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A brilliant 2008 campaign by World Wildlife Fund (WWF) has been resurfacing thanks to a recent reddit post going viral. The campaign, called WWF Japan – Population by pixel, was created by the agency Hakuhodo C&D / Tokyo.
Oh no…
Y'all this is BAD
Wow this is a really elegant way of describing why falling populations result in a narrow and incomplete picture of the actual species
i spent the whole summer building up and adding onto my dcu (daydream cinematic universe). it‘s quite extensive now :-)
I’m gonna go off on this scene for a hot second, because this doesn’t get nearly as much attention as the talk with his mom and honestly this one hit me harder. So I’m gonna talk about why this scene is so fucking important to me.
The first line. Right out of the gate. “How long have you known?” Not, “how long have you been…you know…”, “how long have you known.” This is coming from a character we have seen (unintentionally, but still) commit homophobic microaggressions on screen at least twice now with many more implied, that difference is important.
Then when Simon answers, his response emphasizes the time they spent together when he didn’t know (Four years eating dinner together). I was sure, I was so sure his next line was going to be “why didn’t you tell me”. Because that’s how it goes right? The onus is always on the queer person, it’s always down to us. But that’s not what he says. He says “I’m sorry, I shouldn’t have missed it.”
I don’t think I can put into words what hearing an apology in that moment did to me. I really can’t, I’m pretty sure I stopped breathing for a second. And then he says “All those stupid jokes…”
He is taking responsibility for his actions. He is acknowledging that he was wrong and he is apologizing for the hurt he, however unknowingly, caused his son. This is so rare. Because the key here is, not only is this a father-son relationship, which is always more difficult because men in our society have been conditioned to never be “touchy-feely”, it’s also a parent-child relationship.
Simon is still a teenager. His father has spent 17 years being the one responsible for Simon’s care; at this point the parent is the one in the equation where the majority of power still sits. For a parent to acknowledge to a child who is still not fully an adult that they were wrong, especially when it’s a father when men are conditioned to never give ground or “show weakness” over things like this, just. It doesn’t happen.
And even when Simon gives him an out he refuses to take it. Then he makes sure Simon knows that he is loved unconditionally, and reinforces it with physical affection. And it’s not a Manly Shoulder Pat either, this is a proper full-body hug followed by a kiss on the cheek.
And after a moment of awkwardness, he actively reaches out and shows interest in engaging in the queer aspect of Simon’s life by offering to sign up to Grindr together. He’s gotten it wrong (in the most adorably dad way possible), but the point is he made the effort. He didn’t just leave it at letting Simon know he loves him, he recognized that this is an on-going presence in his child’s life and he commits to continuously being involved with and acknowledging this aspect of his son.
I am someone who has Simon’s life. I am from an upper-middle class white family with two liberal straight parents who were high school sweethearts, and I have one younger sibling. My first car was even a used Subaru station wagon, I could not make this up. This is the moment I wish I could have with my parents.
They knew/suspected I was queer for years before I finally came out to them, but they didn’t know what to do with asexuality. They were fully prepared for me to be a lesbian and I still managed to blindside them. It was completely unexpected and they hadn’t heard of it so they didn’t know what to do about it. And we are the pinnacle of a WASP stereotype, so all of us suck at talking about our feelings. So while my parents never rejected me, they never tried to “fix” me, and they don’t really drop hints about me “settling down one day”, they also never talk about it with me. I assume because they don’t know how to and they don’t want to misstep.
We will have entire conversations about queer issues with no acknowledgement whatsoever that I am part of the group that issue pertains to. They have never tried to talk to me about what asexuality is, asked me to explain it, or asked about how to be involved in that aspect of my life. Which is unusual for them, both have always taken an active interest in both of their children’s activities. And there’s only so many times I can be the one to talk about the elephant in the room because it’s fucking exhausting.
So yeah. This scene, this moment, hit me like a semi truck. Because god do I want that in my life.
