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I guess it's okay to threaten to sodomize gay people now? 🤷♂️ Inclusionists sure don't seem to mind sexual violence when it's coming from them.
Kill it with fire.
The LGBTQIA+ community isn’t just one community with all members being welcome in all spaces. It’s an alliance between several communities. There are trans-specific spaces, gay-specific spaces, bi-specific spaces, lesbian-specific spaces and any number of combination between them. Aces being LGBTQIA+ does not mean that there can’t or shouldn’t be spaces just for trans people and/or people who experience same/similar gender attraction. There can be ace inclusive and ace exclusive spaces without aces being kicked out of the alliance of communities that is LGBTQIA+
Homophobia and transphobia are historically linked and intertwined bodies of oppression, and the history of the gay lesbian bisexual and transgender communities are likewise intertwined and overlapping.
Asexuality has nothing to do with our political struggle or history. LGBT people can be ace but asexuality is not LGBT and cishets who are ace can fuck off.
i used to identify as ace and i can tell u that people definitely get shit on for being ace!! so stop acting like fricking gatekeepers. also, the stonewall inn has an ace flag outside so… literally shut up with this nonsense.
this blog welcomes ace people and u will never see me posting ace hate.
getting shit on apparently makes u oppressed and lgbt y’all !! ur local cis demi-sappio-heterosexual heteroromantic dude that got called an “douche” last week is systemically oppressed and needs equal access to resources and support groups as the rest of the lgbt community !
Lol I'm at Stonewall right now and there's one napkin sized ace flag that they put up because it came in the set.
But now I'm gonna work on getting it taken down lol, guess it's time to discourse with the staff.
More Huffpost cringe.
ok but maybe??? not every rainbow??? is automatically gay???? like please just let people enjoy refractions of light without being like “ITS GAY” please??
The rainbow was given religious significance long before it was turned into a rallying symbol. Can we at least have that?
ok but maybe??? not every rainbow??? is automatically gay???? like please just let people enjoy refractions of light without being like “ITS GAY” please??
shut the hell your mouth every rainbow is gay thanks
Wow imagine being this wrong.
*rubs my gay hands all over every rainbow*
it explains everything
i knew they were white as soon as i saw the post. imagine telling trans ppl that they dont belong in the lgbt community when trans women of color (especially black trans women) literally made it lmao fuck
this idiot be actin like trans people cant be transphobic while simultaneously refusing to read into lgbt history and theyre acting like being trans is completely disconnected from sexuality when in fact both homophobia and transphobia are derived from inherent gender nonconformity and deviation from gender roles,,, like why cant they just admit theyre allergic to logic and reasoning and dont care at all about twoc or lgbt history
Listen I know you all mean well, but TWOC didn’t “invent/make the LGBT community” and this performative revisionism does nothing to honor their actual contributions.
trans women of color did make the lgbt community tho. so…
I mean feel free to look into anywhere between the end of the 19th century and June 28'th 1969. There’s alot of stuff in there.
ok but ur deflecting. twoc laid down the foundation of the community we know today, the lgbt community. you can focus on older stuff all you want but the topic is the lgbt community. you can make your own post, tysm!
The older stuff doesn't exist in a vacuum separate from the newer stuff; and the "LGBT community" ie the people sitting in the bar that night, had already found each other post-WWII.
But w/e do as you will.
all im saying is the idea of monosexuality is heavily reliant on notions of the legitimacy of conditioned perceptions of gender and as we reject our conditioning we must admit that sexuality is much stranger than monosexuality naturally permits
God I just really can’t wait until you very very painfully die
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well this is fucking evil
Wowwwww...
it explains everything
i knew they were white as soon as i saw the post. imagine telling trans ppl that they dont belong in the lgbt community when trans women of color (especially black trans women) literally made it lmao fuck
this idiot be actin like trans people cant be transphobic while simultaneously refusing to read into lgbt history and theyre acting like being trans is completely disconnected from sexuality when in fact both homophobia and transphobia are derived from inherent gender nonconformity and deviation from gender roles,,, like why cant they just admit theyre allergic to logic and reasoning and dont care at all about twoc or lgbt history
Listen I know you all mean well, but TWOC didn’t “invent/make the LGBT community” and this performative revisionism does nothing to honor their actual contributions.
