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The Zoe Slander file

What follows was initially written in response to an attack piece on Reddit, for Reddit.  But it ran over the space allowed, so I just posted it here, those coming here from Reddit, should scroll to “ PART TWO”  to avoid re-reading what Reddit did have room for.

Andrew Johnston here, late to my own (Reddit) party.   In all honesty I was hoping not to attend, but as this garbage appears to creep up the search engines even without me casting my pearls to the swine it seems I would be remiss not to make an appearance.  The problem with internet forums in general is that those with the least to offer, logically enough, have the most time to do so.  Having read this whole silly thread I think "Reddit" just might be the ultimate case in point.

Granted until I found my person and breeding program being slandered here, I’d not occasion to visit, so I don’t know if there might be higher levels of reason and discourse displayed elsewhere within.  But if anyone can hide behind a false identity, make up whatever BS they want, and find a bunch of morons with nothing better to do then respond…….. well really how different can it be on any given topic ?

My first instinct was not to grace it with my presence.  

 So I didn’t, for about four months, curious as to how it would play without rebuttal, I even refrained from sending any supporters.    So before I set about tearing new cyberholes, let me first tip my hat to that slim minority here that doesn't simply lurk in cyberspace reading random dog rants waiting to cheer, jeer, and make clear what they don’t know like so many village idiots the world over magically finding comfort in one another’s company virtue of www.

 Let me thank the few that thought to question “nw posters” bald face lies; TheKearney, meaniereddit, derrickito1, Brougham Faithful.   Those who called bullsh!t where they smelt it, pointed out the absurdity of some of the claims.  Without you folks this thread would be little more then clueless cyber lynch mob, with no interest in the other side of the story, or inclination to question even an accuser hiding their own identity ?!

 And let me give the short version of the other side of the story, in case the readers here have better things to do, then the writers.   The "NW poster" (Nathan), Rafe, and likely several of the chime ins are actually all the same team.  And that team is orchestrated by a woman named Zoe Song, she is the "partner" of Nathan friend of Rafe and author behind multiple false identities supporting this organized and rather professional bit of slander.  

And this supposedly selfless effort at helping others avoid “nw poster”s “mistake” in buying a dog, is really about to trying to extort money from yours truly.

She's even gone so far as to create a fake website  

www.olympicdogs.biz    

 Using photos stolen from my own, including one of me, linking to my youtube station, and my picassaweb album, and then misrepresenting my priorities and program in a crude and blatantly illegal bit of….. pretending to be me.   She also likes to pop up on various dog forums, never as herself, pretending to seek advice on whether or not to buy a dog from me, and then drop a link to drive traffic to the fake website.

Not to be confused with my actual website, which you can see below bears the same image of me.

www.olympicdogs.net

 But if she's left a credit card trail, yours truly, will be suing her a$$ when we get past the proxy domain used to register the slander site.

 Allow me to quote Zoe Song from her own Yelp review below, because it was my rebuttal to it, that rather clearly inspired the hair brain text on the fake website… I think you’ll agree.

The  yelp review/rebuttal can be found in it’s entirety at the address below

https://biz.yelp.com/r2r/RBbbiOJjTrkgbKKehvvFyg

"Hooch went to lay down and mistakenly I had tied his leash to the stroller and walked away for a second. Another dog had approached him from behind and as Hooch went to jump and attack the other dog, he dragged the stroller 30 feet with a child strapped inside."

 Yea, that’s the level of self righteousness i’m dealing with here.  This is her shining example of how dangerous her dog was……I felt obliged to point out the idiocy of tying one's toddler/stroller to any dog, much less a 140lb. untrained dog, in a public park, with other dogs.  And so in my yelp rebuttal I did just that.

So here's the deal.  I breed big, capable, dominant, protective dogs.  There is no misrepresentation of that on my website ( nor will one hear it from my mouth).  Said website being far and away more educational and informative then most, it contains whole essays such as.

http://www.olympicdogs.net/post/559498302/choosing-a-breeder

http://www.olympicdogs.net/post/559505819/choosing-a-breed

Not to mention a 1 to 10 scoring of the four breeds I work with on a variety of relevant considerations, including DOG AGGRESSION.....

 Yes, Boerboels, Kangals, Dogos all score high,  only breed in the mix that doesn’t is the Dane, which is one reason it’s in the mix.  So, misrepresenting anything on that score.  And anyone that has done any reading on dog selling websites will likely find mine refreshingly lacking in spin, hype, and all manner of the typical marketing BS in general.

To the assertion that I am breeding dogs that are dangerous to children or inappropriate for families:   Given the majority of the folks buying dogs from me for well over a decade probably are families, one would have untold numbers of tragedies unfolding right ?  

Yet "Rafe" himself, who stays much closer to the truth, even admits (when pressed on why he choose to buy a dog from me in the first place)

“I found every reference to Andrew's dogs I could online and saw only good things by people with direct experiences of the dogs.”

Which, considering the numbers produced, and the inevitable flops, is rather remarkable.  Mind you, to this day there is not a single testimonial on my website... so whatever he found was just people talking about their dogs, on their own, of their own volition.

 The truth is in well over a decade of breeding big, protective dogs.  Dogs that are supposed to have what it takes to protect one's family from threats, including humans, I've never..... till this crew..... had anyone claim that any dog I sold was a danger to the children in it's own family..... not once.

 A threat to other children playing too rough with the dog's children, yea I've had that.   But never the children of it's own family.   A threat to other dogs, yes often, a certain amount of dog aggression is almost a given, needs to be managed, it's to be expected.   If you just want a dog park dog, I'm not your guy, and I don’t pretend to be.  A danger to other humans posing a threat, yes, I hear about my dogs standing those down on occasion; not to mention other dangerous dogs, coyotes, wolves, cougars, bears…

You know what I've also not heard yet, in all these years ?

" Hey Andrew there was threat X to my kid, and your dog ran away"

 I Can't say it hasn't happened, I can honestly say I've never had it get back to me, not once.

Bottom line, we breed towards a tricky balance.   If you want a dog that has the backbone, the nerve, the physical capability to stand down a man, a cougar, a wolf, you are going to get serious dominant innately aggressive dogs, balls is balls at the basest level.    And that's what people come to me for, a dog that might actually step up and defend them if needed.   We breed for confident, stable, smart, and brave.

 But anyone that's been out here, or even watched our videos, will know all my dogs can be trusted around children !! I have quite a few myself, people bring theirs out all the time, we don't have issues with that.  Allow me to quote “Rafe” again, when pressed by a reddit poster on why he chose to buy a dog from me.

“  the overall experience of Andrew's Kennel was of seeing a bunch of very happy, healthy seeming dogs mixing well and responding well too his kids. He had his 4 year old out playing with these very large dogs in seemingly total comfort that was big selling point for us.”

 And as I've said on the website, if you do research you'll find that people who actually know the breeds well, Kangals, Boerboels, Dogos, and of course Danes, those folks will tell you that every one of those breeds is in fact naturally good with children!  And no, that doesn't magically negate in crossing breed lines!

 So, to the asinine assertions from the purebred fanatics haunting the far flung corners of reddit, asshats, and fear mongers, with no actual experience with serious dogs or crossing breed lines:

Shut the f%&k up !  You sound so silly.   As if Dogs were as simple as Mendel's peas and strange or Oil or water concoctions are to be expected.  There is nothing quite so obvious to person with real experience of a subject than people without it.  More eloquence on the topic can be found at the link below.

http://www.olympicdogs.net/post/559582539/defending-the-cross

As can the remainder of this rebuttal,  will be posted in it’s entirety on my website.  As I appear to have bumped up against a space limit for comments and don’t know a better away around that.  If you’re coming from Reddit, you’ll want to scroll to

“Part two” so as not read this first bit again.

