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Will created the mindflayer & Upsidedown theory
I wanted to explore this theory again after the recent release of âWill byers: secret filesâ (which is Willâs cannon journal). Essentially, to keep a very long story short.El opened the âdoorâ to Willâs mind and unleashed the repressed memories of his father. That manifested into the upside down- Â and all the monsters that inhabit it. So lets begin.
Will has always been hinted to have powers.
In the 1st episode, Will wins Dustinâs xmen comic in a bet- and Dustin later asks the gang âDo you think Eleven was born with powers like the xmen?â While in the last ep of s1 (when Will returns) Dustin says to him âsheâs like a wizard.â COUGH âWill the wiseâ , Willâs alter-ego who happens to be wizard. Mike even corrects Dustin and says sheâs not a wizard. So the fact that Dustinâs Gf references Wizard stories relating to Will is kind of brilliant!Her room references 2 stories Wizard of Oz and A wizard of Earthsea.
In âthe Wizard of Ozâ- the land of Oz (the upsidedown) was a figment of Dorothyâs (Willâs) imagination.Â
-âA wizard of Eathseaâ- Is about a male wizard Ged (Will) who casts a powerful spell, but the spell goes awry and instead he releases a shadow creature! The new Archmage, Gensher, describes the shadow as an ancient evil that wishes to possess Ged. But the âshadowâ turns out to be a representation of the darkest aspects of his personality.
-âNever ending storyâ( the song susie sang , from the movie of the same title)- In the story the land of Fantasia represents humanityâs imagination and is thus without boundaries. However âthe Nothingâ (the upside down) which has taken over Fantasia is a manifestation of the loss of hopes and dreams. The monster even bites Atreyu (Elâs) leg. An Empress later tells Bastian (Will) that as he follows Atreyuâs (Elâs) story, âothersâ (El/atreyu and the rest of the st cast) are following Bastianâs (Willâs), making them all part of the neverending story. And that they were all wrong - atreyu isnât the chosen one, but sebastian (the human with the power of imagination, a bowl cut, single parent household, and who in the novel temporarily went evil after losing his memories)- aka Will.
-âSuspicious Mindsâ (ST prequel novel)- a psychic character named Alice, says âMonstersâŠof course my brain has them.âAs long as they stayed in there, everything would be all right. âWouldnât it?â
-âMontauk Projectâ- The original title for Stranger things was âMontaukâ- in reference to the Montauk Project. It was about experiments conducted on psychic children, where the scientists would âbreakâ them psychologically to strengthen their powers and to program them. In one of the stories there was a boy named Duncan who could âopen portals to other dimensions and periods of timeâ . However, one day âDuncan let loose a monster from his subconscious.â
Will created everything the demorgorgan, the mindflayer,demodogs, etc- and his âstoryâ is very susceptible to other peoplesâ suggestions . In the 1st episode Mike said demogorgan was attracted to blood- so when Will created it in real life, that was what it was attracted to. He also always asks his friends what he should do when facing the d&d monsters (the demorgorgan & thessalhydra) - and both times they suggested âfire balling itâ (which is all the upside-down creaturesâ weakness). In S1 Jonathan/Nancy/Steve light the demogorgan on fire. In S2 they burn the mindflayer out of Will, and burn the vines. S3 they throw fireworks (fireballs) at the monster the mindflayer created. And in the 1st ep Will is captured by the demogorgan (in the game) so he was captured in real life.
In s2 , the gang read (in Willâs d&d manual) that mindflayers (the representation of his abusive dad/the thesalhydra shown at the end of s1) could be killed by zombies. Will was dubbed zombie boy in s2, and in s3 watches âday of the deadâ (a movie about zombies) and then writes a story about juju zombies. Will says in his d&d story âit bites your arm, flesh tears- aaaah!â But instead it bites Elâs leg as she screams âah!â as Mike rips it off her leg. Than the victims of the mindflayer turn into zombies and become âthe thingâ. Because when Willâs writing his d&d story heâs sitting right next to Mikeâs âthe thing â poster. And when talking to Nancy & Jonathan he describes them as âthose thingsâ. In willâs journal it is also said âthe thingâ is one of his fav movies.
