I found every time the bike sound effect plays! Other than the original, it only appears in season four (trust me I checked every season). Iâve made two other posts about this before (here and here) and I finally found all of them! Here are my thoughts and theories about this:
I definitely think this sound effect has something to do with Vecna's presence and revisiting past trauma. A majority of the scenes are related to NINA and the others are when characters remember something traumatic. Max has a nightmare about Billy, Nancy is reminded of Barb when Fred goes missing, and Nancy sees Barb's corpse. Theyâre being reminded of trauma. The bike is a symbol for Willâs disappearance (a traumatic event) so I think theyâre using this bike sound effect to hint that Vecna is the one who took Will.
To quote Max, they've been telling us Vecna's plan the whole time. The bike sound is basically Will's clock chimes. Theyâre telling us that Vecna took Will and this is why his bike is in the posters for every season, even when it doesn't quite fit. Will's bike felt out of place in the California poster since Will doesnât really address that trauma this season. Are they putting significance on this bike to lead us to the sound effect? Other characters do remember portions of Willâs disappearance when they enter the Upside Down, though. It all comes back to Will.
Another reason this effect might be playing is because Will needs to experience his own NINA about the week he was in the Upside Down. Why have this sound play surrounding characters revisiting trauma? They need to revisit the traumatic event that started it all. We never found out what it was like for Will in the UD. Is this because it's a sensitive topic for Will? Or does he not remember? He may need to have his memories revived like El did.
I didn't adjust the volume to make it easier to hear because the sound effect seems to get louder as the episodes go on and I think this is important. It gets louder as El gets closer to the truth about Vecna.
It's interesting how the sound plays twice when Nancy is in Vecna's mind lair. The lines above are said just before and just after the sound effect plays. Being different and getting close to the truth. Will's big moment of the season is admitting that he is different so there has to be a connection here. The truth theyâre getting close to is that Vecna took Will. But why did he take him? Is it because Will is different? Maybe Will is different in the same way Henry is... powers?
A few of the scenes have parallels to Will as well. Max and Will both wake up from a nightmare caused by Vecna.
When Nancy notices Fred disappeared, Max's dog starts barking. This dog looks quite similar to Will's dog who also barked when Will disappeared. So there are two instances where a dog barks when someone disappears. This also connects to my theory that Vecna was recreating Willâs disappearance (here).
The sound plays just before we see Mr. Wallace being interrogated by the government people searching for El. He is tied to a chair with bright lights surrounding him just like Will was when they were interrogating him!
The bike plays when El is singled out by Brenner to spin the light. Could this be related to how Vecna singled out Will to kidnap him? Both Will and El spin lights in a circle as well.
There may be more parallels that I missed but the ones I found show a clear connection, it all comes back to Will. The reveal that Vecna took Will is going to play a huge role in how they defeat Vecna because Will is the key. This sound effect is easing us into this reveal.
Explicit đ | Byler Ghost Painting Horror/Romance AU
Nightmares pass into creeping daylight. It threatens to shine a light on every crack in their foundation. It's better to notice before it all falls apart, right?
Get ready to be PAINTED again, Chapter 6 now on Ao3.
Explicit đ | Byler Ghost Painting Horror/Romance AU
Do you know what these flowers symbolize? Well, you see, pink hyacinths are an innocent love, while purple are for forgiveness. White lilies... those are for the dead.
Get ready to be PAINTED again, Chapter 5 now on Ao3.
Explicit đ | Byler Ghost Painting Horror/Romance AU
The painting of Mike has come to life, and will has no choice but flee his apartment, despite his agoraphobia that consumes him. He seeks answers, but isn't so sure if the ones he wants are the ones he will get.
Get ready to be PAINTED again, Chapter 3 now on Ao3.
Explicit đ | Byler Ghost Painting Horror/Romance AU
Will works on the painting of Mike, which is starting to unnerve him in a way this therapy exercise shouldn't. It's supposed to bring catharsis, not dread, and that's all it seems to give when it grabs Will from inside the painting.
Get ready to be PAINTED again, Chapter 2 now on Ao3.
"Last night, the painting... it came to life! He spoke to me and... it was his voice. It was his voice, Jonathan."
NYC, 1999. Will Byers is running low on funds, inspiration, & drive to find the way to fix it all. His therapist suggests painting what he can't let go of. So he paints Him. The one he could never let go of, even though he's been dead for the past 7 years.
It's just you & me. PAINTED. In all the colors we couldn't say and words we couldn't paint. đš OR: Mike died almost 7 years ago and despite Will's successful art career in NYC, he find himself terribly, incredibly alone.
PAINTED | Explicit đ | Byler Ghost Painting Horror/Romance AU
Our Story, Just Different AgainđŠ
[ Chap 3/8 | 13.2k words ] #Byler #fanfic
Mike dreams about the summers he knew Will Byers, before Will's acting career took off. Getting to know him now, after all this time, is more unreal than his wildest dreams.
âIntentionally badâ: conformitygate, TJLC, and genre traitors
Most of my Stranger Things season 5 meta has been about what Iâve nicknamed in my head âconformitygate Xtremeâ (the interpretation that Stranger Things 5.8 is telling us that it isnât the real ending), as opposed to âconformitygate Liteâ (the interpretation that 5.8 is telling us that the villain actually won).
I donât write about the possibility that we all just bought into hollow media hype again, basically because⊠well, thatâs no fun.
But âboring and depressingâ doesnât mean itâs not a valid possibility.
This post started off as a rebuttal of the comparisons being made between TJLC (from the BBC Sherlock fandom in 2017) and conformitygate... but when I actually started drafting it, I realised that all my arguments were coming with a glaringly unspoken caveat that the comparison is a valid one, in many ways.
I want conformitygate (Xtreme) to be true, and I do genuinely think it can be true, but I do not and cannot know that it is true. Nobody on here can. And all of us have a responsibility not to lose sight of that reality in our desire to be right. (Or, worse, to be vindicated.)
