saw some tweets calling the trio: jeonghan, woozi, seungkwan as jellybearz (젤리곰즈)
while shua and seungkwan are called mandarinz (만다린즈) bc shua is orange and seungkwan is tangerine then add dino and they're called citrusz (시트러스즈) bc dino is lemon
this is just so cute actually. i love it when fans do this for real.
it feels only yesterday seunhkwan was struggling to remember mandarinz (만다린즈) is what him and shua is called in caratland. saying "booshu" "bbooshu" so adorably
and now they are officially using mandarinz for them both. im gonna cryyy
now they just need to pull dino and officially use citrusz
the joke on the fact that dino, as pi cheolin, performed with booseoksoon on an award show is that in going seventeen, pi cheolin, is officially translated as "fea turin" as in featuring. its literally BOOSEOKSOON FEATURING FEA TURIN!!!
thinking about how LALALI is one letter different from the word NALLARI which means delinquent or is loosely equivalent to punk/hooligan/thug and how hiphop unit would precede LALALI with a word that ends with "N" so they'd actually end up pronouncing NALLARI
버는 LALALI (beoneun lalali) or 난 LALALI (nan lalali) or how wonwoo's line 난 LALALI 날라다님 (nan lalali nalladanim) came close to actually pronouncing nallari from nalladanim
also they never sing it as LALALI with an "L" beginning sound, it's always sound "NALLARI" and even in the times the lyrics is written as LALALI only, their pronunciation in the song is vague, not quite and "L" sound or an "N" sound. just somewhere in between.
(a more complex explanation/meaning of nallari from form of therapy pd here)
i think carats should also make a post go viral here in tumblr about how mingyu doesnt like, hates, and uncomfy with the calypso scene in lalali mv.
cheol said he has a behind video of filming that scene and hoshi teased by saying to upload it but mingyu said "no"
wonwoo and dokyeom reiterated by saying "mingyu doesnt like that (scene)" "mingyu doesnt want that scene to be included"
mingyu then clearly said "i really, really hate it" (his exact words are "정말 정말 싫긴했어 솔직히" to translate word per word "really, really, [i] hated [it], honestly")
watched 침착맨's review of seventeen's concert and i really love the part where he said the member's always say "carats! carats!" throughout the concert that he felt brainwashed into using "carats" when talking about seventeen's fans. because usually other celebrities/people in the industry who aren't familiar with a group's fan name would simply use "fan (팬 여러분)" but 침착맨 (calm down man) got too used in hearing the boys say "carats"
its just a small show of how the members really do love carats that even other celebrities get so familiar in calling us with our fandom name instead of just "fans"
badly need wonu to ask/invite keria to his game boi live. they can play LoL, keria teaching wonu. they can play other games like the ones wonu played on previous lives, i hope to see keria play and enjoy games too. i enjoy the bits and short plays he does on his solo lives too. itd just be so adorable to watch them two play and enjoy video games too!
Classical trained (college) musician here to roast the ever loving fuck out of SEVENTlEEN defiling classical instruments. Let's begin.
JIHOON THE SOLOIST:
It is extremely obvious to everyone (hopefully) that he's not actually playing. His right hand never changes notes, his wrist is completely collapsed, and his hand is angled in a very directionally odd, extremely stiff position. Looking at this, he seems to have no idea where his 1st through 4th fingers should lie. His bow is slightly above the finger board, aka where you PLUCK using your FINGERS, which is not where it should be to get the sound you're listening to, and his bow grip is not the worst I've seen, but his pinky is straight and not on the bow, meaning he will likely be stiff and have no control. I can't see if his hand was too high or low on the bow from this specific screenshot, but I'm too lazy to check further for risk of having another stroke. Anyways, what I do remember is most of the notes are on the higher two strings, A and E, and he is continuously changing strings all the way down to G, the lowest string, while we hear high notes in the recording. Overall, this is a complete hot mess. Elementary schoolers can hold and fake playing a violin better than this. 2/10.
Here's Hilary Hahn as an example of how violin soloists should look while playing. Notice the difference in how she holds the bow, where the bow is hitting the strings, and her left wrist not resting on the violin itself (aka not collapsed), but rather is in a place that would allow her to actually play notes and shift up and down the string significantly better.
