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this is the only long marker gijinka I want to be seeing on my fyp
are there any other genetics nerds in the osc? cuz idc if there arent im explaining what ive come up with for the armlessness gene anyways!! :D ok so its a complete dominant gene typically represented by an A/a & the dominant gene is having arms (A) & the receive gene is armlessness (a) so for example:
an object with AA as their genome would have arms, an object with Aa as their genome would also have arms, & an object with aa as their genome wouldnt have arms
ty for listening to my ted talk :D
oooooooooooooh i've been inspired :D
so i think a lot of people in the osc would assume that most if not all object shows take place on the same planet - earth (or some version of it). The problem i've had with this idea is that it didn't really make sense to me that some objects had human names like in hfjone because it sticks out compared to other object shows. Why do they have personal names?
So my theory (headcanon) is that, in history, objects had solely object names. This worked pretty well - there was little confusion between people because there were only small populations. if you know everyone in your small town or village you'd easily know to avoid choosing a haybale as your child if there was already someone you knew like that. (I mean it might not have been such a big deal your parents were dead set on that object and if the other person was about to die... but i'm going on a tangent.)
anyways, as populations grew with the advent of the Industrial/Mechanical Revolution there became a real need for personal names. cities grew rapidly in size and if you didn't want your kid being perpetually confused with some other person of the same object you've never met then you would need some way to distinguish them.
Therefore personal names emerged, treated similarly to first/middle names in real life. They would initiallly be based off of the person's object themself. In real life, some names are just straight based off of objects, like Edgar, which means 'rich spear', or Peter, which means 'rock'. So a javelin or a geode could take/be given those names to disambiguate them in case of a mix-up. As time went on they just became whatever sounded nice, though this way of choosing names would still be popular. Object names started to function more like surnames as a result, but this would definitely vary depending on the community, culture or time period just like in the original post.
So why don't we see this in most object shows?
One reason might be to protect the privacy of the casts. Like BFDI is canonically watched as a show in-universe, so the cast would probably be treated as celebrities. So they refer to each other as their given object names on-screen so they don't get doxxed or something. Maybe they share their names with each other off-screen if they're close and just don't use it during a challenge. (IDFB kinda breaks this rule but i'm doing the best i can ok T_T)
Another reason is that other shows like II or Filed2B (would really recommend btw) have the objects be created by another object. What i'm trying to get at is that shows like these probably don't adhere to the same cultural norms since the objects in them were not 'birthed' in the traditional sense, so this doesn't really apply to them.
i have sooooo many things in drafts but i'm too nervous to post them lol
Happy (late woops) 17776 day! Also, Yay object shows! surprised no one has made this connection yet.
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FALSE. Its ECKS not ECKZ. X isn’t pronounced with a Z at the end…
that s makes a z sound,,, eckz,,, its eckz,,,
ITS NOT ECKZ
I need you to look me in the eyes and tell me that you pronounce the end of “X” the same way as the start of zebra. You won’t
big things happening in the alphabet community
guys I don't think bfdia is on Netflix 😔
I feel like passing out
let’s explain Lightning’s weird lightning powrds
first thing is that lightning is not actual lightning, just hang onto me for this. Lightning is composed of two layers:
The electric layer
The rubbery layer
The electric layer is where all the electricity stuff happens, it’s all made of electrocytes pigmented yellow for warning displays I guess. These electrocytes are a little more violent than their real word counterpart because they’re so many of them! Anyways yeah you get a nasty shock if you touch this area.
The rubber layer is the protective coating to all of Lightning’s internal stuff, and also is a protective ring around the eyes, where the limbs connect and also a protective coating around the mouth and gums. It’s so that lightning doesn’t end up burning his CNS to char, cuz woo boy that’s a lot of volts. I’m assuming so because I’m not looking at the wiki right now, because my head hurts.
So what about the lightning he makes? The lightning strikes.
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watch this
Throughout Lightning’s body is a series of thin tubes made of Silica, all connected to this ring that most CO2 diffuses into from blood vessels, still some CO2 is breathed out but is very little. The CO2, now a gas, is left standing in these tubes and this serves as a medium for light, produced by a highly powerful version of luciferin and luciferase. This bright light produced is focused through the silica, the silica acting as a lens.
Basically lightning just made lasers and these lasers leave the tubes and escape into the surrounding air, ionising particles. These straight lines of ionised particles act as channels for electricity, discharged from nearby electrocytes, to travel along and thus produce a lightning strike. Much of this idea (the whole laser to lightning part) I got from a reddit comment about firing biological lightning.
All of this is happening in milliseconds mind you, probably faster.
Also some food for thought:
Lightning’s species, or most likely ancestors or ancient species of lightning, probably hunted mainly objects composed of conductive metals. Since their prey had a shell of conductive metal, they were basically wearing armour that would fry their CNS to bits. Maybe they were easy prey because of that.
Lightning’s species are probably apex predators believe it or not
so we know objects can hear stuff. What about noses? Freesmart (and golfball in bfdi 1a) repeatedly call spongy smelly so they have to be able to smell odours one way or another.