In s3, Lucas and Mike even debate which version of the film is better- so obviously the whole gang (including Will) has seen it. And in s2, he lies to his mom and says the mindflayer sketch was âfor a story heâs writingâ. But unbeknownst to him, thatâs what is actually happening. We even see in s2, the demorgogans become âdemo-dogsâ after his dog died between seasons 1-2. And in Willâs cannon journal he says he understands why Dustin is attached to it - since it reminds him of Chester (his dead dog) that he misses. In s1 Hopper even mentions the book Cujo about a violent dog, after that dog dies the owner even get a new dog named âWillieâ.
However, s3 truly reveals how powerful he is. Because itâs not just monsters he creates . But he can alter reality itself (without a monster having to do it). When Mike hijacks Willâs d&d story saying âtheyâll torch the chambers, sacrificing themselves killing the juju â. Will gets angry and yells âFine, you win.â And then Joyce and Hopper do just that- when they pull the lever, and Hopper âdiesâ sacrificing himself, and the Russians literally are eviscerated.
And In s2 Nancy describes the mindflayer (but sheâs actually describing Will).
âSo this thing is like a brain thatâs controlling everything.â
Hopper then says âSo how do we kill this thing shoot it with fireballs?â
And Dustin says â No, No, fireballs you summon an undead army.â
But Mike actually nails it on the head when he says, âIf the brain dies the body dies ⊠closing the gate will kill him(referring to Will).â
Because itâs not the mindflayersâ brain - itâs Willâs brain!
Will has a lot of powers and one is lightning/fire powers. And he accidentally created the mindflayer (since it represents the repressed memories of his abusive father and also the d&d creatures/stories) . So the reason the MF has lightning powers is because Will does.
In s2 we see the scientists investigating electronics being burned in the upside down. Similar to Joyceâs phones and the radio at school which was burnt in s1.Will caused the radio at the school to catch fire (not El). The U.S gov goes to the school-to verify it wasnât a natural cause and then they go straight to Willâs house. Brenner even goes into the Byersâ shed and says âspectacularâ- similar to how he referred to El killing those men as âincredibleâ. And we know the mindflayer is also associated with lightning/storms (but thatâs only because itâs one of Willâs other abilities). When Hopper sees Joyceâs phone he even says âstorm bq-ed this pretty good.â And in s2 a scientist said the same phrase while in the upside down. Showing a correlation between Will and the mindflayer.
In the comic we see electricity come out of Willâs hands. And he drew his wizard character with lightning (BEFORE) he went to the upside down. Â And in the comic he also gets the lights to flick (from another dimension) by closing his eyes and concentrating. Like Joyce said in the show Will did âblink once for yes twice for noâ.
Then in Willâs cannon journal âWill byers: secret filesâ. We see Will draw himself with lightning. Will doesnât consciously realize he created the monsters/upside down- but he is subconsciously aware he can manipulate lights and has electric abilities.
He draws his d&d character on a cloud with lightning and says how he can relate to El âhaving power like this⊠it can separate you. Make you feel alone. I think I know how she feels.â
Will in his journal even draws the mind flayer with red lightning, and later  uses red paper to sketch clouds/lightning and pastes a picture of himself on to it. Because deep in his subconscious (along with the memories of his father- he realizes he created the mf). And Joyce even describes the tunnels he draws as âlike lightning.â
Will (like El) has a lot of powers: Â Lightning/fire powers, seeing into the future/scrying/ intuition, mind control, creating things from his imagination/altering reality, shadow-walking/opening portals, techno-pathy, and remote viewing.
Will says heâs a wizard ( writing on a music tape in s3 âwill the wise-wizard mixâ and having his password for castle byers be ârhadaghastâ- a lotr wizard). The way they describe d&d Wizards matches Will/mf perfectly âWizards are adepts and magicians who combine according to the type of their spells. Relying on the subtle weaves of magic that permeate the universe, wizards are able to create spells of explosive fire, sparking lightning, subtle deception, and gross mind control. Their magic summons monsters from other planes of existence, predicts the future, and turns defeated enemies into zombies. Their most powerful spells can transform one substance into another, summon meteors from the sky, and open portals to other worldsâ
We also see Will has been associated with bears (along with 3 other animal symbols associated with other psychics- Terry, El, and Kali).Bears symbolically represent âwisdomâ like âWill the wiseâ. Wicca even means âwisdomâ. and in the show they are associated with the demorgorgan/upside down in s1 and 2 . Max and Nancy both compared demorgorgans to bears- and Nancy and Jonathan used a bear-trap to capture the demorgorgan in s1.
So when El tries to grab Willâs teddy bear (it was shown to be his in s1) with her powers. And Mike says âtheyâll come backâ. They might actually âcome backâ- but now be within Will. Since in d&d mindflayers have telekinesis (which we havenât seen) and the mf may have taken them .
