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[obsessedandindistress]

[obsessedandindistress]

Shauna Shipman-core

[nataliesscatorccio]

and no i'm not going to talk about natalie being so good and skillful at keeping quiet during a hunt and listening for her surroundings as a direct result of her abusive upbringing, but we can all hold hands while we think about it collectively in silence

[castyel]

↳ the greatest love story ever told 8/∞

[obsessedandindistress]

STOP COMPARING DEAN WINCHESTER TO SHAUNA SHIPMAN THEY ARE NOT THE SAME

(real ones know that the closest comparison is natalie)

[kendrysaneela]

I’m obsessed with Helly and Helena’s different walks.

[obsessedandindistress]

Helena walks the way a woman is expected to in the controlled world she lives in. She is raised with very little autonomy or power, despite being an Eagan, and her walk is indicative of the constant pressure put on her to conform and obey. It’s confined, graceful, and trained perfection, just like everything else in her life.

Helly has (more or less) only existed around men. She mirrored her walk off the men around her. As much as she is a woman in the office, she is treated the same as the men and spends 100% of her time with them. Her walk is less controlled, more natural, and takes up more space, similar to society’s expectation of men.

The walks are incredible character differentiation and style choices, but are also rooted very deeply in the different experiences these characters have had, and ultimately a commentary on what society expects of a “proper” woman. Helly lives outside that expectation. Helena is surrounded by it.

[p3roxide-princ3ss-deactivated20]

opening tumblr and seeing destiel trending is like russian roulette either its undeniably canon or world war 3 has started only one way to find out

[alicentsgf]

its not lost on me that every time a yellowjacket tries to heal, to be better in some way, they die. that implies if shauna is the last to die (which i think she will be) its at that point we'll finally get a moment of true reflection from her for the first time. right now she still wont acknowledge shes always been the one building her own cage. the part of her subconcious that wears jackie's face tries to get her to admit fault but she just wont, so i'd like to see this end with a reversal of those roles. aka shauna admitting fault, apologising finally, and jackie forgiving her. and it doesnt change the ending, doesnt save shauna, but its okay because living was never going to be her reward either.

[medusas-daughter]

You know what for all the admittedly fascinating theories about Kodiak I'm actually so glad he turned out to be insignificant plot fodder because this show is ultimately about the girls and the girls only men are here to advance the plot and die except for Travis who's here to show that when guys try hard enough they can become interesting girls too but if they go back to the real world and get socialized as men again they die offscreen because again this story is for girls and women and I fucking love it

[obsessedandindistress]

i need someone more intelligent than me to analyze why van’s plane is daylight and smooth sailing and peace while Nat’s is nighttime, crashing, and fear/panic.

something something Nat carries the guilt of what she did to keep them alive whereas Van was a bystander who was kept alive by the actions of others

[kirasometimess]

For me, there’s a couple of ways you can look at this but they all boil down to the “they never left the wilderness” motif that colors the adult timeline.

Van and Natalie cope with and deal with their traumas in very different ways. Natalie wears hers on her sleeve. Natalie sits in it, even lives in it. If she’s always in trauma, then nothing can really hurt her. We see this in the few times Natalie has tried to leave it behind, most recently when she let herself believe she was going home and things were getting better. Then the worst thing possible happened. She had to stay. She can’t get out of it. She can never get out of it and it will never matter.

Van, on the other hand, lives in a fantasy world. Not in a childish way, but she copes by telling herself she’s in a story. And in stories, the main character (her) always wins in the end. It’s always worth the struggle and the hardship. Because at least one day the music will rise and the great Reason for it all will make sense. We see this in her many pop culture references, the way she shrouds herself with larger than life grandeur as a child and in nostalgia as an adult. If Natalie lives in her trauma and knows it will never amount to anything, Van lives outside it searching for meaning.

So for the plane - it’s chaos and horror and panic because Natalie never left that moment. She lived there. “We’ve always been here.” Maybe a small part of Natalie hoped there would be peace when she died and that’s why she spent her adult life trying to create it, but she never truly found a single moment in her life that was quiet. Why would her death be any different?

