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fe3h x dragon age….
Not lovers or friends but a secret third thing (they play Catan together and Stratt pretends she's not preparing Grace for a one way trip to space)
Silver Snow is not a "church loyalist" route. That's just a fabrication of fandom, like trying to call it Rhea's route when she's barely in it. The church is equally involved in all three non-CF routes and is doing exactly the same thing in all of them. And the route split has nothing to do with the church. It's just about whether you/Byleth thinks Edelgard deserves to die for all the shit she and her allies pulled in White Clouds.
It's kind of funny how casuals and folks outside the fandom probably look at the discourse and think that Three Houses is a game filled with religious zealots. But the truth is there are barely any characters at all that are devoutly religious in a way that maps onto how RL religion actually works. For the Nabateans it's an immediate family drama because their goddess is mommy, Catherine and Cyril are into Rhea more than the church itself, Shamir is a knight but is vocally a nonbeliever and no one cares, and all the rest like Mercedes, Marianne, Yuri, and Manuela are scattered throughout the cast and usually have lines about how stuff they believe isn't orthodox anyway. This is not how you write a convincing fundamentalist belief system.
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"Church loyalists.*
Not a single route is about loyalty to the church, it's about opposing edelgard's war of imperial conquest.
And I'm sorry if I'm assigning bad intent where there is none, but are they trying to make siding with the church out to be a bad thing? what exactly would be so bad about being specifically pro church when 90% of the bad things they're accused of come from the quintessential bullshitter edelgard von hresvelg?
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*The original intent was to take edelgard away from the player.*
"That's exactly why taking edelgard away was bad idea and should've always let us stay with her."
Lol. Lmao.
People don't really listen, do they?
It's funny how people lambast the game to hell and back for player pandering when one route exists because people demanded to be catered to.
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SS is edelgard's route.
It's the route that follows the vision of one of the creators. You just don't like it and therefore reject the idea the creator presented: A game in which your lord betrays and abandons you, playing the role of the villian except she's female this time, a deliberate choice because every single major villian in this series has been a man, and that route is the foundation of the game. That'sexactly what happens in Silver Snow, edelgard was never supposed to stay past the reveal, you weren't supposed to joint her down her path of imperial tyranny. You're compounding your misgivings against SS as reasons it shouldn't have existed, when I'm saying the route may have not had those flaws had they sticked to the original vision and focused instead in polishing Silver Snow (alongside VW) and finishing up Azure Moon. And unfortunately, cf existence validates the idea of Silver Snow being redundant because it gives players an out.
Maybe even after more resources Silver Snow would've still ended up being the least popular route, even if it's much much better than what we ended up getting (and even then, SS may actually have ended up worse than before, everything is possible) but we'll never know. But I guess that's just as well, because we'll never know what it'd be like without SS around.
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The route popularity is completely reactionary, that's like the opposite of a reason why they shouldn't have worked in SS because it's not like they watched into the future to see the reaction SS was going to get for it's flaws and thus... decided to make SS as flawed as they did?
What?
And maybe they could've worked out the kins if they didn't waste time in cf and give its resources to Silver Snow, which may have made it more popular. Maybe flesh out Byleth more? And even if Silver Snow remained the least popular route for any reason, the other two would've still benefited.
People are still presenting opinions as facts.
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While I am fully on board with the "Everyone needs to interact with media other than stuff made for kids" but ngl some of y'all just see anything remotely colourful or joyful and assume it's for children
The reason nobody took your dehumanization post seriously is because you confused portrayal for endorsement.
There's a reason why the latter part/action message of the post was about the community not critically thinking about this rhetoric. In fact, I didn't even say anything akin to "these writers support genocide" as you're implying. The point of the post was to point out how similar rhetoric used against minorities in the game is also used against the Nabateans, but no one in the fandom cared nearly as much, and that was a harmful thing. Maybe observe your own failings in interpreting my writing before accusing me of intents I didn't have.
But to humor your little accusation, let's pretend I was hammering IS and KT for their depiction of discrimination, oppression and genocide in their game. I would have ample reason to do so.
What does it mean when the portrayal suffers because the writing was made to accomodate falling in love with the one clamoring for said genocide. To the point where active fans of said character deny that the genocide was bad, or that it even happened.
At best it shows the writing was bad as it didn't succeed in a way that would be conducive to being an audience to good storytelling, and at worst it shows that the depicted genocide doesn't actually matter beyond shock value, especially when the writers would rather focus on making the player fall in love with Edelgard while also inserting their misogynistic writing in doing so.