I’m crying
here’s a story about changelings
reposted from my old blog, which got deleted: Mary was a beautiful baby, sweet and affectionate, but by the time she’s three she’s turned difficult and strange, with fey moods and a stubborn mouth that screams and bites but never says mama. But her mother’s well-used to hard work with little thanks, and when the village gossips wag their tongues she just shrugs, and pulls her difficult child away from their precious, perfect blossoms, before the bites draw blood. Mary’s mother doesn’t drown her in a bucket of saltwater, and she doesn’t take up the silver knife the wife of the village priest leaves out for her one Sunday brunch. She gives her daughter yarn, instead, and instead of a rowan stake through her inhuman heart she gives her a child’s first loom, oak and ash. She lets her vicious, uncooperative fairy daughter entertain herself with games of her own devising, in as much peace and comfort as either of them can manage. Mary grows up strangely, as a strange child would, learning everything in all the wrong order, and biting a great deal more than she should. But she also learns to weave, and takes to it with a grand passion. Soon enough she knows more than her mother–which isn’t all that much–and is striking out into unknown territory, turning out odd new knots and weaves, patterns as complex as spiderwebs and spellrings. “Aren’t you clever,” her mother says, of her work, and leaves her to her wool and flax and whatnot. Mary’s not biting anymore, and she smiles more than she frowns, and that’s about as much, her mother figures, as anyone should hope for from their child. Mary still cries sometimes, when the other girls reject her for her strange graces, her odd slow way of talking, her restless reaching fluttering hands that have learned to spin but never to settle. The other girls call her freak, witchblood, hobgoblin. “I don’t remember girls being quite so stupid when I was that age,” her mother says, brushing Mary’s hair smooth and steady like they’ve both learned to enjoy, smooth as a skein of silk. “Time was, you knew not to insult anyone you might need to flatter later. ‘Specially when you don’t know if they’re going to grow wings or horns or whatnot. Serve ‘em all right if you ever figure out curses.” “I want to go back,” Mary says. “I want to go home, to where I came from, where there’s people like me. If I’m a fairy’s child I should be in fairyland, and no one would call me a freak.” “Aye, well, I’d miss you though,” her mother says. “And I expect there’s stupid folk everywhere, even in fairyland. Cruel folk, too. You just have to make the best of things where you are, being my child instead.” Mary learns to read well enough, in between the weaving, especially when her mother tracks down the traveling booktraders and comes home with slim, precious manuals on dyes and stains and mordants, on pigments and patterns, diagrams too arcane for her own eyes but which make her daughter’s eyes shine. “We need an herb garden,” her daughter says, hands busy, flipping from page to page, pulling on her hair, twisting in her skirt, itching for a project. “Yarrow, and madder, and woad and weld…” “Well, start digging,” her mother says. “Won’t do you a harm to get out of the house now’n then.” Mary doesn’t like dirt but she’s learned determination well enough from her mother. She digs and digs, and plants what she’s given, and the first year doesn’t turn out so well but the second’s better, and by the third a cauldron’s always simmering something over the fire, and Mary’s taking in orders from girls five years older or more, turning out vivid bolts and spools and skeins of red and gold and blue, restless fingers dancing like they’ve summoned down the rainbow. Her mother figures she probably has. “Just as well you never got the hang of curses,” she says, admiring her bright new skirts. “I like this sort of trick a lot better.” Mary smiles, rocking back and forth on her heels, fingers already fluttering to find the next project. She finally grows up tall and fair, if a bit stooped and squinty, and time and age seem to calm her unhappy mouth about as well as it does for human children. Word gets around she never lies or breaks a bargain, and if the first seems odd for a fairy’s child then the second one seems fit enough. The undyed stacks of taken orders grow taller, the dyed lots of filled orders grow brighter, the loom in the corner for Mary’s own creations grows stranger and more complex. Mary’s hands callus just like her mother’s, become as strong and tough and smooth as the oak and ash of her needles and frames, though they never fall still. “Do you ever wonder what your real daughter would be like?” the priest’s wife asks, once. Mary’s mother snorts. “She wouldn’t be worth a damn at weaving,” she says. “Lord knows I never was. No, I’ll keep what I’ve been given and thank the givers kindly. It was a fair enough trade for me. Good day, ma’am.” Mary brings her mother sweet chamomile tea, that night, and a warm shawl in all the colors of a garden, and a hairbrush. In the morning, the priest’s son comes round, with payment for his mother’s pretty new dress and a shy smile just for Mary. He thinks her hair is nice, and her hands are even nicer, vibrant in their strength and skill and endless motion. They all live happily ever after. * Here’s another story: Gregor grew fast, even for a boy, grew tall and big and healthy and began shoving his older siblings around early. He was blunt and strange and flew into rages over odd things, over the taste of his porridge or the scratch of his shirt, over the sound of rain hammering on the roof, over being touched when he didn’t expect it and sometimes even when he did. He never wore shoes if he could help it and he could tell you the number of nails in the floorboards without looking, and his favorite thing was to sit in the pantry and run his hands through the bags of dry barley and corn and oat. Considering as how he had fists like a young ox by the time he was five, his family left him to it. “He’s a changeling,” his father said to his wife, expecting an argument, but men are often the last to know anything about their children, and his wife only shrugged and nodded, like the matter was already settled, and that was that. They didn’t bind Gregor in iron and leave him in the woods for his own kind to take back. They didn’t dig him a grave and load him into it early. They worked out what made Gregor angry, in much the same way they figured out the personal constellations of emotion for each of their other sons, and when spring came, Gregor’s father taught him about sprouts, and when autumn came, Gregor’s father taught him about sheaves. Meanwhile his mother didn’t mind his quiet company around the house, the way he always knew where she’d left the kettle, or the mending, because she was forgetful and he never missed a detail. “Pity you’re not a girl, you’d never drop a stitch of knitting,” she tells Gregor, in the winter, watching him shell peas. His brothers wrestle and yell before the hearth fire, but her fairy child just works quietly, turning peas by their threes and fours into the bowl. “You know exactly how many you’ve got there, don’t you?” she says. “Six hundred and thirteen,” he says, in his quiet, precise way. His mother says “Very good,” and never says Pity you’re not human. He smiles just like one, if not for quite the same reasons. The next autumn he’s seven, a lucky