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Jesus Christ, this was very traumatising, very similar to my experience unfortunately, I cried so much reading this
Hi! I was thinking about watching some of the s4 related movies and "the book of henry" seems to be the biggest one on the board. Should i watch it first...? Or why do you think they write it so big? is it more related to your theories?
Itâs important . And Lonnie and Will related.
I wouldnât say itâs the most important per say- but still very important(they made the title big and put 3 explanation points next to it, unlike other movies for a reason). It shows a repetitive theme from other movies relating to dads who do the worst things to their kids. Trigger warning- at least 30 + movies have a dad r*pe their kids. Or a family member or other adult do so. Thatâs not even including the movies which mention the r*pe of adults , or v*ctim blaming from the villain /cops or the victim themselves , m*rder, or other forms of ab*se/ch*ld ab*se. Alot of movies also have other dark themes -like s*icidal thoughts or attempts. So Iâd read movie descriptions before watching and going in blind and not being prepared and getting possibly VERY VERY triggered.
The book of Henry as the movie where Jaeden Martell played Henry, the main character? Or....?
what do u guys call ur moms ??? idk why this is so fascinating to me but in english i call my mom âmomâ but in romanian i call her âmamiâ mostly or if im annoyed then âmamaâ ??? most ppl ive met call theirs mom though
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Within 24 hours we had received a new, even bigger pantry and more donations than we knew what to do with so we could stock it back up. Weâre showing them that weâre not intimidated and weâre not going anywhere. We have the community on our side
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ok but i didn't see anyone talking about it, how would Ted, mike's father, react to byler/mike's sexuality?
Hmm, thatâs a good question. I canât say with absolute certainty, but my guess is that Ted probably assumes Mike is gay (like Karen does), and has accepted it. I honestly donât think either Ted or Karen are raging homophobes, which seems to be an unpopular opinion as they usually are portrayed as such in fanfic (nothing wrong with that, of course, I just have a different read on things). But Ted made a joke about Mike being with a girl, and I donât think that was because Mike is a nerd. I think it was because he suspects Mike is gay. He also offered to talk to Mike after Will âdiedâ, and also wanted Mike to call him at work if he needed him, which shows he knows just how much Will means to Mike. I think Ted, Karen, and Nancy all suspect it. I see Ted as less supportive than Karen, but accepting of things. In more of the âI guess my son is gay and in love with his best friend and thatâs just how things areâ way. I may be wrong though lol. Ted is harder for me to read than Karen, who definitely knows Mike is gay and in love with Will and supports him.
Ted is that type of parent that probably when Mike comes out as gay he will say "OK" đđ
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Will is wearing red and Mike and El blue-I
Dustin: Quick, I need a 4 letter word for annoying!
Max and Will, at once: Mike.
Mike: :(
Dustin: Why are you like this.
I can imagine Max and Will high five 'cause they said it at the same time, while smiling
I think no one will see this but uh, still. Here I'm telling you guys something about me:]
Name: Mia, it's actually Anamaria but don't call me that or I'll rip your eye out of your head.
Sexuality: pansexual bitch rigth here :}
The first fandom I got into : 1D, in 2014 and I'm still a directioner
The most recent fandom I got in: Nowhere boys now in 2020, a few months ago and I'm already obsessed with them
Favourite color : blue
Favourite animal : owls
Personality : weird af, nerdy, talkative when you get to know me, obsessed with a boy band and gay shit, rambling crazy and stupid stuff and making theories that no one wanna hear all day long.
Hobbies: photographying nature, reading, watching Larry Stylinson proof, Byler proof
Oh and also, I'm sitting on the toilet rn
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if mike sees el as a "blank slate", that's not only pretty dehumanizing, but also kinda problematic thing to do. i just don't understand why, if you think he would do such a thing like that, if he's that bad of a person, why you would ship him with your fave?
