DR. POET

Hi!! Just an account to post things i like

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if you have no plans to continue ‘you stop when you hear an infant’s cry’, do you think it would be okay for others to take the idea? I really like the story idea.

You can still adopt the idea even if it's continued dw! Readers like it when there are two cakes

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I LOVE your cookie run stuff

What would hollyberry and golden cheese think of pure vanilla sending gb off to their kingdom to find them?

I'm planning to make a few more cookie run comics, hell, I'm even writing a rewrite for fun! But also I think that Hollyberry would get uncomfortable, while Golden Cheese just starts having violent flashbacks about her people dying, because why are you sending your 12 years-old friend to send these letters???

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Aw shucks, what a shame.. I hope you will write Sides and Shockwave's arc one day as standalone tho!

FUCK I NEED TO GET TO THAT PART *SOUNDS OF METAL CLANKERING AND STUFF FALLING*

[phospoet]

Is LWRB on hiatus?

Unfortunately yes, I might completely abandon the fic since it was just made for fun. But for art content? they're just on an indefinite Hiatus

[dono-cho]

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Brainrotting about Cookie Run, Pokemon: Masters EX oc x Canon, and Cookie Run oc x Canon specifically is like hell

[cyclic-abelian]

The anime is wonderful.. I am so inspired! i needed to finish this right away!!

[myriadsofmayhem]

SCROLL BACK THIS IS NOT A CLIP FROM THE ANIME!!! THIS IS FANART!!!!

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tged textposts (llojavi edition)

pt 1 ┃pt 2

[glissando365]

The Greatest Estate Developer: Novel vs. Webcomic

Keeping notes of the differences as I do my first read through of the web novel. I really loved the webcomic, and it’s always interesting to see the changes between adaptations and look at the possible reasonings behind them, especially when the original creator works on both. Not meant to be comprehensive, really just for my own analysis/amusement.

(ep.1 - episodes or ep# refer to the webcomic. chapters or ch# refer to the webnovel.)

Ondol Business Arc

Ch.1 - There's no mention of "the wish" that brought Suho into this world. This had significance way later in the webcomic, so based on what other novel readers have said, I bet that plotline is different, if it even exists in the novel. Oh also Novel Lloyd first wakes up in bed instead of passed out on the road.

Ch.2 - Suho used to work a lot of odd jobs, including food service. The webtoon focused just on his construction work, but the customer service life feeds his empathy for people like the bar owner.

There is no Frontera branding for the Ondol. Kinda funny that they added it in the webtoon (ep.2) and then had to cut the relevant storyline anyways (ep.211).

Ch. 7 - Suho was an avid gamer (which, hilariously enough, is why he's such a great ragebaiter). When he was in middle school, he used all his allowance at gaming cafes instead of going to cram school, and of course that seriously pissed off his mom. Similar to how Suho apologized to his mom then by giving up gaming, Lloyd gives up drinking to prove to the Baron he’s serious about the Ondol business. Lloyd is explicitly an alcoholic in the novel so this is a Big Deal. We don’t get a Webtoon flashback about Suho’s mom until way late in mermaid arc so I really appreciate the book having more insight into his past life before it was miserable.

Ch.6 - Lloyd is actually quite level-headed about receiving hamster-sized Ppdong for his first summon and does not call our baby “a dud.” Actually, compared to Novel Lloyd's niceness, giant Ppdong should have sat on Webtoon Lloyd.

(ep.4)

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Neumann Duel Arc

Ch.7-17 - There are five Frontera knights instead of three. Rather than go after the head knight directly, Lloyd first beats the shit out of one of the disloyal mid-rank knights to incite the duel with Sir Neumann. That duel ends up exiling all three lousy knights of the estate, leaving just Bayern and Javier.

Ch.18 - We learn that Neumann didn’t die by hamster, but he will live the rest of his life as a skin bag of crushed bones. Lmao.

Ch.18 - Javier formally introduces himself to Ppdong!! And it's so freaking cute!!! THERE'S EVEN AN ILLUSTRATION!!!! (see below) And what's wild is that it's a really important scene 'cuz post-duel, Lloyd is all worried that Javier is going to confront him about his identity (like he does directly in the webcomic) but Novel Javier acts totally chill with this magic summon. This is because Novel Javier is also hiding his true skill level as a near-sword master, as to not draw undue attention to the barony, and even though Javier knows something is up with Lloyd, he keeps quiet as they have a shared understanding for keeping secrets. I've noticed webcomic adaptations tend to go for the more confrontation-heavy option in narratives, possibly due to lack of space, but also because drama looks better visually. I think the webtoon handled the confrontation amusingly, but this is the first moment where I really feel the divergence between the novel and adaptation regarding Lloyd/Javier's relationship.