I donât consider myself a particularly influential conformitygater, but I do feel a duty of care towards anyone I am influencing.
So Iâve structured this post differently from my original plan:
Part 1: Similarities (a TJLC refresher and gentle reality check)
Part 2: Differences (most of this post)
Part 3: Summary and conclusion
Part 1: Similarities between TJLC and conformitygate
So firstly, what was TJLC?
âThe Johnlock Conspiracyâ (TJLC) was a broader theory within part of the BBC Sherlock fandom, which held that John Watson and Sherlock Holmes were always intended to become a canon couple in the show andâfollowing the trainwreck of the fourth seasonâthat the finale couldnât have been the real ending of such a beloved show, because it didnât make any sense.
Replace Johnlock with Byler, and you pretty much have conformitygate⊠right?
From this point on, Iâm going to use âTJLCâ as shorthand for Sherlock fansâ belief (at the time) in âsecret good incoming contentâ, and âconformitygateâ as shorthand for Stranger Things fansâ (current) belief in the same. I also think itâs important to conformitygate that it originated and proliferates in Byler analysisâthough as with TJLC, conformitygate as a theory goes beyond shipping.
But Iâll get to that later.
There are many fundamental similarities between TJLC and conformitygate, which both:
theorise that a popular showâs ending was so bad, and made so little sense that it cannot be the real endingâthat it was badly written on purpose
involve fan discontent with the treatment of a gay ship of two protagonists that, if there is no additional content, would have been a years-long queerbait
have valid textual and metatextual evidence to support their conclusions
started in niche (shipping) fan spaces, before breaking into mainstream awareness
were encouraged by the showrunnersâ continuous insistence that their show is meaningful, and that audiences should be analysing details presented in the text
Then there are some additional hyperspecific similarities between how TJLC played out and how conformitygate has played out. In this section I draw significantly on the research and analysis done by Sarah Z in their video âTumblr's Greatest Conspiracy: The Story of TJLCâ, which I do encourage you to watch for more detail on all this.
Here are some of the hyperspecific similarities between TJLC and conformitygate:
In response to the disappointment of the finale, both theories involved fans going beyond analysis of the show as a form of study and media criticism, and venturing instead into predictive analysis treated like a sort of divination.
Both involved fans guessing at multiple possible dates for the anticipated new release based on increasingly tenuous (and numerological) speculation, only to have each proposed date pass with nothing to show for it.
Both theorised that a specific upcoming media release from the studio would turn out to be the secret new contentâmost notably BBCâs Apple Tree Yard for Sherlock, and the Netflix documentary for Stranger Things.
Both shows had official tie-in content that existed outside the main body of the show, which actively encouraged speculation. For Sherlock this was the official fake blogs for both John and Sherlock. For Stranger Things, it's the WSQK show.
A website claiming to be related to the release of new content popped up online for both shows. For Sherlock, this was âThe Lost Specialâ websiteâlater revealed to have been an unofficial but intentional fan-bait (and vague experiment in confirmation bias). For Stranger Things, this was november61987.com, which featured a countdown to January 7, 2026 (now simply zeroed out).
Both series suffered finale leaksâStranger Things got a lot of leaked set images that fairly clearly spoiled certain plot points, like Elâs death, while Sherlockâs entire finale episode was leaked online the day before it officially aired.
In terms of the history of TJLC, the Sherlock finale leak sent the fandom into a frenzy over (a) how bad it was and (b) how badly the leak was handled by the showrunners. Fans immediately speculated that it was a fake finale pulled together to trick the fandomâan early spark later fanned into the flames of TJLC. The obvious difference between the two finale leaks was the scale: set photos versus the entire episode.
But thereâs also a difference in timing and actual intent.
Sherlockâs finale was genuinely leaked, and there was only a day between that and the actual airingâmeaning even if it had been intentional, there was no time for the showrunners to capitalise on the leak. But Stranger Thingsâ finale was aired as expected, almost a month ago, now. And it was shown in theatres (though not, apparently, to Netflixâs profit, due to some baiting and switching with concessions vouchers). The proposition that 5.8 was not the real Stranger Things finale has much more significant implications.
And even within the fundamental similarities between the two theories, there are notable divergences. For instance, TJLC was always mocked by general audiences, whereas there was a brief moment when conformitygate didnât just enjoy mainstream awareness, but mainstream buy-in.
Bylers alone didnât crash Netflix on 7 January 2026.
⊠So that leads me nicely into to Part 2: Differences between TJLC and conformitygate.
But first, another reminder: everything I say below, I say it in the context of recognising all the similarities between the two theories, and recognising that for all our âevidenceâ, there is a reasonable chance we will all be disappointed, and that conformitygate will go the same way as TJLC.
We do not know how this will end up.
Please read the rest of this post with that in mind, and only engage with this theory as long as youâre having fun doing itâalways be appropriately critical of what you read online!
Part 2: Differences between TJLC and conformitygate
Iâm starting with the shippy part of both theories, because thatâs a pretty objective and slightly less fundamental distinction between Sherlock/TJLC and Stranger Things/conformitygate.
Then Iâll tackle the questions of genre awareness, overall quality, and the relationship between fandom in the era of TJLC, and fandom in the era of conformitygate.
This part is broken up as so:
The butt of the joke
Queercoding and queerbaiting
The ending was (in)evitable
Contempt for the genre, contempt for the audience
The glaring exception
âThereâs never a secret episode!â
On precedent
2.1: The butt of the joke
From the start of Sherlock, we got constantly repeated jokes and implications about John and Sherlock being or being mistaken for a couple.
It happened.
Constantly.
The very first episode contains a scene where the waiter assumes John and Sherlock are on a date, and also incidentally Sherlock implies that he might be either gay or asexual.
