Pretty Liars With Dirty Secrets

Pretty Little Liars Theory Blog

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

Wow I haven't posted on here in a long while, I still watch the show regularly I just haven't been looking into it as much !

[totalariana]

I love when attractive people are nice like thanks for not letting your looks go to your head you’re even more attractive now

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

So I have a theory…

So I wasn’t shocked at the reveal of Mrs D having a twin as I had already theorised that and was definitely expecting it. What did shock me was a thought I had that really made a lot of sense to me. So here goes…

Let me take you back to season 1… Do you remember the story that Ali told Hanna about the two twins in the kitchen ? One twin stabbed her sister after arguing over who gets to play with a doll. If you don’t remember here’s a link to the video of it:

http://youtu.be/QudP3Zup1s8

After seeing Mary Drake’s (Mrs Dilaurentis’ twins) Radley admission form it gave me a thought that tumbled into this giant theory that I now strongly believe. Mary Drakes file says she had violent outbursts where she would lash out and throw things. This made me think of the two twins that argued and one stabbed the other. Maybe, this wasn’t a story after all and what really happened to Mary and was the reason why she was sent to radley ?

My theory is that like the story Ali told Hanna. 25 years ago when Mary Drake was admitted to Radley and Mrs D adopted Charles Mrs Dilaurentis and Mary were arguing, but not over a doll. Over Charles. Mrs D suggested that whilst Mary is in Radley she should look after Charles as she doesn’t feel he is safe there. Mary is very angry and sees this as like her sister is trying to take her child away from her. Mary lashes out and stabs her sister ( Mrs Dilaurentis ). Mary is then seen as unstable and dangerous and this is the reason why Mary is then sent to Radley and Mrs D adopts Charles. Because Mary is unstable,Violent and is unfit to look after a child.

This is very messily written as its 3 am here but feel free to leave any criticism or questions if you have any :) I might try rewrite this properly.

Btw I’m back !!

Edited: after I messed up a bit

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

So I have a theory…

So I wasn’t shocked at the reveal of Mrs D having a twin as I had already theorised that and was definitely expecting it. What did shock me was a thought I had that really made a lot of sense to me. So here goes…

Let me take you back to season 1… Do you remember the story that Ali told Hanna about the two twins in the kitchen ? One twin stabbed her sister after arguing over who gets to play with a doll. If you don’t remember here’s a link to the video of it:

http://youtu.be/QudP3Zup1s8

After seeing Mary Drake’s (Mrs Dilaurentis’ twins) Radley admission form it gave me a thought that tumbled into this giant theory that I now strongly believe. Mary Drakes file says she had violent outbursts where she would lash out and throw things. This made me think of the two twins that argued and one stabbed the other. Maybe, this wasn’t a story after all and what really happened to Mary and was the reason why she was sent to radley ?

My theory is that like the story Ali told Hanna. 25 years ago when Mary Drake was admitted to Radley and Mrs D adopted Charles Mrs Dilaurentis and Mary were arguing, but not over a doll. Over Charles. Mrs D suggested that Mary should check into Radley as she was concerned about her mental health and Charles’ safety. Mary is very angry and sees this as like her sister is trying to take her child away from her. Mary lashes out and stabs her sister ( Mrs Dilaurentis ). Mary is then seen as unstable and dangerous and this is the reason why Mary is then sent to Radley and Mrs D adopts Charles. Because Mary is unstable,Violent and is unfit to look after a child.

This is very messily written as its 3 am here but feel free to leave any criticism or questions if you have any :) I might try rewrite this properly.

Btw I’m back !!

[a-lovebug74]

I thought the file said that Mary had Charles while she was in radley?

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

Sorry yep ! My bad. I meant go back and edit the theory but come playlet forgot to :)

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

Unfollowing if you call her Shower Harvey

If I see anyone on my dashboard refer to Sara Harvey as “Shower Harvey” I am immediately going to unfollow you. No matter how long we have been mutuals,how good your blog is, or what a nice person you are. I’m sick of it. This is what my rant is about

I’m sorry if you are annoyed or confused by me doing this but it’s annoyed me for a long time.

[emmypalmermusic]

Why would this of all things on PLL annoy you? Haha seems kinda ridiculous in light of everything else on that show.

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

I was someone who was fine with the episode as I already theorised it would happen that way and wasn’t actually mad about it. Yeah we didn’t get much answers and it was confusing but what do you expect. I excepted it, writings gone down hill, it’s all about money now. Did you really think we’d get all the answers in 40 minutes. ?

The reason I’m unfollowing people is FAR from ridiculous, referring to her as shower Harvey is literally a fucking joke that was made about her behaviour which is NORMAL FOR A SURVIVOR OF SUCH TRAUMA. Granted? She was helping Cece and that may have been faked but did we know that before the finale episode ? No! Sara’s character was given that specific thing for a reason, to make her behaviour seem more realistic and she was made fun of for it. She’s been called this for weeks, there are multiple jokes about it and I honestly do not find them funny because they’re based off of an aspect of mental illness and made into such a joke it’s vile.

