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@rhaenyrasbabe
I think the people supporting 'Rhaenicent' are :-
A person who CRAVES for female x female relationships
A person who genuinely hates Rhaenyra
A person who jus likes the ship cuz both Emma D'Arcy and Olivia Cooke are hot.
A person who read dark romance. (abuser x victim)
if you idolize Alicent, Sansa, And Elia for their softness and their suffering but hate Rhaenyra, Daenerys, and Arya for their defiance and strength, I just want you to be aware that you sound like a male incel with a podcast. You’re also setting back feminism by 10 years.
Everyone saying Rhaenyra clapped Alicent with "Now they see you as you are. ", that she was so cool, badass (No she wasn't), No one saying Aemond clapped the entire existence of everyone present there with "Do not mourn me mother, it was a fair exchange. I may have lost an eye but I gained a dragon".
A 10-12 year old boy who just lost an eye, whose wound is still bleeding, and came to a realization that his father will never care for him, telling his mom to not be sad for him, is the most badass thing of the entire show!!!
Funny, since the fact that Alicent demanding a child's eye is called badass?
Why are you obsessed with aegon you pathetic tb wacko #ew
Maybe because I'm arguing against him. Atleast I know where to find the clit lmaoooooo
The fact that TG is entirely based on misogyny? I mean if Rhaenyra had been a guy everyone would've supported her. THIS POST is the definition of misogyny tf-?
How to make people forget that you're a rapist.
Hang out with your son for a day. Only your son, although you have a daughter.
Be nice to some common folk, even though you raped your way into them.
Mourn said son despite not knowing shit about him.
DONE! You made everyone successfully forget you're a rapist. Now you're a dad with grief!
"Helaena didn't OWE anything to Rhaenyra." So you said it, Helaena is a Green. Done. Okay. Do you not get that this can go vice versa? Wtf did Helaena do for Rhaenyra, hmm? Helaena legit sided with Aegon in the books, she didn't do nothing in the war either, although having a dragon, and she doesn't get hated for it. She doesn't get hated for Lucerys' death although Rhaenyra does get hate for B&C. One threat of rape to Helaena's daughter, and everyone freaks, but what about the women that were raped during the battle of Tumbleton? Helaena was a perfectly sane person in the books, she could've just wrote a letter to Rhaenyra. But she didn't. Helaena didn't deserve to die/go through trauma, but have you heard the line "witnessing a sin and not doing anything about it is also a sin."?
Stupidest post I’ve ever seen on tumblr and I’ve been on here for 11 years
"How dare she side with her husband in war" when said husband is a drunk whore.
People on this app need to learn to comprehend that people have opinions oml. On my Helaena "hate" post i have haters now. Just know that I'm a real goddamn person. I'm not 12, but I'm pretty sure a 12 year old would understand that post.
What I post is my decision, if you want to argue with me, I'm up for a little debate. If you're "tired" and not wanting to elucidate your point of views, don't react/stop replying.
It's one thing to be purposefully rude.
"Helaena didn't OWE anything to Rhaenyra." So you said it, Helaena is a Green. Done. Okay. Do you not get that this can go vice versa? Wtf did Helaena do for Rhaenyra, hmm? Helaena legit sided with Aegon in the books, she didn't do nothing in the war either, although having a dragon, and she doesn't get hated for it. She doesn't get hated for Lucerys' death although Rhaenyra does get hate for B&C. One threat of rape to Helaena's daughter, and everyone freaks, but what about the women that were raped during the battle of Tumbleton? Helaena was a perfectly sane person in the books, she could've just wrote a letter to Rhaenyra. But she didn't. Helaena didn't deserve to die/go through trauma, but have you heard the line "witnessing a sin and not doing anything about it is also a sin."?
a lot of these arguments sorta fall apart when u take a moment to think and realize that
1) helaena was a consort, rhaenyra was a queen
2) helaena went crazy and spent the majority of the war locked in her room, likely oblivious to the specifics of what was happening across the kingdom.