number that pleases him immensely, and his father takes him along to the mill with the grain. “What you got there?” The miller asks them. “Sixty measures of Prince barley, thirty two measures of Hare’s Ear corn, and eighteen of Abernathy Blue Slate oats,” Gregor says. “Total weight is three hundred fifty pounds, or near enough. Our horse is named Madam. The wagon doesn’t have a name. I’m Gregor.” “My son,” his father says. “The changeling one.” “Bit sharper’n your others, ain’t he?” the miller says, and his father laughs. Gregor feels proud and excited and shy, and it dries up all his words, sticks them in his throat. The mill is overwhelming, but the miller is kind, and tells him the name of each and every part when he points at it, and the names of all the grain in all the bags waiting for him to get to them. “Didn’t know the fair folk were much for machinery,” the miller says. Gregor shrugs. “I like seeds,” he says, each word shelled out with careful concentration. “And names. And numbers.” “Aye, well. Suppose that’d do it. Want t’help me load up the grist?” They leave the grain with the miller, who tells Gregor’s father to bring him back ‘round when he comes to pick up the cornflour and cracked barley and rolled oats. Gregor falls asleep in the nameless wagon on the way back, and when he wakes up he goes right back to the pantry, where the rest of the seeds are left, and he runs his hands through the shifting, soothing textures and thinks about turning wheels, about windspeed and counterweights. When he’s twelve–another lucky number–he goes to live in the mill with the miller, and he never leaves, and he lives happily ever after. * Here’s another: James is a small boy who likes animals much more than people, which doesn’t bother his parents overmuch, as someone needs to watch the sheep and make the sheepdogs mind. James learns the whistles and calls along with the lambs and puppies, and by the time he’s six he’s out all day, tending to the flock. His dad gives him a knife and his mom gives him a knapsack, and the sheepdogs give him doggy kisses and the sheep don’t give him too much trouble, considering. “It’s not right for a boy to have so few complaints,” his mother says, once, when he’s about eight. “Probably ain’t right for his parents to have so few complaints about their boy, neither,” his dad says. That’s about the end of it. James’ parents aren’t very talkative, either. They live the routines of a farm, up at dawn and down by dusk, clucking softly to the chickens and calling harshly to the goats, and James grows up slow but happy. When James is eleven, he’s sent to school, because he’s going to be a man and a man should know his numbers. He gets in fights for the first time in his life, unused to peers with two legs and loud mouths and quick fists. He doesn’t like the feel of slate and chalk against his fingers, or the harsh bite of a wooden bench against his legs. He doesn’t like the rules: rules for math, rules for meals, rules for sitting down and speaking when you’re spoken to and wearing shoes all day and sitting under a low ceiling in a crowded room with no sheep or sheepdogs. Not even a puppy. But his teacher is a good woman, patient and experienced, and James isn’t the first miserable, rocking, kicking, crying lost lamb ever handed into her care. She herds the other boys away from him, when she can, and lets him sit in the corner by the door, and have a soft rag to hold his slate and chalk with, so they don’t gnaw so dryly at his fingers. James learns his numbers well enough, eventually, but he also learns with the abruptness of any lamb taking their first few steps–tottering straight into a gallop–to read. Familiar with the sort of things a strange boy needs to know, his teacher gives him myths and legends and fairytales, and steps back. James reads about Arthur and Morgana, about Hercules and Odysseus, about djinni and banshee and brownies and bargains and quests and how sometimes, something that looks human is left to try and stumble along in the humans’ world, step by uncertain step, as best they can. James never comes to enjoy writing. He learns to talk, instead, full tilt, a leaping joyous gambol, and after a time no one wants to hit him anymore. The other boys sit next to him, instead, with their mouths closed, and their hands quiet on their knees. “Let’s hear from James,” the men at the alehouse say, years later, when he’s become a man who still spends more time with sheep than anyone else, but who always comes back into town with something grand waiting for his friends on his tongue. “What’ve you got for us tonight, eh?” James finishes his pint, and stands up, and says, “Here’s a story about changelings.”
in case you were wondering if anyone will remember your random acts of kindness:
when i was in kindergarten, i met a boy named jordan. i don’t remember meeting him. i remember knowing him when, one day before dismissal, he came up and asked if he could be my friend. i was a painfully shy kid, and he was friendly and fun and talked a lot, so i said yes. we were the kind of friends that kindergarteners are: buddies during snack time, sharing the best crayons when we colored, and never even thinking that it could go outside of the walls of our school. it was fine. it was great. i had a friend. he’s the first friend i ever made on my own. he’s the first person who made me realise that i could.
my next clear memory of jordan comes when i was in fourth grade. in the morning, i was talking to kristen, who was one of my only friends at that point. she was looking forward to gym, because it was dodgeball day. i was not; i was always picked last in gym class, no matter who the team captains were. you don’t pick the slow-moving kid with glasses if you want to win, and grade-schoolers can be cruel. jordan heard, though; i remember that, because i remember him looking at me as i pointed out how much i wasn’t looking forward to gym, and i remember my cheeks burning because this popular kid heard about my problems.
we had lunch, and math, and finally gym to round out the day. gym, and dodgeball, and riley being one captain, and jordan being the other. and jordan, who won the coin toss, who got his pick of any kid in our class, picking me first. he didn’t even hesitate. he called my name, he pointed to me, and he smiled at me when i walked up to stand next to him. when riley laughed and picked derek for his team and taunted jordan about how he was going to lose, jordan laughed right back and told him that with me on his team, he was definitely going to win. (i don’t remember if we won or not. we probably didn’t. all i remember is not hating dodgeball for one day, and that was enough.)
fast-forward another few years, to another gym class in another school. we were doing baseball, which was my own personal hell in seventh grade. my eyesight hadn’t gotten any better, and i was too tall, too skinny, too out of touch with how to move my limbs to possibly make the bat and the ball connect. rules were rules, though, and no matter how far back in the batting line i stood, nobody was allowed to go back in the building until everyone had a chance. i made myself last every chance i could, because by that point anyone who was interested in the sport had gotten their fill and wandered away, and it didn’t matter that i stuck my elbows out and hunched over the plate and swung and swung and swung at balls that kept whizzing by me and smacking into the fence.