Itâs one of many reasons I donât ship him with El. Cause he doesnât respect her as her own person (unlike how he views Will). You canât humanize/respect a person who you use as a beard- cause then you couldnât continue to use them without feeling guilty. Heâs compartmentslizing. plus seeing her as her own person would make it harder to project Will on to her. And he would have to sooner accept the truth (heâs gay). But, people are just brushing over the fact heâs doing it out of fear and ignorance. Heâs a middle schooler in the 80s. Kids make mistakes , especially out of fear (making mistakes and changing behavior is how people grow) . Do people just not realize how terrifying it was to accept being gay back then?! How people in similar situations were killed in such small towns due to mob-justice ? Saying gays were being killed by the âgay cancerâ (aids) cause god was punishing them (and that it was deserved) ? Using homophobic slurs (f*g) on tv comedically? Equating it to mental illness/ predatory behavior? Not allowed to legally work as teachers cause it was equated with p*dophilia?! Itâs true look it up . People really need to look back at the historical period (use google people ... not that hard đ) and stop viewing the show from todayâs viewpoint . Some straight people (and some queer people who donât know our history or how bad it was just 10 years ago ) refuse to see it from mikeâs position. In the 2010s theyâd say âthatâs gayâ (bad) and ââm straightâ (doing good) constantly- on a daily basis. We only recently have gained civil rights in the usa (same sex marriage). Itâs terrifying accepting being gay as a kid in many places today - let alone in a small conservative town in the 80s! What heâs doing isnât right but he genuinely thought he could transfer his romantically feelings for Will to El and cure himself. Which isnât possible. And honestly, Iâve already talked about how neither loves eachother ... theyâre both using each-other. Mike is using her to look straight and el is subconsciously using him to feel normal and live out her soap opera fantasies . Neither love each other or respect eachother as people. Mike uses her as a blank slate to project Will on to. And el watched too many soap operas and is trying to emulate the corny toxic romances in them- the soap opera she watched in s2 was about a girl (who she mimicked) who was into a dr named mike (FYI they werenât endgame) . We see in s1 and 3 she doesnât actually like mikeâs personality and only swooned when he acted like a bad boy like how he was with Hopper (she canonically thinks he talks too much, doesnât know if she likes kissing him, and doesnât like his nerdy intersts). She attacked max for smiling at mike- cause she wrongfully thinks of mike as her possession (like her teddy bear). And is probably emulating all the soap operas where girls start physically fighting over âtheir men.â. She didnât mention how she heard his love confession for 3 months until he gave her, her teddy bear (a comfort object she used in s2 and 3) and âconvientlyâ right before she left for a new and unfamiliar environment . If I love someone and knew it was mutual I wouldnât ignore that fact till the last possible moment. Sheâs frustrated and vulnerable without her powers and then sees mike âlike her heroâ walk in and give her her bear (that she couldnât get by herself) . And proclaims she âloves himâ ...girl didnât even know how to assess what clothes she liked but we expect her to know sheâs in love? Mike represents something sheâs used to and the idea of normalcy but also a false unhealthy co-dependent idea of love (that she saw in soap operas). Theyâre both using eachother . They can barely hold a conversation , have nothing in common ,and never apologized when they spied and lied to the other. Mike projects on to el his fantasy of being straight and el projects on to mike her false fantasy of being in a soap opera romance đ
Mileven is toxic but Mike and El arenât horrible people. Theyâre kids and their relationship is a mistake. Like hopper said to El about mileven âkeep growing up kid...make mistakes, learn from emâ.â
People are quite stupid for hating on Mike just because of season 3 or saying he was a jerk. Do they realise how hard it is in general to be gay? And even realise it? It takes time to figure out and for him was even harder with Troy who bully him for being gay and those people saying that being gay is wrong and just a phase and he though Will was his best friend and being that close is normal until the end of season 3,so how would act like when you realise you're actually in love with his best friend and he didn't even know if Will feelings are mutual so there's a lot to stress about, I understand where he's "attitude" comes from, you have to understand the character not to jump right on him and judge him for what he did, try and put yourself on their situation on you'll see what they do what they do
@kaypeace21 lol, I was reading one of your posts and I've seen this picture
And I've got an crazy idea-canon thingy, Will was confused about his feelings about Mike but deep inside him he always knew that he loves Mike not in a friendship way and then Eleven shows up, out of nowhere, and Eleven "stoles" Mike from Will or at least any chance that Will could have with Mike(Will's perspective), so when the Byers move to Chicago, Will finds Ralph and hook up with him and, of course Will didn't know that Eleven find him attractive but the Duffers migth do this for all the pain Will felt about Mileven, so I went on Google and searched where did he grow up and he grew up in New York, not Chicago. I know it sounds crazy but I thought the Duffers migth shadoweding (idk if it's the right word đ ) this in S3. I got kinda disappointed đđ„
âmax is mean and manipulativeâ and âwill isnât gay he is just emotionally underdevelopedâ are two sides of the same coin and the coin is ST fans with no thoughts head empty
!!!!!!!!!!! whereâs the lie !!!!!!