Our modern community and radical liberation are owed to the brave people of color especially trans women of color who led the Stonewall riot. We know that the LGBT Community was not magically formed overnight but we do know that white queers seldom contributed anything revolutionary! And even took credit for the the work of queer poc.
No we don't know that, because it's objectively untrue lol, white LGBT people contributed alot to both the movement and the culture. So did LGBT PoC, it's not a contest.
Stonewall *was* a keystone moment; Martha and Sylvia deserve full credit for their roll in the Stonewall uprising and the leadership they demonstrated afterwards in the NYC community.
But that was not the only time we rioted against the police. This is my problem with discussions of Stonewall on this site. People reduce centuries of history to a couple of days, and furthermore for most people the mythos of that night has far departed away from the reality of what actually took place.
it explains everything
i knew they were white as soon as i saw the post. imagine telling trans ppl that they dont belong in the lgbt community when trans women of color (especially black trans women) literally made it lmao fuck
this idiot be actin like trans people cant be transphobic while simultaneously refusing to read into lgbt history and theyre acting like being trans is completely disconnected from sexuality when in fact both homophobia and transphobia are derived from inherent gender nonconformity and deviation from gender roles,,, like why cant they just admit theyre allergic to logic and reasoning and dont care at all about twoc or lgbt history
Listen I know you all mean well, but TWOC didn’t “invent/make the LGBT community” and this performative revisionism does nothing to honor their actual contributions.
trans women of color did make the lgbt community tho. so…
I mean feel free to look into anywhere between the end of the 19th century and June 28'th 1969. There's alot of stuff in there.
it explains everything
i knew they were white as soon as i saw the post. imagine telling trans ppl that they dont belong in the lgbt community when trans women of color (especially black trans women) literally made it lmao fuck
this idiot be actin like trans people cant be transphobic while simultaneously refusing to read into lgbt history and theyre acting like being trans is completely disconnected from sexuality when in fact both homophobia and transphobia are derived from inherent gender nonconformity and deviation from gender roles,,, like why cant they just admit theyre allergic to logic and reasoning and dont care at all about twoc or lgbt history
Listen I know you all mean well, but TWOC didn't "invent/make the LGBT community" and this performative revisionism does nothing to honor their actual contributions.
Queers hanging out in public were once considered a staple of West Village street culture. Yet within the climate of the Giuliani/Bloomberg “quality of life” crusade, the presence of gender insubordinate young Black and Latino queer youth, as opposed to white men with moustaches, is often viewed as a problem. […] The crackdown is part of a campaign designed to privatize, sanitize, and control public spaces such as the piers throughout New York City. It began in 1994 as a cornerstone of Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s pledge to clean up New York City. Existing “quality of life” legislation falls under Article 240, Title N, Offenses Against Public Order, Public Sensibilities, and the Right to Privacy. Such “offenses” include “rioting, unlawful assembly, criminal anarchy, disorderly conduct, harassment, loitering, public intoxication, and criminal nuisance in a public space” (McClean, 2002). [… In 1995] the New York City Council passed a zoning law intended to restrict and shut down adult-use spaces such as strip clubs, bookstores, video stores, and movie houses. Mayor Giuliani hoped to shut down almost every adult business that dealt with sexual materials or entertainment. When quasi-private interior spaces targeted by the zoning law were shut down, people with nowhere else to go moved outside. But visible signs of public sexual culture were further targeted with the police carrying out undercover sting operations, resulting in stepped-up arrests of men charged with indecent exposure, soliciting sex, and other “lewd” acts. Some were based on entrapment, while others were wrongful arrests. During one three-day sting by the Port Authority police in 1997, ninety men were arrested in the men’s bathroom in the PATH station concourse of the World Trade Center (Schindler, 1997). Adonis elaborated: “If two heterosexuals were in the park making out and the police walked by, they wouldn’t say anything. If two homosexuals were doing things, they would say something.” Many of the “quality of life” initiatives appeared to specifically