MAESTRO ENSEMBLE:
When playing in an ensemble, instruments are not randomly assorted like this, they're supposed to be layered by how much they can project (aka how loud they are), which is why the strings are usually in front, as they're much quieter than the VERY LOUD PERCUSSIONIST, as well as grouped with the same instruments. SO WHY IS WONWOO IN THE FRONT?! WHY IS JEONGHAN SO FAR REMOVED FROM THE OTHER TWO VIOLINISTS?! Jeonghan should be in the front, where his playing can be heard, Mingyu somewhere in the middle, and Wonwoo should be in the back next to Jun, the other percussionist (yes, cymbals by themselves are also percussion, as are triangles and xylophones). As I'm not super familiar with clarinet or drums, I cannot rip into Mingyu and Wonwoo the same way I can Jeonghan, so I will simply target him for giving me an ulcer. His bow grip is literally a fist, his bow is completely crooked, his right wrist is collapsed and his fingers are too close together. I'm also 90% sure he doesn't have a chin rest. Come to think of it, I don't think Woozi had one before either and that's just terrible posture. (Once again, you can look at Hilary Hahn, above, for comparisons.)
Seungkwan just hurts my entire soul here and I forced my friend to pause on it from sheer disbelief. Violins are only ever played on your left shoulder with a right handed bias, whether you yourself are right handed or not. Seungkwan's violin is on his right shoulder making him look straight out of a piss poor stock image. He's playing on the wrong side of the bridge, which will only ever sound screechy because you're not supposed to play there ever, his first finger has been separated from the rest of his hand, making playing notes other than open strings impossible, and his bow grip is the worst of the violinists so far. Hoshi and Minghao have their fingers on multiple strings at once, which would sound terrible when you're not trained to play chords, their hands look very stiff which would be terrible for vibrato, and their bows are on the finger board, which, again, are where they shouldn't be. I can't see Minghao's bow grip, but Hoshi's bow grip is, I think, the worst bow grip of all the string players I can see. He's holding it how first graders attempt to fist a pencil when writing their name.
Now here, we get back into the organization of the ensemble members. But first, I would like to point out that I've asked all of my classically trained roommates (3) what Dino is playing and none of us can figure it out. What we can figure out, however, is that Vernon is playing a flute and, as one of my roommates was a flutist, can confirm he is playing it backwards and rather than the more common incorrect posture of holding the flute too high, which typically gets corrected when actually playing, he is angling it towards the ground. They have no idea how one would even begin to play it the way he's holding it and got so passionate they demonstrated it to me on a pen.
So on their organization, as I touched on earlier, instruments are mainly sorted by their projection (general volume) and grouped by shared instrument. They're assigned "first" and "second" typically based on their proficency in their instrument, with "first" often being the "soloist" if the piece requires it. I've included a helpful chart to demonstrate how this would possibly work out in an actual ensemble based on their instruments (minus Dino as I cannot tell what he is playing).
Key: WZ (Woozi) -> presented as main violinist / soloist, JH (Jeonghan) -> he held the violin the right way, SK (Seungkwan) -> he held the violin the wrong way, VN (Vernon) -> flute and clarinet can most likely be interchanged, but I based this on how my university orchestra is set up, MG (Mingyu), HS (Hoshi) -> this is an assumption, but because his bow grip is so terrible, I wanted to hope Minghao had a better bow grip than him, MH (Minghao), JN (Jun) -> Cymbals are usually not placed in the center as they're generally not the main percussion instrument, JS (Joshua) -> his drum is less bulky, therefore placing him in the middle is more likely than having a bulky drum in the middle, WW (Wonwoo) -> he has a bulky drum, therefore him being on the side is more likely for the percussion section, DK (Dokyeom) -> the conductor should be a lot closer than he is in their ensemble, but far enough away that all players can see the conductor to be able to properly keep time as well as watch for any artistic expressions being encouraged.
Additionally, I don't think I need to point this out, but Dokyeom's posture and conducting are just not right. He's also extremely far from the ensemble and should not be that far away as he needs to be able to cue entrances, influence dynamics and musicality, etc. It is very hard to target a section from that far away.
Overall, I'd give this ensemble a 1/10. I gave them a point to be nice, but it honestly deserves a 0/10.
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