this day, though, this day was the worst day, because i had to be in the middle of the lineup. i don’t remember why; i only remember the sick feeling in my stomach, the feeling that the class would laugh at me as i stood there praying i didn’t move the wrong way and get hit with the ball. when i got up to home plate, i grabbed the bat and stood there and stared at the pitching mound, and jordan smiled back at me. i was clearly nervous; it was no secret that i hated gym, wasn’t any good at it. there were two kids on bases in the field, and someone in the back made a comment about striking me out; one of the kids on base groaned about how he was just going to steal home. jordan kept smiling as he walked off the mound, came up next to me, and quietly asked if he could show me how to hold the bat, how to stand. he demonstrated how to swing, and told me to just try to hit it gently. “just like this,” he said, and held the bat out in front of himself. bunting. i knew the name, even if i’d never been able to pull it off before. “hold it there. you’ll hit the ball.”
i nodded. i didn’t care. i wanted it to be over with.
he walked back to the mound, looked back and me, and then took a few steps forward. “just like i said,” he told me, and i nodded again. he tossed the ball very gently, and i held the bat out, and miracle of miracles, i bunted the ball. “run, run,” he yelled, making a ridiculous dive for the ball, kicking it out of the way of any of the outfielders who were catching on and heading for it. “first base!”
i ran. i made it to first base. i laughed, because i had never been able to do that before, and jordan turned and smiled at me before returning to the mound and striking out the next three people at bat, one right after the other.
now consider this: i met jordan almost twenty-five years ago. i remember these things, these small kindnesses, the things he didn’t have to do but did anyway. he probably doesn’t remember doing any of them. he probably doesn’t even remember me, at this point, and that’s fine. i remember his kindness when there wasn’t a ton to be had, and i remember him smiling when everyone else was laughing at me.
kindness matters. thanks for being kind, jordan. and to everyone else who has been kind, to me or to someone else: thank you, too. your kindness is noted, is appreciated, is remembered.
You ever see a pretty dress, a well-organised notebook, a peculiar balcony or read one line of poetry and get the overwhelming urge to reinvent yourself
pick up your sword, girl. raise your blade, child. cut down your enemies, girl.
you are a queen before you are a wife. you are a knight before you are a daughter. you are a dragon before you are a woman.
you carry the world upon your shoulders but you do not relent. you lift the spirits of the fallen but you do not crumble. you raise the morale of the soldiers but you do not fail.
you are a goddess. you are a queen. you are atlas.
and atlas does not kneel.
— atlas ;; a.e.w
friend: i never knew u were gay
me: ya it wasnt relevant to your plot didnt want to seem like i was diverse for no reason :/
kelley o’hara kissing her girlfriend is so important and here’s why
megan rapinoe, ashlyn harris, and ali krieger are the literal gay icons of the uswnt and i am all for it. i’m in love with how they’re representing the LGBTQ+ community and i love how damn vocal they are about their queerness. it’s inspiring to know that there are people out there who are candidly themselves and are not sorry for it. but as a bisexual woman still trying to understand and explore her sexuality, i sometimes find it difficult to relate to and resonate with people who are so bold, vocal, and comfortable to be queer.
there are still people in my life who don’t know that i’m bisexual - my parents included - and it’s sometimes difficult to wrap my head around coming out to them and fully coming out on all my social media accounts. despite being aware of my queerness since my sophomore year of high school, i still feel so self-conscious about it. i still hesitate when i want to talk to my friends about a cute girl i saw at the mall today. i still force myself to only talk about boys when talking to colleagues about relationships. it’s just not natural for me to openly talk about my interest in women. so when i scrolled through instagram and found a picture of kelley o’hara kissing her girlfriend, i felt like something clicked.
yeah of course i lost my shit when i found out that she was queer. i didn’t know what to do with myself for a solid half hour but kelley’s been one of my favorite players since back in 2012 when she converted to an outside back position - the position i played throughout middle school and high school - and dominated the 2012 olympics. her swagger, confidence, personality, style, versatility, and skill are things that i admire about her. she’s someone i’m so proud to be looking up to. and yeah, i’m probably already biased but nonetheless, the fact that kelley never talked about her sexuality and kept her dating life private but went on and kissed her girlfriend on national tv after winning the damn world cup is so important.
i think that kelley represents the people who aren’t really comfortable with telling the whole world that they’re queer but are still unapologetically proud to be who they are. people who are still in the closet and are trying to come to terms with their sexuality will look at this moment and think “wow, maybe this really is normal.” kelley went up to the stands to kiss her girlfriend because she could and she wanted to. she didn’t need to announce her queerness to the press. she didn’t need to come out on social media. she didn’t need to explain herself. she was just doing the same thing her straight teammates were doing. not everyone is comfortable announcing and constantly vocalizing their queerness and that’s okay. so thank you, kelley for showing me that maybe i don’t even need to tell the whole world that i’m bi. i just need to kiss my girlfriend when i damn well want to.