John: âYou donât have a girlfriend, then?â
Sherlock: âGirlfriend? No. Not really my area.â
J: âOh, right. Do you have a boyfriend? Which is fine, by the wayââ
S: âI know itâs fine.â
J: â⊠So youâve got a boyfriend, then?â
S: âNo.â
Johnlock was sometimes referenced at least somewhat seriously, but for the most part it was the butt of the joke.
This became particularly pointedâand started to take on a nastier toneâafter S2 (which, coincidentally, was about when the show blew up on Tumblr).
For most of the show, Sherlock and John just kind of⊠existed around each other. Despite the show being about⊠them⊠and they certainly had a lot of interactions, they had increasingly little impact on each other. Neither character went through any particular arc in general⊠and certainly not as a result of their relationship with each other.
In contrast, Byler has never been portrayed as a joke, and from S1, Mike's relationship with Will was constantly shown to be objectively different from the other charactersâ.
In the few instances where Mike, Will, and their potential romantic connection has come up explicitly, it was treated seriouslyâthink the S3 rain fight, S4 Rink-O-Mania fight and reconciliation, S4 painting and confession, and Willâs S5 empowerment arc. Even in Will's coming out scene in 5.7, his feelings for Mike are downplayed and arguably trivialised, but they aren't mocked.
Byler is woven into the plot in all 5 seasons of the show:
In S1, most of the narrative focus was on Mike and Joyceâs reactions to Willâs disappearance, including Mikeâs early interactions with Eleven. When the fake body is pulled out of the quarry, our attention is first and foremost on Mikeâs responseâthen Joyce and Jonathan, Willâs mother and brother.
By S2, Mike was explicitly aligned with Joyce in terms of his level of investment and involvement in dealing with Willâs possession. He barely left Willâs side.
In S3, Willâs arc is about not wanting to let go of his childhood, which is contrasted with Mikeâs desire to be âgrown upââto the point of active conflict between the two of them. Their arcs intersect and almost mirror each other.
In S4, Mike and Will spend almost the entire season at each otherâs sides and spend a lot of time dealing with their own relationship dramaâwhich, again, intersects with Mikeâs relationship drama with El.
In S5, Mike is the one to suggest to Will that he might have powers, and itâs both Willâs queer self-acceptance and his love for Mike, Joyce, and Jonathan (again) that actually triggers his powers.
Itâs not just that Mike and Will spend a lot of time in close proximity that makes it easy to ship them, like John and Sherlockâitâs that Mike and Willâs relationship, both platonic and romantic, was impacting the show's plot in one way or another in all 5 seasons, in a way Johnlock never did.
(⊠Unless you count John constantly getting kidnapped and needing Sherlock to rescue him.)
Summary:
Whereas Johnlock only ever came up in the show as an in-universe gag (or a dig at the audience), the relationship between Mike and Willâdefinitely platonically, and possibly romanticallyâhas always been played straight (pun essential) and meaningfully embedded into the show's narrative and their respective character arcs.
2.2: Queercoding and queerbaiting
Sherlock gave plenty of evidence for a queer interpretation of Sherlock and, at points, John as well. But overwhelmingly, the evidence was that John was straight, and that he and Sherlock were not romantically or sexually interested in each other.
Despite all the jokes and implicationsâsuch as Sherlockâs ambiguous sexuality, and the fact that Irene Adler was attracted to Sherlock despite being a lesbian [sigh], and basically said outright that this meant Johnâs heterosexuality wasnât necessarily an obstacle to Johnlockâthere was no firm textual basis for either John or Sherlock being gay or attracted to each other.
Maryâs inclusion in the show can easily be interpreted as the showrunners trying to prove Johnâs heterosexuality⊠though your mileage may vary with that one, especially given the fridging.
But what is not remotely open for interpretation was the showrunnersâ outright, often hostile insistence that Johnlock wasnât going to happen from at least 2016 onwards.
âIt is infuriating frankly, to be talking about a serious subject and to have Twitter run around and say, âOh that means Sherlock is gay,ââ said Moffat. âVery explicitly it does not. We are taking a serious subject and trivializing it beyond endurance.â
â[Sherlock] explicitly says he is not interested,â [cowriter Mark] Gatiss said, referring to Sherlock's implied asexuality in the show. âDoesnât mean he couldnât be. Doesnât mean thereâs anything wrong with it. Iâm a gay man. This is not an issue. But weâve explicitly said this is not going to happenâthere is no game planâno matter how much we lie about other things, that this show is going to culminate in Martin [Freeman] and Benedict [Cumberbatch] going off into the sunset together.â
By comparison, in Stranger Things it is explicit canon as of S4 that:
Will is gay
Will has romantic feelings for Mike
It takes two to tango, but having one half of a gay ship being canonically gay and in love with the other half is one hell of a different proposition from whatever was going on with John and Sherlock (and Mary), and their ambiguous queercoding.
Plenty of creators have weighed in on the queercoding of Mike Wheeler, though this remains non-canon. And, obviously, the equivalent character to Mary as a defender of Mikeâs heterosexuality in Stranger Things would be Elevenâ
âbut although El and Mike's platonic, even proto-romantic relationship was shown to be very strong in S1, it was kind of all downhill from there.
Mike and El spent all but about 10 minutes of S2 separated. In S3 they were either kissing, at odds, or broken up for most of the runtime. In S4 they were either lying to each other, at odds, or broken up (?) for most of the runtime. Mikeâs S4 finale love confession was made under duressâEl and Max were literally dying, and their friendsâ lives (if not the fate of the entire world) were at stakeâand it was framed as more of a response to Willâs love confession in the van than to El herself.
Then in S5, Mike and El yet again spent almost the whole season apart, hugged a few times, and didnât kiss until El was about to die.
Their romantic relationship was shown to be rocky from the start and deteriorated from there⊠until by S5 it wasn't clear whether they were even still together, even to people who shipped them, until less than 5 minutes before Elâs (apparent) death.