If anyone wants to advise as to the proper to way to post a rebuttal without being subject to the character limitations imposed in “comments,” how to cross post to Rafe’s little hit piece, or tell me WTF a  Tl;dr: is please do. 

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PART TWO  Reddit pilgrims continue below.

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To the assertion that we are breeding unhealthy dogs:

Our crosses come with a five year replacement warranty for ANY GENETIC ISSUE.   I challenge anyone to find a better warranty.   Have we ever produced dogs with health issues...?  Of course, nobody producing as many dogs hasn't.  But it's relatively rare and we stand behind our warranty.   Which it should be noted, is not the same for purebreds... precisely because they do have more problems. I breed both, so I KNOW.

To the assertion that what we do is reckless, thoughtless, or the random play of a "backyard" breeder:  

If you don’t recognize thought when you read it, I can’t help you.  But perhaps you’ll acknowledge that the efforts I have made traveling to; S. Africa, Turkey, Argentina, and crisscrossing this country in pursuit of the best examples of the purebreds I choose to use are not what one associates with “backyard breeders”.    I have been whittling down from my own breedings for over a decade, best to best.  By no criteria, excepting that of a dimwit that thinks purebreds are of quality by virtue of being purebreds, can what I do be dismissed as such.

To a couple of the crazier and more offensive lies/accusations, most of which I won't dignify with response; such as

using a bb gun to brake up a dog fight:..... how silly and ineffective would that be ?

2.  To the lie that I beat my favorite dog into submission due to his “man aggression issues"   Wow. how completely full of sh!t are you ?  My favorite, Oz, is about perfect on the issue of man aggression.  Which is to say, he's not really aggressive at all.  He likes people and hundreds of people that have been out and met him can testify to it.

 But he is protective and territorial, and he's absolutely not going to be backed down, or beaten.  Not by me, or anyone else.  This we know, he's been "tested"  He's got that kind of backbone.  It's rare, we respect it, we cherish it, we admire it.   Beating it out of him, would be the last thing we would ever want to do.  I probably shouldn’t dignify these lies with rebuttal.

I would ask those of you who thoughtlessly join in and condemn people and events you really know not about to consider what damage you might do.   Ask yourselves before you attack someone who is not even present, whose side of the story you’ve not heard, whose livelihood might be effected.  Ask yourselves do you really know enough about the facts to play judge, jury, lynch mob ?  

Ask yourself would you hurl those insults so freely if you were looking them in the eye, if you were within arms reach ?  I rather doubt it.  What if that person was less able or inclined to defend themselves in print or elsewhere then I…. would you be more or less right then ?

And let me leave you with some things to consider regarding the ZoeSlander team.

1.  Both guys are claiming to have put down male dogs for excessive aggression…  “ONLY AFTER TRYING EVERYTHING”....yet both guys admit those dogs were put down IN-TACT that is with BALLS.

2.  Both are claiming to have searched for rescues far and wide, to no avail.   But neither guy asked me to take their dog back, ( if I remember correctly one wasn't willing to bring it back unless he got his money back )  And we take dogs back, no questions asked, on policy.  So that I can decide if a dog is fit to be re-homed or not.  So that if a dog needs to be put down, and they very, very, rarely do… I do it.  I know it happened.  I know it was done humanely.

3. Both guys did try to get money back,  before and after claiming to have put their dogs down.

4. Neither guy has, to date, shown proof of euthanasia, and I do wonder if there demise itself isn't a lie also.  

5. They are friends, in fact one brought the other, and for all I know one might be the roommate with the autistic child that got nipped cause it didn’t know how to behave.

6.  Rafe admitted, on reddit, that he had his previous dog put down also.  Guess why ?  It had torn both of it’s ACL’s and it bit him.  

What a coincidence !

How unlikely is that ?   Maybe it's cause he he tried to get both dogs to climb trees with him as part of his "parkour" instruction.  Maybe they tear ACL's that way, or bump their heads when then they fall out of the trees, who knows ?   Here’s what I know about Rafe, I sent him away to two other breeders, cause after some 70 fucking emails, making plain he was an instant internet expert of the highest order I didn’t really want to deal with him.   Ultimately he proved more likable in person and I relented and sold him a strange little runt of a dog because, although he was sure he wanted to buy a dog from me….based on his extensive research,  he wanted a smaller dog then is the norm for us, so it might climb trees and do whatever other silly shit one wants a “parkour” dog to do.

And let me Quote Zoe herself again from the the only place she used her own identity.

“Not including Hooch's intolerance to other dogs. At first it would be one dog Hooch would bark and want to attack. So I would say oh Hooch you just don't like poodles. Then like a faucet turned on, it was ALL DOGS, Hooch wanted to kill them all.”

Ohhh  Yea….…… Hooch probably didn’t have anything against poodles, per se.  

That would be a silly projection of race based dog prejudice…. to infer that.  And I rather doubt “the faucet” was that sudden.  But I’m sure that what Hooch was displaying was the first, and consequently most important, example of a level of dog aggression the owner did not approve of.   So the owner’s responsibility there, to everyone, including Hooch, the poodle and it’s owner, is to come down on that behavior like a ton of bricks and let THE DOG KNOW,  it’s not acceptable.  

Or the lesson Hooch will get is that it is okay, and in this case there’s no telling how many other bone headed inferences the owner made, “Hooch doesn’t like this kind of dog or Hooch doesn’t like dogs on these days”….  before she got it, if ever.  So by the time you do start to come down on him for going after let’s say….. a collie….. he’s just fucking confused…… he’s thinking “this crazy bitch must really like collies, cause she never had a problem before” :)  

 People…. I deal with the public, in all their madness, in all their stupidity.  I sell them dogs.  When it works out, which is far and away the vast majority of the time, they praise me.   If it doesn't they demonize me.  It is what it is, everybody it seems has strong opinions about anything having anything to do with mans best friend.  Yet every individual’s anecdotal experience is just that.  

But customer service is really not my thing.  I’ve done many things in life and none involved customer service.  Even when I was and actor in L.A. I wasn’t a waiter, which defies laws of physics.   And though I believe in treating everyone with respect, as a default setting in life, customers or strangers, I have never been inclined to take shit from anyone.  And I don’t, so you come chippy, customer or not, I’m gonna tell you to get fucked.  There will always be conflicts with me, always have been, that’s just the way it is.   And there will always be people who have strong feelings towards me, both good and bad as a result.  That too is the ways it’s always been.   Used to be you didn’t want to piss of a gangster, then it became a lawyer, now perhaps it’s and I.T. professional :)  But I’ve pissed someone from most walks of life, and I’m still here, standing tall, living large, and too old a dog for new tricks.

I can’t say to what degree these haters are motivated by trying to leverage money out of me or to what degree they just got their feelings hurt, because I don’t have time to try and teach common sense.  Buying a dog from me does not make us friends for life, unless we actually happen to become that.  Buying a dog from me does not mean I will hold your hand or train that dog.  I will stand behind my warranty.  If I like you and you treat me with respect I will and have gone beyond what’s implied with the warranty.  If you rub me wrong, don’t expect me to do more then I’m obligated to.