Sabrina&Nick
You guys dont understand how much i love them💖👑🌼👏 #nabrina
Smithereens | twenty one pilots
Use somebody | kings of leon
Love lies | Khalid, Normani
Mercy | Shawn mendes
Closer | kings of leon
Highway tune | Greta van fleet
Sunflower | Post Malone, Swae lee
You da one | Rihanna
Lips | Sachi
Heartburn | Wafia
You haunt me | Sir sly
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I’m slowly going to add to this playlist 💖🤙
i spend a lot of time daydreaming about my other lives
about the me who lives out in the middle of the new england countryside, where i’m quite lonely, but i have a couple goats and cows and chickens that i look after, and i like to make jam and i have an enormous huge crush on my beautiful neighbor who trades me her honey, and i invite her over for tea a little too often to not be super obvious
the me who was born and raised in new york city, who’s sharper and angrier, yet still so kind, with a fire in her eyes and shards in her words, who lives in a awful gross 2 bedroom apartment with 4 other people and loves the people in her life fiercely and is obscene about her art and smokes too much and doesn’t sleep enough, ever,
the me who went on a backpacking trip through europe after graduation with a desperate need to escape but it was a lot harsher than she thought but she fell in love halfway through france and lives in a tiny city with the love of her life and doesn’t talk to anyone she used to know; she still calls her mother sometimes, but no one knows where she is and she has never felt so free (she is still working on her french)
the me who is on the road to her first oscar, who manages to dodge out of all the gossip rags, who gets to do beautiful work in a city that she hates but she endures and she is not sure if this is what she wanted but it’s what she has so maybe she’ll run with it for now
the me who lives in a tiny studio somewhere in stockholm, a me who paints and draws her nights away and spends her mornings kneading bread and folding dough for hours and hours and she never wears makeup and the city is both so busy and so quiet and she works as an english tour guide on the weekends at the palace (her swedish is almost perfect, though)
and the me here, with a loud head and a messy kitchen and a giant heart who spends too much time thinking about all the things she is not instead of focusing on the wonder of what she is
Some house fashions
Keira Knightley was SEVENTEEN in the first pirates of the caribbean movie and now she’s THIRTY and she looks EXACTLY THE SAME. And by “exactly the same” I mean at seventeen she looked like she was in her mid twenties and possessed beauty and elegance too perfect for this world, like the physical manifestation of the word ethereal, and can anyone actually discern any sign of her aging in the last 13 years? has she honestly ever aged? will she ever? I’d say it’s witchcraft or aliens but I think the most reasonable explanation is that she’s Keira Knightley
Found another immortal
if you:
-say animal welfare doesn’t matter in agriculture
-say the way an animal was raised doesn’t matter if they later die, regardless of how they die
-want domesticated species to go extinct
-think domesticated or tamed animals should be released into the wild
-oppose zoos and their conservation programs, regardless of the treatment of their animals
-force your carvinorous pets to be vegan or support others who do
-support PETA, who routinely kill healthy, adoptable animals
then don’t say you love animals!
Some of these arguments are so inherently flawed.
½) Obviously, it’s better for animals to be treated better before they’re eventually murdered. But the fact remains: they’re killed for no reason. If I kept you against your will for a few months after your birth then killed you, is it really all that better for you if I treated you well before I murdered you? No! The fact is that killing these animals for a completely selfish reason is inherently immoral in itself.
3) The vast majority of “domesticated species” like cows, pigs, and chickens were bred to be killed as early as possible. Even if they’re not slaughtered at a young age, the majority of their short lives will be riddled with health problems. I’ve known rescued chickens so far they couldn’t stand up—that’s not their fault, it’s the way they were bred. The bottom line is that they won’t ever live happy lives the way we’ve bred them. Why on earth would you want to keep breeding these poor animals so that they can continue to suffer?
5) Zoos suck. Setting aside their treatment of animals and the fact that they imprison non-endangered animals against their will just to make a buck (which is inherently immoral), their conservation programs just don’t work. Only 18% of the animals in zoos are endangered, and according to the Association of Zoos and Aquariums, less than 1% of all of the average zoo’s profits are spend on conservation. Even if the pitiful amount of money zoos are spending on conservation went towards something other than a captive breeding program to fill their exhibits, the fact is that many other reputable organizations exist that do the same work, only better. If you care about endangered species, don’t support zoos. Check out awesome organizations that are actually making a difference, like the World Wildlife Fund and the Sea Shepard Conservationist Society.
6) I guarantee you that practically no one does this. I’ve worked at a veterinarian’s office as a tech for the past few years, and I have never once seen a naturally carnivorous or omnivorous animal forced into veganism.
7) To be clear, PETA as an organization isn’t my favorite. But the fact is that condemning them for humanely euthanizing healthy, adoptable animals is short-sighted and hypocritical. I guarantee you that your local shelters euthanize healthy, adoptable animals every day, and big, national, widely-respected organizations like the Humane Society do too. I don’t like it, no one does. But more animals are bred and surrendered than there are people willing to adopt them, and there’s not enough money to keep all these animals alive and healthy. So we as the human stewards of these animals have a choice to make: we either humanely euthanize them, or we let them starve to death in overcrowded shelters. This problem won’t be fixed until people stop breeding animals–if your animal was purchased from a pet store or a breeder, you’re part of the problem. You are the reason so many healthy, adoptable animals have to be euthanized. Adopt, don’t shop.