You can feel happy making fun of someone who wants to shower all the time because of what she’s been through and them just wanting to be clean, but from having friends who have suffered abuse and having personal experience myself. I find it repulsive which is why I won’t be arguing with anyone just unfollowing.

Finale ( semi ridiculous for fans who’s theories weren’t the correct ones. Wren didn’t make sense to be Charles, at all. Sorry )

Shower Harvey - joke based on real behaviour of abuse survivors ( far from ridiculous )

[emmypalmermusic]

I think everybody knew she was sketchy and not who she said she was so I have no problem with shower Harvey. Cause she was a liar like I PREDICTED haha so Ya turns out the showers were exactly when she would call Cece. It wasn’t a shocker, nobody watching the show believed her.

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

Shower Harvey has nothing to do with her being sketchy, I knew she was sketchy. I had a whole theory about her being sketchy and not being who she said she was so yeah. I know that she’s sketchy, I was aware she was sketchy as soon as she was introduced but that doesn’t mean that calling her shower Harvey is okay. I’ve explained exactly why I didn’t like the name so you don’t need to say that it has to do with her being sketchy because I said that was irrelevant. If you thought she was sketchy. Call her sketch Sara. Showering has nothing to do with her being sketchy.

I’ve said sketchy way too many times for this post anyway and if you really want know why I don’t like it have a look at my responses o other people.

Like I said, if I see someone I follow using it im just going to unfollow, no need to justify yo reason why you think you can say it. :)

[emmypalmermusic]

It started on reddit with people who knew she was lying and called her shower Harvey cause they knew she was making phone calls to A in the shower. Relax. You’re not running for president on your defense of a term you clearly have no clue about since it wasn’t invented to make fun of a victim but call out a VILLIAN! Which she WAS! Ha peace out.

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

You’re basing this off of one post that you’ve seen on reddit 😂😂😂 love, I’m talking about the posts which are just rude and clearly victim shaming 😂 Do you really think I didn’t know she was a villain 😂😂😂 go and check my blog and you’ll find my theory on Sara not being who she said she is and helping A because I clearly knew.

So peace out yourself as you clearly can’t have an educated discussion. Ever heard of an opinion ? Mine was that it was rude, you don’t have to agree with it and I didn’t say that you couldn’t say it remember 😂 so kindly, fuck off and stop trying to cause trouble 😂

Have a nice day :)

[emmypalmermusic]

You’re the joke. Sara Harvey was NEVER a victim 😂😂😂 no one thought she was! Maybe you’re dumb enough to fall for it but EVERYONE ON REDDIT WHERE THE JOKE STARTED knew she was lying. Sorry you weren’t part of it and take things uber offensively. If she wasn’t sketch and clearly put in the story to be bad it wouldn’t have started. But come on. Like you can’t be that dumb that you believed she was good 😂😂😂 no wonder u liked the finale 😂😂😂

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

😂😂😂😂 did you read my last comment on here 😂😂😂😂😂 I blatantly said I knew she was sketchy from the beginning and had a theory about it which turned out to be right 😂 please read before you call me dumb because you’re the only one coming across that way. At no point did I say that Sara was a victim. I said I didn’t like how people made fun of the fact she showered a lotWHICH IS A COMMON THING THAT ABUSE VICTIMS SUFFER FROM. Meaning that the writers had wrote it in to make the character realistic.

Can’t actually just leave now because you’re being extremely irritating, if you actually read and processed my comment I wouldn’t mind discussing this with you but you’re basically making me repeat EVERYTHING I’ve already said. Just cause something doesn’t offend you doesn’t mean it cant offend someone else, you really need to learn what an opinion is

Do you want me to bullet point it for you in simple sentences so you can process it in small chunks ?

[emmypalmermusic]

I’m not reading ANYTHING you write. Did you not catch on? I don’t listen to people who complain about dumb things like SARA HARVEY the sketchiest chick who cost Emily’s mom thousands in water bills to call cece 😂😂

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

Goodbye 😂 you’re literally trolling now and I respect my followers enough to not have their dashes filled with this post. Have a nice day😊

Note to followers: never argue with someone who doesn’t understand what an opinion is, you can never argue with an idiot, you just can never get through to them !

[midnightmarauderrs]

beeef !!!!!!!!!!! kinda agree with emmy though your taking it abit seriously 

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

This was months ago ? Like last year months ago. Why bring it up ?

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

So I have a theory…

So I wasn’t shocked at the reveal of Mrs D having a twin as I had already theorised that and was definitely expecting it. What did shock me was a thought I had that really made a lot of sense to me. So here goes…

Let me take you back to season 1… Do you remember the story that Ali told Hanna about the two twins in the kitchen ? One twin stabbed her sister after arguing over who gets to play with a doll. If you don’t remember here’s a link to the video of it:

http://youtu.be/QudP3Zup1s8

After seeing Mary Drake’s (Mrs Dilaurentis’ twins) Radley admission form it gave me a thought that tumbled into this giant theory that I now strongly believe. Mary Drakes file says she had violent outbursts where she would lash out and throw things. This made me think of the two twins that argued and one stabbed the other. Maybe, this wasn’t a story after all and what really happened to Mary and was the reason why she was sent to radley ?