 I've spent more time on this now then I intended, and I probably should have put my side out sooner, if I was going to at all... but I have no intention of wasting my time debating people with nothing better to do on reddit, so I’ve tried to cover it as best as I can, so as to forget it.  

But as Zoe Song and the Nathan Schroeder have seen fit to post my home address and contact information of their fake website I think at the very least I should do the same.  In the event anyone out there wants to give them a taste of their own medicine in the form of anonymous fake reviews ( you might have to review some other stuff prior not to have your review discounted ) or maybe pay them a visit at home and let them know what you think of dog killers.   or maybe contact Zoe’s employer, she does I.T. release for Costco of all places, a very righteous company, one of the best, I think they should be able to find better help don’t you ?

Nathan’s

Ballard Boxing and Barbell

http://www.yelp.com/biz/ballard-barbell-and-boxing-club-seattle

Home address is

Zoe Song 12714 Dayton Avenue N Seattle, WA 98133

See me drop the mic Olympicdog out !

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Compass Rose Farm and the Doug Spink connection

 Normally when I write here it's to a fairly narrow audience for a fairly well defined purpose.  What follows will have to serve an undefined audience and multiple purposes.  To the extent then the shot gun approach may not hit all targets equally please forgive me.

  I hope I never have to stray farther from dogs on this website then I'm about to, but at the root of this story is a missing dog named Ghengis.  He was a great dog, a teacher of pups with livestock guardian potential, perhaps the best example to date of Kangal/Boerboel cross, and a dog we bred heavily.   So long as he remains missing,  the truth needs to be told somewhere, because it may help bring him home.   

 The primary suspect in this stolen dog story is not someone I'd choose to be associated with... even by search engine.  And yet, to avoid that associaton, might reduce the odds of Ghengis's return, so let the links get made if they must.   Let the enemy of my enemy contact me if you they choose to.  It might not make them my friend, but justice is justice, and a common cause is just that. 

 First off, a word on my "neighbors" at Compass Rose Farm.   I've done more reading on them the last few weeks then I had the seven years prior.  I had always been amazed at the steady parade of free labour, but I had no idea, till I started reading their website, how professional the begging was.

  I must admit it's about as artfully done as begging can be, which isn't to say it doesn't sicken me still, or that I can grasp the shamelessness of it.  Had they not aided and abetted a known zoophile in the theft of my dog I likely never would have turned my attention their way.....but they did.  

  Had Compass Rose not housed Doug Spink, a veritable spokesman for beastiality, for at least 1.5 years, then intentionally withheld his name,  buying him time to do whatever he has with my dog, I wouldn't be involved....but they did.

 To those who have supported the begging pros at Compass Rose in the past, and may rationalize continuing to do so.   I understand, they do come off as nice people, I thought they were.   I used to let my children spend time there, playing with theirs, and there is no greater trust implicit.  I wrote a sincere testimonial to Kateen's husband Micheal Fenter's character,  prior to his sentencing for robbing banks in three states.   And even to this day I don't know that I would change a word of it.  It's not a disney movie, good and bad is neither simple, nor mine to judge, but actions do speak louder then words.  And seven years into knowing these perpetually gun toting, christian/hippy, bank robbing, organic farmer/gypsy beggars I'm less sure then ever what is real with them.

  I understand Compass Rose has is its supporters, sure as a table has legs  a cult has followers, and a hand out will always find a hand.   For those who plan to save the world by cultivating a renaissance in outdated methods of agriculture, I say this.  There are many other small scale organic farms struggling to get by in your county.  Most probably too proud to ask for help.  Few having websites, much less bit coin friendly "donate now" buttons.  And all of which certainly having received less help then the Begging Pros at Compass Rose.  I suggest you spread the love.   If charity was so much manure, Compass Rose would have long since been eyeballs deep in bleep.

  I once met a kind gentlemen at a jefferson county land trust party who had re-wired the entire residence at Compass Rose, on his own time, for free.

( Said structure also gifted from the state, with a land trust assist, ahead of folks that had waited on it for years )

The job took months, would have cost tens of thousands.  But you couldn't throw a piece of Tofu at that party and not hit someone that hadn't labored for free at Compass Rose.   As the poster children for the land trust ( they are photogenic ) they availed themselves of an amazing amount of good will, labour, money, materials, and machinery from from day one.  No one will deny that, and I believe most all of that comes from a good place.

 But it begs the question, if any one given "farm" requires such disproportionate assistance how "sustainable" are they ?   If they work their volunteer labour 8 hours a day and then send them into the Port Townsend  food bank for their sustenance.... how qualified are they to

"teach sustainability" 

 Which brings me to another question.   Has anyone ever gotten any help from them ?  Seriously, I'd like to know of one person, for my own understanding, please contact me.   Cause from where I sit parasitical is a more fitting term then sustainable.

  The Doug Spink Compass Rose connection

 Compass Rose has variously referred to Doug Spink  as a

"house guest"

"good friend"

"renter"

Initially they told Deputy Avery of the JCSO, Spink was just there for the weekend ( the weekend my dog disappeared ) when confronted with the admission by the grand parents that he had been there for a over a year, the story soon changed, eventually it morphed to 1.5 years of full time residency, as a "renter,"  as noted in the police reports.

 The moment Ghengis was discovered missing I was suspicious of someone at Compass Rose, I just didn't know who.    Because the feeding of the dogs had become so blatant the dogs lingered at the far end of the 20 acre pasture next to their house as opposed to the gate at the opposite side which I entered daily to feed them, and at which they used to wait eagerly for dry food.

   Initially Kateen Fenter/fitzgerald denied that anyone had been feeding my dogs, via text ( which I have ).  When I called bullshit on that citing the bones laying about, she texted back

 " I asked around and one of our house guest that is no longer here was giving bones to the dog. I apologize" 

  Yet she refused to give up the name, or any other information, even called the Sheriff on me for continuing to press the issue, and ultimately sought a protection order against me for demanding to know who it was.  Said order full of trumped up tripe, and promptly tossed out of court for the absurdity it represented.

  Later she acknowledged to deputy Mintz  knowing all along that the "house guest," was Doug Spink, that he'd been feeding the dogs for months, and for that matter that they all had.  As noted in the police reports.

 The grand parents told JCSO deputy's that Spink had been asked to leave to make room for incoming "interns" ( free labour )  But later, the story was because he hadn't paid rent.  Regardless, they say, he insisted on moving out in the dead of night, so they heard him leave, heard a wheel barrow in the night, but didn't see anything.   How convenient, considering the whole cut in the fence was directly in front of the residence.  No goodbye after a year and a half just a midnight departure....That's the story.

Oh, that and that they knew about Doug Spinks smuggling bust ( 300 plus lbs. of cocaine ) and probation/parole status but somehow not that he’s a long time advocate  for “cross species” something or other, read dog/horse fucker/fuckee.    

 A quick google will make obvious that owning a computer and claiming to know only part of the Doug Spink story denies common sense,  much less living with him on a "farm" where everyone has a computer and nary a one a tractor.  

 Doug Spink might be a lot of things.  But apparently ashamed isn't one.  A guy that has been busted for running a tourism beastiality ranch but has a bumper sticker on his vehicle, to this day, that reads

" Real men love dogs"

and had one on his laptop that says

" My horse is more then my husband"

And who once wore a T shirt celebrating man/dog love to and I.T. meeting in Manhatten might have a sense of humor......but he ain't joking exactly, and he for dam sure ain't on the down low.