But for Van, for all her forced and unforced optimism, she was always perpetually outside the things happening to her. She protected herself in that way - this isn’t happening to me, it’s happening to her. The girl I will be one day. The girl who makes all of this bullshit mean something. The woman who finally has faith in something and it’s real and it lives. But she never became the woman. She was always the girl living a movie or a script because movies always have a point. Life doesn’t. Life is cruel and random and Van was never able to reconcile that and make HER life mean something. She’s trapped outside herself and that’s why her death is like an outsider looking in.

As viewers, we are seeing Natalie and Van as they see themselves. Natalie forever trapped in her skin, Van never able to live in it. The realist vs. the dreamer. The skeptic vs. the believer. The question of who had it right in the end.

“There was never an It. It was always just us!”

“Is there a difference?”

They’re both tragedies.

[elainiisms]

everyone coming for lottie like god forbid a girl murders an innocent man and then spends the next day face painting with his blood yall are so strict

[obsessedandindistress]

i need someone more intelligent than me to analyze why van’s plane is daylight and smooth sailing and peace while Nat’s is nighttime, crashing, and fear/panic.

something something Nat carries the guilt of what she did to keep them alive whereas Van was a bystander who was kept alive by the actions of others

[nataliescatorccioapologist]

I need to know why the ones who died show up in a plane that isn’t their own. Any ideas?

I have been wondering about this too! I think it would have been interesting to see them back in the plane they were in when they crashed instead, like a full circle moment showing they can never truly escape, even after all these years they are back in that plane as it’s about to crash in wilderness.

But my guess is maybe that bigger plane is the one they were taken back home in after they were rescued? The one they were boarding in that S2 scene (with all of the reporters and Lottie screaming). So being back on that plane could be symbolic of them never truly leaving, too?

[obsessedandindistress]

the concept that the plane is the one they were rescued on…

[allgreekbitch]

what did that fuckass hat lady just do to my wife.

[alicentsgf]

okay so tentatively wading into the discussion about the antler queen. i just think this overarching idea of the supernatural vs reality and the indistinct line between the two is so core to the show that the antler queen also has to be both. she has to be both real and not real. its them and its the "wilderness" and as lottie pointed out, there is no clear distinction between the two.

which leads me to only one conclusion: that its both jackie and shauna. or at least its shauna and the version of jackie that haunts her. shauna said it herself, she doesnt know where she ends and jackie begins. in some ways maybe they were always one entity. as shauna becomes more powerful, more of a leader, she seemingly attempts to channel jackie more and more. they become warped mirror images of each other. shauna warped by guilt and grief. jackie by shaunas misconceptions of her. shauna wears jackies clothes, takes her leadership role, eventually marries her boyfriend. its the continued cannibalisation of jackie in reaction to that loss and the desperation to keep jackie with her somehow. as much as shauna says she hated jackies control over her, she still seeks it out her entire life. the jackie in the meat shed told shauna what her life would be, and when shauna went home she actively condemned herself to it. shauna feels so profoundly alone and she always will because jackies dead and no matter how desperately shauna tries to subsitute other people and things into her life to fill jackies role, nothing and no one else ever quite fits right.

this option would make the episode title for the finale make a lot of sense to me. this would be "full circle". jackie and shauna are this unholy ouroboros, they are the snake eating its own tail. they represent the exact same thing; death, life, and the transmigration of the soul. in some way in some form jackie is revived and kept alive inside shauna, all because shauna froze when jackie froze, consumed her former self when she consumed jackie, and ultimately created out of that experience some frankenstein version of the version of herself she feels she had to become and the person she convinced herself jackie was. shauna could feasibly progress so far into embodying her own version of jackie that at the height of a shared episode of hallucination the rest of the girls might even see jackies face in place of shaunas. i just think its entirely possible that whilst shauna might wear the robe and antlers and physically sit in that space, it'll be jackie whose seen nodding and holding court over them all. after all, as nat pointed out, shes still the captain.

[obsessedandindistress]

you’d think after 10 years i would’ve learned to not open tumblr dot com on April Fool’s Day

[obsessedandindistress]

shout out to Natalie Scatorccio for being the first character in a looooonnng time to spark Dean Winchester levels of insanity inside my head