My theory is that like the story Ali told Hanna. 25 years ago when Mary Drake was admitted to Radley and Mrs D adopted Charles Mrs Dilaurentis and Mary were arguing, but not over a doll. Over Charles. Mrs D suggested that Mary should check into Radley as she was concerned about her mental health and Charles’ safety. Mary is very angry and sees this as like her sister is trying to take her child away from her. Mary lashes out and stabs her sister ( Mrs Dilaurentis ). Mary is then seen as unstable and dangerous and this is the reason why Mary is then sent to Radley and Mrs D adopts Charles. Because Mary is unstable,Violent and is unfit to look after a child.

This is very messily written as its 3 am here but feel free to leave any criticism or questions if you have any :) I might try rewrite this properly.

Btw I’m back !!

[rapunz-hill]

@crazylittlepieceofsunshine

[crazylittlepieceofsunshine]

@rapunz-hill… This is kindof what I was thinking! I was looking at the twin story differently than this person though. Like, I was thinking this same thing about Mrs. D and Mary, but something different about the twin story. I like this better though.  This show blurs everything together in my mind.  So, at what point would Mary have gotten out of Rosewood? Was she there at all while Charles/Charlotte was? And who was it that killed Mrs. D? (We probably just talked about this, but I’m confused again.) Was it actually Mary that night, still angry about the Charles situation? MY HEAD.

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

Yup ! That’s the confusion I was having ! I was trying to see if there were any clues to say when exactly Charles was admitted to Radley but there aren’t any exact dates floating around anywhere ! It’s just safe to say that Mary was in Radley around the time Charles was about 5 and May or may not have been there when he was admitted there at around 7?

My thoughts are that they may have met in Radley seeing as when Charles became Cece, he took his moms last name (Drake). So they obviously knew about each other ! Just I have no clue whether they met in Radley!

[crazylittlepieceofsunshine]

Very true! She did take Mary’s last name.. Interesting. So either Mrs. D told her about Mary, or she met Mary herself. Any ideas as to why Mary would have told Ali’s husband (can’t think of his name right now) that him getting Ali to admit herself to the hospital proved how much he loved CeCe? Would CeCe have wanted Ali admitted, or is there something else going on there?

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

Elliot Rollins ! The way I interpreted that was he proved how much he loved Cece by marrying her cousin so that he then was able to control the Carissimi group ! I'm not too sure whether my brain is making this up but I think as Ali is admitted to a mental hospital. She is unable to control what goes on with the Carissimi group but as Rollins married Ali. He is now able to control it regardless of what Ali says.

This is what Mary Drake wanted, the right to control Carissimi. For what reason though, I'm not sure

(Sorry if this is messy and doesn't make much sense)

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

So I have a theory…

So I wasn’t shocked at the reveal of Mrs D having a twin as I had already theorised that and was definitely expecting it. What did shock me was a thought I had that really made a lot of sense to me. So here goes…

Let me take you back to season 1… Do you remember the story that Ali told Hanna about the two twins in the kitchen ? One twin stabbed her sister after arguing over who gets to play with a doll. If you don’t remember here’s a link to the video of it:

http://youtu.be/QudP3Zup1s8

After seeing Mary Drake’s (Mrs Dilaurentis’ twins) Radley admission form it gave me a thought that tumbled into this giant theory that I now strongly believe. Mary Drakes file says she had violent outbursts where she would lash out and throw things. This made me think of the two twins that argued and one stabbed the other. Maybe, this wasn’t a story after all and what really happened to Mary and was the reason why she was sent to radley ?

My theory is that like the story Ali told Hanna. 25 years ago when Mary Drake was admitted to Radley and Mrs D adopted Charles Mrs Dilaurentis and Mary were arguing, but not over a doll. Over Charles. Mrs D suggested that Mary should check into Radley as she was concerned about her mental health and Charles’ safety. Mary is very angry and sees this as like her sister is trying to take her child away from her. Mary lashes out and stabs her sister ( Mrs Dilaurentis ). Mary is then seen as unstable and dangerous and this is the reason why Mary is then sent to Radley and Mrs D adopts Charles. Because Mary is unstable,Violent and is unfit to look after a child.

This is very messily written as its 3 am here but feel free to leave any criticism or questions if you have any :) I might try rewrite this properly.

Btw I’m back !!

[ariarose0712-blog]

Thought about something similar, only problem is that they said that she had Charles whilst she was already in Radley. I know lol, I’m trying to theorise at 3am too. 😂😂

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

When did they say that I may have missed it ? I had a look at the ages & according to the websites Charlotte is 30 now. Mary was admitted to Radley 25 years ago which would have made Charlotte/Charles 5 years old at the time.