(Ch.18)

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There’s no Tordes subplot?? He’s name dropped as the scammer, but a fruitless Ctrl+F of the novel suggests they don’t hunt him down and enslave him like in the comic… So I wonder if they made Tordes more significant in the webcomic just because they wanted to make use of a loose plot thread or because they wanted the King of Hell foreshadowing to crop up sooner 🤔

(ep.18)

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The Mine and The Giant Ants Arc

Ch.18-20 - The building of the Frontera road is a whole 3-chapter arc but it got reduced to three webtoon panels lol

Ch.23 - Ppdong has a whole sidestory during the mine-building arc that involves helping the Baroness get rid of the mice eating up her garden. That storyline leads into him being there to save Lloyd and Javier during the ant fight mine collapse. I like that better than Webtoon Ppdong being worked to exhaustion.

Ch.25 - Lloyd and Javier exchange banter while fighting in the ant tunnels. Like a lot of banter. Like Javier, who has maintained a fake politeness with Lloyd until this point, disses Lloyd for having no bitches. That kind of banter. But it's also strangely cathartic as this is the first moment both characters genuinely think they will end up dead, so they got to be honest to each other for the first time. The loss of that moment and also the hilarious lines are kind of a tragedy, but at least Webtoon Javier still got to slap his Lloyd (Novel Javier does too but that was only to help with the lack of oxygen! (mostly)).

(ep.10 with dialogue from ch.25)

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Orc Tribe and Seokbinggo Construction Arc

(ch.30 and ep.13 - according to the adaptation lead, Lee Hyunmin, that panel there is where the webtoon really starts to diverge from the original)

Ch.30 - Orcs got totally yassified in the webcomic!! They have pig-like heads in the book which explains why they "oink" in their dialogue.

Ch.31 - The orc tribe initially wants Lloyd to do squats with them using their 1-ton teasures, and they start getting iffy on him when he asks for a less bone-crushing weight. To appease them, Lloyd proposes building them the seokbinggo ice house. Kind of a roundabout way of getting to the meat-spoiling problem that the webcomic streamlines.

Ch.35 - Suho had a special interest in traditional architecture and even spent his vacations visiting old structures with his historical student society.

Ch.35 - Lloyd has to trick the orcs to help him build the ice house for free by pretending he doesn’t know how to lift the granite properly. This part was funny in writing, but the lead-up is that all the Frontera soldiers actually do get injured trying to lift the granite rocks, which tbh seemed misaligned with a safety-conscious Lloyd. Glad the webtoon made it so the orcs forcibly took over before that happened (ep.14).

Ch.33 - Novel Javier’s first attempt at the mana blast does not result in an explosion that rips his shirt off 😔 It’s actually a quick and clean laser-like cut through the rock such that Lloyd doesn’t even register it happened.

The next few days are going to be an uphill battle for him...At best, he’d need a week. Or two weeks, even.... Thwack! “It was a success.” “…”

It's a beautiful example of how the best punchline differs between a text and visual medium.

(ep.14)

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Dark Sorcerer Luppellan Battle

(ch.36 and ep.15)

Ch.37 - Lloyd actually prepares an antidote for himself to counter the sleeping gas in the sorcerer’s trap. I can’t believe Webtoon Lloyd just held his breath and called it good 😭

Ch.37 - Javier thinks Lloyd looks like a mole cricket and commits that insult to memory to use later. I know he does this in the webcomic too, and it's just very important to me that they didn't remove it.

Ch.38 - The leadup of Javier killing Luppellan is totally different between the two media. In the novel, Lloyd orders Javier to do it as an execution that's legally justified by Luppellan being a serial killer. In the webcomic, Lloyd pretends to let Luppellan go, resulting in Javier cutting off the sorcerer's head when the dickhead tries to stab Lloyd in the back. They basically convey the same conclusion in terms of some people needing to be stopped cold with violence, but there's something much more somber about the novel's execution (pun intended).

"And a serial killer must pay for his sin. It's only right," Lloyd announced. "H-hold on!" "Javier, do as the law says," Lloyd spoke and turned around. Lupellan frantically pleaded, asking for mercy. Javier stepped forward as he drew his sword. "I, Knight Javier Asrahan, am here to execute the holy law of the kingdom under the order of Lloyd Frontera, the son of Baron Frontera." Swish. Javier mercilessly flourished his sword.