Also that thing cheesy did in s4e5 lol
Compared to the rest of their bodies, an object’s face is softer, much more flexible and has a musculature alike to a human’s, so very complex. Otherwise they wouldn’t be able to express the way they do, now would they?
This point is useful for an object’s nostrils. An object’s nostrils, in my eyes, would have to be like finely thin slits, so fine they don’t look present when you look at their faces. When air is taken in through the nasal region, the nostrils open into a circular shape.
How their nostrils are always staying closed if they’re not breathing through their mouths is a…post for after this one. I’ve got a bit of talk on just BFDI about objects and their ability to survive in space without breathing though needing to breathe while underwater.
You could say “oh but what if they have a Jacobson’s organ in the roof of their mouths” and I’ll say, shhhh. I’m too tired to discuss that but correct me if I’m wrong, Saw was talking about smelling a flower in either bfb or tpot.
MY THOUGHTS ABOUT BOTTLES OBJECT WORLDBUILDING
There's two types of bottles and other liquid container objects - first born empty, can be filled with anything and second, those who's liquid is a part of their body produced by it, loss of it is a health risk.
If we're taking worlds where objects have child stage which isn't true for some shows, all of second category are born with default "baby liquid" (water mixed with waste from the time they were forming and some other stuff) inside, in few weeks their body starts producing the proper liquid (juice, acid, beer, whatever) but before it the baby liquid can be tested and you can predict what the final one is going to be.
Fun fact: for objects who naturally have alcohol inside it's almost impossible to get drunk, they're pretty resistant to effects of alcohol since their body always produces it. tho there's a condition they can be born with that actually causes them to be drunk all the time. Most objects with it die as babies, but if they make it through the first year they're most likely gonna make it to adulthood. There's a similar thing with objects who have harmful chemicals inside, tho they're guaranteed to die if they aren't born resistant.
First category objects often use liquids for fashion purposes, like filling themselves with glittery water. Among rich objects who are glasses 🍸 it's common to "wear" pretty looking multilayered alcohol shots inside to show off their status. And yes, it makes them drunk.
First category objects don't have to have liquid inside but for plastic bottles it's heavily recommended as it makes them less likely to get deformed.
No matter the category, drinking out of someone is seen as something personal or intimate in majotity of object societies. Tho a lot of younger objects are chill with it and don't see it as a sacred thing and often let their friends take a sip.
There's an old marriage tradition - at their wedding the bottle object gets filled with wine. They aren't supposed to be opened as long as the object is alive (or the marriage lasts). When they die, their loved ones and relatives drink the aged wine out of them on the funeral.
If we're taking worlds where objects have child stage which isn't true for some shows, all of second category are born with default "baby liquid" (water mixed with waste from the time they were forming and some other stuff) inside, in few weeks their body starts producing the proper liquid (juice, acid, beer, whatever) but before it the baby liquid can be tested and you can predict what the final one is going to be.
I actually really fw this! One thing tho, since (imo) this is the way objects reproduce, they're not "born" per se but rather 'fertilised'. So the parents have a choice over whether the baby will be fertilised with a liquid or without. But I guess this could still work since this (↓)
liquid would likely go into the liquid. And instead in a few weeks their body will gain the ability to regen the liquid inside them like blood (because something something evolution idk). Ig the parents would also have to gradually filter out the old liquid to stop disease setting in.
the marriage thing is so cool, and i could see it falling out of fashion just like irl; the new 𝔀𝓸𝓴𝓮𝓻 object generations start to stop doing the tradition because it might result in parents pressuring their engaged children into doing it. It might be painful or uncomfortable, or act as an incubator for pathogens. etc etc. (not to diss @julespinkchair's hc or anything, i'm just thinking about how this would evolve as objects get more 𝔀𝓸𝓴𝓮 like in the human world) (ok i'll stop)
And everything else sounds so right i'm stealing it as a personal hc >:J
Omg I love your blog I'm so happy to be noticed!!!!!!!
I like how each object worldbuilding enthusiast has different views on how objects reproduce (and the shows where it's told also give different versions). I try to keep my concepts in a way that could be applied to multiple object reproduction ways instead of sticking to one :D
Yes, objects definitely got less traditional.
Tho isnt it kinda sweet, you drink the pathogen-filled wine from the corpse of your relative and then you and all their other family members die too. Afterlife family reunion /silly
thx! honestly i'm glad to see it's not just me who cares so much about these silly little objects :) It's cool to see the ways other people handle worldbuilding instead of trying to condense all object shows into a single canon. it's challenging and confusing, but i love it nonetheless. following if i haven't already!
so in bfdia 25 how did book and needle do that... bending thing?? idk what to call it.
this is what i mean: https://x.com/Ju1cery/status/2056608249055760839 (idk how to send images)
i noticed this too and i can't think of any explanation other than cartoon logic, but that's pretty unsatisfying :/
I could just say “high deposits of collagen” but like then if you apply pressure to either of them, it would press inward like our skin. But that doesn’t really happen for these two. Or at least we don’t see it.