I’ll have to check again 😂

[prettylittlelosersforever]

Charlotte *should* only be about 8 years older than the girls, because she’s roughly a year older than Jason. No ones ages really match up, though, so I wouldn’t go by that. (Ian, Garrett, Jason, & Melissa all graduated in the same class but according to the wiki they were each 1 year apart in age)

[victoriaispaintingtheroses-deac]

I know someone said that that would make Jason and CeCe the same age.. That still doesn’t explain why when Charlotte was in radley she never saw her mother

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

We don't know whether Charlotte did see her mother in Radley but I believe she did. As the name she chose for herself was "CECE DRAKE" and Drake was Mary, her mothers last name. So she had obviously met her/maybe knew about her

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

So I have a theory…

So I wasn’t shocked at the reveal of Mrs D having a twin as I had already theorised that and was definitely expecting it. What did shock me was a thought I had that really made a lot of sense to me. So here goes…

Let me take you back to season 1… Do you remember the story that Ali told Hanna about the two twins in the kitchen ? One twin stabbed her sister after arguing over who gets to play with a doll. If you don’t remember here’s a link to the video of it:

http://youtu.be/QudP3Zup1s8

After seeing Mary Drake’s (Mrs Dilaurentis’ twins) Radley admission form it gave me a thought that tumbled into this giant theory that I now strongly believe. Mary Drakes file says she had violent outbursts where she would lash out and throw things. This made me think of the two twins that argued and one stabbed the other. Maybe, this wasn’t a story after all and what really happened to Mary and was the reason why she was sent to radley ?

My theory is that like the story Ali told Hanna. 25 years ago when Mary Drake was admitted to Radley and Mrs D adopted Charles Mrs Dilaurentis and Mary were arguing, but not over a doll. Over Charles. Mrs D suggested that Mary should check into Radley as she was concerned about her mental health and Charles’ safety. Mary is very angry and sees this as like her sister is trying to take her child away from her. Mary lashes out and stabs her sister ( Mrs Dilaurentis ). Mary is then seen as unstable and dangerous and this is the reason why Mary is then sent to Radley and Mrs D adopts Charles. Because Mary is unstable,Violent and is unfit to look after a child.

This is very messily written as its 3 am here but feel free to leave any criticism or questions if you have any :) I might try rewrite this properly.

Btw I’m back !!

[rapunz-hill]

@crazylittlepieceofsunshine

[crazylittlepieceofsunshine]

@rapunz-hill… This is kindof what I was thinking! I was looking at the twin story differently than this person though. Like, I was thinking this same thing about Mrs. D and Mary, but something different about the twin story. I like this better though.  This show blurs everything together in my mind.  So, at what point would Mary have gotten out of Rosewood? Was she there at all while Charles/Charlotte was? And who was it that killed Mrs. D? (We probably just talked about this, but I’m confused again.) Was it actually Mary that night, still angry about the Charles situation? MY HEAD.

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

Yup ! That's the confusion I was having ! I was trying to see if there were any clues to say when exactly Charles was admitted to Radley but there aren't any exact dates floating around anywhere ! It's just safe to say that Mary was in Radley around the time Charles was about 5 and May or may not have been there when he was admitted there at around 7?

My thoughts are that they may have met in Radley seeing as when Charles became Cece, he took his moms last name (Drake). So they obviously knew about each other ! Just I have no clue whether they met in Radley!

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

So I have a theory…

So I wasn’t shocked at the reveal of Mrs D having a twin as I had already theorised that and was definitely expecting it. What did shock me was a thought I had that really made a lot of sense to me. So here goes…

Let me take you back to season 1… Do you remember the story that Ali told Hanna about the two twins in the kitchen ? One twin stabbed her sister after arguing over who gets to play with a doll. If you don’t remember here’s a link to the video of it:

http://youtu.be/QudP3Zup1s8

After seeing Mary Drake’s (Mrs Dilaurentis’ twins) Radley admission form it gave me a thought that tumbled into this giant theory that I now strongly believe. Mary Drakes file says she had violent outbursts where she would lash out and throw things. This made me think of the two twins that argued and one stabbed the other. Maybe, this wasn’t a story after all and what really happened to Mary and was the reason why she was sent to radley ?

My theory is that like the story Ali told Hanna. 25 years ago when Mary Drake was admitted to Radley and Mrs D adopted Charles Mrs Dilaurentis and Mary were arguing, but not over a doll. Over Charles. Mrs D suggested that Mary should check into Radley as she was concerned about her mental health and Charles’ safety. Mary is very angry and sees this as like her sister is trying to take her child away from her. Mary lashes out and stabs her sister ( Mrs Dilaurentis ). Mary is then seen as unstable and dangerous and this is the reason why Mary is then sent to Radley and Mrs D adopts Charles. Because Mary is unstable,Violent and is unfit to look after a child.

This is very messily written as its 3 am here but feel free to leave any criticism or questions if you have any :) I might try rewrite this properly.

Btw I’m back !!

[ariarose0712-blog]

Thought about something similar, only problem is that they said that she had Charles whilst she was already in Radley. I know lol, I’m trying to theorise at 3am too. 😂😂

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

When did they say that I may have missed it ? I had a look at the ages & according to the websites Charlotte is 30 now. Mary was admitted to Radley 25 years ago which would have made Charlotte/Charles 5 years old at the time.