 Quite the contrary, infamous maybe, unknown hardly.  And if internet notoriety is the coin of the realm, Stink is the king, the rest of us only paupers.   When Hollywood goes to make the movie it may be about the brilliant misunderstood cybergeek dog fuckee, or the evil genius conman cyber-villian dog fucker, or only hollywood knows what.  But it will be about him, not the underdeveloped characters he came in contact with.  

   Even in the unlikely event everyone at Compass Rose somehow only knew the drug smuggling bit of the Spink story, the fact he "cooperated" and served under two years for a bust valued at over 30 million, that got a guy who didn't "cooperate"  decades, and also apparently sent a judge to prison.   Should send a signal that Spink might be a dangerous person to have around, even to be standing next to.   Dangerous to have your children around, or the children of other people.  

 And yet Compass Rose was bringing children to the farm regularly not fifty yards from the spot Spink supposedly slept his days away and spent his nights tending his internet business for fellow zoophiles, pedifiles, and who ever else feels the need to pay a monthly fee too communicate via incrypted servers.  If you're considering sending your children to Compass rose's  

"Dirt Rich School" consider all that.  

 And lastly consider this by way of complicity.  Even if you buy that  no one ever figured out who Spink was, the deputy's promtly informed them.

  Several weeks AFTER THAT, when deputy mince returned to Compass Rose to take Spink's dog into protective custody ( yes he had his own, and a horse, both at Compass Rose, in violation of his parole and he specifically asked that his dog be left at Compass Rose when he was taken into custody in possession of it )  The only objection came from Kateen Fitzgerald who yelled out her door as Deputy Mintz pulled away

" Whatever you do don't nueter him"

Which strikes me as odd, or maybe a little funny, but exactly what we might expect Spink would have her say.  For those who don't know, Spink apparently likes to be on the receiving end of dog/man sex, I kid you not, they tell me it's documented.   And maybe I'm being too kind to Kateen here, but I can't imagine she's so inclined.  So who's bidding is she doing there ?

   Moreover, not thirty minutes later Deputy Mintz  get's a call from one Claire Spink offering her services as a potential caretaker of Doug's just seized dog.  Poor women it seems is forever running around trying to get her 40 something year old sons quadraped lovers back the moment some authority or another takes them away.  And she admits to deputy Mintz that Kateen called her straight away to inform her the dog had been seized.  All of which noted in his report.

  Which makes sense if Kateen was complicit with Doug Spink somehow to begin with.   But none at all if she was betrayed by a "friend", "guest", or "renter" who certainly would have been betraying his host in ripping of her neighbor on the way out.

 So that's the StinkRose connection in a nutshell.  Of course there are more ties that bind, most of which are better saved for civil or criminal trials then served up in discovery for the internets consumption.  Later for that.

   For those readers who might have begun to share my frustration with this story, check this out then.   In a particularly choice bit of bizarro “journalism”  that o-so-unlikely bit of selective Spink history/awareness was some how then accredit to yours truly by the P.T. MIs-leader in the initial clusterfuck of an article ( the online version of which since partially corrected ) ,  And I quote.

  " At the time, Johnston said he was made aware of Spink’s drug bust history, but it was before Spink’s animal activist role came to public light."

No.  

Not even close.  

That is a precious gem, of misinformation.  I don’t think I could write such a short sentence so wrong on so many levels if I tried.  And who is all of a sudden gracing Spink with the term “animal activist” Mr. Editor ? You'd think a far left leaning rag in a far left leaning town would have more respect for the term.... Activist.   

What I told the Misleader, in plain English, was that the drug stuff came up first in a google search, but even in 2007 you didn’t have to go far in the same search to see allegations of beastiality ( however spelled )

  And  ” Johnston was made aware of the drug bust ”   

 Reads as if he informed me and I decided to do business with him anyway, does it not ?   Innuendo or just bad writing ? Poor journalism either way.

  Spink came into my world in late 2006, inquiring about dogs over the phone like most everybody else I deal with in dogs.   I knew nothing about him, that hadn’t come up talking dogs, till I figured it all out in a matter of minutes, with one google search in early 2007 promted after it became clear he had tried to run a con on me, and contrary to his claims, had neither buyers nor deposits for the pups his dog sired with mine, as per our contract.

 Which is why I told him he wasn't getting a dog from me, even before I figured out who he was, at which point I assured him all I had for him was a bullet or a thank you, and he would never get a dog from me.   

 So perhaps in his mind, trying to con people, and having sex with dogs is not reason enough for someone to deny him one... and he simply evened the score.   Could be that simple, in his mind.

   To the P.T. leader I say this, you should be embarrassed.  If you don’t know what you’re writing about, you should take another week and come correct.   The only time I've felt any pity for Spink or Compass Rose in this story is when I got a first hand taste of the slap hazard, smut slinging, shock centric, factually unencumbered, small town journalism you and people like you perpetuate.   The great irony of the information era I suppose may be it's ultimately undone by a deluge of misinformation.  God help anyone who's life is actually subject too much of it.

And finally a word to Spink, cause internet villian that he is, he will read it.

My take on you is entirely dependent on what you’ve done with Ghengis.

if he

A. lives 

or

B. Is dead

 If he’s living:

  And you have any non zoophile friends, I like to think you’d leave him with one of those.  In this context drug smugglers, computer hackers, bank robbers, your mother, almost any walk of life would be preferable. 

 If he must be with a zoo, I prefer to imagine him living large, with a beautiful wealthy, lady zoo.  Maybe eating organic buffalo dog food, getting his nails trimmed regularly, perhaps lounging around a pool somewhere. 

  If that's not an option I guess that fake red head, fake journalist kareen Maloney will do.  Or was that real red hair, and fake journalism.... on the hair, I can't be sure.

  As everybody that's been out here knows, Ghengis had a post card dog  life; in a twenty acre pasture with a babbling brook, a large herd of admiring goats, a steady rotation of bitches in heat, and a human family including three children that loved him.   It was hard to improve on his daily reality, good luck trying to pitch it as rescue.

 I can't begin to know how a man that likes to get bleeped by dogs thinks, I won't pretend to.   But some of those that spent more time trying then I care to have suggested you may, in your own strange way, have fallen in "love" with the dog ?

  In that case, if he comes back in good health and spirits….. I might forgive you.   If he takes to trying to mount future puppy buyers... well at least we have a story to tell, I'll be sure and get some youtube video for those not put off by dark humor.    We can let future generations debate the merits of your cause, maybe someday we will zoophiles in the NFL, but I assure you this era is simply grossed out, myself included, even if I make light of it.

 If he’s dead:  

 Then you Spink are the worst sort of hypocrite.  The lowest form of coward.  Your life’s work is only lies,  your followers only fools.   You cry about the government taking your animals then turn around steal mine ?  

 If you have killed that innocent dog, for whatever "reason" or just to take the heat off,  then all your eloquence, all your intelligence, education and mental gymnastics mean nothing…… cause you have no soul.   And that is thing which can neither be begged, borrowed, stolen, or purchased.

 If you were trying to settle some kind of score, then you should have been man enough to show your face to me, and left the innocent parties out of it. I'm not hard to find.   I won't be whenever you next get out.   The state of Washington doesn't require a man to take a step backwards, and you can bet your life I won't.   

I want my dog back.

