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curious since i've seen quite a bunch of hate towards nick in en/bs fandom, and the amount of reasons might be a galore, and i just want to analyse the audience

why do you hate nick cave or would hate if you don't already

he made bs too himself-centric and had little recognition for other members imo

he was a heroin addict and i have zero consolidation for such

too much nixa content and im not a fan

he acted disrespectful towards women and felt like a creep

not fond of country oldschool rock'n'roll sad bastard tarantino blues aestetics

he became so mainstream it's overwhelming and not nichelike cosy

he had an antisocial urchin facade with sobby flumsy weak clud under it

he ugly

secret other reason/multiple (comment if you want)

haven't seen the wicker man or whatever who is nick cave

Voting ended onMar 17

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lust and cultural shock in west berlin

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i had a vision

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schwindel

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yaoi part two

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i wonder if such a peculiar thing as "calling characters their linguistic name equivalents from local country fandoms" occurs among other non-english speaking natives for example fandom russian speakers tend to use similar slavic names or literal translations in a cute/joking manner to give characters more homebound and familiar vibe as if they speak of someone next door for more precise example rufd of hylics call wayne ivan/vanya and somsnosa is samsa which is a pastry from central asia same goes for band names which is actually a habit/satire on official thing that really happened in soviet russia when they transliterated band names with albums and songs as well on local vinyl issues. now russia is forcing all brands and stores on its market become cyrillic too which is absurdly hilarious and awful but i'm off topic

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so for my fellas nick cave becomes kolya/nickolasha/nickolai peschera and blixa is awfully everything from what sounds similar like klyaksa(paint/ink stain) to something that makes semantical sense like boris nalichniy and i just wonder if, say, japanese or german folks sometimes do that

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Chinese audiences tend to use embellished transliterations to refer to original names. I utterly disagree with the translation of "Blixa" as "碧丽霞". That's why even if I'm not proficient in a foreign language, still insist on using it to express.

Each act of translation only drives the result further away.

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huh, 碧丽霞 does not even seem proficient for what chinese phonetical richness provides. you know better than me, yet i thought you had a more nuanced way of pronouncing his name. tho i've played chinese gachas with their original voiceovers and it seems like a common thing there i know japanese syllables had to be adapted too since some sounds are unusual to the tongue (so it goes like brikusa baagedo or smth) but guess you guys have to stick with latin letters on text at the very least as if it's a trademark not his actual passport name

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commission

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(the reply section mutes me guess i'm texting shitposts now on main) same, i heard the cure as lekarstwo here. sweet to know kowalski literally is based on smith, never noticed that but our verb kowatь is on it. and the idiot-durenь thing too, but i've never heard that for them, gotta make it viral. mostly and still rarely we bully them durex durex. plurals work with i and ы (depends) here on any noun, so yeah, we just pull foreign words on our grammar like an owl on a globe but it suits better. say it the way it is spelled naebatenы and it has a subtle slur in it, sounds to us like fuckarounders (in a decieving way). depeschы too.

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schturtsы.......its rare? imo to russians german pronunciation is not a big challenge, we have similar sounds, borrowed words (mostly technical or "archaically" transformed from eastern commi slang. like wazistdas for kiosk windows or avtoban) and complex constructions that make sense if you separate the bricks logically. i thought it's primarily english speakers issue. come on, einsturzende is not harder than zdravstwuyite (hello). we also can call en ayvazovskiy navalnyi (surnames of a marinist painter and an opposition politic) and won't even loose our shit going "yup that's the actual name of the band, how it goes again, oblepihi hazhratьsya? (to get fed up/drunk with buckthorn) or ainane nepeipivo? (a roma cheer + don't drink beer)"

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ok i found a pic of full (not really) russian variations for en name mangling with an interactive of "your en-name by your own name's first letters" wait for it