I’ll have to check again 😂

[prettylittlelosersforever]

Charlotte *should* only be about 8 years older than the girls, because she’s roughly a year older than Jason. No ones ages really match up, though, so I wouldn’t go by that. (Ian, Garrett, Jason, & Melissa all graduated in the same class but according to the wiki they were each 1 year apart in age)

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

I went on the age according to the wiki which isn’t always accurate but either way really! My main point was that Mrs D and Mary fought over Charles ! Whether he was a baby or a little older. It’s so hard to tell the ages with this show ! Also remember that people can be 2 ages and in the same class!

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

So I have a theory…

So I wasn’t shocked at the reveal of Mrs D having a twin as I had already theorised that and was definitely expecting it. What did shock me was a thought I had that really made a lot of sense to me. So here goes…

Let me take you back to season 1… Do you remember the story that Ali told Hanna about the two twins in the kitchen ? One twin stabbed her sister after arguing over who gets to play with a doll. If you don’t remember here’s a link to the video of it:

http://youtu.be/QudP3Zup1s8

After seeing Mary Drake’s (Mrs Dilaurentis’ twins) Radley admission form it gave me a thought that tumbled into this giant theory that I now strongly believe. Mary Drakes file says she had violent outbursts where she would lash out and throw things. This made me think of the two twins that argued and one stabbed the other. Maybe, this wasn’t a story after all and what really happened to Mary and was the reason why she was sent to radley ?

My theory is that like the story Ali told Hanna. 25 years ago when Mary Drake was admitted to Radley and Mrs D adopted Charles Mrs Dilaurentis and Mary were arguing, but not over a doll. Over Charles. Mrs D suggested that Mary should check into Radley as she was concerned about her mental health and Charles’ safety. Mary is very angry and sees this as like her sister is trying to take her child away from her. Mary lashes out and stabs her sister ( Mrs Dilaurentis ). Mary is then seen as unstable and dangerous and this is the reason why Mary is then sent to Radley and Mrs D adopts Charles. Because Mary is unstable,Violent and is unfit to look after a child.

This is very messily written as its 3 am here but feel free to leave any criticism or questions if you have any :) I might try rewrite this properly.

Btw I’m back !!

[ariarose0712-blog]

Thought about something similar, only problem is that they said that she had Charles whilst she was already in Radley. I know lol, I’m trying to theorise at 3am too. 😂😂

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

When did they say that I may have missed it ? I had a look at the ages & according to the websites Charlotte is 30 now. Mary was admitted to Radley 25 years ago which would have made Charlotte/Charles 5 years old at the time.

I'll have to check again 😂

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

So I have a theory…

So I wasn’t shocked at the reveal of Mrs D having a twin as I had already theorised that and was definitely expecting it. What did shock me was a thought I had that really made a lot of sense to me. So here goes…

Let me take you back to season 1… Do you remember the story that Ali told Hanna about the two twins in the kitchen ? One twin stabbed her sister after arguing over who gets to play with a doll. If you don’t remember here’s a link to the video of it:

http://youtu.be/QudP3Zup1s8

After seeing Mary Drake’s (Mrs Dilaurentis’ twins) Radley admission form it gave me a thought that tumbled into this giant theory that I now strongly believe. Mary Drakes file says she had violent outbursts where she would lash out and throw things. This made me think of the two twins that argued and one stabbed the other. Maybe, this wasn’t a story after all and what really happened to Mary and was the reason why she was sent to radley ?

My theory is that like the story Ali told Hanna. 25 years ago when Mary Drake was admitted to Radley and Mrs D adopted Charles Mrs Dilaurentis and Mary were arguing, but not over a doll. Over Charles. Mrs D suggested that whilst Mary is in Radley she should look after Charles as she doesn't feel he is safe there. Mary is very angry and sees this as like her sister is trying to take her child away from her. Mary lashes out and stabs her sister ( Mrs Dilaurentis ). Mary is then seen as unstable and dangerous and this is the reason why Mary is then sent to Radley and Mrs D adopts Charles. Because Mary is unstable,Violent and is unfit to look after a child.

This is very messily written as its 3 am here but feel free to leave any criticism or questions if you have any :) I might try rewrite this properly.

Btw I’m back !!

Edited: after I messed up a bit

[astragarden]

It's kind of funny

CeCe wanted to kill Bethany, and Mona wanted to kill Ali. But then CeCe killed Ali, and Mona killed Bethany. But actually, CeCe didn’t really kill Ali, and Mona didn’t really kill Bethany.

And then Melissa killed Bethany for real after thinking she was a dead Ali.

[tv-series-obsessed]

Mind blown

[plllogic-blog]

So A very intresting question is then Why are the liars involved at all?

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

I'm back bitches -A

So, I left this page for a while whilst PLL went on break as a thought it would be a good idea to come back to the show with a fresh start and new perspective. I will officially be back active again when the show airs !

[eleanor-shellstrop-anagonye]

How Charles DiLaurentis fucked up

[summyg]

PLL Finale 25 Biggest Plot Holes

CeCe was Prom Queen for a high school she never attended. Makes sense?