target queers. Selective enforcement of a Prohibition-era cabaret law, zoning ordinances, a ban on dancing, and fire codes were used to produce a constant flow of legal assaults narrowing the types of clubs and bars functioning in Manhattan. Before summer of 1997 some seventeen gay businesses, nine theaters, and eight clubs—including five in close proximity on Fourteenth Street—were closed for violations of the state health code banning oral, anal, or vaginal sex on business premises. That summer, fifty queer businesses faced some fourteen hundred inspections (Schindler, 1997). Many clubs could not endure the legal barrage and were forced to close their doors. One such space was the Two Potato, a bar at the corner of Christopher and Greenwich Streets, close to the piers. […] L.P. and several others I interviewed recalled the Two Potato as a “legendary” gathering place for queer and transgender people of color. Like the West Village in general, the Two Potato provided a refuge when the AIDS epidemic hit. “At night people could spread out to Fourteenth Street and over to Two Potato on the water and just drink and wild out and have sex, and feel like we were still normal,” L.P. recalled. Yet the feeling of safety engendered within the queer spaces of the West Village was placed in jeopardy by phobias accompanying the epidemic. As L.P. explained, “We’d have to do a lot of fighting because there was a lot of prejudice.” The pattern is simple enough. Moral guardians use fears about the AIDS crisis to justify restricting access to spaces such as the piers and Two Potato, supposedly in the name of community health and “the children.” What unfolds is a general “not in my backyard” thinking stirred up by the “quality of life” campaign. The result is simple. “He [Giuliani] used the excuse of AIDS. He was saying that [public sex] was a way to spread the virus, but responsible adults who knew about it used condoms. They were consenting adults,” Adonis explained. […] Yet as the AIDS era wore on, anxieties about the epidemic coincided with countless other cultural phobias and inequalities. L.P. explained that just getting off the train at Fourteenth Street could be an ordeal. “If you got off the train and you looked gay, you might get beat up by a group of kids. ‘Faggot, we don’t want you in New York.’ And the police were no help. The cops would stand there and watch because they were in agreement that this was the gay man’s disease and that they didn’t want to get any bodily fluids on them or get involved. Let the faggot get what he deserves.” For L.P., navigating from the Bronx to the Village “was like going through a gauntlet.” Between the antivagrancy laws, a social purity crusade described as a “quality of life” campaign, and AIDS hysteria, L.P.—like many other queer youth—engaged in a struggle against what amounted to a panic over queer space. […] In August 2001, after years of “quality of life” complaints, the Two Potato’s liquor license came up for review prior to renewal, and the bar was closed (McLean, 2002). For L.P. and countless others, the impact of the club’s closure and the subsequent erection of fences at the piers was immediate. “It made it very hard for us to function,” L.P. recalled. “You couldn’t hang out by the water anymore. They were doing construction on the highway so you couldn’t really go down there.” […] Sylvia Rivera struggled for over thirty years to force the city to accept and protect the right of transgender people to walk or work in public space. In many ways, the youth who continue to struggle for queer spaces are working from the same vantage point. Queer space is about creating room for the spectacle of difference as opposed to assimilating sameness. As long as autonomous zones pop up, the possibility remains.
Benjamin Shepard, “Sylvia and Sylvia’s Children: A Battle for a Queer Public Space,” in That’s Revolting!: Queer Strategies for Resisting Assimilation (2008), ed. Mattilda Bernstein Sycamore
some context people don’t realize is their inheritance when they panic over lgbt sexuality
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They are still targeting gay men at the Port Authority, the NYPD is being sued over it right now.
a year and a half later, still sitting here waiting for an explanation THAT MAKES SENSE about how aroaces benefit from homophobia and how we’re straight. Because if everyone who’s not openly gay benefits from homophobia, then straight trans people benefit from homophobia. Bi people benefit from homophobia. Closeted gay people benefit from homophobia.
What the fuck kind of reasoning is that. Ah, I know I won’t receive any kind of acknowledgement, because they know I’m right and just enjoy circlejerking too much lol.
The fact that you think closeted gay people are comparable to aroace people just goes to show that you really don't understand what it's like to be LGBT at all.