And finally, though Johnlock was subject to both outright denial and apparent scorn from its showrunners, we have not, to date, had an outright denial of Byler from the showrunners.
No, it is not canon either, but that is a different point.
For example: if itâs now clear that Byler is not, and was never going to be canon, why not say so?
It was an interview with Collider (published 1 January 2026) that spawned the conclusion that the Duffers had "debunked" Byler, but note that⊠they did not actually⊠do that:
Stranger Things creators Matt and Ross Duffer were asked directly how aware the creative team was of the Byler fandomâand whether they ever felt pressure to explicitly shut it down so it wouldnât distract from the showâs larger story. âFor us, thereâs always noise,â Matt Duffer said. âBut when we sit down to write a season, the goal isâI mean, you have to block it out, and you have to tell the story that you are always intending to tell.â
That philosophy, according to Duffer, has been in place since the very beginning of the series. âThis story and the story of Will has been planned and has been building to this moment for eight years now,â he explained. âSo, thatâs all we really wanted to do, was to just be truthful to what we wanted to do and what weâd always been planning to.â
The author of that article, not the Duffers, then âsummarisedâ:
And that gets directly to the heart of it, because while Stranger Things ultimately made Willâs sexuality explicit and central to the final season â and received its fair share of criticism for it from critics â a romance for Will and Mike was never on the cards for the Duffers. They stayed the course, making sure that Mike and Eleven were the actual endgame. By refusing to âcourse-correctâ based on fan pressure, the show avoided reshaping character motivations to satisfy discourse. As Dufferâs comments make clear, the writers viewed the Byler conversation as external ânoise,â not a storytelling mandate.
Ah, âByler was never in the cardsââthe phrase that spawned a thousand ragetweets.
All the Duffers said in that Collider interview was that the Byler fandom did not influence the story they were always intending to tell.
Now, this isnât an argument for or against Byler being a queerbaitâbut itâs worth noting that if Byler is not (and never was intended to be) endgame, then the Stranger Things showrunnersâ silence and ambiguity on the matter, especially in response to direct questions, and especially in the face of stronger textual support, makes Byler a more serious, more outright queerbait than Johnlock was a decade ago. Not optimal.
In the fantastic breakdown video Sherlock Is Garbage, And Here's Why, hbomberguy asks:
âWhy do so many people like [BBC Sherlock]? Or rather, why did so many people think they liked it until season 4 came out and everyone collectively realised it was bad and always had been?
â⊠And why did that happen?â
Despite general consensus that Sherlock started off well and then went downhill after S2, hbomberguyâs thesis is that Sherlock was always bad, and just used trickery and lies to keep stringing its audience along.
âIf thereâs one thing this show was always good at, one thing Moffat as a writer always did, itâs keep you thinking an explanation was comingâthat the show was going to get good. [âŠ]
âThe showâs bread and butter is revealed to have always been implying the show is about to turn out to be deep. Implying characterisation and backstory thatâs way more interesting than what ends up on the screen. After four seasons (and a special) of implying, people started to realise they were being played.
âThe drug of this manipulative writing style started to wear off.â
According to hbomberguy's well-evidenced argument, Sherlock's con staggers along until the fourth season, when it finally becomes clear that there never was any substance to all the flashâ
âand that there never would be.
â[Sherlock season 4 is] really bad. So bad that people who wanted to like the show had to invent a secret good episode that would, if it existed, somehow fix it. Itâs orders of magnitude worse than the rest of the showâand Iâm pretty sure Iâve established thatâs already pretty bad. [âŠ]
âItâs not just that [season 4 is] worse written, the characters are facsimiles of themselves, and the driving thrust of the storyâs utterly fallen apart. Itâs that ultimately it trips on the curtain and tears away all the flaws of the entire show from front to back, revealing it to have always been the worst.â
As a result, he concludes that the people who championed the âsecret good fourth Sherlock episodeâ theory âsimply [took] more seriously than anyone else the promise they were made by the showâ. The promise that it was good⊠or it was going to get goodâŠ
⊠or that anything you saw in the show ever meant anything at all.
So hbomberguyâs argument is that:
Sherlock was always bad, but
the showrunners manipulated the audience to disguise that factâŠ
⊠until it caught up with them in the end.
In other words, the appalling ending of Sherlock was basically inevitable.
Fans who believed in TJLC did so in the mistaken belief that the show they were so invested in was actually worth analysingâwhen in reality, that was not and had never been true.
Sarah Z adds that Sherlock was always cherry-picked by its fansâas many shows areâand therefore what fans felt they were watching was actually a sort of fantasy, reverse-engineered by focusing on the âsame seven or eight scenes out of 15 hours of contentâ and ignoring âscenes and episodes that were of more mediocre qualityâ:
âThe show [âŠ] was worshipped as one of the greatest shows of all time by its fandom for a while, and very few things are ever going to actually live up to that. Like the majority of fandoms at the time, the fans less so liked what the show actually was, and moreso liked the version of it they could create for themselves by picking around the parts that were enjoyable and ignoring the parts that werenât.â
So are these criticisms also true of Stranger Things?
Was Stranger Things always actually just mid, and only likeableâor bad, and only salvageableâby picking and choosing which parts of it to focus on, and ignoring the rest?
For S5 Volume 2 (and particularly 5.8) I think you can plausibly argue that it had objectively worse writing than the rest of the show, and that the uniqueness of the characters, and the core themes of the plot, and the mood and tone⊠kind of fell apart (more on that later). Though, 5.8 did at least resolve the narrative threads it picked up⊠even if the resolutions were dumb.
But was the ending of Stranger Things so bad that it makes us look back and think the rest of the show was actually bad all along, too?
Personally, Iâd argue thereâs nothing in S5 that retroactively ruins anything from S1 to S3. And while S4 might be a little tarnished by association, it did and does still stand on its own. As Sarah Z notes, any fandom will pick and choose which bits of a show to focus onâfor example, I have only ever seen 2.7: âThe Lost Sisterâ one time, always skipping it on a rewatchâbut is Stranger Things only good if you ignore half of it?