Aria met CeCe’s college roommate, who told her that CeCe hated Ali because Ali got her kicked out of UPenn. She never lived on campus, so how did she have roommates?

 Cece said that Wilden changed the report for Marion’s death to protect her, but if we’re to trust the finale’s version of her death, that can’t be possible. Wilden went to high school with Melissa, which would mean that Wilden was much too young at the time to be a cop.

Speaking of Marion’s death: Toby’s mom died when the Liars were in 8th grade, per “The First Secret.” How could CeCe still have been a child when Bethany pushed Marion off the roof?

Why were patients at a mental institution allowed on an unsecured roof completely unsupervised?

Radley staff thought Charlotte guilty of killing Marion. She was diagnosed with intermittent explosive disorder. Why would Radley allow someone they deemed a public threat permission to leave the facility unattended?

Wren gave CeCe Drake a visitor’s pass for Radley. If she was a patient there, why would she need a pass to get in?

Mona said that in exchange for the game, Big A (CeCe) offered her a way in and out of Radley. CeCe said Mona knew how to get in and out of Radley, so she started playing the game with her so she’d be able to as well. Which is it?

In a flashback, Mrs. D recieved a call from Radley telling her that Ali was there, and when she went to go pick her up, it was CeCe pretending to be Ali. Mrs. D was pissed. Why would Radley have called Mrs. D to tell her that her daughter who WAS A PATIENT at Radley.. was at Radley?

The morning after “That Night,” CeCe was taken back to Radley. Sara Harvey disappeared the next day. She couldn’t have kidnapped her and held her hostage. So how did they meet? Where was Sara Harvey and what was she doing during the year that CeCe was locked up in Radley all alone and unable to escape?

How did Mona only just realize she killed Bethany and not Ali, when she herself picked Ali up that night and helped her leave Rosewood?

How were both Bethany and Alison dressed head to toe in the same exact clothes, even jewelry, completely coincidentally?

Why did Jason see CeCe in Ali’s shirt that night? “Maybe it was Bethany” doesn’t make sense, because he saw “CeCe” with Melissa. Why would Bethany have been talking to Melissa?

The two dresses in Ali’s flashback were the same size. Why would they be if one was meant for Cece and one for Ali, and they’re supposed to be 8 years apart?

How did CeCe, while a patient at Radley, open a clothing store?

How did “A” get vials of blood into Spencer’s bag in England when, at the same time back in the States, “A” was creeping on Cyrus in the hospital? Was one of these people Sara Harvey? Just, wtf.

Where did Cece get her money? Yes, she invested in the stock market, but where did her initial funds to invest come from? How did she learn how to play stocks in Radley? She’s a full-blooded DiLaurentis, no Hastings involved, so why is she such an unbelievable genius?

Continuing that thought.. How did CeCe have such extensive medical knowledge and access to a documented cadaver from a medical school? How did she become an expert at computers and programming? All while living in Radley?

“Charles” was taller than Spencer in The Dollhouse. CeCe is much shorter. Platform boots?

If A is Charlotte, and Charlotte is Cece, why would she act like a man in the dollhouse after fighting her whole life to transition and be accepted as her true gender (female)?

Why was CeCe Drake on the A’s payroll if she WAS A?

A once saw “CeCe Drake” on a hotel guest list and dialed 911. Why would CeCe call the police on herself?

If all CeCe wanted was to be close to her little sister, didn’t she achieve that a long time ago? Why did she need to obtain Ali “dolls?” Alison would have hung out with her on her own accord - they were best friends.

CeCe supposedly loves Ali and Jessica. So why send Ali the bragging, “I buried your mother like I watched her bury you?” text. Why torture Ali ever at all? Just because it was fun?

Why did Sara Harvey, who never met any of the PLLs and wasn’t even from the same town, randomly agree to a criminal life devoted to their demise? To this end.. Why did CeCe?

AND MY PERSONAL TOP 10 UNANSWERED QUESTIONS:

What was the point of the NAT club?

What’s the deal with the twin ghost that visited Ashley?

Tippi?

Who was Beach Hottie?

What was Melissa’s involvement the night of the lodge fire?

What was going on with Wren in S3/4? Who was he on the phone with? WHY?

Why was Sydney dressed like Jenna? What was up with Jenna in general?

What was Noel Kahn’s secret?

Alison: “The four of you remember more about that night then you think.” Why did she say this when they knew nothing and ultimately had no tie to anything regarding “That Night?”

What’s the deal with Cyrus and that whole saga?

BONUS: WHAT ABOUT THE A FLASH MOB IN NEW YORK?

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

Unfollowing if you call her Shower Harvey

If I see anyone on my dashboard refer to Sara Harvey as “Shower Harvey” I am immediately going to unfollow you. No matter how long we have been mutuals,how good your blog is, or what a nice person you are. I’m sick of it. This is what my rant is about

I’m sorry if you are annoyed or confused by me doing this but it’s annoyed me for a long time.

