"phm sold so well they're considering a sequel" I will shoot you off into space. No. Don't do that. Bad. No. Stop. Just give us the extended cut. PleaSEEE
John fueling rumors about his own sexuality (and trying to drag Paul along with him) throughout the 70ās
āP.S. The bit that really puzzled us was asking to meet WITHOUT LINDA AND YOKO. I know youāre camp! But letās not go too far! I thought youād have understood BY NOW, that Iām JOHNANDYOKO.ā
ā John Lennonās letter to Paul McCartney, published in Melody Maker (November, 1971)
āQ. Have you ever fucked a guy?
A. Not yet, I thought Iād save it til I was 40, life begins at 40 you know, tho I never noticed it.
Q. It is trendy to be bisexual and youāre usually ākeeping up with the Jonesā, havenāt you ever... there was talk about you and PAUL...
A. Oh, I thought it was about me and Brian Epstein... anyway Iām saving all the juice for my own version of THE REAL FAB FOUR BEATLES STORY etc... etcā¦ā
ā John Lennon, āInterview with by/on John Lennon and/or Dr. Winston OāBoogieā for Interview Magazine (November, 1974)
āQ: Actually, there wasnāt that much press attention to the separation as one might have expected.
JOHN: Well I read more about myself than you probably do, and Iāll tell you there was. I mean, they would catalogue everyone you went around with, and things like, āLennon In Florida Tripāā¦ things like Rona Barrett wrote that Yoko was living with my ex-wife in a āstrange relationshipā. She was putting that around... we got the clippings and everything. I mean that was dead wrong, because Yoko was definitely NOT living with my ex-wife in āa very feminist relationshipā! I see them all, because Iāve got a clipping service and I get all the newspapers, and you can bet your life somebodyās going to send you the clippings...
Q: Yeah, your friends...
JOHN: Yes, all your best friends let you know whatās going on. I was trying to put it āround that I was gay, you know ā I thought that would throw them off... dancing at all the gay clubs in Los Angeles, flirting with the boys... but it never got off the ground.
Q: I think Iāve only heard that lately about Paul.
JOHN: Oh, Iāve had him, heās no good. (We laugh.)ā
ā John Lennon, interview w/ Lisa Robinson for Hit Parader: āA conversation with John Lennonā (December, 1975)
āThe next night Elliot took us out with a friend of his, Sal Mineo, and we all went to a gay cabaret/discotheque. John was oblivious to the gay ambience. He was curious about everyoneās sexuality and liked to gossip about who was sleeping with whom, whether they were gay or straight. John made no judgements about homosexuality but was really curious about who was and who wasnāt gay.Ā Ā
He knew that his appearance at a gay club might start rumors about his own sexuality, and it made him laugh. He told me that there had been rumors about him and his first manager, Brian Epstein, and that he usually didnāt deny them. He liked the fact that people could be titillated by having suspicions about his masculinity. Then I was the one who was laughing. āHow could anyone believe a man who likes women as much as you do is gay?ā I told him.ā
ā May Pang, āLoving John: The Untold Storyā (1983)
āJOHN: Well, thatās rubbish, you know. Because nobody controls me. Iām uncontrollable. The only one that can control me is me, and thatās just barely possible. But thatās what life is about. And thatās the lesson Iām learning. Because ā nobody ever said anything about Paul having a spell over me, when I was with him for a long time. Or me having a spell over Paul. They didnāt think that was abnormal, two guys together. Or four guys together. In those days? Why didnāt anybody ever say, āHow come those guys donāt split up? I mean, whatās going on backstage? I mean, what is that Paul and John business? Why ā you know, how can they be together so long?ā We spent more time together than John and Yoko, in the early days, the four of us sleeping in the same room, practically in the same bed, in the same truck... living together night and day, doing everything together. Nobody said a damn thing about being under the spell.ā
ā John Lennon, interview w/ David Sheff for Playboy (August, 1980)
Having internet friends is an experience. Did you eat today? I can't believe your sister hasn't apologized yet, what a bitch. Drink a glass of water right now. Want to see a cat picture? I love you. I know you better than your parents. I don't know your name. I'm having a rough day, can you talk to me about your favorite videogame? I love you. Good morning means good night means good afternoon means go to sleep. Here's a doodle I made in class. I'm stealing your clothes as we speak, they're so pretty. I love you. I love your pet. What does your hair look like? I'd love to see that weird leaf. I love you. I'm making you your favorite food. Thank you for holding my secrets for me. I love you. We're having a coffee date. I love you. I'm giving you a screen-sized hug. I love you. I love you. I love you.