Above, I specified that âS5 Volume 2 (and particularly 5.8)â was worse than the rest of the showâbecause S5 Volume 1 was actually very well received by fandom and general audience (GA).
A rewatch might be bittersweet, knowing where things ended upâŠ
⊠but I donât think the fumbles in the latter half of the season make you look back on Volume 1 and realise it wasnât actually as good as you remembered it.
In fact, if anything, the disappointment of 5.8 is making people regard Volume 1 even more favourably, in comparison.
A sort of âwe could have had it allâ mentality.
The overall fandom and GA consensus appears to be that S5 dropped abruptly in quality from Volume 1 to Volume 2. âDropped abruptly in qualityâ is a fundamentally different criticism from âwas always bad, which becomes clear in hindsightâ.
Why would a show drop in quality? Itâs not that there arenât reasons this might have happenedâtime pressures, internal disagreements, writers strikes causing script issuesâbut itâs quite a different proposition from something like, âLooking back on the show, the narrative bones and production capability for a good ending were simply never there.â
Stranger Things S5 Volume 1 showed us they can do a great job⊠whereas everything that went before the Sherlock finale demonstrated the opposite.
Sherlock experienced a slow, butâin retrospectâinevitable collapse.
Is that true of Stranger Things?
Was 5.8 destined to be awful⊠or is it more reasonable, in this case, to have hoped for better?
Summary:
Sherlock started off on shaky ground, and inevitably collapsed under the weight of its own plot holes and contradictions.
Stranger Things started off with a banger in S1, and maintained a high (though perhaps not quite the same) level of quality through three and a half more seasons⊠only to falter in the final half-season, and collapse in the last episode.
This abrupt, mid-season drop in quality begs an explanation: run-of-the-mill production failures, or something else?
2.4: Contempt for the genre, contempt for the audience
In terms of manipulating its audience, Sherlock persistently masqueraded as a mystery, detective, or crime-solving show. This is a well-established genreânot least in the, you know, genre-defining source materialâwith encoded rules and inherent expectations from its audience.
For the audience of a detective show (or novel, or game, etc.), the whole point is being given clues alongside the characters, and having a chance to puzzle through the evidence and figure out for yourself what it might meanâŠ
⊠and right from the start, Sherlock didnât even do that right.
Hereâs hbomberguy again:
âIn most investigations after this [first] one, Sherlock starts either making wild assumptions that donât have any basis in reality, or straight-up learns key information [off-screen] the viewer isnât even told about.â
Famously, the showrunners left Sherlockâs inexplicable survival at the end of S2 unexplained, so that people would speculate on it in the years running up to S3âŠ
⊠but then they never explained it.
âIn fact, season 3 features several characters whose sole job is to portray fan theories and theorists and make fun of them, and call them stupid for bothering to try and figure out what happened based on the information given to them by the show. [âŠ] They spend a huge chunk of this episode literally calling people stupid for reading into the storyâs clear, intentional subtext instead of⊠you know, writing better text!â
Not only did the showrunners not seem to get it, they repeatedly went out of their way to mock people engaging with the show on the level of the genre it purported to belong to.
â[Sherlock is so] hateful towards people for expecting things to make sense and trying to form a theory out of what they were shown that itâs almost avant-garde.â (hbomberguy)
It became a common occurrence on the show that you would be presented with a little mystery or trick that any normal piece of detective or crime fiction would gleefully explain to youâperhaps after giving you some time to think about it and make your best guessâ
âbut Sherlock treats these moments as sweet nothings that you, the audience, are stupid for being intrigued by.
As hbomberguy and Sarah Z both put it:
âThis [reveal that Sherlock didnât actually find Mary through any sort of deductive reasoning] is played for a joke, but itâs not a comedy fun-time jokey-joke, to laugh at for comedy hijinksâitâs a joke at the expense of the audience for even wanting to know how Sherlock did something. Sherlock finds Mary, and fuck you if you hoped for or expected something clever.â
This is important to the whole question of TJLC, because part of what created the conditions for TJLC to spawn and thrive in was the dissonance between:
A. Being told that Sherlock was a detective show, and
B. The showrunners mocking audiences for treating Sherlock like a detective show.
As Sarah Z puts it:
âThe [Sherlock] showrunners would actively egg fans on [as they tried to work out how Sherlock faked his death]âwith comments like, âYou guys are doing great, but thereâs one crucial detail youâre all missing!â In effect, the show very much framed this as a mystery that couldâand wouldâbe solved with the information that fans were given.â
(I'm somehow still amazed by this, but it really was never actually explained how Sherlock faked his death. The one plausibly correct accountâfrom Sherlock himselfâwas subsequently presented as either a lie to or a hallucination of one of the other characters.)
That is to say, there was also dissonance created between:
C. The showrunners seemingly reinforcing the idea that Sherlock was a detective show by constantly encouraging analysis and attention to detail, and
D. The showrunners being either unaware that Sherlock was a detective show, or going out of their way to âsubvertâ the show and its genre.
That is to say, TJLC was born out of the belief that Sherlock would deliver on its own implicit and explicit promises, despite increasing evidence to the contrary.
The only other real alternative for fans was to believe that they were being lied to and treated with contemptâand itâs perfectly reasonable not to (want to) believe that a show you love would go out of its way to be a bad example of its genre, and also to mock you for expecting otherwise.
As hbomberguy points out, Sherlock was always trying to be sooo âcleverâ and âsubversiveâ. The showrunners were more interested in shocking the audience than in telling a good story or providing coherent characterisation (especially for the antagonists). This demonstrates a clear disdain for the showâs own source material and genre: itâs not good enough for these super-smart writers to simply lay clues that lead to the resolution of a mysteryâ
âno, what matters is that the audience is always shocked.