[emmypalmermusic]

Why would this of all things on PLL annoy you? Haha seems kinda ridiculous in light of everything else on that show.

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

I was someone who was fine with the episode as I already theorised it would happen that way and wasn’t actually mad about it. Yeah we didn’t get much answers and it was confusing but what do you expect. I excepted it, writings gone down hill, it’s all about money now. Did you really think we’d get all the answers in 40 minutes. ?

The reason I’m unfollowing people is FAR from ridiculous, referring to her as shower Harvey is literally a fucking joke that was made about her behaviour which is NORMAL FOR A SURVIVOR OF SUCH TRAUMA. Granted? She was helping Cece and that may have been faked but did we know that before the finale episode ? No! Sara’s character was given that specific thing for a reason, to make her behaviour seem more realistic and she was made fun of for it. She’s been called this for weeks, there are multiple jokes about it and I honestly do not find them funny because they’re based off of an aspect of mental illness and made into such a joke it’s vile.

You can feel happy making fun of someone who wants to shower all the time because of what she’s been through and them just wanting to be clean, but from having friends who have suffered abuse and having personal experience myself. I find it repulsive which is why I won’t be arguing with anyone just unfollowing.

Finale ( semi ridiculous for fans who’s theories weren’t the correct ones. Wren didn’t make sense to be Charles, at all. Sorry )

Shower Harvey - joke based on real behaviour of abuse survivors ( far from ridiculous )

[emmypalmermusic]

I think everybody knew she was sketchy and not who she said she was so I have no problem with shower Harvey. Cause she was a liar like I PREDICTED haha so Ya turns out the showers were exactly when she would call Cece. It wasn’t a shocker, nobody watching the show believed her.

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

Shower Harvey has nothing to do with her being sketchy, I knew she was sketchy. I had a whole theory about her being sketchy and not being who she said she was so yeah. I know that she’s sketchy, I was aware she was sketchy as soon as she was introduced but that doesn’t mean that calling her shower Harvey is okay. I’ve explained exactly why I didn’t like the name so you don’t need to say that it has to do with her being sketchy because I said that was irrelevant. If you thought she was sketchy. Call her sketch Sara. Showering has nothing to do with her being sketchy.

I’ve said sketchy way too many times for this post anyway and if you really want know why I don’t like it have a look at my responses o other people.

Like I said, if I see someone I follow using it im just going to unfollow, no need to justify yo reason why you think you can say it. :)

[emmypalmermusic]

It started on reddit with people who knew she was lying and called her shower Harvey cause they knew she was making phone calls to A in the shower. Relax. You’re not running for president on your defense of a term you clearly have no clue about since it wasn’t invented to make fun of a victim but call out a VILLIAN! Which she WAS! Ha peace out.

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

You’re basing this off of one post that you’ve seen on reddit 😂😂😂 love, I’m talking about the posts which are just rude and clearly victim shaming 😂 Do you really think I didn’t know she was a villain 😂😂😂 go and check my blog and you’ll find my theory on Sara not being who she said she is and helping A because I clearly knew.

So peace out yourself as you clearly can’t have an educated discussion. Ever heard of an opinion ? Mine was that it was rude, you don’t have to agree with it and I didn’t say that you couldn’t say it remember 😂 so kindly, fuck off and stop trying to cause trouble 😂

Have a nice day :)

[emmypalmermusic]

You’re the joke. Sara Harvey was NEVER a victim 😂😂😂 no one thought she was! Maybe you’re dumb enough to fall for it but EVERYONE ON REDDIT WHERE THE JOKE STARTED knew she was lying. Sorry you weren’t part of it and take things uber offensively. If she wasn’t sketch and clearly put in the story to be bad it wouldn’t have started. But come on. Like you can’t be that dumb that you believed she was good 😂😂😂 no wonder u liked the finale 😂😂😂

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

😂😂😂😂 did you read my last comment on here 😂😂😂😂😂 I blatantly said I knew she was sketchy from the beginning and had a theory about it which turned out to be right 😂 please read before you call me dumb because you’re the only one coming across that way. At no point did I say that Sara was a victim. I said I didn’t like how people made fun of the fact she showered a lotWHICH IS A COMMON THING THAT ABUSE VICTIMS SUFFER FROM. Meaning that the writers had wrote it in to make the character realistic.

Can’t actually just leave now because you’re being extremely irritating, if you actually read and processed my comment I wouldn’t mind discussing this with you but you’re basically making me repeat EVERYTHING I’ve already said. Just cause something doesn’t offend you doesn’t mean it cant offend someone else, you really need to learn what an opinion is

Do you want me to bullet point it for you in simple sentences so you can process it in small chunks ?

[emmypalmermusic]

I’m not reading ANYTHING you write. Did you not catch on? I don’t listen to people who complain about dumb things like SARA HARVEY the sketchiest chick who cost Emily’s mom thousands in water bills to call cece 😂😂

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

Goodbye 😂 you're literally trolling now and I respect my followers enough to not have their dashes filled with this post. Have a nice day😊

Note to followers: never argue with someone who doesn't understand what an opinion is, you can never argue with an idiot, you just can never get through to them !