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Maritz Farmlands Arc

Ch.43 - This chapter is so cute!! Lloyd goes to survey the wetlands and the Baron follows him all dressed up for a hike and even brings a little lunch and Lloyd is like 'wtf man we're not going on a picnic??' but then it turns out the lunch the Baron carried was OG Lloyd's favorite meal as a child (boiled eggs and tomatoes with honey)! It was the Baron's way of wordlessly expressing regret and apology and pride in his son's changes, which is really sweet but also a bit somber as Lloyd isn't, you know, Lloyd anymore. But still. It's got a bit more oomph than Webtoon Baron telling Javier he used to hate his son 😭

Ch.43 - A consistent thing in the book is that villagers crowd around and loudly comment on Lloyd's antics like Shakespearean NPCs. They don't do anything important, but I think they're funny.

Ch.43-44 - Novel Lloyd earns the simulation design skills after solving the wetlands drainage model in 21 hours, as opposed to Webtoon Lloyd being forced to work analog for 21 days LMAO. Novel Lloyd outgeniuses Webtoon Lloyd, confirmed.

(ep.19)

Ch.45 - Ok so Novel Lloyd is a bit bummed about Hamang not growing from sunflower seeds this time, but again, he handles that disappointment a lot better than Webtoon Lloyd. His mentality is that "he had brought this creature into this world" thus "[the] responsibility to take good care of Hamang was on Lloyd." What a good pet summon owner he is 😇

Ch.48 - Javier is still super cute about growing the onions. Just so we're all aware.

Ch.49 - All of the people who sign contracts to resettle in the Maritz Farmlands are tenant farmers, meaning that by luring them to labor in his fields, Lloyd also gave them a chance to escape an economically abusive system and own their own land. True king of the win-win 🫡

Ch.50 - Suho-Lloyd wasn’t really bothered by everyone treating him like human garbage for being an asshole, because he was used to people treating Suho Kim like garbage for being poor. His literal Lloyd thought process is “they may all hate me but least my stomach is full!” Dude has so much poverty trauma…

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Roman Aqueduct and Viscounty Water Contract

Ch.52 - Suho Kim spent a year breathing in asbestos without a mask so his South Korea body was definitely destined for cancer just fyi 😶

Ch.53 - The Baron writes an announcement explaining to his people how Lacona is polluting their drinking water, and his writing is so brilliant and inspiring and overall ingenious that Lloyd thinks that if the Baron were born in our modern world, he would totally be...a webnovel writer. lmao. I enjoy when authors do this.

Ch.53-55 - Like the Roman roads, the the Roman aqueduct is a whole multi-chapter construction arc that was reduced to a couple webtoon panels. Interesting choice since when the webtoon tells it through flashbacks, Lloyd's hamming it up all 'huhuhu I had no choice but to blast limestone into your water mwahaha~' but in the novel we see that that like yeah, he actually had no choice. Not that Novel Lloyd wasn't still pleased it worked out, but the reader impression is different.

Ch.54 - Javier asks Lloyd how he learned to build an aqueduct and Lloyd tells him straight up, “University of Korea” (which BTW is one of the SKY universities AKA the top three most prestigious and academically competitive universities in South Korea, in case there was any doubt that Suho Kim is smart smart). Anyways, Javier does not believe him and his approval points for Lloyd decrease lol. But it works out because RP doesn’t decrease with disapproval, so Lloyd figures he can just keep pissing people off and then re-earning their approval to farm the RP system. Like I said: smart smart.

Ch.55 - So there's this moment where Lloyd is completing the most dangerous part of the aqueduct construction, and he reflects on how low-ranking workers shouldn't have to do the most dangerous work because then they start weighing the value of their paychecks against the value of their own lives and being someone who had lived in that position back in Korea, he knew it was dehumanizing as hell. The webtoon does a good job of telling why Lloyd cares about worker rights, but when reading through Novel Lloyd's inner narration, you can really feel how his past suffering carved out his current way of thinking, and ngl it makes me want to donate to a worker's union.