Always kept guessing.
But, in the end, Sherlock aimed to be subversive to the point of not paying off its own plot points:
âThis endless twisting and untwisting runs through season 4 to such a degree that you can never be certain of anything, and this makes you unable to give a shit about any of it.â (hbomberguy)
Considering all this, can we make a similar critique of Stranger Things?
Does Stranger Things fail its own genreâintentionally or otherwiseâto the point of becoming a mockery of its influences, itself, and its fans?
Iâll go into more detail on the genre question in the next section, but overall, in contrast to Sherlock, one of the major genre-based criticisms of Stranger Things is actually that itâs derivative nostalgia-bait: that it leans too heavily on its influences and âsource materialâ.
And I think itâs fair to say that up to episode 5.8, the tone and content of Stranger Things are both pretty internally consistent, and also consistent with the various media that influenced the show. Itâs just not creating that same kind of dissonance between how youâre implicitly and explicitly told to read the text.
Thatâs not to say there havenât been some wobbles⊠but it would be hard to argue that up to episode 5.8, Stranger Things has ever treated its source material, inspirations, genre, or fans with contempt.
Oh, but episode 5.8âŠ
Summary:
Sherlock created a bizarre dissonance for its fans between its apparent genre and how they were supposed to be engaging with it. That dissonance was part of what caused some fans to disbelieve that the show could invite so much investment and yet actively disdain and discard the people who invested in it, which was part of what led to TJLC.
Stranger Things, for all its flaws, does not create that kind of dissonance⊠with the glaring exception of episode 5.8.
Which brings us to...
2.5: The glaring exception
Episode 5.8 is an outlier, and thereâs no way around it.
I already noted above that:
up to episode 5.8, the tone and content of Stranger Things are both pretty internally consistent, and also consistent with the media that influenced the show
S5 dropped abruptly in quality from Volume 1 to Volume 2: Volume 1 was very well received by fandom and the GA, but Volume 2 (and particularly 5.8) were objectively worse written than Volume 1, and arguably the rest of the show
Specifically, I noted that in 5.8, the uniqueness of the characters and the core themes of the plot, and the mood and tone in general, just kind of fell apart.
Letâs dig into that a little more.
You could, unfortunately, imagine a certain sort of contempt in the way 5.8 is so glaringly dissonant from the rest of the season, and the rest of the series.
For example, you could imagine the writers going:
âYou thought this show was a psychological thriller? You thought all those clocks and rainbows and character parallels meant something? You thought our protagonist might live, or at least die while fighting to save the people she loves?
âFuck you: giant Spider Flayer fight with lots of slime and fire and bullets! Joyce finally gets to use that axe on someone! What Demogorgons?? El commits suicide in service of the B-plot we didn't introduce until 5.5! Everyone but the female protagonist lives hap-satisfied ever after!â
⊠sir.
It's not impossible to believe that this was what happened, but itâs⊠difficult. Unlike with Sherlock, this kind of mentality would be inconsistent with the show and the showrunnersâ history.
Additionally, even you donât believe in conformitygate, you canâand basically everyone else has chosen toâaccept 5.8 as a bit of a failure of a finale, but at least made badly in good faith. For example, the Spider Flayer is a stupid Marvel-esque gimmick⊠but you canât argue we couldnât have seen something like that coming, based on the fleshy chamber and beating heart hints we were given, starting in 5.4. Everything we got in the finale was internally consistent and set up more or less properly throughout the season.
Again, as with Sherlock, the bad ending didnât come out of nowhereâbut unlike with Sherlock, it was a complete tonal departure from what had gone before. Did they suddenly fuck up that badly, or did they set up a deliberately unsatisfying, transgressive ending?
⊠if so, why?
Thereâs also a formal difference to consider, here. Each Sherlock episode is a roughly self-contained 1.5 hour-long story, so itâs not entirely necessary or reasonable to conclude that the finale would have picked up and tied off plot threads from previous episodes.
In fact, Sherlock S4 wasn't even intended to be the final season. It was just another season, 4/?. The reason it ended up being the last was because of... every awful thing I've mentioned so far in this post, plus some. Nobody wanted more, after that.
The story of Sherlock ended there, but it didnât culminate there.
But Stranger Things S5 was a proper TV season, where all episodes ultimately served the same story. The finale really was meant to be a culminationâat minimum of S5, really also of S4, and arguably of the entire series. We did very reasonably expect it to tie everything together and, at minimum, not stick out like a sore thumb.
So letâs go back a step.
What is the genre of Stranger Things? (Netflix lists its genres as drama, sci-fi, teen, and says, âThis series is: Ominous, Nostalgic, Scary.â ... Eh.) The show is generally accepted to bridge multiple genres, but letâs say by S5 the genre is something like âsupernatural horror / psychological thrillerâ.
And what are the themes of Stranger Things? Thereâs plenty you could say about that too, but letâs just toss some obvious ones out there to start:
championing the freaks and outcastsâyou win by staying true to yourself
love wins over fearâyou win by fighting for your loved ones
brains over brawnâyou win by being smart, not just by being strong
From that perspective... does the resolution of the S4/S5 A-plot (reflecting the main concept, premise, and message(s) of the show), at minimum, satisfy the requirements of its genre(s)?
Is 5.8 a supernatural horror? It is not: you can make an argument for the supernatural, obviously (though supernatural fiction tends to focus more on suspense and mystery than action and adventure)⊠but horror (intended to disturb or frighten an audience)?
Is 5.8 a psychological thriller? It is not: this genre focuses on mental, emotional, and psychological statesâhallmarks include distorted perceptions/reality, and elements of mystery, drama, action, and paranoia. We certainly had the setup for all that, but not the payoff. The only real element of any of this in 5.8 is Vecnaâs attack on Hopper.
Does it provide a satisfying conclusion to the showâs themes?