Conversion therapy for asexuality is still legal in the US and actively practiced, which includes the prescription of drugs to try to "fix" us. But pfff of course there isn't any kind of oppression by heterosexism. This is all an act to get attention. Why would we ever need a community that offers us support and others education?
source?
The only articles discussing the laws are all heavily biased since, sadly, virtually the only people that care are a few asexual activists, so here’s an article that’s at least supposed to be peer reviewed:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/magnetic-partners/201406/asexuality?amp
The key info is right at the top; it’s very common for sex therapists to offer treatment for asexuality as a disorder. Wikipedia probably offers the most clinical break down of this problem, albeit briefly:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypoactive_sexual_desire_disorder
For the most part, the problem is observable by its absence of address, which makes disseminating info a challenge. Here’s the list of updates to the Dsm 5, which is used by therapists. Requests to better address asexuality in the guide were completely ignored, the focus being the (needed) addition of ways to address feminine sexuality:
https://www.omicsonline.org/dsm-5-changes-in-diagnostic-criteria-of-sexual-dysfunctions-2161-038X.1000122.php?aid=18508
None of these proved your claims, in fact, they did the exact opposite.
While asexuality and hypoactive sexual desire disorder ARE similar, HSDD requires the affected person to be DISTRESSED by their symptoms. Also, treatment for HSDD is not mandatory and can not be forced upon people. The treatment for HSDD is something that must be sought out by a patient who is distressed by their lack of sexual desire (such as, a man who suddenly cannot be aroused after years of feeling sexual attraction). Getting opt-in treated for a disorder that causes someone distress is NOT the same as conversion therapy, and to even compare the treatment of a legitimate, distressing sexual disorder to the oppression and struggles of gay and other same gender attracted people is so invalidating and disgusting.
Forgot to add this screenshot, from the last link.
Asexuals are not distressed by their asexuality, patients suffering from HSDD are significantly distressed by their lack of sexual desire.
Also, your claim about “conversion therapy via prescription drugs” is particularly flimsy- as I found this when googling HSDD treatment.
Source: http://www.minddisorders.com/Flu-Inv/Hypoactive-sexual-desire-disorder.html
This means that if someone has HSDD due to the medication they are on to treat their depression, they are not given a drug to cure HSDD, they are put on a different anti-depressant. If someone has HSDD due to substance abuse such as chronic alcoholism, they are not given a drug to cure HSDD, they are encouraged to stop drinking.
Some other sources:
Here is a link that refutes your third source which claims that the DSM-5 doesn’t mention asexuality in regards to HSDD, with images showing the actual passage on HSDD in the DSM-5: http://www.asexualityarchive.com/asexuality-in-the-dsm-5/
And here is a link that explains the differences between asexuality and HSDD: http://health.howstuffworks.com/sexual-health/sexuality/asexuality3.htm
@flaringdichotomy
Fhkdksksjshsh you’re right it is listed in the dsm-v. How did I miss that? O_o
((It should be noted the same article you linked lists the problems with the dsm definition and usage of the term asexual, and hence addresses mispractices and adds to my point.))
FJKDJDHSJS OBVIOUSLY THEYRE DIFFERENT WAS THAT NOT CLEAR? I apologize dearly if it sounded as though I was alluding to that and not the MISTREATMENT of asexuality as a disorder. That was horribly horribly clumsy of me. Sorry.
Here are a couple medicines that are prescribed for HSDD, and MAY BE mistakenly prescribed to asexual folks:
https://www.drugs.com/condition/hypoactive-sexual-desire-disorder.html
Where is your source that an asexual person has ever been mistreated for HSDD?
Where is your source that asexuals are subject to “conversion therapy”?
Just because someone ‘may’ be put on medication that isn’t right for them, doesn’t mean they are in conversion therapy.
And again, these drugs are administered due to significant, unerring distress caused by the symptoms of HSDD.
Also you apparently don't understand how anti-gay "reparative" therapy plays out or you wouldn't make lazy comparisons between it and the clinical treatment of HSDD.
Not even remotely similar.