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kajemac & historians by lucy dacus. have we considered
The baby gays c:
Damn! No sabia que tanta gente le gustara Paper Girls. I love them too! I got inspired and i did an study of Erin, Kj and Tiff on the firepit at the jurasic time. :)
you have to survive a week in the last series you watched, how is it going?
good
bad
great
awful
results
Oh media about adults having to face whether their 12 year old selves would’ve approved of their life, it’s just you and me against the world
I know the show is very different than the comics almost to the point of being its own thing, it doesn’t follow the same storyline and the characterizations/arcs are different, focused on different aspects that make the characters feel different, but I still mourn not having Chris and instead getting Russ. I think it might just be a smaller aspect of a bigger problem I have with the show, and don’t get me wrong, I love the show and wish they had more time to develop and grow, and that may have even fixed some of these issues, but I feel like an important part of the comics was the girls coming to the realization that just because they didn’t succeed in conventional terms of success doesn’t mean they don’t have good lives. The show on the other hand doesn’t seem to have that same message.
Future Tiffany is a dropout, but this time of business school. She doesn’t drop out because she flunked due to finding out she was adopted, she drops out because she didn’t like business school, which Tiffany can understand as even now she doesn’t like business and can’t fathom why she would choose that, which is the basis of her sympathy.
Tiffany met Chris there and they both dropped out and she eloped with Chris, a goth guy. At first Tiffany is confused ‘You’re my- I mean Tiffany’s husband?’ And he picks up on her judging him, to which he responds that Tiffany and him don’t care if people judge them for how they dress. When Tiff starts turning her judgement from him to older her, that is when he starts to have a problem with it, questioning who she is. She’s like ‘I can’t believe my husband wouldn’t recognize me’ (like girl I don’t think it’s even that you just don’t look like tiff anymore, could be that even if you did, most people’s first thought wouldn’t be ‘this twelve year old who looks like my wife twelve years ago before I met her probably is her who time traveled here’), but she shows him photos and he almost immediately believes her and his first thought is that he has to go out and save his wife. Then the other kids show up and he still has that protective mentality, now it’s ‘I have to protect the children’. (I could go into a whole other post about how the comics subvert the expectations we have based on the archetypes and stereotypes we have about characters in this comic.)
We cut to older Tiffany and the first thing they show us is even though she dropped out and looks unconventional, that doesn’t mean she is not smart. She and Chris have a seemingly good relationship and even though she doesn’t seem to have a job or be anything like what Tiffany and the other girls thought she would be like, she still is smart and brave, she is still happy and although not being what Tiffany had in mind, she can have a happy relationship with Chris without having to ‘dumb herself down’ and she doesn’t just have the ‘dumb expendable boyfriend to the smart capable girl that just serves to drag her down’. It feels like they are both intelligent and supportive in a way no one else was to them, they feel like partners and equals, which shows Tiffany just because it’s different doesn’t mean it’s bad.
Younger Show Tiffany rejects older her’s attempt at spinning her life as a good thing for her by just shaming her for being a lowlife who isn’t trying. She frames the idea that she wouldn’t strive for conventional success as her being a coward and lazy. She says she will do everything in her power to still try to achieve conventional success against what her future has laid out for her. Show Tiffany is unhappy with how her life turned out and clearly shows a lot of regret, for dropping out, for dating Russ, and it climaxes with her about to get her memory wiped and screaming out how she doesn’t want to go back to her unhappy life, and the solution is that Tiffany makes sure she can think she invented time travel.
It’s not just Tiffany either. The whole comic is about this topic, acceptance of where you are in life, about how when you were younger you had this idea of who you would be, and how you won’t always turn out that way, but that doesn’t mean your life is bad. Just because you don’t turn out how you hoped when you were twelve doesn’t mean your life is worth less as it is. You can still live a happy and fulfilling life without complying to expectations put on you as a child. And you can still be successful even if your twelve year old self might not have viewed it as success should they look at it today.
In the comics, Erin is judgy of her adult self for being unmarried, taking Xanax, working at the same newspaper she delivers for at 12 (and not getting paid much more), and not getting out of Stony Stream, but she learns that doesn’t make her life bad. She still is close to Missy and her adult self isn’t ashamed of the life they have, albeit having the same self-deprecating humor and slightly cynical view of the world that most people in 2016 had. She and Missy work together to get the girls into the folding and she survives to continue this life that is not bad even if it wasn’t what young Erin assumed her life would be like. It doesn’t feel like Erin settled, but rather just has a simple yet happy life, a different but not worse success. The only thing she regrets is that she didn’t make more of an effort to have friends as a child, something she hopes Erin can do, not for the sake of changing the future. She just wants Erin to grow close to the girls she is with because she sees that as good for her and something she would’ve enjoyed, but didn’t do when she was younger due to fear. She wants Erin to know it’s okay to be afraid, but that she should try anyway, and that is the only thing she would’ve changed if she had to do it over. She doesn’t view her life as bad and so Erin starts to realize it isn’t either, not being ashamed of it even if it’s not what she originally hoped for.