Does 5.8 champion freaks and outcasts? It does not: there's a reason the theory is called âconformitygateâ, even setting aside the concept of Mikeâs repressed sexuality.
Did the heroes win in 5.8 by staying true to themselves? They did not: in the finaleâthe fight, in particularâevery character was essentially interchangeable, and the victory didnât come from anyoneâs particular personality traits, except perhaps Nancyâs bravery.
Does 5.8 show love winning over fear? It does not: Elâs death is a prime example (though not the only example) of the message that, sometimes, love isnât enoughâsometimes you have to give in to fear.
Did the heroes win in 5.8 by fighting for their loved ones? They did not: nobodyâs loved ones ever really seemed to be at risk, aside maybe from Holly, and the fight generally came off very impersonalâeven El and Vecnaâs showdown, despite their personal history.
Did the heroes win in 5.8 by being smart, not just by being strong? They did not: the A-plot of S4 and S5 is about defeating a master manipulator with literal psychic powers, and it is resolved by our protagonists⊠erm, ripping off his arm, impaling him through the heart, and beheading him. They win against Vecna and the Shadow/Spider/Mind Flayerâa creature whose MO is to infiltrate and possess its victimsâthrough brute force. Chipping away at their hit points.
Any one of these would be an obvious betrayal of the material that came before it.
All of them together⊠is downright suspicious.
Thus conformitygate.
All of this is to say: 5.8 was an extreme outlier in Stranger Things, in every possible way, from the production quality and characterisation right down to the very bones of the messaging.
Again, there is a reason conformitygate is called thatâthe finale feels like a betrayal of the showâs themes about nonconformity. But not just that. Itâs a betrayal of the themes of the power of love and friendship, and of the value of intelligence and heart over fear and force. Itâs a betrayal of its blended genre, characterised by suspense, mystery, psychological states, distorted perceptions/reality, and disturbing and frightening ideas.
5.8 is a one-episode inversion of all that went before it.
Throughout this post Iâve compared this to the ending of Sherlockâa common point of comparison in fandom spaceâto point out that though the ending of Sherlock was appalling, it wasnât, itself, a betrayal of all that had gone before it.
Sherlock was just⊠like that.
But this leaves us at a crossroads: was the betrayal of 5.8 unintentionally appallingâŠ
⊠or was it done intentionally as a set-up for the real payoff?
Summary:
Episode 5.8 is an outlier in Stranger Things: a one-episode inversion of all that went before it in tone, in message, in characterisation. The consistent hallmarks of the showâs supernatural horror / psychological thriller genre seem to vanish, replaced with a seemingly new genre of action adventure / teen drama, and accompanying new messaging. The narrative beats are technically coherent, but it all feels⊠off.
This was either an astoundingly comprehensive and shocking fuck-up, or a deliberate choice. Jury's still out.
2.6: âThereâs never a secret episode!â
Not entirely correct, but close enough.
For the sake of argument, letâs take this on its face:
We have done this before. You have all been convinced before thereâs more content incoming that will âfix everythingââyou even had plausible evidence for your theory then, like you do now. But you werenât right then, and you arenât right now.
First, letâs look at the most obvious logical fallacy in that statement: either denying the antecedent or a fallacy of necessity. As this TJLC/conformitygate comparison is normally presented, itâs an overly simplistic argument: âthereâs never a secret episode!â, or âTJLC did not happen, therefore conformitygate cannot happenâ.
Here is what I take to be the underlying logic:
(1) TJLC and conformitygate share many meaningful characteristics (outlined in Part 1).
[(2a) If TJLC had happened, then conformitygate could happen.] [(2b) This means we can make assumptions about one based on the other.]
(3) TJLC did not happen.
(4) Therefore, conformitygate cannot happen.
(1), (2a), and (3) are all true, while (2b) is only potentially true, not necessarily true. Either way, (4) does not follow from any of them. This argument does not prove (4) to be true. (This barely even needs to be pointed out, but still.)
TJLC and conformitygate are certainly similar, but they are not actually correlatedâitâs not logically coherent to make an argument about one based on the other. In other words, TJLC not happening doesnât make it any more or less likely that conformitygate will happen (with one exception, which Iâll get to in a moment).
And even if you presented this general argument in the broadest possible sense, you would hit the same problem:
(1) There has never been secret âgoodâ content revealed after the finale in any comparable situation to conformitygate.
(2) Therefore, conformitygate cannot result in the revelation of secret âgoodâ content.
This is obviously illogical, even if I agreed that (1) were true, but to be crystal clear: the fact that something has not happened does not, in logical terms, mean that it cannot happen.
All of these fallacies are rooted in the assumption of correlation based on similarityâbut there is no correlative factor that would cause TJLC and confirmitygate to end up the same way.
They are different shows produced by different people in different countries, by different studios, for different audiences, in different formats, at different times, in different sociopolitical contexts, and, most interestingly, in different fandom contexts.
Summary:
In brief, no argument based on precedent can ever concretely disprove a future event. No matter how similar TJLC and conformitygate are, they are not actually correlated.
2.7: On precedent
By âdifferent fandom contextsâ, I specifically mean that conformitygate is happening in the world that TJLC left behind.
Conformitygate (2026) could not have had any impact on TJLC (2017)âbut TJLC (2017) could have had an impact on conformitygate (2026).
The people responsible for executing conformitygate (if it were true) are likely to be aware of TJLCâwhat factors caused it, the backlash it caused in turn, and how the embarrassment of it still festers in the roots of fandom.
How it might cause people to react to the possibility of a repeat situation with immediate hostility and vehement denial⊠making it much easier for showrunners to hide their intentions than before we were all burned.