TL; DR: Regardless of how they’re treated, killing animals when it’s not strictly necessary is immoral. “Domesticated” species were bred to produce as much meat as possible in as little time possible, so they have so many health defects that it’s just awful to keep breeding them into existence so they can continue to suffer. Zoos spend less than 1% of their profits on conservation, and it doesn’t even work, while many other orgs do the same work better. Practically no one forces their pets to be vegan. The euthanization of healthy, adoptable animals is an unfortunate necessity, as their isn’t enough money to keep these animals alive, so we choose between humanely euthanizing them or letting them starve to death.
“For no reason” 🙄
@theoreticallystillhere as promised, here’s the full breakdown. I look forward to your response! :)
“Obviously, it’s better for animals to be treated better before they’re eventually murdered [but] is it really all that better for you if I treated you well before I murdered you? No!”
You’re contradicting yourself in this paragraph. I’ll assume the conclusion better reflects your views than the introduction (i.e., you believe it doesn’t matter how much an animal is tortured if it’s eventually killed), I just felt like pointing that out before continuing.
“they’re killed for no reason”
Animals are killed for human food, pet food, population control, pest control, scientific experiments, and ‘for their own good’ (i.e., euthanasia), among other things. Those are reasons. They might not be good reasons in your opinion, but they are reasons nonetheless, and I’m sure you know that already. So instead of just quitting at ‘no reason’, it would make more sense to argue against these reasons.
“If I kept you against your will for a few months after your birth then killed you, is it really all that better for you if I treated you well before I murdered you? No!”
Yes, I would argue. I’ve got a pretty utilitarian world-view, so yes, there absolutely is a difference between being tortured 24/7 for years vs being pampered every second of your life before eventually being killed in my opinion. I can see how the difference wouldn’t matter if you’re arguing from a consequentialist philosophy, but if you do that, you’d also have to argue that there’s no reason to, for example, differentiate between manslaughter and murder in the law. In other words, following the logic you’ve set up here, it doesn’t matter if I meticulously planned out the murder of my father and went through with it, or if I dropped something on his head and killed him by accident; I’d deserve the same punishment no matter what. Do you see the problem with applying this philosophy to real life?
“The fact is that killing these animals for a completely selfish reason is inherently immoral in itself.”
Why? You have to argue for why. I won’t assume anything about your personal moral philosophy here, so please explain it to me. Why is killing an animal wrong? Do ticks and mosquitoes count as animals? How about bacteria? Why does this only go for certain members of the kingdom Animalia and not Plantae or Protista or Fungi, etc.? Is the killing of a cow worse than a dog? How about a tuna vs. a dolphin? I don’t believe any living creature wants to die, so why is it okay to kill some and not others?
“The vast majority of “domesticated species” like cows, pigs, and chickens were bred to be killed as early as possible. Even if they’re not slaughtered at a young age, the majority of their short lives will be riddled with health problems. I’ve known rescued chickens so far [do you mean fat?] they couldn’t stand up—that’s not their fault, it’s the way they were bred.”
Citation needed. With tens and tens and tens of animals, from silk worms and camels to horses and dogs, having been domesticated, and a lot of these species having been bred into different breeds with different purposes, you cannot say ‘the vast majority’ so casually. Even if we only look at Western commercial breeds, which I assume is what you mean, this still isn’t accurate. Broiler chickens will not grow until they die - as witnessed by their continued breeding - unless they’re fed ad libitum (like on meat farms). Like labrador retrievers, they’re constantly hungry and bred to put on weight very easily, but it’s not something that can’t be controlled with a well-planned diet.[1]
If you let a labrador eat as much as it wanted, it would get crippling arthritis and elbow dysplasia and lose its ability to walk too. While physical health in relation to their weight isn’t a problem if broiler breeds are kept right, their hunger is a welfare issue, and - pardon my pettiness but - guess what? Agriculture/animal science/veterinary students and scientists are working on fixing this issue.[2] [3] [4] Animal rights activists are doing nothing to help these chickens, except for ‘rescuing them’ and feeding them to death, like in your anecdote, and dreaming about a fantasy world where production chickens don’t exist.
ID: a picture of a broiler breeder farm, showing the chickens in their living quarters. Their bedding/scratching area, nest boxes, and feeding/watering area are marked. All the chickens are clean, healthy, and walking around despite being broiler chickens. [source].
I can’t speak for other countries but when it comes to pigs, in Denmark we use a DanBred Duroc/Danish landrace/Yorkshire mix that has specifically been bred for good leg conformation and have no more health problems than ‘pet’ breeds.[5] Where are you getting the idea that pigs get sick just from living?
I have no comment on the issue of cow health in relation to their breed, as there are no problems with regular industrial breeds. I have anecdotal evidence that Holstein Friesians live generally shorter lives than Jerseys, just like a Great Dane has a shorter life than a Shiba Inu. A few dairy breeds more frequently get hoof problems than others (again, Holstein vs Jersey).[6] Purebred Belgian Blue cattle have very difficult calvings, but they aren’t being bred pure outside of Belgium, and BB-mixes actually have easier calvings than purebred Holsteins and Simmentals.[7] That’s about all the breed-related health issues I can think of.
Also, why did you put ‘domesticated species’ in quotation marks? Domestication is a real thing that happens. It’s not a buzzword. It’s an actual evolutionary process. Here are some articles about it to get you started: [8] [9] [10]
“Zoos suck [with regards to] their treatment of animals …”
AZA-accredited zoos aren’t roadside zoos. Unless you’ve never been to an accredited zoo, I don’t see how you could have a problem with their treatment of animals. It’s certainly better than what even the best sanctuaries so far have been able to give them. I’ll let the pictures of enclosures speak for themselves, but here are AZA’s restrictions on habitats and enrichment.[11] Remember that sanctuaries are not subject to these restrictions and often keep their animals in small chain link cages because that’s all they can afford.