Now that the fandom is officially lawless, Iām proving my devotion to my ship by going down with her.
Here are my
Spicy Byler Headcanons
Letās start with Will, shall we?
I think Will bottoms, of course. I think heād be way more open to it than Mike, and heās absolutely fine not having to do all the work. Heās the a pretty pretty princess everywhere he goes, so why should that stop at him being princess of the pillows? š¤Ø
I love the idea that he has an oral fixation, but Iām picky about it. Like about how itās portrayed. I think we should be respectful and remember that Will has really traumatic experiences with stuff being shoved down his throat. So, i think his oral fixation presents itself in biting and kissing and hickeys and sucking on fingers maybe? He doesnāt suck dick and he doesnāt do tongue. Heās got boundaries there.
Heās not picky about positions, because he can find something he loves about most of them. He likes missionary cause he gets to kiss and suck and bite on Mikes shoulders. He likes Doggy cause Mike shoves his fingers in his mouth and pants on the back of his neck. As long as he doesnāt have to do most of the work heās fine, but heāll ride Mike every once in a while, as a treat.
Heās weirdly dominant sometimes? Like, him and Mike will just get into a zone occasionally where Will simply gives him orders one after another on where to kiss him, where to touch, faster slower, harder softer. And Mike very happily complies.
Obligatory daddy kink mention simply because he has daddy issues and any hoe with daddy issues is subjective to the daddy kink
He definitely calls Mike āMichealā during. That one Iāve thought about far before Byler became lawless.
Speaking of Micheal. Its his turn
Mike is a top, but that does not mean heās always dominant. Heās definitely got a side to him that wants to please, and pleasing Will is actually what ends up getting him off sometimes. He likes to watch to see how hard he makes Will cum, cause heās a freak.
He lowkey thinks spanking is hot but heād never be brave enough to tell Will about it. Its probably his catholic guilt or some shit. But at some point Will is like āNo Baby, most gay people are so much freakier than we are.ā when he tells him about how most queer people are into bdsm stuff and heavy dynamics.
He pants and he whimpers- like a dog. Heās also a puppy top. Take orders, whimper, hump things, be stupid. Thats Mike Wheeler.
Love love loves getting his hair pulled, played with, messed with, anything. If your tugging on his hair he is falling apart. Will found that out by mistake at a group movie night when Mike laid his head in Wills lap. He gave one little tug to just mess with him a little and Mike got rock hard. They had to grab a blanket off the back of the couch.
Mike absolutely does suck dick. š He seeās no problems with it at all. He gets to listen to his pretty boyfriend whine and squirm while Will yanks on his hair. I feel like for someone whoās obsessed with having tangible proof that you did a good job pleasing your partner, having to swallow is a very rewarding task.
Now just for the extra bits i think about them both āØcollectivelyāØ
They are the KINGS of role-play. Their relationship was literally built on how much they like to role-play. They flirt in character all the fucking time. Mike has to stop himself from making characters that are in love with Will the Wise because the party was starting to catch on that occasionally Mike and Will just start dirty talking halfway through the campaign. Mike writes Will smutty letters in old english like heās a knight whoās been forbidden to see his Wizard lover because they got caught boning once. And you know Will jerks off to all those fancy words that Mike wrote with his calligraphy pen by candlelight before he left for work. God they would be obnoxious.