So here’s a more fun explanation:
Objects have a spine or at least some analogue to one. You can’t see it because, using the very popular method of Organspace, it’s pushed into another dimension. This backbone acts as the main support for muscles, which pull on the ‘outer shell’ of the object’s body. But how does the outer surface not be damaged permanently due to the pull force?
Have a look at this:
Fig 1: Depicting the process of cell movement when an object stretched (ignore sphere guys)
Each cell of the ‘epidermis’ is held together by a special intercellular structure called a “demosome”, which provide a strong adhesive force that stick cells together. It’s kinda like cellular Velcro. These structures are why your skin holds together also.
Just like the cells in the topmost layers of our skin, they’re dead or at least…barely alive perhaps for objects, while much of their cell contents are made up of their object’s material, i.e. wood or silver. So, they can’t respond to cell signals well. So, energy has to be placed into the demosomes to break that adhesive force. It’s a lot of energy and that’s why you rarely see objects do it.
Once a particular pair of cells have their adhesive force split, the muscles easily pull apart the two halves of the top layer. Beneath that layer, there is another layer of more alive cells, which are prompted to squeeze into the gap made quickly by nerve signals. The more this top layer is pulled apart as the object continues to bend, more cells from the layer beneath are added. Rarely does it get to a point that the beneath layer runs out of cells to supply.
However, the stretched area does get more taught and easier to puncture due to its thinning. On the opposite side, cells instead bunch together, create a temporary dense area of cells.
It’s best not to overstretch though.
This is all well and good for objects like Needle. But for Book, her species and other objects like it have to rely on a more specialised skeletal structure. Their sternum is more flexible and functions akin to a psuedo-spine, but this kind of process is only needed for the front and back cover. The pages can bend just fine.
I’m gonna go have some pancakes now.
more of them cuz ppl liked the last ones
Thinking about object societies again. If an object is asleep and they dont snore, or their face is hidden, it might be hard to tell whether they’re animate or not (using animate to mean “a person that is or was alive” and inanimate to mean “an item that is not and has never been alive” because alive excludes dead objects, object is confusing in this context, and that phrase is long) so if there are homeless objects that are things you might expect to find outside (tables, grocery bags, bottles, potted plants, articles of clothing) i wonder if knocking on random things is just a norm. Like, knocking on a trash bag you find before taking it to the dumpster, knocking on a table before sitting down at it, knocking on a blanket by the side of the road before picking it up, knocking on a trash bin before tossing something into it. It might also extend to things that “cant” be animate, just by force of habit, like knocking on a wall before leaning on it, or knocking on the things in your house that are already known to be inanimate. I wonder if there’s also a much stronger “no littering” culture, since you’d be the best one to know which things you left where and what’s inanimate
I love this 🥹
what seperates a fallen tree branch from part of someones body. what if you were walking and just saw that is it scary? huw would you know without dna checking if thats a body part or just a branch. is there even a distinction
were now discussing conditions that objects with liquid and such in them might have that mean their bodies either make too much or too little of it
What if objects being named after their object is like, a generational thing, in-universe. Like for all the universes where that’s the case: bfdi, tnm, objectified, etc. Like most objects had “normal” names (think hfjone) and then suddenly it was all the rage to name your kid after what they were. And in a few decades they’ll all be inadvertently broadcasting their age with their name sort of like how people with the most popular name of their birth year do. And they all hate it because everyone knows they’re in their late 40s now or whatever. Anyway they all named their kids stuff like jake and mary and robert, so theres just one generation of objects that have object-y names and everyone older or younger than them by more than 5 years have names that are indistinguishable from a human’s
Imagining like two teens chatting
“Uncle Beakery is gonna pick us up at 5, and then we’ll eat dinner there?”
“Why is it, that everyones parents and uncles and stuff are named… like, Tabley or whatever, like thank god i wasn’t born 40 years ago lmao I’d probably be named Fenceposty or something and Miranda is so much cooler. Oh uhh yeah 5 is good i think”
“Cool ill let mom know that’s the plan. And trueee i wouldn’t wanna be named like, idk ‘Spray Sealant’ or whatever”
“Pfft. Spray sealant”
“If you call me that i will bite you… fenceposty”
Object have ears.
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Soooo….
But they don’t have pinnae! Pinnae are the external structure of the ear, basically just look at the side of your head or most mammals and you will certainly find them.
So what would their glasses look like? Well, they’d probably look the same with two differences- perhaps made of a bendier material to fit around objects with convex or bumpier face, and the lack of temples. Temples are the name of those extended bits of the glasses that fit onto your ears.
Here’s a couple of ideas:
Fig 1: Different types of glasses for objects
The most common design is the use of those suction cup things, which cause the glasses to suction to the face. They work best on smooth surfaces though.
More material-specific glasses include the use of Velcro for fabric and magnets for magnetic metals.
Yeah I don’t have much else to say but these are only a few examples and there’s a wide variety out there, even in shape and stuff.
idk twin I just wanted to get this subject out of the way