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Current and Pending litters

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Spring of 2022 

We will three different litters available this spring

Bogan x Tulsi: Born 2/3/22  Homing in early April

Bogan x Sistuh big bone:  Due any day, homing late April early May

Bogan x Sticky:  Due late April, homing in June

Please scroll down for details and percentages, and understand that the percentages are the same for Sticky and Sistuh Bigbone, as they are full sisters to “tritoe”

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1.  Bogan x Tulsi

Pups born: Feb 3rd 2022

Expect pups to start going to new homes the weekend of 4/9/22

Click here to see 4:18 video of parents and pups at 4/5 wks

Click here to see 4:05 video of parents and pups at 5/6 wks

Part two of video above

Click here to see 2:43 video of parents and pups at 7/8 wks

This is a repeat breeding... actually a Threepeat.  The last being an accident if I’m honest.

The predominate breeds in play here are Dane and Kangal.   What I’m seeing so far in the feed back is dog that could pass as Eurodanes, or “Daniffs”.   Very tall, but with more muscle, more bone, more coat, wider heads and tighter jowls than an American Dane.  We may have taken a big step towards an “olympic Dane” with this pairing.  I’ve got keepers on site as of now to show people what these pups will likely develop into

 I see these as good all around family dogs, with considerable protective instincts.   At 25% Kangal they won’t be needy, but the other 75% is all zero independence breeds so I they should still be fairly biddable and trainable.

Pups:

25% Great Dane

25% Turkish Kangal

13.25% Neapolitan Mastiff 1

12.5%  S. African Boerboel

7.75% American Bulldog

6.25% Dogo Argentino

3.5%  APBT

2.25%  Dogue de Bordeaux

Sire:  " Bogan “

39.5% Great Dane

26.5% Neapolitan Mastiff 1

5.5%  American Bulldog

7% APBT

7%  Bullmastiff

4.5%  Dogue de Bordeaux

Dam: "Tulsi”

50% Turkish Kangal

25%  S. African Boerboel

12.5%   Dogo Argentino

12.5%   Great Dane

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2.  Bogan x Sistuh Big Bone

Born: 2/26/22

Homing last weekend in April

Click here to see new born pups with mom

click here to see after a few days

Click here to see pups @ 4 wks

Pups:  

31.25% Boerboel 

26% Dane

13.25% Neapolitan Mastiff 

7.25% American bulldog

6.25% Dogo Argentino 

6.25% Turkish Kangal 

3.5%   APBT

 3.5% Bull mastiff

2.25% Dogue De Bordeaux Sire 

“ Bogan”  ( MidGuard Mastiff )

 39.5% Great Dane

 26.5% Neapolitan Mastiff 

 15.5% American Bulldog 

 7% American pit bull terrier 

 7% Bullmastiff 

 4.5% Dogue de Bordeaux Dam 

" Sistuh Bigbone " ( Olympic dog )  

 62.5% Boerboel 12.5%  Kangal 12.5% Dogo 12.5% Dane

3.  Bogan x Tritoe.  ( One Female keeper available,  born 10/23/21 )

Click here to see newborn pups w mom.

Click here to see pups at almost 4 wks

Click here to see pups at 5 wks

Click here to see pups at 6/7 weeks

Pups :

31.25% Boerboel

26% Dane

13.25% Neapolitan Mastiff

7.25% American bulldog

6.25% Dogo Argentino

6.25% Turkish Kangal

3.5%   APBT

3.5% Bull mastiff

2.25% Dogue De Bordeaux

“ Bogan”  ( Sire )

39.5% Great Dane

26.5% Neapolitan Mastiff

15.5% American Bulldog

7% American pit bull terrier

7% Bullmastiff

4.5% Dogue de Bordeaux

“Tritoe” ( dam )

62.5% Boerboel

12.5% Dogo

12.5% Dane

12.5% kangal

We could call this breeding our bully mollosor all-star  at only 6.25% Kangal there is virtually no independence in play in this pairing.  For those for whom less is more regards independence, this is the best we can currently do.

    I personally am very excited about this pairing and plan to keep a pair.  Both parents are extremely athletic,  biddable, quick to learn and very likely to Obey.   If unquestioning devotion is something you value in a dog this pairing should be at the top of your list. The verdict on Bogan’s temperament is not in yet as he is still young, but thus far he is very low in dog aggression, definitely more of a lover than a fighter. Sticky is a pretty tough bitch, showing very strong protective instincts, but extremely biddable, and ever eager to serve, and obey.

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4.  Bogan x  Trouble   ( two older pups still available )

Born Aug 21st. 

 My Keepers: TWO Brindle PUPS STILL AVAILABLE

Click here to see 9:10 video of pups @ 5 wks with parents

Click here to see 6:23 video of pups and parents @ 6 wks

Click here to see 7:37 video of pups and parents @ 7 wks 

Talk about genetic diversity, please have a look at the percentages below.  

The simplest way to understand what to expect here is to note that the Kangal, is the only breed in the mix with any independence to speak of, and it’s only 12.5%   Having done many combinations of 12.5% kangal I’m going to say the independence is hard to see at all.  

 What you can expect is very big, tall, athletic square headed daniffs really.   

Pups: 

26% Great Dane

25% S.A. Boerboel

13.25% Neapolitan mastiff

12.5% Turkish Kangal

6.25% Dogo Argentino

2.75% American Bulldog

3.5% APBT

3.5% Bullmastiff

2.25% Dogue de Bordeaux

Sire:  " Bogan “

39.5% Great Dane

26.5% Neapolitan Mastiff 1

5.5%  American Bulldog

7% APBT

7%  Bullmastiff

4.5%  Dogue de Bordeaux

Dam:  “Trouble”

50% Boerboel

25% Kangal

12.5% Dogo Argentino

12.5%  Dane

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Adult Dogs and older pups for sale/trade

 Scroll down, past text, for photos, and current options.

   As a breeder I almost always keep a pup or two from every litter to study, to evaluate, despite knowing there are only so many slots to fill and most will be raised only to be parted with later.   Call it rookie camp, there is no other way to be sure which ones I ultimately want, pups are placed too soon to really know.   Those that remain are almost always my picks of their respective litters.   

 Every year the competition gets tougher, the dogs that stay better, those that don't make the cut better.   It's simple math,  I've got to loose an adult every time a youngster impresses enough to warrant it.  Or a young adult by the time I decide a change is not warranted.  I suppose the best analogy would be a sports organization; every year they bring in new talent, by a variety of means; farm system, trades, free agency.  And every year they must get down to a certain number.  It's very much the same here.

 Older dogs are subject to be moved on for a variety of reasons; some times to make way for new, different, or better genes.  More often because I kept a youngster around long enough to take a better look at and it was no longer a "puppy" by the time I decided not to give it a slot.  And less often because they simply reached an age that warrants it.  

   These can still be fine pets, and good editions to a family.  In any case chances are if they stuck around my place long enough to grow up, much less get old, they're pretty good dogs.  Such a dog often times appreciates becoming and only dog more than one who has been graced with that status from puppyhood.  As a result they can, and often do, bond all the more intensely with the singular devoted owner or family they have at long last found, which is all any dog ever really wants.

  And though it’s rare that I am asked to do so, I will take back any dog I’ve sold, for any reason ( Though I do appreciate a couple weeks notice )  As such, time to time, I will try and place one of those dogs in this section, when appropriate.

  I would encourage anyone not attached to the idea of a puppy to consider a dog from this section, they are often the best value on a number of levels, particularly for those who have an immediate need a puppy can't fill.

 You can see some, but not all, of the current options by scrolling down.  If you're inclined to take on an older dog for whatever reasons it's always good to call, there there may be more options then listed below.

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  I do try to keep this section current, if a dog is listed here, it is still available.   The adult dogs tend to stick around a lot longer then pups.