ID: Elephants frolicking in an artificial pond, surrounded by luch grass and trees. There’s a lot of space for them to roam and to get away from the eyes of human visitors. Exhibit at Sedgwick County Zoo. [source].
ID: A pond habitat so large you can barely spot the animals. A freshwater crocodile is lying in the water and a tortoise is walking on the shore. Exhibit at the San Diego Zoo. [source].
ID: Map/floor plan of the orangutan exhibit at the Indianapolis Zoo, showing the large indoor area, the smaller green outdoor area, and the huge ‘Hutan Trail’ outdoor climbing facilities. [source].
ID: An outdoor aviary featuring turkey vultures, Japanese golden eagles, Steller’s sea eagles, bateleurs, and white-tailed sea eagles, all with enough room for both flight and privacy. Exhibit at the Tama Zoo. [source].
Exhibits like this are standard at AZA zoos. Meanwhile sanctuary exhibits tend to look like this:
ID: Three tigers walking together behind a chain link fence. Their enclosure is grass-covered, but several areas have been walked bare. In the background, a shed and various climbing enrichment can be seen. Exhibit at the Catty Shack Ranch Wildlife Sanctuary. [source].
ID: A capuchin monkey in an enclosure of the bare minimum size, with welded wire mesh fencing. Its enrichment consists of branches for climbing, a baby swing, and dog toys, among other similar things. Exhibit at the Forever Wild Exotic Animal Sanctuary. [source].
ID: Ropes, netting, old blankets, and teddy bears strung up under a roof. Several bats are roosting around the blanket. The walls are stained by guano, but there’s enough space for flight. Exhibit at Atalef Bat Sanctuary. [source].
The enclosures at these sanctuaries are not bad enclosures and I am sure the animals are satisfied with them! What I’m saying is not that these sanctuaries are bad, but rather that if an accredited zoo kept animals like this, people would riot.
“Zoos suck [with regards to] the fact that they imprison non-endangered animals against their will just to make a buck (which is inherently immoral) …”
What’s inherently wrong with imprisoning non-endangered animals? Are you against people keeping pets as well? Having a dog is literally imprisoning a non-endangered animal. You can’t argue that a dog is a willing prisoner, while a zebra is not unless you have some serious ethological sources on hand re: animals’ desires. Likewise, you need some sound moral philosophy to argue that keeping an animal for profit is more immoral than simply keeping an animal. I’d appreciate that you keep in mind how being kept for profit supposedly makes the animal’s life inherently worse, and keep in mind that any profits are very likely to go directly to the animal’s own upkeep and to improvements on its quality of life (i.e. big zoos can afford huge enclosures with plenty of enrichment, 24/7 vet care, and scientists on their staff to make sure their care is species appropriate, while sanctuaries usually cannot).
“[Zoos’] conservation programs just don’t work. Only 18% of the animals in zoos are endangered, and according to the Association of Zoos and Aquariums, less than 1% of all of the average zoo’s profits are spend [sic] on conservation.”
Not all conservation programs are ex situ. In other words, zoos can, and do, participate in conservation programs without having endangered species in their collection, via in situ work.[12] There have been plenty of successful breeding programs in captivity. Why do you think Père David’s deer and Simandoa cave roaches still exist? Why do you think there’s a stable population of natterjack toads in Refsvindinge, Denmark? Why do you think giant pandas were recently upgraded from Endangered to Vulnerable? It’s all the work of captive breeding by zoos, scientists, ranchers, and amateur hobbyists.
And where do you think the proceeds from ticket sales, donations, grants, and so on end up? If you look at the budget of any accredited zoo or aquarium (usually listed somewhere on their website), you’ll see that they spend the vast majority of their money directly on their staff and animals. There’s very little profit in running even a popular zoo, and the administration can assure you that said profit goes directly to renovating exhibits and the like. It doesn’t get pocketed by a CEO. It all returns to the zoo. As an example, here’s Copenhagen Zoo’s latest report (2017):
As you can see, their total, after all income, expenses, taxes, and interests had been calculated was… 2,2 million DKK. That’s roughly 337k USD. That’s not at all a large profit. I was at a lecture with one of their hired zoologists (Mikkel Stelvig, his name is listed on their website, so I feel comfortable sharing it) a couple of months ago and actually asked him about this because I feel like it’s necessary information. He told us that any profit like that goes directly to improving exhibits. I implore you to look at various zoos’ budgets and email them if you have any questions, instead of just assuming zoos are glorified circuses with a greedy ringleader at the top.
Additionally, research is indispensable with regards to conservation, and all AZA zoos are constantly contributing to research projects. At Copenhagen Zoo (the one I’m most familiar with) alone, they finished 5 projects last year, are currently helping with at least 4 PhD’s and 5 theses, and are working on 9 other research projects. Considering many projects can take several years, that’s a hell of a commitment. And yes, these projects are a huge help in conservation, covering anything from muskox movement patterns in North-East Greenland to the ecological role of macaques in Baluran National Park.
Lastly, a lot of zoos work closely together with various conservation groups and help them raise funds. Brevard Zoo raises funds for the Little Fireface Project. The Racine Zoo supports the Sea Turtle Conservancy. Copenhagen Zoo supports Tacugama Chimpanzee Sanctuary. Most zoos have one or more partnerships like that.