3) helaena and rhaenyra are practically strangers. the only moment in the book that can be considered an interaction between them was when rhaenyra was sort of mocking alicent and her children at court. helaena has no reason to choose to side with rhaenyra over the greens and rhaenyra doesn’t have any reason to show any favor towards helaena.
most of what u said would be more effective if u were talking abt aegon. at the very least he actually held the same position of power as rhaenyra.
Helaena was a QUEEN CONSORT. She wasn't a Rapunzel, it's time the fandom realizes that. She had the ability to run, or fight.
Helaena didn't go crazy, she was sane, she was mourning, though. But c'mon her husband was a rapist and she knew that.
Helaena knew about the fact of who was heir rightfully, she's not a lamb to the slaughter. She knew about the fact that Rhaenyra would accept her if she went to Dragonstone.
u lowkey being obtuse on purpose but i’ll expand on what i said so then maybe you understand.
helaena being queen consort in the green council—which weaponized misogyny— gave her very limited power. she was dependent on aegon’s hard headed ass listening to her advice, as opposed to rhaenyra who was the queen and had the final say on the decisions in her faction.
the only reason i brought up this difference in power is because you brought up lucerys, b&c, and tumbleton. rhaenyra, as queen, is going to be held more accountable for the actions of her men because she has a bigger hand and voice in the war. her men will carry out her rulings. the greens don’t follow helaena, they follow aegon.
helaena was explicitly stated to have gone mad in fire and blood. she was incapacitated. she stayed sane in hotd.
and yeah she knew who the rightful heir was, she could have ran or written in theory, but her mother was one of the heads of the coup. she might not like aegon but he’s the father of her children. once he was crowned, they were his immediate heirs.
helaena, in the books and the show, is close with her mother and puts her children above anything else. why should she betray her and put her kids in danger over “the rightful heir” that she more than likely doesn’t trust?
when rhaenyra wrote to the greens asking them to surrender, she was asking for aegon, aemond, and helaena, not just one of them. if only helaena went, aegon would still not have forfeited the throne and she and her children would probably become hostages at the mercy of the blacks.
its too big of a risk to take for a lady she dgaf about.
also, i never called her or implied she was a lamb to slaughter. i was only telling you that ur arguments fall apart easily when you stop seeing everything in black and white.
"helaena was explicitly stated to have gone mad in fire and blood. she was incapacitated. she stayed sane in hotd." After the death of her son, which she could've stopped
"when rhaenyra wrote to the greens asking them to surrender, she was asking for aegon, aemond, and helaena, not just one of them. if only helaena went, aegon would still not have forfeited the throne and she and her children would probably become hostages at the mercy of the blacks." She still would've welcomed Helaena with open arms, kissed her on the cheek and made her a part of the council.
"helaena, in the books and the show, is close with her mother and puts her children above anything else. why should she betray her and put her kids in danger over “the rightful heir” that she more than likely doesn’t trust?" Maybe because said rightful heir was her sister?
"its too big of a risk to take for a lady she dgaf about." Well why should Rhaenyra gaf about her? Why is B&C said to be most traumatic when Daeron actually had girls raped and killed?
i’ve never discussed anything w somebody so childish and hard headed😭
lemme just reiterate a few things: helaena doesn’t owe anything to rhaenyra. rhaenyra doesn’t owe anything to helaena. stop looking at stuff through a black and white lens, it makes u stupid.
Then why are you arguing with me? My post was for the ones who think that Helaena was innocent af and other things?
Yes, I have argued with you but I haven't been blatantly throwing out insults. We're all adults here.
