Vinod Chanda Analysis Masterpost
Originally posted to the Pantheon Discord, some of the analyses I have written about Vinod Chanda will now be available to read here! Not in chronological order (of being posted).
Spoilers ahead!
1. Chanda Cares For Other People
One of Chanda’s most positive traits is how he cares for other people, despite the lengths he’d go to show it.
He managed to maintain a good relationship with his parents, as they were his closest connections. He doesn’t want his mother to learn of his fate for the sake of her mental well-being.
His overall goal is to establish a utopian society, and now that he’s an Uploaded Intelligence, Chanda goes to extreme lengths to make sure the UIs live in a world where they could live in peace and freedom. This caring nature is the gist of why he’s disillusioned in humanity; believing that humans are cowardly and cruel while UIs are innocent, yet godlike beings, the latter being a trauma response. If it means that the UIs could live in harmony, Chanda would take a million lives; even if he cared for those lives. He cares even less for humanity and cares a lot about the UIs due to his loss of faith in humanity, but eventually, he ends up caring for both once it’s all resolved. How? When he sees a human, Ellen, acknowledge that UIs need protection too. An act of compassion from an embodied being was enough; he began to care for humanity as much as he’d care for the other uploads.
As Chanda developed a close bond with Ping in between seasons, it’s shown that he cares for Ping. He doesn’t want Ping to leak Caspian’s identity online for fear of his safety, but eventually, Ping’s death for doing that in the hands of Holstrom made Chanda betray him, taking his love for Ping, whom he learned a lot from more than Holstrom, over further loyalty to Holstrom. Even if it means staying alive. He would rather die than serve the man who killed his beloved.
Chanda’s caring nature allows him to think of how much people care for the ones they love. He uses it against his enemies, most notably when killing Prasad and his family in his revenge and threatening David with a nuke aimed at Sacramento, his home city so that he doesn’t send Laurie’s message.
2. Chanda And Destiny
Chanda's arc is even more emotionally devastating when you realize that Chanda reframed the trauma he’s undergone as a source of purpose. He feels contempt and anger for being murdered, enslaved, and isolated; he loses faith in humanity for that, but he also sees that as a way to regain his sense of purpose. It's his coping mechanism; he believes he underwent all this suffering for a purpose: to keep creating and to continue working on that digital paradise. Chanda sees that his circumstances (hence the "destiny" line) have shown that he's meant for something greater. Uploaded to keep working due to his brilliance. Saved so that he could save "all of them." Add in the unhealed trauma. He does this so he can't be victimized any longer due to being seen as something lesser, but he'd rather acknowledge the greater reasons why he was seen as lesser. As a way to prove that there was meaning in his suffering. He's undergoing two stages of grief at the same time: denial (not acknowledging it was exploitation because he doesn’t want to be seen as powerless; he’s been put in a position like that and refuses to be further again) and anger. Chanda hates Prasad for making him a helpless victim (hence the revenge) but also acknowledges that he knows how brilliant he (Chanda) is. And he finds meaning in that. He's angry at the world because, of course, Prasad made him a helpless victim and used him as a tool. He's seen the worst of humanity. He was also left alone, with no one but the mute Clan.
All of this is because Chanda never wants to be powerless; especially since he’s been put into such situations, and refuses to be put into one even further. He is a victim, but he refuses to let that define him.
3. Chanda’s Character Designs
In his very first scene, we see Chanda in an outfit I'd describe as the “typical corporate meeting” outfit that's rather neat and quite “humble-looking”, representing Chanda as the idealist who thinks he's just an engineer- as he said to another person who referred to him as the “second coming of Nostradamus.” This represents a Chanda who's unaware- in the sense that he's idealistic and rather naive about UI’s effects on humanity, and also in the sense that he was unaware of what was to come: when he entered the wrong vehicle and got drugged, sent off to be uploaded.
And when he's first uploaded, Chanda’s clad in a work uniform with a white shirt and khaki pants as he undergoes an infinite workday. Given he used this design when he met Laurie and David to make himself look more sympathetic and “humble”, this represents Chanda as a victim- of exploitation and non-consensual uploading. In Episode 6 when Chanda explains his motivations to Laurie and David, he's in that outfit to show that in sharp contrast to his words, Chanda was a victim; and he wasn't a god either, despite how much he denied his victimhood through that destiny narrative he's crafted for himself and how much he thinks he's above humanity.
