Wow these men are so spectacularly selfish and misogynistic. Like:
"In the same way that I feel like I’ve been robbed of time in my life because I don’t have a child yet, I feel like the sacrifice a woman makes to be pregnant for someone else is an enormous chunk of time out of her life that she’ll never get back, and the compensation really is a token for that.”
Like him being frustrated because he can't have children naturally is the same "sacrifice" than renting a woman's body because after all she's being paid??!
“I believe that people should be able to make decisions about their lives, their bodies. This is so relevant now, with the decision from the supreme court [overturning Roe v Wade]. For me, it goes into the same category as sex work: there’s this puritanical belief that sex workers are being forced to sell themselves. There are many, many sex workers who do not view their line of work that way.”
Yeah buddy thanks for confirming that surrogacy is nothing more than reproductive prostitution that's exactly what we've been saying for years 👍
Women have only 2 important rights for liberal men: sell their bodies and abort. Good to know.
And that spectacular douche bag was a SEX CRIMES PROSECUTOR if anyone wonders why sex trafficking is absolutely not taken seriously anywhere
Of course, there are many women who are forced to sell themselves, I say – those who are trafficked and exploited. Briskin knows this well: he was a sex crimes prosecutor. “Those who are being trafficked are not being compensated for their sex work; any compensation is going into the hands of their pimp,” he replies. “That is not the case for a willing surrogate.”
How can you be a f*cking sex crimes prosecutor and say things like this. It's unhinged. Like the only 'issue' with prostitution is just potential lack of payment. Notice how men, clients, are never mentioned anywhere? The question is always about women selling themselves "freely" never about men who want to enslave them.
When it comes to the fear that gay surrogacy erases mothers, Maggipinto is defiant. “Our family will be a motherless family,” he says, tapping his finger on the table again, “I won’t tiptoe around that.” But the creation of that family doesn’t depend on the exploitation of women. “We’re not using a woman’s body. We are accepting a woman’s generosity to use her own body in a way that she agrees with.”
The second one is no better
“We consider adoption [to be] a form of volunteering. It is not a way to become parents,” he says.
Womb renting is so much more humane! And his comparisons are also completely dumb
“Do we know that the people who are dying for us in most professional armies are not doing it because they didn’t have any other career choice? Firefighters are doing something that degrades their body and could lead to irreversible harm. We pay them less than they deserve because we assume they are patriotic or somehow motivated altruistically.”
Women's body should be available for rent because firefighters is the new soliciting prostitution should be legal because retail workers.
“Situationally, we are the most infertile, by measure of the level of intervention that is required to achieve a pregnancy. We’re also expected to be OK with not having children. This is the kind of discrimination we’re trying to fight the most.”
Of course it's worse for men, it's always worse for men. If women suffer from something the male semi equivalent is always the Worst and the Most Important Issue Ever, and if you don't agree you're a man-hating shrew. Tale as old as time (as misogyny).
It's a very good article that really sums up why I'm fiercely anti surrogacy. I want none of these people able to rent a uterus. Here it's focused on gay men, but anyone, any next-door Kardashian wanting to rent a womb with that kind of justifications can just get lost down to the pits of Hell.