In comparison, in the show adult Erin’s life was seen as a bad thing, and the only thing that absolved her was dying for the girls, but that still didn’t change how her life was seen as sucking because she didn’t achieve these same successes young Erin hoped for. And it was something that followed Erin through the rest of her time on the show, how her future sucked, with the only thing the girls can comfort her with being ‘but you die saving us so future you is not all that bad’
I know the show is very different than the comics almost to the point of being its own thing, it doesn’t follow the same storyline and the characterizations/arcs are different, focused on different aspects that make the characters feel different, but I still mourn not having Chris and instead getting Russ. I think it might just be a smaller aspect of a bigger problem I have with the show, and don’t get me wrong, I love the show and wish they had more time to develop and grow, and that may have even fixed some of these issues, but I feel like an important part of the comics was the girls coming to the realization that just because they didn’t succeed in conventional terms of success doesn’t mean they don’t have good lives. The show on the other hand doesn’t seem to have that same message.
Future Tiffany is a dropout, but this time of business school. She doesn’t drop out because she flunked due to finding out she was adopted, she drops out because she didn’t like business school, which Tiffany can understand as even now she doesn’t like business and can’t fathom why she would choose that, which is the basis of her sympathy.
Tiffany met Chris there and they both dropped out and she eloped with Chris, a goth guy. At first Tiffany is confused ‘You’re my- I mean Tiffany’s husband?’ And he picks up on her judging him, to which he responds that Tiffany and him don’t care if people judge them for how they dress. When Tiff starts turning her judgement from him to older her, that is when he starts to have a problem with it, questioning who she is. She’s like ‘I can’t believe my husband wouldn’t recognize me’ (like girl I don’t think it’s even that you just don’t look like tiff anymore, could be that even if you did, most people’s first thought wouldn’t be ‘this twelve year old who looks like my wife twelve years ago before I met her probably is her who time traveled here’), but she shows him photos and he almost immediately believes her and his first thought is that he has to go out and save his wife. Then the other kids show up and he still has that protective mentality, now it’s ‘I have to protect the children’. (I could go into a whole other post about how the comics subvert the expectations we have based on the archetypes and stereotypes we have about characters in this comic.)
We cut to older Tiffany and the first thing they show us is even though she dropped out and looks unconventional, that doesn’t mean she is not smart. She and Chris have a seemingly good relationship and even though she doesn’t seem to have a job or be anything like what Tiffany and the other girls thought she would be like, she still is smart and brave, she is still happy and although not being what Tiffany had in mind, she can have a happy relationship with Chris without having to ‘dumb herself down’ and she doesn’t just have the ‘dumb expendable boyfriend to the smart capable girl that just serves to drag her down’. It feels like they are both intelligent and supportive in a way no one else was to them, they feel like partners and equals, which shows Tiffany just because it’s different doesn’t mean it’s bad.
Younger Show Tiffany rejects older her’s attempt at spinning her life as a good thing for her by just shaming her for being a lowlife who isn’t trying. She frames the idea that she wouldn’t strive for conventional success as her being a coward and lazy. She says she will do everything in her power to still try to achieve conventional success against what her future has laid out for her. Show Tiffany is unhappy with how her life turned out and clearly shows a lot of regret, for dropping out, for dating Russ, and it climaxes with her about to get her memory wiped and screaming out how she doesn’t want to go back to her unhappy life, and the solution is that Tiffany makes sure she can think she invented time travel.
was inspired by the spirit of stupidity to create this
i feel like i have a talent for finding fandoms a year or more after their peak? with my last two (tlou, yellowjackets) it happened to align with a new season coming out but NOT HERE 😔
anyway i stayed up all night finishing the comic last night and i havent finished the show yet.. but i love them all sm
i miss her
And this is why Paper Girls is SO GOOD
KJ BRANDMAN Paper Girls ♦︎ 1x01 "Growing Pains"
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I'm watching Paper Girls (RIP you deserved more than one season, screw Amazon for canceling you early ðŸ˜) and is Jason Mantzoukas just on speed dial anytime a show about a ragtag bunch of teenagers fighting great forces beyond their understanding needs a guy to play Some Jerk Who Couldn't Care Less About Them Dumb Kidsâ„¢ lmao
does anyone else miss paper girls..? I feel the fandom rose up from the grave for a bit when fear street: prom queen came out but died again
Nostalgia is death, death is forever, forever is now.