"Helaena didn't OWE anything to Rhaenyra." So you said it, Helaena is a Green. Done. Okay. Do you not get that this can go vice versa? Wtf did Helaena do for Rhaenyra, hmm? Helaena legit sided with Aegon in the books, she didn't do nothing in the war either, although having a dragon, and she doesn't get hated for it. She doesn't get hated for Lucerys' death although Rhaenyra does get hate for B&C. One threat of rape to Helaena's daughter, and everyone freaks, but what about the women that were raped during the battle of Tumbleton? Helaena was a perfectly sane person in the books, she could've just wrote a letter to Rhaenyra. But she didn't. Helaena didn't deserve to die/go through trauma, but have you heard the line "witnessing a sin and not doing anything about it is also a sin."?
a lot of these arguments sorta fall apart when u take a moment to think and realize that
1) helaena was a consort, rhaenyra was a queen
2) helaena went crazy and spent the majority of the war locked in her room, likely oblivious to the specifics of what was happening across the kingdom.
3) helaena and rhaenyra are practically strangers. the only moment in the book that can be considered an interaction between them was when rhaenyra was sort of mocking alicent and her children at court. helaena has no reason to choose to side with rhaenyra over the greens and rhaenyra doesn’t have any reason to show any favor towards helaena.
most of what u said would be more effective if u were talking abt aegon. at the very least he actually held the same position of power as rhaenyra.
Helaena was a QUEEN CONSORT. She wasn't a Rapunzel, it's time the fandom realizes that. She had the ability to run, or fight.
Helaena didn't go crazy, she was sane, she was mourning, though. But c'mon her husband was a rapist and she knew that.
Helaena knew about the fact of who was heir rightfully, she's not a lamb to the slaughter. She knew about the fact that Rhaenyra would accept her if she went to Dragonstone.
u lowkey being obtuse on purpose but i’ll expand on what i said so then maybe you understand.
helaena being queen consort in the green council—which weaponized misogyny— gave her very limited power. she was dependent on aegon’s hard headed ass listening to her advice, as opposed to rhaenyra who was the queen and had the final say on the decisions in her faction.
the only reason i brought up this difference in power is because you brought up lucerys, b&c, and tumbleton. rhaenyra, as queen, is going to be held more accountable for the actions of her men because she has a bigger hand and voice in the war. her men will carry out her rulings. the greens don’t follow helaena, they follow aegon.
helaena was explicitly stated to have gone mad in fire and blood. she was incapacitated. she stayed sane in hotd.
and yeah she knew who the rightful heir was, she could have ran or written in theory, but her mother was one of the heads of the coup. she might not like aegon but he’s the father of her children. once he was crowned, they were his immediate heirs.
helaena, in the books and the show, is close with her mother and puts her children above anything else. why should she betray her and put her kids in danger over “the rightful heir” that she more than likely doesn’t trust?
when rhaenyra wrote to the greens asking them to surrender, she was asking for aegon, aemond, and helaena, not just one of them. if only helaena went, aegon would still not have forfeited the throne and she and her children would probably become hostages at the mercy of the blacks.
its too big of a risk to take for a lady she dgaf about.
also, i never called her or implied she was a lamb to slaughter. i was only telling you that ur arguments fall apart easily when you stop seeing everything in black and white.
"helaena was explicitly stated to have gone mad in fire and blood. she was incapacitated. she stayed sane in hotd." After the death of her son, which she could've stopped
"when rhaenyra wrote to the greens asking them to surrender, she was asking for aegon, aemond, and helaena, not just one of them. if only helaena went, aegon would still not have forfeited the throne and she and her children would probably become hostages at the mercy of the blacks." She still would've welcomed Helaena with open arms, kissed her on the cheek and made her a part of the council.
"helaena, in the books and the show, is close with her mother and puts her children above anything else. why should she betray her and put her kids in danger over “the rightful heir” that she more than likely doesn’t trust?" Maybe because said rightful heir was her sister?