Speaking of obnoxious, I think Wills favorite instance of the whole āMike always makes an npc thats in love with Will.ā thing, is this one time Mike made a vampire npc thats kidnapped Will the Wise. Stealing his powers and being able to use them against the party. So, to make it fair, and āimmersiveā Mike insisted Will sit down on the floor next to him. So Will reluctantly does after arguing why he canāt sit in a chair, which Mike canāt give a good answer for. And then once heās sat on the floor, Mike cuffs him to the table with a pair of shitty prop handcuffs heās had for years. So the party is focused trying to figure out how to save Will, Mike is gushing in his vampire voice about how delicious Will is going to be after heās cut him up and drained his blood, and Will is trying not to make eye contact with Max because she is the only one whoās going to clock the blush on his face.
I think thats all i have to say, but who knows, maybe if lawless byler sticks around iāll have more opportunities to vent these opinions š Surely iāll get more freaky ideas now that ive made space for more dirty thoughts lol.
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Camazotz is an analogy for Mike, and Vecna has been watching him since the very beginning of the show, and he is going to be attacked (a theory)
in the basement on Halloween (crazy together)
[clock chime] when Mike sees Vecna this season
at the snowball (pushed Will towards a girl)
outside during a thunderstorm (argument with Will)
in the kitchen with his mother (after Will left for California)
at the hospital where Mike finds A Wrinkle in Time and where he repeatedly gives into heteronormativity
on the playground where he met Will (best thing he ever did btw)
All leading back to the first moment Mike realized something was different and suppressed it:
And now that Max, his fourth victim is free, Vecna has triggered his āfail-safeā planāMike Wheeler.
Vecna fulfills his promise to āsmoke a fox out of the denā by pushing Will to come out knowing it would trigger all Mikeās repressed trauma (Willās coming out scene perfectly parallels Vecna beginning to enact his plan and the focus keeps cutting to Holly the way Willās scene keeps cutting to Mike. Mike who we have been told is Holly.)
So he can launch his most most shocking attack yet, probably sounding a little something like this:
(peep the pipes almost giving vine vibes and the ā I LOVE MIL-WOKYā and rainbow stickers. Dare I say a nod to Mikeās false confession?)
One might even call it a ticking time bomb requiring some thematic music:
ok i am crashing out and nothing will make that coming out conference excusable BUT
i havent seen anyone talk about how this insanely heavy handed shot
is obviously foreshadowing that Will is the bridge and also confirms that this
was intentional! i mean its literally the same shot, and the fact that the diagram lines up with el, mike and will is not an accident! This type of thing has meaning in the language of film and if the will/bridge shot foreshadows his role in the finale, the el/mike/will shot has to foreshadow something as well.
i mean yeah the duffers might just be suffers that dont care about mike and will's relationship anymore but its undeniable that at least during s4 they were setting up the possibility of byler. so either its queerbait or they are somehow going for byler endgame.
The duffers for real just seem to bully Noah. Like all promo they have been treating him like shit, making snide comments and just acting like he is some child who is going to spoil everything when all he tries to do is talk seriously about his character and his arc. They made him keep that fuckass bowl cut for four whole seasons because they knew he hated it and thought that was funny. Like cool letās just give people even more ammo to mock the singular gay character on the show because we enjoy upsetting a child. Like they knew that he loved byler and how much it would mean to him and they made him drag out their queer bait bullshit and then made him act out the most offensive coming out scene in television history. Like why did the only gay actor of the core four have to go through that fucking humiliation ritual i canāt even imagine how triggering and upsetting that must have been to do. Not even to mention the way they just seem to forget Caleb and Priah, the ONLY black main actors, even exist half the time. Champion of the marginalised my ass.
I know. What's even worse is that I've just seen several interviews with Noah about the coming out scene where he expressed how he was unsure whether the "and me" thing was going to work, that he felt weird about having to do it in front of such a large audience, and he even said that he felt so much pressure because this was going to be such a big scene for all the young wills of the world. This situation is deeply weird. He's been wondering when he'll get a coming out scene, and they strung him along for years, its fucked up.
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