The same people who say Will isnât gay, and is just not ready to date cause he lost some of his childhood . Are the same people ok with mileven. Despite, her being stripped of her entire childhood (and having little to no socialization or understanding of the outside world). She didnât even know what a friend was before escaping-and asked Mike if heâd be her brother and friend (right before he kissed her).El in s2 had just learned how to tell time and what the word âcompromiseâ meant  (by Hopper). While in the same season, Mike (the computer prodigy/ boy who won the science fair 4x ) was  talking about âectothermsâ and schooling Hopper on computer software.  The difference in knowledge makes me uncomfortable-on so many levels. And in s3 she didnât even know what a state was (specifically what Illinois was- despite going there last season), held a teddy bear like 5 year old Holly did at the carnival, asked Max âhow do i know what i like?â (despite her needing to know this concept before already dating Mike), and later saying she didnât know if she liked kissing Mike.She also didnât understand why stalking an ex was wrong. Or the fact she lied to her friends about her curfew so she could ditch them- but then got confused at the idea of Mike lying to her cause â friends donât lie?â. Cause she clearly is a stunted child in the body of a teenager (and just doesnât understand a lot of basic concepts -like hypocrisy and the fact friends can indeed lie). But nah, sheâs way more ready than Will- makes sense for her to start dating Mike after knowing him for only 4 days (despite the warning signs sheâs not readyâŠcause heteronormativity/love at first sight). XD
Erica is 10 ⊠now be honest who is closer in maturity level/intellect to the teens. Her or El? Erica who is gifted in math, a political junkie, and can hold long convos with the teens, and when asked about clausterphobia - actually knew what it meant. Or El who just stared confused about a basic question, cause she didnât even understand what a state was (and is still learning how to write and is still in the phase where sheâs mostly mimicking others verbally and gets confused by most slang). Be honestâŠ
And yeah, the same people saying that about Max- said the same stuff about Lucas in s1 (for interfering with mileven). obviously, Max is not mean or manipulative- she wasnât 100% right, but people are just pissed she called out milevenâs issues.
Also, how is someone ânot being ready to grow upâ cancel them being gay? Both can be true-theyâre not mutually exclusive . Plus, a lot of gay kids are afraid to grow up (more so than straight kids) cause then theyâd have to face the fact theyâre not straight like their peers -_-
THE LAST PRASHE IS SO RELATABLE. I'm afraid of growing up and having to come out to my parents, I know that they will come but I just don't want it to
Will Byers! :)
I meant to answer this Ask an eternity ago, and you have been so incredibly patient with me! (Thank you!!!)Â
I think because Will is my favorite character, I started to fuss over my answer too much, and before I knew it we were here: a few months later, and a long while after I offered to answer these specific questions for character Asks. Today, I want to finally answer your Ask for my favorite character: Will Byers.
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@strangertheory yep youâre def right about the spotify song- afraid, giving DiD vibes-â  my friends always lie to meâŠfight those demonsâŠBeing me can only mean feeling scared to breatheâŠWhen I wake up Iâm afraid, somebody else might take my place.When I wake up Iâm afraid, somebody else might end up being me.
Other songs on Willâs spotify playlist you may be interested in that gave off DID vibes. And just allude to my theory about âthe mf being an alterâ.
1)mirror in the bathroom- âMirror in the bathroom.Recompense,For all my crimes of self defense.Cures you whisper, make no sense.Drift gently into mental illness. Mirror in the bathroom please talk free. the door is locked Just you and me.â
2)Upsidedown & insideout- âUpside down and inside out.And you can feel it, feel it.Donât know where your eyes are? But theyâre not doinâ what you said Donât know where your mind is babyâŠSo when you met the new you Were you scared?Were you cold?Were you kind? Yeah when you met the new you.â
3)cold cold cold-âDoctor can you help me cause I donât feel right Better make it fast before I change my mind.Doctor can you help me cause I donât feel right.Better make it fast before I change my mind. Well itâs cold, cold, cold, cold insideâŠCounselor give me some advice Tell me how hard will I fall if I live a double lifeâŠAnd as the darkness falls it fills up both my eyes.My life before me like a flash in the night.â
4)free falling-âMove west down Ventura Boulevard And all the bad boys are standing in the shadows.And Iâm free, Iâm free fallinââŠIâm gonna free fall out into nothinâ Gonna leave this world for a while.â
if you want a bunch of spoilers the demogorganâs playlist gives a lot of hints about Will,mf, lonnie, s4 spoilers,etc.