"its too big of a risk to take for a lady she dgaf about." Well why should Rhaenyra gaf about her? Why is B&C said to be most traumatic when Daeron actually had girls raped and killed?
it’s crazy how they consider a woman who ride the second biggest dragon a woman without choice. rhaena took her dragon and her child and escape when maegor was king, haelena could have done the same but she didnt, therefore she let her mother crown her and took part to aegon’s council. there is nothing in the book that suggested that she was against the usurpation = she shares the same role as the other greens as an accomplice. its was obvius that the consequences would have come for her too
"Helaena didn't OWE anything to Rhaenyra." So you said it, Helaena is a Green. Done. Okay. Do you not get that this can go vice versa? Wtf did Helaena do for Rhaenyra, hmm? Helaena legit sided with Aegon in the books, she didn't do nothing in the war either, although having a dragon, and she doesn't get hated for it. She doesn't get hated for Lucerys' death although Rhaenyra does get hate for B&C. One threat of rape to Helaena's daughter, and everyone freaks, but what about the women that were raped during the battle of Tumbleton? Helaena was a perfectly sane person in the books, she could've just wrote a letter to Rhaenyra. But she didn't. Helaena didn't deserve to die/go through trauma, but have you heard the line "witnessing a sin and not doing anything about it is also a sin."?
a lot of these arguments sorta fall apart when u take a moment to think and realize that
1) helaena was a consort, rhaenyra was a queen
2) helaena went crazy and spent the majority of the war locked in her room, likely oblivious to the specifics of what was happening across the kingdom.
3) helaena and rhaenyra are practically strangers. the only moment in the book that can be considered an interaction between them was when rhaenyra was sort of mocking alicent and her children at court. helaena has no reason to choose to side with rhaenyra over the greens and rhaenyra doesn’t have any reason to show any favor towards helaena.
most of what u said would be more effective if u were talking abt aegon. at the very least he actually held the same position of power as rhaenyra.
Helaena was a QUEEN CONSORT. She wasn't a Rapunzel, it's time the fandom realizes that. She had the ability to run, or fight.
Helaena didn't go crazy, she was sane, she was mourning, though. But c'mon her husband was a rapist and she knew that.
Helaena knew about the fact of who was heir rightfully, she's not a lamb to the slaughter. She knew about the fact that Rhaenyra would accept her if she went to Dragonstone.
u lowkey being obtuse on purpose but i’ll expand on what i said so then maybe you understand.
helaena being queen consort in the green council—which weaponized misogyny— gave her very limited power. she was dependent on aegon’s hard headed ass listening to her advice, as opposed to rhaenyra who was the queen and had the final say on the decisions in her faction.
the only reason i brought up this difference in power is because you brought up lucerys, b&c, and tumbleton. rhaenyra, as queen, is going to be held more accountable for the actions of her men because she has a bigger hand and voice in the war. her men will carry out her rulings. the greens don’t follow helaena, they follow aegon.
helaena was explicitly stated to have gone mad in fire and blood. she was incapacitated. she stayed sane in hotd.
and yeah she knew who the rightful heir was, she could have ran or written in theory, but her mother was one of the heads of the coup. she might not like aegon but he’s the father of her children. once he was crowned, they were his immediate heirs.
helaena, in the books and the show, is close with her mother and puts her children above anything else. why should she betray her and put her kids in danger over “the rightful heir” that she more than likely doesn’t trust?
when rhaenyra wrote to the greens asking them to surrender, she was asking for aegon, aemond, and helaena, not just one of them. if only helaena went, aegon would still not have forfeited the throne and she and her children would probably become hostages at the mercy of the blacks.
its too big of a risk to take for a lady she dgaf about.
also, i never called her or implied she was a lamb to slaughter. i was only telling you that ur arguments fall apart easily when you stop seeing everything in black and white.
"helaena was explicitly stated to have gone mad in fire and blood. she was incapacitated. she stayed sane in hotd." After the death of her son, which she could've stopped
"when rhaenyra wrote to the greens asking them to surrender, she was asking for aegon, aemond, and helaena, not just one of them. if only helaena went, aegon would still not have forfeited the throne and she and her children would probably become hostages at the mercy of the blacks." She still would've welcomed Helaena with open arms, kissed her on the cheek and made her a part of the council.