There's explanations and justifications within the stories themselves, and then there's the very same things we can presume about the writers given their comments. Opinions that seem contradictory can be held when you make clear the separation of in-universe and real life circumstances that serve as the basic foundation of an argument.
There's also how much more tone deaf fe16 is, compared how other Fire Emblem titles handled conflicts and dehumanisation regarding its dragon and non-human cast.
Fodlan is literally the most recent setting that not only doesn't really touch any theme regarding coexistence or understanding its dragon race, but additionally has its most marketed and supported noble be unchallenged in painting them all in a singular, horrible stroke and can successively cast out all presence, influence and heritage of theirs in their ideal world.
offers nothing to Dimitri fans, Claude and Edelgard fans
This is exactly why Silver Snow has shooters, fuck them lords
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“so this week my town made the news for—” nope
“there’s a restaurant two miles from my house called—” nope
“today I learned [celeb] went to my high school—” nope nope nope nope nope
these are all real posts I’ve seen on the internet that allowed me to identify a user’s hometown instantly. if it’s a small town, that’s doubly dangerous, because a bad actor could trace you just by a unique first name or selfie you once posted. in an age where doxxing and stalking are some of the worst I’ve ever seen it, you HAVE to think twice about what you’re posting online.
i once saw a 13-year old post an image they noted as being “a few miles from their house.” it had a theater in the shot with a unique enough name to be local. one google maps search, now everyone knew not only what city they lived in, but the possible neighborhoods in that radius too. and they had a HUGE following…who all knew this was a 13-year-old child.
so yeah. not to sound like a 90s internet safety PSA…but I’m gonna be that PSA for a minute.
if you’re posting an image, there is NO need to say that you live there. you could just be traveling. “saw this in Montana” is better than “saw this by my house!”
before you post about a venue, especially a restaurant or small store, check and see if it’s local—CRUCIALLY if it has only one or two locations. people might travel to arenas or convention centers, but they’re far less likely to be traveling to Bartleby’s Fish and Chips. if it’s an anecdote and you still live nearby, you can honestly just leave the name out entirely.
if you’re sharing a news story, it can just be a story you found and wanted to share. you don’t have to clarify “it happened in my town,” because even if you don’t mention your town name, an easily-googled news article will.
if you’re seeing a concert or meeting a celebrity on a tour that’s stopped locally, wait until they’ve hit a few more venues before you post about it, or at the very least wait until you get home. this is honestly a smart move for any event you attend: unless you’re marketing yourself, there’s no need to advertise your location in real time.
check your selfie backgrounds for anything identifying. this includes city names on venues, school names, street signs, and house numbers.
this stuff is flexible if you no longer live in your hometown, or if your city is particularly big, but there’s STILL no reason to tie yourself to your school, your workplace, or your street. you can call it paranoid, but as someone who’s seen my friends get literal death threats over fictional characters before, the last thing I want is someone willing to act on those threats finding out where they live.
anyway. PSA over. does a kickflip or whatever
The resources on WV and cf would've been better allocated to Silver Snow by the same logic. People clearly have a bias for their favorite route to the point they present their opinions as facts.
Silver Snow is the foundation of the game, on principle it deserved to be the most fleshed out, people had such an attachment to edelgard they wanted an extra, separate route of us joining her, going against one of the main developers' main vision and extracting resources from all the other routes, something of which people are accusing Silver Snow of doing when that's the opposite of the truth. cf existing is a point against itself in a way VW and the actual best route Azure Moon (which also had cut content, surprise surprise) existing is not.
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On your post about Dimitri and that one 9thwither post about having a hard time caring about how other characters are treated because of Rhea's mistreatment by the fandom:
To me, it seems obvious that both characters get treated poorly for having mental health issues and not wanting to make others suffer for 'a noble cause'/'inherent responsibility'. That is, both of them can have ugly behaviors and neither wants to commit eugenics or kill people based on the sins of their ancestors...for similar reasons, even. Dimitri and Rhea both had their loved ones get got because of the malice of others.
It's not that Dimitri and Rhea don't want change. Dimitri is just very aware that he can't rock the boat too hard all at once, and Rhea believes she'd screw up being a guide compared to her literal creator Goddess and mother.
And to me, they both get similar bigotry from the wider fandom. Ableism and even shared misogyny, though lesser in Dimitri's case, as he's a man...with feminine traits that get lambasted. There was a third thing, but I'm forgetting it. Anyways, they are by no means the same character, but they're way too similar to ignore. So I end up feeling protective of both of them, as a disabled woman myself.