So.. what are you saying is that Will has DID??
Millie just said in an interview for Glamour about El: "Iâd love for her to get her powers back because she is a hero, she is like a super woman in a way. And she loves Mike â I want them to get married. Thatâs what I need. I need a wedding scene for Stranger Things, period." So that's it, Byler is not happening. At least not in S4, because she wouldn't say that if she had seen in the scripts that Byler was happening, she still genuinely thinks Mileven is endgame.
Lol Millie is Mileven obsessed. I donât buy into a word she says. Sorry, but a teenager obsessed with Mileven is not going to impact me at all. It doesnât change anything. She has no sway. The only place Mileven gets married is in her imagination. She just does what she is asked to in the show.
Also notice how she went from saying that Milevens love each other to El loves Mike (which she doesnât but I degress). She knows that Mike is gay and in love with Will but still wants Mileven. Nowhere there did she say that Mike loves El, because he doesnât love her and Millie knows that.
Also . Millie said the same thing before s3 âitâs very serious⊠weâre basically going to get married tomorrow . Thatâs basically how they act in the show.â (In reference to s3, which no they donât act like that in s3 -thatâs delusional ramblings) . And Finn rolled his eyes and made a scoff noise , when she said the marriage line. And Gaten says after that, sarcastic âthatâs œ of 13 y olds.â She even says the âserious/marriageâ line cause Saddie and others in the cast referred to mileven and lumax as â representing what young relationships are like. yânow ? theyâre not- we donât take it too seriously.â No one agrees with her assessment.
Donât believe me watch the clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv7_pdaF26Q
Time stamp: 6:47-6:58 (Rolled and huffed at 6:55)
This is also the girl who said about brenner â I feel like papa is a warm guy and he did love me inside.âAnd Matt Duffer just said sad and a bit annoyed /sarcastic âwarm?! stockhold syndrome, is what they call this.â And then Millie argues that the duffers (THE CREATORS/WRITERS) were wrong , in response saying â no⊠i know we had a good connectionâ. And Matt just corrects her AGAIN and says âI wouldnât use the word GOOD! He threw you in a box when you didnât behave ! Tried to make you kill a cat!âđ link start at 0:57
Not to mention she thought the romance of joe/beck in âyouâ wasnât creepy and toxic and defended joe. Itâs concerning ⊠cause joe was a sicko violent stalker to beck in those first few eps Millie watched - he stalked her with friends, work, school, home, cyber stalked , broke into her house and stole her underwear , stole her phone to track her , w*nked outside her window while stalking her (that specifically was in the first ep , may I add) . But Millie after 4 eps said âstop insulting joe . Heâs not creepy! He loves her!â I hope someone is watching Millie cause she canât seem to read very obvious warning signs . Also explains why sheâs oblivious to mileven being unhealthy . If she canât read obvious clues like in âyouâ- she canât read the subtle cues mileven is domed , so she still claims theyâre destined even after s3 and the first 4 eps of s4.
*Sorry, but given her record of âinterpreting mediaâ Iâd not trust her at all tbh.
And she prefaces that whole spiel in Glamour with âI trust the Duffer brothers so much that itâs going to be beautiful and Iâm going to love it no matter what it is. But Iâd love for her to get her powers backâŠâmeaning sheâs just saying what she personally wants -maybe even implying how what the Duffers plan isnât what she wants when she says things like âtrustâŠno matter what it is â and âbutâ . Plus, she went on about her nose bleeding on their wedding day and how itâd be cute and says âdoesnât that sound right?â It just sounds like a typical fan girl, fantasizing.
David says certain character arcs are explained WAY ahead of time -to the person playing that character. Winona verified this and explained why this was done, by saying âif iâm revealed to be an axe murder, seasons later, I would have played it very differently if I knew from the beginning.â So finn & Noah (unlike Millie) know byler is endgame -cause they have to know - so it can be played accurately before the reveal. And cause byler is actually important to the series. Why David mentioned before s1 the Duffers wrote an improv duet scene for Finn and Noah  - during the long selection process and multiple auditions (it was like a kid version of a chem test.)
So true, and the fact that she shipped Stancy (who, of course, ended up not being endgame) shows the fact that she doesn't really pay attention to the story line, movies references and no one is telling her anything, this makes her sound delusional