it.
I will never be okay. 💔
If you want to “shock your audience” maybe you should just try writing a good story.
Preach
Movement nudge, getting up off the floor!
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real talk, i saw this other vid 7 years ago where a trainer like this lady gave some of the most important physical health advice I ever heard that changed my life:
#1. You should be able to lay down on the floor (face down or back) and be able to get up without your hands. If you can't? Spend a little bit every day just doing that, laying on the floor and getting up again no hands style, then laying down again (you'd be surprised how fast it wears you out after a few times)
#2. You should be able to get up out of a chair without using your hands or grabbing on to anything. Can't? Fucking start training mother fucker! Just a few uppies every day could save your damn life when you get older!
#3. You should be able to turn your neck to the side without twisting your upper body in the same direction, you should be able to turn your head freely without moving your shoulders, chest or torso! Start looking up loosy goosy neck exercises! It makes such a HUGE difference!
#4. You should be able to motherfucking stand on one foot and keep your balance for longer then 15 seconds. Haha sounds easy right? Thats what I thought when I tried after watching that vid, i was horrified to find how hard it was! I started doing "one leggy style" standing any chance I got, when I'm in line somewhere, when I'm watching a video... just do a few rounds of 10 seconds on each leg for like 5 min every day!
You get older and you think you still have all the same limberness as you did when you were 8, but whens the last fucking time you ran around and played like an 8 year old? You loose that flexibility so subtlety and then one day when you need it? BAM ITS GONE
Start getting into these habits now, i don't care if you're 18/25/30/45/50 OR WHATEVER JUST START YOU WON'T REGRET IT!