"helaena, in the books and the show, is close with her mother and puts her children above anything else. why should she betray her and put her kids in danger over “the rightful heir” that she more than likely doesn’t trust?" Maybe because said rightful heir was her sister?
"its too big of a risk to take for a lady she dgaf about." Well why should Rhaenyra gaf about her? Why is B&C said to be most traumatic when Daeron actually had girls raped and killed?
They love seeing inaccurate stuff until it's about their team. They love to act like Aegon wasn't a rapist. And this is probably inaccurate since Rhaenys would've wanted to go alone. She was Rhaenys "put me in check my queen" Targaryen pls
Via ASOIAF.westeros.org website :
“Meleys died in the attack, and besides her carcass, a body was found which was believed to be Rhaenys, although it was so blackened that no one could be certain it was her. Her husband, Corlys Velaryon, was enraged that Rhaenyra had sent Rhaenys instead of going herself, and that Rhaenyra had forbidden her sons Jacaerys and Joffrey from accompanying Rhaenys.”
I cannot find that specific fight in the Fire & Blood book. Maybe it’s in a different one. 🤷🏻♀️
I’m Team Black, but I love Aemond. Idgaf
It's not in F&B lmao- (I'm saying this kindly, I'm very nice)
They love seeing inaccurate stuff until it's about their team. They love to act like Aegon wasn't a rapist. And this is probably inaccurate since Rhaenys would've wanted to go alone. She was Rhaenys "put me in check my queen" Targaryen pls
They want to see inner team beef until it's aemond "the crown looks better on me" Targaryen wanting the crown to himself lol
Yeah cuz Aemond is bbg blah blah. Ngl I personally like Aemond (in a way yeah yeah) but like morally fuck that dude
"Helaena didn't OWE anything to Rhaenyra." So you said it, Helaena is a Green. Done. Okay. Do you not get that this can go vice versa? Wtf did Helaena do for Rhaenyra, hmm? Helaena legit sided with Aegon in the books, she didn't do nothing in the war either, although having a dragon, and she doesn't get hated for it. She doesn't get hated for Lucerys' death although Rhaenyra does get hate for B&C. One threat of rape to Helaena's daughter, and everyone freaks, but what about the women that were raped during the battle of Tumbleton? Helaena was a perfectly sane person in the books, she could've just wrote a letter to Rhaenyra. But she didn't. Helaena didn't deserve to die/go through trauma, but have you heard the line "witnessing a sin and not doing anything about it is also a sin."?
a lot of these arguments sorta fall apart when u take a moment to think and realize that
1) helaena was a consort, rhaenyra was a queen
2) helaena went crazy and spent the majority of the war locked in her room, likely oblivious to the specifics of what was happening across the kingdom.
3) helaena and rhaenyra are practically strangers. the only moment in the book that can be considered an interaction between them was when rhaenyra was sort of mocking alicent and her children at court. helaena has no reason to choose to side with rhaenyra over the greens and rhaenyra doesn’t have any reason to show any favor towards helaena.
most of what u said would be more effective if u were talking abt aegon. at the very least he actually held the same position of power as rhaenyra.
Helaena was a QUEEN CONSORT. She wasn't a Rapunzel, it's time the fandom realizes that. She had the ability to run, or fight.
Helaena didn't go crazy, she was sane, she was mourning, though. But c'mon her husband was a rapist and she knew that.
Helaena knew about the fact of who was heir rightfully, she's not a lamb to the slaughter. She knew about the fact that Rhaenyra would accept her if she went to Dragonstone.
shure shure..
We call Targtowers "Hightowers" cause they were raised as Hightowers DUMBASS
They love seeing inaccurate stuff until it's about their team. They love to act like Aegon wasn't a rapist. And this is probably inaccurate since Rhaenys would've wanted to go alone. She was Rhaenys "put me in check my queen" Targaryen pls
"But oh what they've done to my girl."
Them? You heard some bullshit, and when on to put your rapist on the throne and you have the audacity to say THEY'VE?