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know your neubauten name adapting cyrillic alphabet so use whatever sounds. google some words with no trivia for a surprise. strong language warning. your name: A - einstürzende B - einstierlitzen (stierlitz - a soviet fictional spy) V, W - einstubedne (bednyi - poor) G - gebratene (stir-fried) D - doyobende (doebatьsya - to aggresively annoy) E (IE, YE) - yaynsurzende YO - yobawrotende (yobaniy w rot - mouthfucked) J (ZH) - stasimbelen (stasi - ministry state of security in gdr) Z - shawerminen (shawerma - local doner) I (E) - entschuldigung Y - tsushunebde (tsushun - sign, symbol in tat dialect) K - eibenstberde L - auf wiedersehen M - anzinsten N - esterhazy (hungarian-austrian nut cake) O - ayynane P - aivazovsky R - eisenstein S - ay todor T - eisenach U (OO) - idaho F - eisenhüttenstadt H - tentacliwrot (tentacles in mouth) TS - tsaihungen (from chinese caihong - rainbow) CH - aizkraukle SH - airapetyan SCH - eisenhower É - einsteinium U - eyshishkes (shishki - cones/bumps/lumps or cannabis buds) YA - einthoven your surname: A - nebormann ([not] bormann - hitler's private secretary) B - nayebaten (naebatь - to fuck s/o around) V, W - zuhunder (prison/execution, from army slang) G - nayoben (same as b here) D - neubauten (but pronounced as spelled) E (IE, YE) - dovlaten (arabian-persian male name) YO - bidoden (bidon - can for milk, gasoline) J (ZH) - jacquarde Z - sie bitte I (E) - neuhausen Y - zazhopin (ass grappler) K - podyoben (to mock/prank) L - neubrandeburg M - navalyai-ka (pile up/bang up) N - noahbauten O - münchhausen P - navalniy R - nazhraten (to get drunk/fed up) S - zatrallen (trolled) T - v salate (in salad) U (OO) - neuhaus F - nevkusno (not tasty) H - neymetьsya (itchy, uncomfy, anxious) TS - neumaier CH - ne nado (no need) SH - ne dumai (don't think) SCH - neyavka (absence, no-show, nonappearance) É - nezlobin (not evil/angry in a form of male surname) U - nemodno (not fancy/fashionable) YA - na palke (on a stick)

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(the reply section mutes me guess i'm texting shitposts now on main) same, i heard the cure as lekarstwo here. sweet to know kowalski literally is based on smith, never noticed that but our verb kowatь is on it. and the idiot-durenь thing too, but i've never heard that for them, gotta make it viral. mostly and still rarely we bully them durex durex. plurals work with i and ы (depends) here on any noun, so yeah, we just pull foreign words on our grammar like an owl on a globe but it suits better. say it the way it is spelled naebatenы and it has a subtle slur in it, sounds to us like fuckarounders (in a decieving way). depeschы too.

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schturtsы.......its rare? imo to russians german pronunciation is not a big challenge, we have similar sounds, borrowed words (mostly technical or "archaically" transformed from eastern commi slang. like wazistdas for kiosk windows or avtoban) and complex constructions that make sense if you separate the bricks logically. i thought it's primarily english speakers issue. come on, einsturzende is not harder than zdravstwuyite (hello). we also can call en ayvazovskiy navalnyi (surnames of a marinist painter and an opposition politic) and won't even loose our shit going "yup that's the actual name of the band, how it goes again, oblepihi hazhratьsya? (to get fed up/drunk with buckthorn) or ainane nepeipivo? (a roma cheer + don't drink beer)"

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ok i found a pic of full (not really) russian variations for en name mangling with an interactive of "your en-name by your own name's first letters" wait for it

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(the reply section mutes me guess i'm texting shitposts now on main) same, i heard the cure as lekarstwo here. sweet to know kowalski literally is based on smith, never noticed that but our verb kowatь is on it. and the idiot-durenь thing too, but i've never heard that for them, gotta make it viral. mostly and still rarely we bully them durex durex. plurals work with i and ы (depends) here on any noun, so yeah, we just pull foreign words on our grammar like an owl on a globe but it suits better. say it the way it is spelled naebatenы and it has a subtle slur in it, sounds to us like fuckarounders (in a decieving way). depeschы too.

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schturtsы.......its rare? imo to russians german pronunciation is not a big challenge, we have similar sounds, borrowed words (mostly technical or "archaically" transformed from eastern commi slang. like wazistdas for kiosk windows or avtoban) and complex constructions that make sense if you separate the bricks logically. i thought it's primarily english speakers issue. come on, einsturzende is not harder than zdravstwuyite (hello). we also can call en ayvazovskiy navalnyi (surnames of a marinist painter and an opposition politic) and won't even loose our shit going "yup that's the actual name of the band, how it goes again, oblepihi hazhratьsya? (to get fed up/drunk with buckthorn) or ainane nepeipivo? (a roma cheer + don't drink beer)"

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(the reply section mutes me guess i'm texting shitposts now on main) same, i heard the cure as lekarstwo here. sweet to know kowalski literally is based on smith, never noticed that but our verb kowatь is on it. and the idiot-durenь thing too, but i've never heard that for them, gotta make it viral. mostly and still rarely we bully them durex durex. plurals work with i and ы (depends) here on any noun, so yeah, we just pull foreign words on our grammar like an owl on a globe but it suits better. say it the way it is spelled naebatenы and it has a subtle slur in it, sounds to us like fuckarounders (in a decieving way). depeschы too.

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btw on depeche mode, guys were officially cooked in 1988 in ussr when their tour included moscow bc of this

idk how they managed to turn this into dipi schmot (шмот is a slang for clothes) but the worst thing is gahan who became gay hen.