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1. Shenanigans:  7 y.o. in-tact male: proven livestock guardian, well socialized, leash trained, tough as nails, sweet as can be.

Great with goats, chickens, even farm cats.  Loves kids, tolerant of pups, a noble dog.

I really like this old boy, but he’s related to most all my females, he’s getting up in years and I’m not running a retirement home for old dogs.  He is as good as any I have with the goats, and don’t mind keeping him around as a teacher in that regard.  But ultimately I need to make room for new males, and he’s not the sort to cohabitant with intact adults males.  

I will be particular about what sort home he goes to.  He’s close to my heart.

I would like to send him with his sister mischief if I found the right home, but I’m not opposed to separating em, they squabble enough that I don’t imagine they’ll mind.    Two of my all time favorites these two.  If you have goats and predators, they solve that problem, individually or as a team.

You can find a variety of videos that Shenanigans and Mischief make cameos in on our youtube channel if you want to poke around, I may find the time find for specific links later.

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FEMALES

1.  Trouble:  50% Boerboel 25% Kangal 12.5% Dogo 12.5% Dane

Trouble was my pick from a pairing of two of my all time favorites: Country x Mischief

click here to see a recent video of Trouble w/pups

Between two and three years old, in-tact, and currently with pups.   Trouble is in perfect health probably one of the biggest females out here, very much a guardian dog for a family, loves kids.  But not particularly good with stock, farm cats, chickens etc.  Some how the 12.5 % dogo carried the day and she has more prey drive then I want in her percentages.    

 Trouble also represents a relatively rare opportunity to buy a breeding dog with one of her pups, perhaps one of the few ways to insure a mother daughter that get along forever.   Male/female will always get along. 

 I’m not trying to get top dollar for Trouble, I just need to make space in my program.  Best offer situation.

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2.  Tulsi:  50% kangal 25% Boerboel 12.5% Dogo 12.5% Dane

My pick from the Country x Queen breeding

Click here to see a recent video of Tulsi with pups

Between two and three years of age, in perfect health, no physical issues, in-tact.

Tulsi would make a good family dog/guardian.  Particularly suited for those who like a calm dog.  But she’s not a livestock guardian, even at half Kangal, she didn’t show that propensity early and I don’t fish uphill battles.

She’s a physically impressive dog, 30 plus inches at the shoulder and very athletic.  Temperamentally; low in dog aggression, gentile in nature, but very protective.  And as we might expect in a half Kangal, fairly independent.  Loves kids.

 Tulsi does currently have pups that are available, so the possibility of buying her with one of her pups exists.  And I’d kind of like to see it happen that way as I think it would be good for her.  She took it hard when her first litter left all at once ( harder then most ) She forms strong bonds with other dogs, as she did with her mom, who also just left.

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3.  “Mischief”

Kangal/Boerboel

 Retirement aged intact female.   One of my favorite dogs of all time.  Tough as nails, brave as can be.  GREAT with goats, chickens, etc.  Great with my kids.  But will kill a cat at any opportunity.  Very obedient for the mix, well socialized, well traveled, leash trained etc.  If I was of a mind to retire dogs here, she could grow old here, but I’m not.  

 She’s smart as whip, I really like this dog.  But she’s also very dominant doesn’t miss a chance to fight in-tact females that challenge.   And she kills cats.... a few of which we keep around for rodent control.  

 It’s time to start looking for a retirement home for Mischief.  

 Ultimately her replacements are here, and she needs to go. If you’re interested get in touch, she’s a special dog !!

You can undoubtedly find lots of video of her on our youtube station.  

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Possible/Pending litters

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Looks like we are going to have a another repeat breeding of 

Bogan x Tulsi due mid February, homing mid to late April 2022

Accepting deposits now

Tulsi is a female from my program going back some 15 plus years.   And  Bogan is a mid-guard mastiff.   This is a repeat breeding.  Expect super athletic Dane size dogs with thicker coats,  more smarts, and potential to protect your family than any purebred dane.   But still with relatively  low dog aggression. Expect dogs much healthier than any purebred Dane  ( currently the shortest lived breed on earth ) with more Smarts, backbone, better nerves, confidence,  and natural protective instincts brought to the table by a whole variety of other less "gentrified" breeds in play.

 Pups:  

25% Great Dane 

25% Turkish Kangal 

13.25% Neapolitan Mastiff 

12.5% S. African Boerboel 

7.75%  American bulldog 

6.25% Dogo Argentino 

3.5%  American Pit bull Terrier 

3.5%  Bullmastiff 

2.25%  Dogue de Bordeaux 

 Bogan.  ( MidGuard Mastiff ) 39.5%   Great Dane 26.5%  Neapolitan Mastiff 15.5%  American Bulldog 7%  American pit bull terrier 7%  Bullmastiff 4.5%  Dogue de Bordeaux 

 Tulsi:  50%  Turkish Kangal 25%  S. African Boerboel 12.5%  Dogo Argentino 12.5% Great Dane

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Announcements

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Bogan x Tulsi and Bogan x Trouble are both getting run back this summer.

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 Finders Fees:  $300

For anyone that points me in the direction from which I ultimately acquire a Great Dane:  I’m looking for something special, I don’t care where in the world it is, but please do have some reason to believe it’s a Dane of exceptional smarts, nerve, and courage our you’ll waste time, yours and mine both.

And let me add to that list three more breeds, because leads are good.

Akita: later for why, I need something that doesn’t bark

Boerboel: looking for leggy, smart, confident, ballsy

Kangal: legit working livestock guardian pedigree/ancestors

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 Washington State Sales Tax:

Turns out I’m obliged to collect it … on dogs….who knew…… ?

Apparently some chicken shit, with a bone to pick, who brought me to the governor’s attention.  So from now on I must, on all pups and dogs picked up in state.   Pups and dogs received out of state remain exempt.  

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Oz Tamam

This is my favorite Dog !

Need I say more ?

 I Love this f&^%ing dog !

 Smartest, bravest, best nerves out here.  He's the only dog out here I won't go to make a point with empty handed, and he's the gentlest and most graceful around young kids, two or four legged; a lotta heart, a lotta grace... equals class.

He's something special, he's something to build on.   More on him later, for now I just want to get some photos up.

Oz's Penn hip ( exceptional also .28 .28 )

Oz at just over two.

2 years old

Ever wonder why dun with a black mask is the default color of so many creatures ?

Oz at 14 months

Oz at 14 months

Oz under a year here, all arms and legs.  The Boerboel is an honest 160lb.  good looking bastard, that I never used cause he's not even close to right temperamentally or mentally ( he's retarded )

Every time I look at the photo below I'm reminded of the earnest scolding I got from a well educated and worldy Turk in Istanbul who was adamant that Kangals simply die if taken from their dry native Eastern Turkey region ( chuckle )  Urban Turks, turns out, often know even less about dogs than urban Americans, and spout all manner of proud and often foolish gibberish about their National dog the Kangal.

Below Oz risks sure death in one of the ponds in my woods

Oz at 8 months

5 months

Oz here at 5 months, witnessing his first kidding.  Most people that deal in livestock guardians would scold me for even allowing a pup this age unfettered access to this, but I was willing to lose a kid to see for myself if there was any real truth to the claims.  And sure enough, as rambunctious as was at that age with the big goats, all he wanted to do was lick this kid.  He never needed teaching from an older dog or to be separated till he was older; that's probably not a fair expectation to set, but it's true of him.  Now as an adult he's the teacher and I rotate young dogs/pups into a pen with him and young kids, said young dogs and pups promptly get hammered by Oz if they even think about getting rough with the young goats.

