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@piv-negative
https://twitter.com/LailaMickelwait/status/1228601617143828480
As a recently recovering porn addicted female, radical feminists are not cherry picking when they pull this crap up.
I have come across so many videos of women who are clearly in pain saying, “stop” and “no” and “I don’t like this” and bursting into tears while men ignore them. One of the last videos I saw before quitting had a man telling a woman she’d do the thing if she loved him/that she had to prove it. This is not healthy, playful kink that everyone enjoys. This is fucking abuse.
i broke and went on pornhub (about half a year ago, after a month of trying to be porn free) and out of curiosity i clicked on the number one video in poland and it was a girl stuck in a washing machine being raped by her brother while crying and repeatedly saying „no”.
that was the last time i watched porn.
Again, y'all seem to don’t know what acting is.
There are some sex kink called cnc….
@obsidianthunderwolf None of this is ‘acting’, all the sex acts, all the physical violence is real, it’s not choreographed like a fight scene in a Hollywood movie, it’s not faked with computer FX or prosthetic body parts. Every sex act you see in porn is real, the only ‘acted’ parts are the scenarios around the sex, like the ‘exit interviews’ which the female porn performers have to fake, if they want to get paid at all.
@itsmeuendi I wish porn-apologists would make up thier minds, porn can’t be both completely faked and also a true recording of the porn performers’ real-life sexuality.
Nah, it’s still acting. And the actors consent to be in that situation. Don’t like porn, don’t watch it.
Do people not realize that they’re some people that like to do this kinda stuff? Don’t get me wrong I’ve heard some horror stories of actual things going on with trafficking, but not every single crying video is real or actual women being trafficking. Christ almighty if they see petplay they’ll say it’s bestiality it the idea of making women seem less then human despite a large number of men being into it aswell
Vanilla People Not Knowing Kink is 90% Elaborate Roleplay: Example #2,740,876
Are you really claiming that the electric shocks aren’t real, that the punches are all pulled? You think porn performers can act that well? The women who do BDSM porn are not part of the ‘scene’ (which is full of abuse anyway), they are drug addicts desperate for money, or they are 18-year-olds who have done 2-3 porn shoots as ‘fresh faces’ and now their only option is BDSM porn.
Oh, yay. Slut-shaming. How feminist of you. (And also putting down people who have a substance abuse problem. How compassionate.)
Plus yes, most of it is simulated. Because that’s what ACTING is. Also, eighteen is legal age in the United States. I don’t see you get too upset about young men who end up doing gay porn.
Also, next time show me a site that isn’t a radical feminist site or a Fundie site, okay? I’m not gonna believe a damn thing these people write because there’s not a whole bunch of balanced research going into them.
How on earth is pointing out all the abuse in the sex industry ‘slut shaming’? Do you really think hiding behind empty slogans is a substitute for a good argument?
Porn is not acted, every single sex act in porn is real, and I don’t know how you can possibly even try to argue otherwise.
I am against gay porn just as much as I am against any other type of porn, gay porn has just as much violence and degradation in it as het porn, and all the same tropes of coercion and inequality.
It is very obvious you are not looking at the links, my blog post on the BDSM scene directly quotes women who were in the ‘scene’, and the other two links describe mainstream documentaries about the sex industry, hardly ‘fundamentalist’!
you prudes really don’t get it do you ?
when she’s crying she’s acting
when she’s smiling she’s not acting
when she says “it hurts” she’s acting
when she says “I love it” she’s not acting
when an advert on TV presents women as domestic servants it’s wrong
when a video on a porn site presents women as sexual slaves it’s good
women’s sexual liberation takes place in a literal cage
now stop annoying people with your weird considerations about women’s well being, ok ? it’s off-putting and makes us think about someone other than ourselves
For both porn addled bonobos in this thread: i wouldnt give a shit even if it WAS “only acting.” Because somebody jacking off to people screaming or being put in harm, pain, or humiliation causes a pavlovian response to sexual abuse scenarios. And we dont even have to explain how that bleeds into “real life”
“The actors consent to being in that situation” yeah and i consented to clocking into a welding job where my booth was feet away from a ceiling high stack of rusty scrap metal and other awful conditions cause i wanted money. That doesnt mean i like it. That doesnt mean the porn actors liked it. And you know what it says of you if you like projecting yourself into sex someone doesnt want?
and why is it almost always women being subjected to violence? hm 🤔
And how do you know it’s acting? You have no way to know for most of these videos, so why assume it’s acting? Trafficking is an extremely huge ‘industry’ and even if it wasn’t trafficked, so many porn stars have admitted that they were abused and hated it and want(ed) to quit.
Whether it’s acting or not is irrelevant. What’s disturbing is that men get seek out videos portraying women being tortured to wank to.
How can it not disturb and enrage you that men WANT to see women being tortured so they can get off?
after seeing porn outtakes nobody can convince me that the published videos are consensual. a woman was crying that she didnt want to do it and the man kept going (so shes getting raped on the job) and she had a meltdown and pushed him off and ran off set. of course they forced her to come back and endure it. if that video was published it would look no different from the videos you deem as “cnc”
Imagine defending getting off to women in pain, because even though the vast majority of porn is user uploaded and there is no way to verify it was consensual, you still think men should be trained to find pain disturbing. Men, the largest rapers of women, men, and children.