Ch.59-60 - The events surrounding the water contract are in a really different order between the adaptations, yet they amazingly play out to the same effect. For instance, the Lacona Head Knight in the webtoon tries to kill Lloyd after getting fired due to budget cuts, but in the novel, the Knight attacks during the middle of contract negotiations to try stopping the viscount from signing the contract. Other scenes like where Lloyd tells Javier he relies on him for protection and Javier lets go of his old resentment toward new Lloyd, all happen minutes apart in the novel, but they are spaced days apart in the webtoon. AND IT WORKS. Seriously, this is the kind of shit I love analyzing between these media, because like, how did they do that so well? The original novel scene is quite well-structured, but at some point during the webtoon storyboarding, the adapter must have realized, 'hey, the fact that all this action happens in one room over one hour might effect the reader's perception of pacing since ya know, we're just drawing one room for two episodes' (which is perfect for a written scene but becomes a problem in a visual medium). So they broke up a fight here, moved a flashback there, added a timeskip in-between... and voila! All the story pieces are economically restructured to extend the feel of the content! Sorry to get rambling about the adaptation, but effective pacing was definitely one of the webtoon's most noticeable strengths within its field, so seeing how they altered the existing narrative so effectively between mediums is seriously brilliant.

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End of Comparison Part 1 - Revival of Frontera (Ch.1-60 & Ep.1-24)

Best part of the novel that I wish was in the webcomic: Baron and Lloyd father-son picnic 🥺

(ch.43)

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Best addition to the webcomic that wasn’t in the novel: The Door Slams You performed on Knight Whatshisface from Lacona - one of my Top 10 TV Tropes fr

(ep.22 - Thank you for your sacrifice to comedy, sir 🫡)

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Last thoughts: No one told me the original webnovel is over 4,300 pages long!! I am going to be here for a while.

Up next: Adventures in Cremo

[fistfuloflightning]

trust fall

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THEY WERE FLIRTING IN THE NOVEL. How DID I MISS THIS.

[sargentcat]

Honestly best therapy hes gonna get in a medival fantasy world

[phospoet]

Still remembering that guy who said that the TGED team had a budget to follow and that I need to respect the artist team because the author agreed to the changes.

The respect part? I agree, after all, they are still humans, but, when it reached 70+ chapters;

their budget was more than enough, as proven by the changes that they made from the novel btw. Lloyd's ugly faces weren't so common and only mentioned once in a while, never brought up in times that would make the moment shallow and dull. They removed Lloyd's fear of going back to Korea because he was so lonely and was suffering so much from the after effects of overworking, and he had to keep working just so he could stay alive after his parents died from suicide because they couldn't take care of the debts, leaving him incapable for having friends because he had to work and work and work, and instead made him have a successful future when he returned which defeats the whole point of what his story was trying to convey and also brushing aside the critique for the source of his poverty.

Should I really respect the author and the artist team who never bothered to keep the story's critiques of in real life problems that were very prevalent in the novel?

They removed Javier's gentle affection for Kim Suho, they made him too playful, they made him willing to jokingly put Kim Suho in danger, when in the novel he would never spare any action of hostility towards his Master, even as a joke. Javier bares his fangs, but never would he ever dream of tearing it onto Kim Suho's skin, nor would he ever try to press it against his flesh after he observed Kim Suho in Lloyd's body.

Novel Javier was careful, he was wary, and at the same time, he was the gentlest with Kim Suho. And yet he still needs Kim Suho to anchor him, without each other, they are doomed by the narrative, they depend on each other and Javier knows it.

Javier was codependent with Kim Suho, and it was mutual. Because Kim Suho knew how Javier would act, Kim Suho loved this main character so much, so much that he knows Javier as a person. If they wanted to change and add into the manhwa so much, they could've done it by elaborating and exploring preexisting dynamics. At least they explored Alicia's character, which I was grateful for, but it just looks like the manhwa team is doing what they want, not adapting a story that clearly had a reoccuring theme of how bad the working system is in korea and an unhealthy codependency with a fictional character.

And to add, in the ending of the novel, Javier didn't get a new look, Javier didn't get older. He went straight for the dragon king's neck just to threaten him to bring Kim Suho back, he didn't beg, he broke down the damn door 😭😭😭😭. IT LITERALLY HAD LESS BUDGET TO DRAW FOR, THEY DIDNT HAVE TO ADD A FUTURE DESIGN.

And THAT GUY WHO CRITICIZED ME LITERALLY CAN'T CRITICIZE ME, BECAUSE THEY NEVER DID READ THE NOVEL AND COMPARE IT TO THE MANHWA AND IT'S CLEAR FROM HOW THEY TALKED TO ME. THE FUCKING AUDACITY OH MY FUCKING GODDD.