The role of zoos in conservation work is absolutely vital.
“If you care about endangered species, don’t support zoos. Check out awesome organizations that are actually making a difference, like the World Wildlife Fund and the Sea Shepard Conservationist Society.”
Ah yes, the WWF, an awesome organization with a CEO richer than any zoo worker, and at one time with a higher salary than the US president,[13] that spends 11% (may not sound like a lot, but for such a huge organization it stacks up to 37.0 million USD) of its budget on fundraising (read: ads) and more than 101 million USD on public education, much of which also just consists of advertisements,[14] [15] it only really cares about charismatic mega-fauna, and has never owned up to its multiple human rights violations[16] [17] [18] [19] [20] and its blatant racism[21] [22] (it also supports and encourages trophy hunting, which I personally don’t have a problem with, but I assume goes against your beliefs). They do a lot of great work, don’t get me wrong, but there are… better… organizations out there.
And Sea Shepherds, whose only tactics are direct action (illegal, ineffective,[23] frequently dangerous to other people[24]) and ad campaigns. You know it’s bad when even Greenpeace opposes your tactics [24]. Instead of helping put alternatives to fishing and whaling in place, Sea Shepherds just violently protest. Sometimes they pick up trash on the shore, but that’s about all the good they do.
“I’ve worked at a veterinarian’s office as a tech for the past few years, and I have never once seen a naturally carnivorous or omnivorous animal forced into veganism.”
There’s enough people feeding their carnivorous pets a vegan diet for brands like Benevo, Ami, Yarrah, Compassion Circle, V-dog, Evolution, Veggieanimals, Ketun, Halo, and Soopa to find profit in producing vegan pet food. Recently Jackson Galaxy promoted a vegan dog food on his facebook page,[25] which likely encouraged a lot of pet owners to go buy that. You might not have seen it in real life, but it happens and it’s a problem.
“But the fact is that condemning [PETA] for humanely euthanizing healthy, adoptable animals is short-sighted and hypocritical.”
What’s the moral difference between killing an excess dog and killing a cow? I assure you, the animal doesn’t care about the reason why it’s killed. You have to either accept that killing a healthy animal is fine because the animal’s own choice doesn’t matter, or you have to accept that you’re putting your philosophy before the well-being of the individual animals. Take a second to think about how you can support animal rights even though you care more about your moral convictions than the animals’ desires. If you believe that killing is cruel and you have a problem with killing cows for that reason, but not dogs, this entire spiel is not about being cruelty free; it’s about following your philosophy to its end, no matter what.
“This problem [of overcrowded shelters] won’t be fixed until people stop breeding animals–if your animal was purchased from a pet store or a breeder, you’re part of the problem. You are the reason so many healthy, adoptable animals have to be euthanized. Adopt, don’t shop.”
Adopt, don’t shop is a catchy slogan, but it’s not really practical in real life. Responsible breeders take great care to spay/neuter any animal that’s not breeding stock and to find homes for the animals they’ve bred. If there’s an animal they can’t find a home for, they’ll keep it. Responsible breeders do not contribute to the overcrowding of pets at shelters. Responsible breeders are not puppy mills.
There are so many reasons to buy from a breeder instead of adopting. Some people want a certain temperament. Some people want a health guarantee. Some people only have room for a small breed or need an allergy-friendly breed. Some people need an animal for a specific job. If these didn’t buy from a breeder, they wouldn’t go out and adopt instead. They would just not get a pet.
Following the idea of ‘adopt, don’t shop’ to its end, we also run into the very conclusion of pets not existing. No dogs or cats or horses or chickens. Nothing. Granted, this is the goal of most animal rights groups,[26] [27] [28] but the thought of completely eradicating dogs is just completely and utterly depressing, and I can’t understand how anyone would want that.
“But more animals are bred and surrendered than there are people willing to adopt them, and there’s not enough money to keep all these animals alive and healthy. So we as the human stewards of these animals have a choice to make: we either humanely euthanize them, or we let them starve to death in overcrowded shelters.”
No one can afford to feed farm animals without selling products from them, which is why farm sanctuaries are always struggling to get by. If it was common practice to sell milk, eggs, wool, and so on from the animals we take care of, there would be no issue with funding their continued care. Oh wait, it is! Farmers are just stewards of animals who fund their care by selling animal products. And since you don’t seem to have a problem euthanizing healthy animals if there’s just the slightest risk we might not be able to feed them - and since the animal doesn’t care why it’s being killed and likely isn’t even aware it’s being killed - is there really a problem putting them down and then using their meat? Unless you do really care more about simply following your philosophy than about ending cruelty.
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This is a wonderful break down, but I would like to also add a point. These animals are not being “killed for no reason”. Some people will say meat is no reason. It’s not. It a valid reason. People need to eat. But not having animal products would get rid of a lot of every day products. I could make a long list but I have found some simple, easy to understand pictures to help keep it short and sweet.
Meat is not the only animal product we utilize and stoping animal productions will get rid of other everyday products. And no matter how hard you try, animal agriculture is not going away, everyone benefits from it.
Bisexuality is defined by being obsessed with Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again and falling in love with the young versions of Donna, Sam, and Bill all at once.
I like my water fluoridated, my milk pasteurized, my vaccines on schedule, my medicine evidence-based, and my food sustainable, even if that means genetically modifying it.