Three Houses fandom, and much of the FE fandom at large, are just abhorrent to deal with for their prejudices, and it results in these lackluster, context-deprived takes, like, "Dimitri is for the status quo," or, "Rhea is a colonizer who didn't get her hands dirty to prevent 'The Crest System'." Three Houses already has massive flaws, but it's so tiring to discuss the game when the fandoms are like THAT.
This is Dimitri & Rhea anon. I mentioned 9thwither's post as an example of something that got me thinking. Just want to clear the air. I've got no issue with 9thwither, as I meant just that the post made me think of how weird it is when Dimitri fans shit on Rhea. If you think removing 9thwither's name from my ask would be more appropriate, then by all means. I'm not trying to start shit. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.
By and large, people in fandom do have a very unchecked/internalized ableism problem. One that manifests when things get too "uncomfy" for them.
Because I know from experience that these same people will claim not to be ableist because "Edelgard is traumatized too!! She suffers too!!!" and not see that that's the exact issue here! Her trauma and subsequent actions as it relates to said trauma are palatable and consumable. Never once straying from a place where the audience could still like her or find sympathy. Even after she turns into a literal monster, she still gets a hope spot for this very reason!
And were these people, y'know, smart, they'd realize that a huge part of why she's like that is because of the writers' misogyny, but that's another thing.
Regardless, like you said, they don't care to admit that their disdain for Rhea and Dimitri's outbursts and issues are also due to trauma because then they'd have to grapple with the fact that this shit debilitates people, makes them irrational and could hurt themselves and others. And that's exactly what happens! Dimitri's actions due to his trauma gets people hurt, even killed! Rhea's trauma buttons being pressed by being attacked, once again, by a person wielding her mom's corpse against her results in her not caring for what lives are lost as she orders the fire!
And none of these actions are seen as justified, because yeah! They aren't!
However, the glaring double standard is how Edelgard can start a war due to wanting people to avoid the Crest Trauma she went through and get endless sympathy from the community, and even OOC sympathy from characters within 3H that makes no sense.
I'm good with the mention, anon! 🙏🏿
Adding to this, a lot of it does feed into how much the fandom largely accepts specific mental health, one that can be salvageable, safe or "cute," etc. Comfortable mental illness.
There's a reason why Marianne is a fandom darling, her depression isn't as destructive or hostile, it's easy, stomachable self-deprecation that doesn't come at the expense of anyone or anything. She still acts competent despite her very low sense of self.
Jeritza also gets his flowers, mostly because his Crimson Flower supports play more into romanticising him. Even when they touch on his Death Knight being a risk, he doesn't do or say anything overtly harsh like Dimitri, or Rhea, even in the supports where Death Knight openly craves his usual shit with his Mercedes & Catherine supports. Hell, to add to the previous part, him chasing death with Byleth is highly romanticised in the fandom, especially in the Beagles fandom, even the S-Support where he pretty much wants Byleth and himself to kill each other.
I'll keep Edelgard's as minor as possible, she has the perfect idealised trauma response, being motivated and immovable despite her pain. Even when she does commit actions or loses herself like others, what's specifically unique to her alone is the narrative going out its way to soften her image, even in Azure Moon, where she's sunken as low as Rhea in Crimson Flower, yet only one is treated as sympathetic as possible. Don't need to explain who, of course.
Meanwhile, with Rhea & Dimitri, they get none of that craze. Not only are they harsh and aren't played as sympathetically once they're wildin', they're outright killed at their mentally worst, Rhea specifically having the most brutal death in both games and is played like a triumphant moment by both the route & the fandom. Additionally, Edelgard also goes out of their way to paint them in more unfavourable lights that her fanbase to take even further lights, "King of Delusion" becomes this misogynistic status quo lover who doesn't just want to murder Edelgard, but women in general. Rhea, who Edelgard basks about how she never cared about humanity, has been Edelstandom's pro-eugenics./ fuedalism (or whatever term they throw in there), god complex, short-fused oppressor who looks down on humanity and is violently resistant to change.