Everyone justifying this should send me their address.
@bizarrolord okay! There is actually plenty of balanced research, you porn-addled Coomers just don’t want to platform it.
A study of 14 to 19 year olds found that females who consumed pornographic videos were at a significantly greater likelihood of being victims of sexual harassment or sexual assault.
A 2015 meta-analysis of 22 studies from seven countries found that internationally the consumption of pornography was significantly associated with increases in verbal and physical aggression, among males and females alike.
Traffickers show pornography to sex trafficking victims to train them and desensitize them to the sex acts they will be forced to perform.
Internet pornography use is linked to increases in problematic sexual activity at younger ages, and a greater likelihood of engaging in risky sexual behavior such as hookups, multiple sex partners, etc.
Exposure to violent pornography is directly linked to teen dating violence.
I have a fuckton more.
Watching porn addicts explain why watching women being abused under the guise of acting is totally fine is the best way to realize that they are the most pathetic low lives just slightly above incels
“I need to wank to women crying and in pain and if you criticize me, you are a prude, slut shaming vanilla bitch”
I would say go die in a ditch, but you are already probably dying in your mothers basement to begin with.
As a study reveals a sharp rise in the number of schoolgirls at risk of emotional problems, Allison Pearson says we need to embolden our daughters to fight back against pornography - however embarrassing it may be PORNOGRAPHY HAS CHANGED THE LANDSCAPE OF ADOLESCENTS BEYOND ALL RECOGNITION “… The end result is what Sue sees in her work as a GP. Young girls – children, really – who abase themselves to pass for normal in a grim, pornified culture. Another study of British teenagers found that most youngsters’ first experience of anal sex occurred within a relationship, but it was “rarely under circumstances of mutual exploration of sexual pleasure”. Instead, it was boys who pushed the girls to try it, with boys reporting that they felt “expected” to take that role. Moreover, both genders expected males to find pleasure in the act whereas females were mostly expected to “endure the negative aspects such as pain or a damaged reputation”… …A GP, let’s call her Sue, said: “I’m afraid things are much worse than people suspect.” In recent years, Sue had treated growing numbers of teenage girls with internal injuries caused by frequent anal sex; not, as Sue found out, because she wanted to, or because she enjoyed it – on the contrary – but because a boy expected her to…Her patients were deeply ashamed at presenting with such injuries… …However embarrassing it may be, we need to educate and embolden our daughters to fight back against pornography, which is warping the behaviour of boys who are supposed to be their lovers, not their abusers. Anything that hurts and humiliates you is never OK. I suggest that future sex education classes begin with this joke: “I asked my wife to try anal sex. ‘Sure,’ she said: ‘You first.’” PS: I just texted my own teenager for her view. She texted back: “A lot of truth to this. I think dubious consent is the greatest problem of my generation.”
Note: Even though this is a great article as it raises awareness and states that porn is damaging - unfortunately it still ends by inferring that the control and resolution to the problem is theoretically in the hands of women, i.e. that mothers need to teach their daughters to “fight back” against the effects of porn (i.e.coerced anal sex). This idea is no more than the all to familiar patriarchal refrain that it is not men and boys - but women and girls who need to change their behavior! Which is victim-blaming 101. Although the author of the article is clearly criticizing porn-culture - the article ultimately serves to reinforce patriarchal ideas about responsibility - as well as to inadvertently reveal just how ingrained victim-blaming is in our collective psyche.
from pinterest
“Women have always been expected to conform to the desires, needs and beauty standards for male consumption. … The use of the male gaze across all media platforms for years has perpetuated the narrative that our bodies exist for them, and is a contributing factor to why so many women experience sexual assault.”
— Florence Given
Pornography does not simply create a climate in which sex and violence are interchangeable; it widens the range of behavior considered acceptable from men in heterosexual intercourse -- behavior which reiteratively strips women of their autonomy, dignity, and sexual potential.
Adrienne Rich (x) (via girlsmoonsandstars)
The topic of PIV (intercourse) as rape has been discussed by many radical feminist writers. … While every woman may not be beaten into submission in her lifetime, the abuse of other women serves as an example to keep the rest of us in line.
”The problem with consent to intercourse” (via always-only-women)
The cognitive dissonance men need for this!
A Common Theme, from Gentlemen: “It’s obvious girls & women get attacked all the time, they should constantly be on their guard in public, guys get women way too drunk on purpose as ‘a move’, don’t ever let a woman walk alone at night- but I personally don’t know any predatory men whatsoever.”
It’s not dissonance. Men actively benefit from a society where women are in constant fear of sexual harassment/rape. They prefer the way we are socialized because of it. And they prefer the bar being so low for ~nice guys~ to be the bare minimum of decent human beings. This type of society is more important than the safety of individual women in their life.
“Men actively benefit from a society where women are in constant fear ...”