Oz here around 10 weeks, shortly after we made it back.

Oz here at about 8 weeks, in Istanbul

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8 wks again, with me in Istanbul, preparing for the final leg of our great adventure

Oz's pedigree below

Oz's penn hip below....... exceptional !

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Sevdi ( kangal )

Sevdi's Penn Hip ( .27 .27 )  I don't think anybody in the world can put two better scores together than her and Oz ( .28 .28 )

The most striking thing about Sevdi for me is the way she moves, talk about floating, she'll be the first dog I shoot video of.   She came to me as an adult, so I don't have quite the same bond or knowledge, as I would a dog I raised; but she's good with my goats and my kids, and always on the job.  She's also got that same steady temperament I see so often in Kangals, no nervous energy at all, self contained.  I'll start with a couple shots of her just after arriving at my place after a few days on the road with me and my 14 year old,  this is her meeting two of my younger children for the first time... needless to say I trusted her implicitly by then, she's a very sweet dog, she was a family dog in her first home.  

below; Sevdi and Oz

The world belongs to a good looking dog that can dance

Could be love

But it's not all roses

11 pups born on the coldest night of the year, a record breaking 5 degrees that night I heard the little shrieks of newborns not happy and went out to find she had some how dumped about 5 of them still wet from being born, out the opening of the dog house and into the snow.  I put them back in and I went back inside.  I don't believe in helping.   They all lived.  The Kangal, as a breed, has not been babied, it has not been ruined; It is I'm sure the healthiest and most hardy of all that I work with.

Touchdown !

I have no excuse for showing this photo... except I love it :)  My fascination with genetics baring the ultimate fruit :)

Sevdi's U.K.C. Pedigree below

Sevdi's penn hip below... hard to find better.

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Immediate Ancestors: (photos)

"Hope" mother of my current three "Tallwater, Agressa, Boelbella" 

Hope was a pretty good bitch; tough, smart, protective, and eager to please.

She, like her daughters, was constantly looking you in the eye

Hope, just under a year here, with one of my sons

The brindle below was named "Doc" out of "Night Train" and " Blackwell's Vegter"  and dam to my "Hope"

"Doc" again

Doc again

Doc belonged to a gentleman by the name of Jerry Heater, who if memory serves, said she was the best he ever had, he also said she had exceptional penn hip scores.

 Doc was bred to Blackwells Vegter with Penn hip scores in the .3's if memory serves.  A breeding repeated several times by the Kansahoma kabal and Blackwell kept and bred several bitches from it heavily. 

" Night Train" sired " Doc " dam of "Hope" dam of " Tall Water," " Agressa," "BoelBella"

"Night Train"  ( now deceased ) belonged to a breeder by the name of David Harris who basically built his kennel of him.  John Blackwell the founder of the USBA, also used this dog very heavily.  A lotta folks in a Boerboel centric circles of  the Kansas/oklahoma region seem to think Mr. Harris walks on water, I know better.  But what ever one might say about these two gentlemen nobody can deny they bring an extraordinary amount of dog experience and dog knowledge.  And they saw fit to build on this dog, like no other.   He's probably the single most bred dog in USBA history.

Night train was purported to have Penn hip scores of  .28 .28 which was the best score in Boerboels for a considerable period of time.  

"Night Train" again below, The foundation stud of the Harris/Blackwell jugernaut 

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Boerboels: "Boelbella"

Daughter of  "Hope"

Boelbella's OFA

"Boelbella" is the most athletic of three athletic sisters, you would be hard pressed to find a dog this size that move as well as she, I really need to get some video to do her justice.  As eager to please as all three, if not quite as quick to understand as Agressa.

Boelbella here getting ready to make some pups with "Apache"

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Boerboels: "Agressa"

Daughter to "Hope"

Agressa's OFA

Agressa is the smartest of "Hope's" three daughters, the alpha of her litter, the natural leader.   She's the type of dog that has always got her eyes trained on yours; she's a thinking dog.  If i'm going on a trip and I want to take a boerboel, she's the one.

Below you see" Agressa" (center) as a pup with sister "Tallwater" on the left and sister " Boelbella" on the right; you can see who's ready for direction.

See the difference in the eye contact, just a subtile moment, but a good example

Below: Agressa all grown up

Agressa head shot

Agressa with two of her 1/2 Dogo sons ( see "Dobo" )

Agressa, like her sister Boellbella here, and like any dog I keep, is quite athletic

And they're off

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Boerboels: " Tallwater "

  Tallwater is the largest framed of "Hope's" three daughters, and for whatever reasons, has always had a strong bond with the goats; which upon realizing, I encouraged.  Her mother could refrain from killing goats, and the sisters also.  But Tall Water actually likes them, has relationships, favorites, even keeps the peace amongst them.  

 If I bring a new goat into the herd, she's makes sure it knows its place till its one of the group.  In fact the only problem I have with her as a livestock Guardian is that she's so protective of newborn kids if a mother steps away in that first day or two, she's liable to post up next to that newborn, and she won't even let its own mamma near it; which is a problem, so I do have to separate her from birthing does for the first few days.

Signature shot

  I chose the photos below to demonstrate how she often positions herself strategically.  Our pasture borders the edge of a vast wilderness, she knows from which direction predators will come, she always seems to position her self accordingly... even for a nap 

From this angle you can see how close the woods are, viewer left.  If trouble comes, it will be from there.

Tallwater again

One more

Built the way I like, not too low slung, more leg than many a Boerboel bitch.  The male version of her from the same litter topped 30"s at the shoulder.

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Website is a job Site

A few things to consider:

A.  The format is for blogs, but a blog it is not. 

B.  Navigation is best done by using the headings on the reader left, I often toy with the dates to influence where posts wind up, but for the most part scrolling will only confuse you as there is no real order that way, not even chronological.

C.  In the old days the search bar was useless but of late it has become more effective so I've started to pay more attention to the "tags" and you may well find what your looking for by punching in a given dogs name, breed, or whatever search term, if it has has been tagged

D.  I realize copy editing is in order...  but given that's been the case for sometime now and I'm no closer to getting around to it then ever.... let's just call it finished. If you're subject to trip on the occasional typo or misspelled word you'd better watch your step :)

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My Argentine Dogos

Scroll down for a quick photo trip through my Dogo's with links to their progeny and B.A.E.R. and Penn hip tests.

Negrecha.... the bomb, at around 2 years of age here

The only remaining dog from all below, she's my keeper.  Negrecha is brave, smart, tough as nails, and an exceptional mother like Saga before her. 

100 lb. female ( that would be 120-130 breeders lbs. )

 Negrecha mother of   "Tyra Banks" by Dane ( Magic )

 Negrecha mother of  "lefty" by Kangal ( Oz )

B.A.E.R tested

Penn hipped, 

Below, Negrecha as an adolescent, under a year.

And one more at about 5 weeks

 Dubbed  Negro Culo, by yours truly,  the F.C.I. felt compelled to pull rank and renamed him, sans my consent or knowledge,  Negro "Lulo"  ( chuckle) 

By any name this Brother to Negrecha is the owner of the single best Penn hip score for a Dogo in the world last I checked.  

Penn hip .27 .27 

B.A.E.R. tested also.

Negro Culo aka Lulo, again at just about one year,  below

This male was exceptionally athletic, one of the things I most prize in the Dogo, a hundred plus lbs. and giving up nothing by way of speed, power, or endurance.