And we know for a fact that the Duffers were studying other showsâ endings to understand what to do and what not to do:
âSpeaking exclusively to RadioTimes.com, the Duffers revealed that they studied their favourite finales and tried to figure out what worked well, with Ross Duffer explaining: âWe were looking mostly at the ones that were successful. There are probably more whiffs and misses than there are people that have stuck the landing, because I think it's hard when you've been running for a long time â there are so many expectations.ââ
ââThey have had their hearts broken by shows that they loved that failed fans in the end,â says Stranger Things executive producer Shawn Levy [âŠ]. âThey did not want, and do not want, and refuse to be one of those shows.ââ
Whether or not Sherlock was one of those âwhiff or missâ shows that failed fans in the end is an unknown, but itâs certainly plausible. Sherlock was a notable example of a show with a failed endingâTJLC obviously wasnât as seismic in the mainstream as it was in contemporary fandom, but it did get reported on smugly in the media, for example in The Independent.
To be blunt: the people responsible for executing conformitygate (if it were true) may have been influenced or inspired by TJLC. From that point of view, if you compare the two situations, conformitygate is actually marginally more likely to happen in response to TJLC.
And it's worth noting that after the Sherlock finale, Moffat and the other showrunners immediately, definitively, and derisively debunked the claim that there was going to be an additional episode.
Unless Iâve missed a major development, we still do not have definitive denial of some sort of additional content from the Stranger Things showrunners.
Summary:
Not only is it not true that the failure of TJLC means that conformitygate will go the same way, it's actually marginally more likely that conformitygate is true given that the showrunners may well be reacting to TJLC, or other disappointing shows like Sherlock that spawned TJLC in the first place.
Part 3: Summary and conclusion
Although itâs superficially reasonable to compare conformitygate to TJLC as a debunking measure, when you get down to it, the comparison falls apart.
Itâs pretty clear in retrospect that Sherlock was never really a good show, and that the shitty ending was a logical conclusion. The same is not true of Stranger Things. Even accounting for 5.8, the previous seasons still stand on their own qualityâincluding the first half of S5.
Whereas Sherlock exhibited a slow decline from a questionable start, Stranger Thingsâ decline was very sudden and very noticeable, making the ending feel jarring and out-of-character.
Sherlock seemed to intentionally lack:
enough depth or thematic structure to facilitate meaningful analysis
any apparent interest in, respect for, or knowledge of its own (presumptive) genre of crime fictionâit went out of its way to mock, subvert or âoutwitâ the source material and its own generic requirements, and scorn its audience for attempting to engage with it in good faith
If anything, the inverse critique is truer of Stranger Things: that it is too reliant on its own sources and influences, to the point of being derivative nostalgia-bait. Up until the glaring exception of 5.8, Stranger Things in general and S5 in particular maintained a clear appreciation for and deft execution of its own genre(s), and its own major themes.
The utter failure of this in 5.8 is an obvious inconsistency and betrayal⊠obvious to the point of being suspicious.
The conformitygate theory holds that the reason 5.8 was such a glaring outlier was because itâs telling us something is wrong, whether thatâs:
conformitygate Lite (itâs telling us the villain actually won), or
conformitygate Xtreme (itâs telling us this isnât the real ending)
Now, I will firmly repeat what I said at the beginning of this post: I want conformitygate (Xtreme) to be true, and I do genuinely think it can be true⊠but I do not and cannot know that it is true. Nobody on here can. And all of us have a responsibility not to lose sight of that reality in our desire to be right. Or, worse, to be vindicated.
Itâs important to approach all this with the understanding and acceptance that if 5.8 is the real ending, then all the inconsistencies and plot holes you found that supported conformitygate⊠were just inconsistencies and plot holes.
And, historically, fandoms clamouring about âsecret extra content on the way that will fix everything!â has not ended well for anyone.
⊠but:
it is logically incoherent to argue that something cannot or will not happen because it hasnât happened before, and
conformitygate is happening in the world that TJLC and other conspiracy theories left behindâconspiracy theories which could serve as inspiration
And finally, there is one specific, fundamental element of Stranger Thingsâand its primary antagonistsâthat went essentially untapped in 5.8: the element of the psychological thriller. Vecna is a master manipulator with literal psychic powersâŠ
⊠which, in the end, amounted to nothing.
He was defeated in a 5-minute brawl. Iâve had longer fights with a stubborn orange peel.
Suppose the psychological thriller is yet to come?
(Couldn't resist the Pirates reference.)
Conformitygate is no less likely because it would be the first of its kind. Given its global popularity, its psychological themes, and its creatorsâ creative clout, Stranger Things certainly has the means to pull off a conformitygate Xtreme.
And also?
It would be so fucking cool.
And thereâs no way the showrunners havenât considered that. They have motive.
And in a world where almost nobody would willingly believe that they would dare, after weâve all been burned, humiliated, and disappointed by shows we loved and had high hopes for so many times before⊠they have opportunity.
Fanboy!Mike x Former Actor!Will | Rated M for themes
Mike has the opportunity of a lifetime, a chance to talk to one of the cast members of Hollow Point. Little does he know what this chance has in store for him.
A multi-chapter WIP Byler fanfic about loser fanboy!Mike x former actor!Will. Rated M for themes (read tags & notes).
Romcom AU. Hurt/Comfort. Fake dating.
Mike's favorite supernatural TV show, "Hollow Point", abysmally ended last year, and he's still not over it. Especially when his reaction spurred a harassment campaign towards the cast and crew, but especially against the lead actor, William Byers.
What happens when their paths cross?
Currently 2 chapters posted, will share when I have more up! Thank you for checking it out. đŠ
It's called "Our Story, Just Different Again". I am gonna try and make it 6 chapters long. See what I can achieve if I keep myself to it.
I am gonna be posting this AU soon enough, but it may take some time. There's a lot I need to develop for it (including a show within the fic, oops). Trying to think of what type of merch Mike has, so I'm trying to draw what I think this show would have
Here's the current inspo playlist (Spotify), if you're down for some interesting songs? Mostly from Mike's perspective right now, but we will see what else I add.