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

Unfollowing if you call her Shower Harvey

If I see anyone on my dashboard refer to Sara Harvey as “Shower Harvey” I am immediately going to unfollow you. No matter how long we have been mutuals,how good your blog is, or what a nice person you are. I’m sick of it. This is what my rant is about

I’m sorry if you are annoyed or confused by me doing this but it’s annoyed me for a long time.

[emmypalmermusic]

Why would this of all things on PLL annoy you? Haha seems kinda ridiculous in light of everything else on that show.

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

I was someone who was fine with the episode as I already theorised it would happen that way and wasn’t actually mad about it. Yeah we didn’t get much answers and it was confusing but what do you expect. I excepted it, writings gone down hill, it’s all about money now. Did you really think we’d get all the answers in 40 minutes. ?

The reason I’m unfollowing people is FAR from ridiculous, referring to her as shower Harvey is literally a fucking joke that was made about her behaviour which is NORMAL FOR A SURVIVOR OF SUCH TRAUMA. Granted? She was helping Cece and that may have been faked but did we know that before the finale episode ? No! Sara’s character was given that specific thing for a reason, to make her behaviour seem more realistic and she was made fun of for it. She’s been called this for weeks, there are multiple jokes about it and I honestly do not find them funny because they’re based off of an aspect of mental illness and made into such a joke it’s vile.

You can feel happy making fun of someone who wants to shower all the time because of what she’s been through and them just wanting to be clean, but from having friends who have suffered abuse and having personal experience myself. I find it repulsive which is why I won’t be arguing with anyone just unfollowing.

Finale ( semi ridiculous for fans who’s theories weren’t the correct ones. Wren didn’t make sense to be Charles, at all. Sorry )

Shower Harvey - joke based on real behaviour of abuse survivors ( far from ridiculous )

[emmypalmermusic]

I think everybody knew she was sketchy and not who she said she was so I have no problem with shower Harvey. Cause she was a liar like I PREDICTED haha so Ya turns out the showers were exactly when she would call Cece. It wasn’t a shocker, nobody watching the show believed her.

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

Shower Harvey has nothing to do with her being sketchy, I knew she was sketchy. I had a whole theory about her being sketchy and not being who she said she was so yeah. I know that she’s sketchy, I was aware she was sketchy as soon as she was introduced but that doesn’t mean that calling her shower Harvey is okay. I’ve explained exactly why I didn’t like the name so you don’t need to say that it has to do with her being sketchy because I said that was irrelevant. If you thought she was sketchy. Call her sketch Sara. Showering has nothing to do with her being sketchy.

I’ve said sketchy way too many times for this post anyway and if you really want know why I don’t like it have a look at my responses o other people.

Like I said, if I see someone I follow using it im just going to unfollow, no need to justify yo reason why you think you can say it. :)

[emmypalmermusic]

It started on reddit with people who knew she was lying and called her shower Harvey cause they knew she was making phone calls to A in the shower. Relax. You’re not running for president on your defense of a term you clearly have no clue about since it wasn’t invented to make fun of a victim but call out a VILLIAN! Which she WAS! Ha peace out.

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

You’re basing this off of one post that you’ve seen on reddit 😂😂😂 love, I’m talking about the posts which are just rude and clearly victim shaming 😂 Do you really think I didn’t know she was a villain 😂😂😂 go and check my blog and you’ll find my theory on Sara not being who she said she is and helping A because I clearly knew.

So peace out yourself as you clearly can’t have an educated discussion. Ever heard of an opinion ? Mine was that it was rude, you don’t have to agree with it and I didn’t say that you couldn’t say it remember 😂 so kindly, fuck off and stop trying to cause trouble 😂

Have a nice day :)

[emmypalmermusic]

You’re the joke. Sara Harvey was NEVER a victim 😂😂😂 no one thought she was! Maybe you’re dumb enough to fall for it but EVERYONE ON REDDIT WHERE THE JOKE STARTED knew she was lying. Sorry you weren’t part of it and take things uber offensively. If she wasn’t sketch and clearly put in the story to be bad it wouldn’t have started. But come on. Like you can’t be that dumb that you believed she was good 😂😂😂 no wonder u liked the finale 😂😂😂

[prettyliarswithdirtysecrets]

😂😂😂😂 did you read my last comment on here 😂😂😂😂😂 I blatantly said I knew she was sketchy from the beginning and had a theory about it which turned out to be right 😂 please read before you call me dumb because you're the only one coming across that way. At no point did I say that Sara was a victim. I said I didn't like how people made fun of the fact she showered a lotWHICH IS A COMMON THING THAT ABUSE VICTIMS SUFFER FROM. Meaning that the writers had wrote it in to make the character realistic.

Can't actually just leave now because you're being extremely irritating, if you actually read and processed my comment I wouldn't mind discussing this with you but you're basically making me repeat EVERYTHING I've already said. Just cause something doesn't offend you doesn't mean it cant offend someone else, you really need to learn what an opinion is

Do you want me to bullet point it for you in simple sentences so you can process it in small chunks ?