And one more 

Audacity Saga: Dam of Negrecha and Negro Culo, below

Saga was the dog with whom I returned from my 7 week Dogo trek in Argentina in 2006 after having her bred to "Attraction" below.  And from whom I had 10 pups from which to choose for myself.  She was a smart dog, but wary of strangers, not as outgoing as many Dogos, but a love junkie to be sure with her people, and an exceptional mother.  like many of the Antares line, which is virtually indistinguishable from Garfunkel's Audacity kennel as the two have been working together for decades, she's was good size bitch, taller of frame than many lines, which I prefer. 

  Having realized that "los Medanos" lines were disproportionately represented in the states I wanted to bring back something else, something worthy but other than, something that could then be bred TO Los medanos lines.   Those in the know on Dogos understand the merit of Maria Angelica's Antares lines.

 Below you can see the litter complete with Negro Culo's defining mark; I was forewarned that Attraction might throw "spots" I didn't care, I was sold on his temperament.  

You can see Negrecha's black ear in the photo below, it was clear to me early on she would be my female keeper, here she is enjoying the benefits of that status 

Audacity Attraction: Sire of Negrecha and Negro Culo

  This is the dog that made my decision for me; after traveling thousands of miles and looking at dozens of Dogos in Argentina.  The single most impressive Dogo I’ve met in all my travels, physically and otherwise. The first thing one notices about Attraction is his size; easily 31 inches and at least 150 lbs.  the second is his movement, as graceful and light on his feet as an athletic dog half that size.  But the most impressive thing, for me, was his temperament, his intelligence, his nerve.

 Albert Garfunkel ( owner of Audacity kennel ) has more champions in more countries than any other Dogo breeder in the world, I couldn't  care less.  Attraction is the dog that accompanied his wife when she went out, in a place where car jackings are so common they have a “guard” sitting in a booth whose job is watch for vehicles who’s drivers are being forcibly controlled going in or out of these gaited communites, like Alberts, within which all live in small gaited compounds, walls within walls. 

  Attraction was the family guardian, the one they let roam their compound at night; but perhaps more importantly also the one that was out with their children and their friends during the day.  And the only dog of many owned by Albert that he chose to do Schutzund work with.

 I hesitate to repeat in a public forum some of what I know about this dog; But having met him, having looked in his eyes, I would say he belongs in that rarified class of dogs unimpressed with humanity.  Not an aggressive dog mind you, not at all, just fearless.

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Kango "Lefty" ( kangal x Dogo )

Aka "The olympic Schizophrenic"

 Adolescent Lefty below hanging out with a newborn goat kid, 

Lefty's photo album

Lefty's fellow KANGO litter-mates album 

 So, now that we've done it, we've thanked the president of the the Kangal Dog Club of America for his inspiration, and expressed our heart felt disregard to the Kangal and Dogo purists everywhere... what did we get ?

  Mostly I'd say what we got was pleasant surprises.  I kept one, "Lefty," but I've gotten quite a bit of feedback from owners of his litter mates and the general picture is pretty consistent.   Somehow in crossing two very serious, pretty hard, and relatively aggressive dogs..... we actually got something easier to manage than either parent in many regards.

 Who'd a thunk it ?  Experienced dog crossers might.  I've heard similar refrains with a whole slew of bandog/pit dog type crosses.  It's more art than science to be sure, but anecdotes do form patterns in numbers

 But I'm going to concentrate on Lefty, because that's what I know, first hand.  And the biggest and most pleasant surprise with him is that he can be trusted as a stock guardian.  I didn't bill any of these dogs as such, nor would I, and I do crosses better suited to that end.  But the fact remains with no particular training he has learned to leave my critters alone.  That is a thing a Dogo really can't be taught.  If Lefty were one of Mendel's Peas we might be tempted to say a Dogos prey drive is recessive to a Kangals lack there of, of course it's not that simple.  But for practical purposes it might as well be.

 The other big surprise is he demonstrates a minimal amount of dog aggression.  Given the relatively high amount of that in both parent breeds I was frankly a little concerned.  Turns out Lefty, and from what I hear, his litter mates, are relative gentlemen of the Canine world.  Those are the big surprises.

 Here's what's not.  He roams more than a Dogo, less than a Kangal.  His coat is in between.  His independence level is in between.  His biddability seems to oscillate between both extremes.  And he's extremely smart, like both parents, even if his thinking is not quite like either, he is definitely a thinking dog.

 Lefty is very, very good with all things small; children, puppies, goats kids etc.  He seems to have gotten the protective thing from the kangal along with a healthy dose of self awareness ( won't lick a toddler over like a dogo ) and the nurturing, licking tendency of the Dogo.   I've witnessed Lefty dutifully clean the wound of a male dog "Mandela" between growls, as if to say hold still while I clean this, or I'm gonna kick your a$$.

 Lefty does exhibit prey drive, more so than his Kangal father, in fact he goes a little crazy if I don't let him get after anything that he suspects is lurking.  Bottom line, he's working for me here on and around my land, and he's great out in public, I couldn't ask for a whole lot more.  

 And though I don't think one example of a cross necessarily predicts all, Lefty is deadly serious about protecting people.  And not just me and mine.  I lent him to a lady friend that needed protection from people, and he backed two gentlemen he deemed threatening to her into a wall in short order, no barking, teeth barred, ready to bite... and yet she was able to call him off.  This is the same dog she takes to work, he likes people, in fact one of the gentlemen he happily taken a pat on the head from in a different location, but he was in her space to quick on this occasion and he took issue, he's very protective, by nature.

Physically he's a very tall athletic looking dog, 30 plus inches at the shoulder, but not too heavy, with a beautiful light footed floating movement that would be better filmed then typed at ( video is on the to do list ) When people see him they think he's some sort of Dane cross, and perhaps the best thing about him is... they're wrong.  Lefty is on the scale of a Dane, just minus any of the associated pitfalls of the dane.

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Olympic Quatros

( Germany/Argentina x  Turkey/S. Africa )

Dane/Dogo x Kangal/Boerboel

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Kangoel x Dango =1/4 kangal 1/4 Boerboel 1/4 Dane 1/4 Dogo

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The Olympic Maxi-Melt

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Ghengis Afrikracker x Tyra Banks

 This is the softest combination on the menu at the moment, for those who want a big dog, but might be a little hesitant to entertain some of the less gentrified breeds.  Very large of frame, but still quite athletic, and healthier than any purebred of comparable size.  A family dog first.

 The coats thus far have varied from short to a sort of mid length with a substantial undercoat.   Colors from red and grey brindle to black with lots of deep red, brown, grey and all sorts of subtle differences.

  I raised "Quatro uno"  ( seen below) to about 10 months.  He was a big jolly fellow really, very good natured, an everyman dog, dog park material.  I've got a nine month old female here now also, she's much the same, and the feedback I've gotten is pretty consistently similar regards the general temperament.

You can see some photos of a few examples below.

Photos of my female keeper coming soon.

Quatro-uno

8wks

Quatro uno 10 months

Quatro uno 10 months

Below is "Ziggy" a Quatro from the 2010 litter ( photo album link below ) is also seen here at ten months, well over 30 inches at the shoulder already his owner says the vet expects him to reach 170 lbs.   Stay tuned for a reference link from this owner.  But I can tell you right now, Ziggy is a lover.

click Quatro  litter to see 2010 litter ( see if you can spot ziggy )

click Current to see 2011 Quattro pups, available starting Mid April