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alright serves me for not knowing your boysband history /lh makes sense they would not even allow the guys there before ussr fell for "sexual deviancy" and drugs or whatever still this is a widespread meme and we caught that nick for them among others

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(the reply section mutes me guess i'm texting shitposts now on main) same, i heard the cure as lekarstwo here. sweet to know kowalski literally is based on smith, never noticed that but our verb kowatь is on it. and the idiot-durenь thing too, but i've never heard that for them, gotta make it viral. mostly and still rarely we bully them durex durex. plurals work with i and ы (depends) here on any noun, so yeah, we just pull foreign words on our grammar like an owl on a globe but it suits better. say it the way it is spelled naebatenы and it has a subtle slur in it, sounds to us like fuckarounders (in a decieving way). depeschы too.

[otter-kitsch]

btw on depeche mode, guys were officially cooked in 1988 in ussr when their tour included moscow bc of this

idk how they managed to turn this into dipi schmot (шмот is a slang for clothes) but the worst thing is gahan who became gay hen.

[otter-kitsch]

(the reply section mutes me guess i'm texting shitposts now on main) same, i heard the cure as lekarstwo here. sweet to know kowalski literally is based on smith, never noticed that but our verb kowatь is on it. and the idiot-durenь thing too, but i've never heard that for them, gotta make it viral. mostly and still rarely we bully them durex durex. plurals work with i and ы (depends) here on any noun, so yeah, we just pull foreign words on our grammar like an owl on a globe but it suits better. say it the way it is spelled naebatenы and it has a subtle slur in it, sounds to us like fuckarounders (in a decieving way). depeschы too.

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(im not reblogging the topic once again we all know where it comes from) phonetically speaking, yes, some literal translations really do not live for local groups, like, you gotta feel and manipulate your native language to get the vibe and it has to be a lucky contextual strike the doors becomes dveri too here bc it's blatant and absurd, and we would call swans lebedi so it neutralizes the brutality, or copy it on our grammar and say swansi with that diabolical ы in the end that sounds for foreigners like you've been punched in a gut some would make a bit too much of a name in that case, if i try doing so with nurse with wound this would be medsestra s ranoi and it's a meh (tho it's like medsestra sranaya which is a wild crap-implied slur) here goes more for musical rufds: - as i said the doors - dveri but a more common is the "morrison hotel" phenomena bc hotel is "wanted" here and we joke like "what the hell did he wanted" - the cure is kura/kuryatina (chicken) or sometimes it has something with kurit' (to smoke) - somehow we collectively call robert smith bobert and refuse anything else - the smiths is blatantly smitы tho ad-brain surface it could be kuznetsovы (smith based surname) - nine inch nails are just gwozdi (nails) and most would get it in context perfectly, or ninka/nina as a female name - genesis p-orridge is gena/gennadiy kasha - throbbing gristle does not get local name bc it's gonna be yucky to type out loud so it goes gristlы - type o negative will magically becomes tipa negativniy ("sorta negative [dude]" literally) we got lucky here - peter steele is pet'ka stil'niy (stilysh lil' pete) - trent reznor is terentiy reznya (gore/massacre) and it gets funny when locals remember a meme song about an old bdsm fan called terentiy - fm einheit - ok i literally only talk about him with my wife and some pals and we all call him mufti, but we somehow managed to transform this into perviy kanal (first channel) referencing our governmental tv. in a more literal sense he might be called radio edinstvo but it only happens in ultra local linguobrainrot - neubauten also might be called vzorvannie hati (exploded huts) but it requires extra context - all other neubauten members except frank and blixa are called by their buddy/gentle/kiddy versions of names specific to this place: hacke is sanya/sasha/sanyechka/sanyok and etc for alexander and unruh is dryuha/andreyka/dron and whatever we may call other andrews. mark is markusha or chunga-changa referencing a catchy soviet kid song about a faraway coconut and banana island. sometimes we call him jung kook like the bts guy. i guess moser might become mosya (pretty face), or rudiment.

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i wonder if such a peculiar thing as "calling characters their linguistic name equivalents from local country fandoms" occurs among other non-english speaking natives for example fandom russian speakers tend to use similar slavic names or literal translations in a cute/joking manner to give characters more homebound and familiar vibe as if they speak of someone next door for more precise example rufd of hylics call wayne ivan/vanya and somsnosa is samsa which is a pastry from central asia same goes for band names which is actually a habit/satire on official thing that really happened in soviet russia when they transliterated band names with albums and songs as well on local vinyl issues. now russia is forcing all brands and stores on its market become cyrillic too which is absurdly hilarious and awful but i'm off topic

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so for my fellas nick cave becomes kolya/nickolasha/nickolai peschera and blixa is awfully everything from what sounds similar like klyaksa(paint/ink stain) to something that makes semantical sense like boris nalichniy and i just wonder if, say, japanese or german folks sometimes do that

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everybody gangsta untill klaus höhle und die böse samen is in town

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now that's extra whimsy if we remember how in some archives blixa and anita called him nico, might be on his early fondness of tequila and mexican diners or just a coincidence and they were just flirting.