More specifically, their trauma responses being more wrathful and visually more uncomfortable and destructive makes it easier for not just Edelstans, but the general fandom to paint it as their default personalities (again, Rhea gets it even worse, even people who supposedly like think or claim she's "better" or "mask off" when her trauma overcomes her). Suddenly, characters like Felix, who dehumanises him as a "boar" as this "blunt, but correct atheist" who calls out Dimitri's "true nature," And Rhea is 'revealed' as this unstable beast who will kill anyone who questions her (I shit you not, there have been fics where Rhea turns against, attacks, threatens or kills Flayn or Seteth, or the latter two do the same)
A third time to mention Rhea, people generally link her trauma as a way to bring how she "couldn't let go" almost always downplaying or ignoring that she witnessed mass genocide and experienced her own kin being used as physical superpower fuel and weapons, SHE HAD TO FIGHT HER PEOPLE AS CONTORTED CORPSES. It becomes more insulting when they use that type of argument or 'analysis' to contrast her with characters who literally never had to go through that level of (again) GENOCIDAL horror.
Dare I say, that's a lot of people continue to wish or brush past with Rhea, she IS the one who has suffered the most. Again, again! Fighting her people's contorted corpses, Edelgard losing her siblings is nothing compared to that, sorry not sorry, for saying that. Its really clownish to compare the two or act like Edelgard is better with how she went through her trauma when she didn't go through the torror that young Seiros did. Then again, you can say that about every other character that's not Dedue, the second genocide survivor who is actively dehumanised for being Duscan.
I lowkey do think certain Dimitri fans and haters also share a own problem in judging him strictly by his mental illness, treating him during it as "hot" or once more, "evil." This is the standout thing that Dimitri has over Rhea, simply because I've seen it more, and partially because the former who romanticise it, are at times demonising Rhea as if she's somehow worse than him.
Like, the amount of times I've seen Dimileths or hardcore Dimistans bash Rhea (commonly in fics, ofc) for using Byleth and other characters / things, forgetting Dimitri ALSO does that in Azure Moon during his vengeful path until Fleche kills Rodrigue!
I could go further, but the message is crystal clear, this fandom operates on villainising 'ugly' mental illness, its why Rhea, despite her wrath specifically being influenced and linked to the genocide she suffered, is commonly treated as a short-temepred mad woman evil lizard who kills anyone for not being religious, and why Dimitri is reduced to a women hating sadist that will beat his own allies out of impulse or with intent, additionally the only character who's Byleth ship is described as "therapy" despite literally every Byleth support chain having them be everybody's fucking therapist.
TDLR; this fandom has been ridden with ableism, Rhea & Dimitri are proof of that.
(I promise to mod that me quoting another anon is purely to make my point stronger. If that's not enough, I understand and will try to get my point across without quoting)
"Black Eagles player want to have Edelgard as their Lord,"
See, that's the thing. This is something the developer himself mentioned when he talked about his intentions with the game, he knew it would be cruel to the player (a flowery way of saying they'd be pissed off) about the fact that something was being taken away from them, weather something as basic as a strong unit or something like your favorite character (or both) which ties in with the core premise of the lord of your game betraying you (side note, but is Byleth supposed to be the second retainer? Every FE Has a lord and two retainers. Is Byleth supposed to be the second one your lord is missing? Could one say this applies to SS with Byleth and Seteth being Rhea's retainers?) He wanted to do something that would legitimately upset the player, which would've been ballsy in this era of total player pandering, maybe the pandering would've even helped highly how you are being blindsided and the game is, for the first time, telling you no. The players being upset they can't play with their lord is by design.
Or... it would've been by design if the total walkback that is cf didn't exist. They couldn't even stomach a harder method to unlock the route. Unfortunately cf exists, to the detriment of the BE and the game as a whole.
The only reason edelgard fans would've been upset about cf not existing is precisely because they are edelgard fans. They could've done this with Dimitri, they could've done this Claude, and their respective fans would've been upset, too. Except there's another reason they went with the female lord, but that's outside the scope of my point.
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Claude and edelgard fans thinking Silver Snow is the one taking resources away from the other routes is hilarious when that's factually wrong.
The total opposite of reality (WV and (especially) cf being the ones taking resources) 180° away from being true.
This has nothing to do with the quality of any route.
This only goes to show how fans can agree on something and all be wrong. Like that meme of the guy standing in front of a crowd.
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Beetlemon
In Digimon Frontier, chosen children like J P Shibayama can use the itemised spirits of ancient Digimon to Spirit Evolve into Digimon themselves.
Junpei - or "J. P." - uses the Human Spirit of Electricity to become Beetlemon, and the Beast Spirit of Electricity to become MetalKabuterimon. Though we never see it on-screen, by combining the spirits, he can become RhinoKabuterimon.
While we never see it happen in the anime, certain sources suggest that JP could have become KoKabuterimon under certain circumstances.
These powers come from the spirit of the ancient legendary warrior, AncientBeetlemon of the Ten Legendary Warriors.