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I'M STILL SO PISSY ABOUT THIS, NOT BC THEY VERY MUCH INSULTED ME IN THE COMMENTS AND MADE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT ME, BUT BECAUSE THEY CLEARLY NEVER READ THE NOVEL TO PROPERLY ARGUE WITH ME.

"oohh but I didn't care that much to argue properly, and you're probably (assumes MORE wrong things about me and misinterpret my words)"

I know you were raised on tiktok don't lie to me. YOU ASSUME ABOUT ME, I'LL ASSUME ABOUT YOU TOO. LITERACY IS DEAD BECAUSE NOBODY GETS HYPERBOLES AND THE IMPORTANCE OF PASSION TO ADAPT A WORK NO MORE.

[phospoet]

Still remembering that guy who said that the TGED team had a budget to follow and that I need to respect the artist team because the author agreed to the changes.

The respect part? I agree, after all, they are still humans, but, when it reached 70+ chapters;

their budget was more than enough, as proven by the changes that they made from the novel btw. Lloyd's ugly faces weren't so common and only mentioned once in a while, never brought up in times that would make the moment shallow and dull. They removed Lloyd's fear of going back to Korea because he was so lonely and was suffering so much from the after effects of overworking, and he had to keep working just so he could stay alive after his parents died from suicide because they couldn't take care of the debts, leaving him incapable for having friends because he had to work and work and work, and instead made him have a successful future when he returned which defeats the whole point of what his story was trying to convey and also brushing aside the critique for the source of his poverty.

Should I really respect the author and the artist team who never bothered to keep the story's critiques of in real life problems that were very prevalent in the novel?

They removed Javier's gentle affection for Kim Suho, they made him too playful, they made him willing to jokingly put Kim Suho in danger, when in the novel he would never spare any action of hostility towards his Master, even as a joke. Javier bares his fangs, but never would he ever dream of tearing it onto Kim Suho's skin, nor would he ever try to press it against his flesh after he observed Kim Suho in Lloyd's body.

Novel Javier was careful, he was wary, and at the same time, he was the gentlest with Kim Suho. And yet he still needs Kim Suho to anchor him, without each other, they are doomed by the narrative, they depend on each other and Javier knows it.

Javier was codependent with Kim Suho, and it was mutual. Because Kim Suho knew how Javier would act, Kim Suho loved this main character so much, so much that he knows Javier as a person. If they wanted to change and add into the manhwa so much, they could've done it by elaborating and exploring preexisting dynamics. At least they explored Alicia's character, which I was grateful for, but it just looks like the manhwa team is doing what they want, not adapting a story that clearly had a reoccuring theme of how bad the working system is in korea and an unhealthy codependency with a fictional character.

And to add, in the ending of the novel, Javier didn't get a new look, Javier didn't get older. He went straight for the dragon king's neck just to threaten him to bring Kim Suho back, he didn't beg, he broke down the damn door 😭😭😭😭. IT LITERALLY HAD LESS BUDGET TO DRAW FOR, THEY DIDNT HAVE TO ADD A FUTURE DESIGN.

And THAT GUY WHO CRITICIZED ME LITERALLY CAN'T CRITICIZE ME, BECAUSE THEY NEVER DID READ THE NOVEL AND COMPARE IT TO THE MANHWA AND IT'S CLEAR FROM HOW THEY TALKED TO ME. THE FUCKING AUDACITY OH MY FUCKING GODDD.

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whooooopsss guys i dropped my starbee 😞😞😞🤕🤕🤕 starbee doodle dump below looks around

[jitterbot]

i don’t think it’s talked about enough that bee staying with starscream at night was a common enough occurrence that when bee was ignoring starscream, starscream thought bee would be done with the act by the time the night came. and when bee still hadn’t shown up in the last page of the comic starscream was still in bed talking to him like he was there. and we aren’t even going to talk about the suspiciously bee shaped space left right next to him

this panel will go down in history for me

[sabertoothwalrus]

I bet queerbaiting feels so good. it’s a shame I’ve already established myself as a lesbian who writes gay shit because I’m just imagining the high I would get from writing something where my audience has no expectation of anything more queer than the barest of crumbs, like the real top shelf queerbaity stuff, give them no faith that I’d ever follow through but also give them plenty of material to imagine, and then slap them in the face with the queerest faggiest ending they’ve ever seen. Make my straight fans look like absolute clown shoes. I think the rush I’d get from doing this would be so intensely addicting that it would briefly fix everything wrong with me but since this is a stunt you’d only ever be able to pull off once I would immediately go into cardiac arrest and die