We also see Chanda in a suit- it might be what Chanda wore to a formal event or maybe one of his “greatest moments” in his life. It represents Chanda, still an idealistic engineer with his vision of a better world, but at the same time, a cynic about how humanity would see UIs. Unlike his first design, which represents a Chanda who thinks he's just an engineer, this represents a Chanda who thinks he's more than just an engineer- and that he was meant for something greater, as he's wearing an outfit that he might have worn to one of his “best moments” in life. But the suit also represents how Chanda became as bad as his boss Prasad- they were both willing to do whatever it takes for their goals. The suit is in a different color than Prasad’s to show that yes, Chanda might not be like Prasad in certain ways and he might think that he's better than he is, but he's as bad as he is.
Next, and during the moment he kills Laurie, we see Chanda gain an appearance reminiscent of a monk in an RPG. The fantasy aspect of this design shows how Chanda thinks he's above humanity- that he's transcended. As in most RPGs, people play heroes, Chanda takes on this form because he sees himself as a savior and a protector- like the player characters of most RPGs. In the scene he switches to this form, it’s when he kills Laurie because it shows that as a “savior”, Chanda will do anything to protect his kind. That was why he was against Laurie and prevented her from going public- in fear that she'd expose the existence of UIs to most of humanity and lead them to be hunted down. He kills her because he “didn't have a choice”- Chanda sees himself as a hero doing whatever it takes for the good of his kind. He believes the ends justify the means.
After receiving Holstrom’s cure, Chanda gains an appearance where he's a demon. This is what I describe as a “reality check in makeover form”, forced to see how monstrous he was when he believed he was a god and a savior, abandoning everything that made him human. Though he might be a demon in terms of appearance, Chanda’s in this design once he starts working against Holstrom because it represents his worldview breaking apart, given how with this design, Chanda’s forced to see how monstrous he was and how his views about humans, UIs, and power change. When placed against Holstrom’s design, this is meant to show that Chanda, despite his current look, has more humanity than Holstrom despite how Holstrom looks.
4. Chanda and Laurie
Laurie Lowell and Vinod Chanda were both brilliant people, though they were both in different fields. Laurie in the stock market and Chanda in computer engineering. They were both unwillingly uploaded (though in Laurie’s case she was in a coma and her husband consented to her being uploaded, while Chanda was drugged, kidnapped, and then uploaded while awake), and they both took different, contrasting approaches to human-UI relations due to their different life experiences. Laurie has a more hopeful and pacifistic approach to human-UI relations, stating that she believes in humanity’s potential to accept UIs and the abilities of a UI to be used for good because while she might have been alone, she wasn’t lonely because after breaking free, her husband helped her in her new uploaded life and this led to her not wanting to be brought back because she wouldn’t love him the same way she does now. Chanda, on the contrary, takes a cynical and aggressive approach because of his trauma and loneliness. His mother doesn’t know he was uploaded, the Clan can’t speak to him, and he was murdered (as an embodied human) then enslaved. The brutal way he’s uploaded- combined with his loneliness, causes him to not trust humanity with the existence of uploads, fearing that they’d all be hunted down should the existence of UIs be revealed. Laurie even sees herself as human/no different from humanity while Chanda sees himself as above humanity because it’s a trauma response to being exploited by his boss.
5. Vinod Chanda and Free Will
Chanda was uploaded against his will, while he was awake. It was to “keep him working”— *enslave him*. Trap him in an infinite workday scenario, writing patents and getting the same call from Amma every day until the Clan came in. Though Chanda was free— he still didn’t believe he was. The upload process is irreversible; he can never find a way back to the embodied world. Hence why he told Prasad “how is *this* free?”
Then, he was alone without a purpose after taking revenge. He called Amma. But she couldn’t know the truth. He’s alone once more; without a purpose. It almost drove him insane, until he realized it was “destiny.” That he was meant for something greater- to save the UIs, and lead them to his digital paradise. Chanda believed he was meant to bring the world he dreamed of about. So… for others to live there, he sends the scanner plans to the six agencies.
Though Chanda wanted to liberate the other UIs— he didn’t believe in free will, hence the “it was destiny” narrative he’s crafted for himself. His worldview was deterministic— if he was uploaded, then saved by the Clan, was it for something? Or was it destiny in motion? Then to him— it’s destiny in motion. The existential crisis he receives after being uploaded against his will and enslaved led to his deterministic, “I-was-chosen-by-Prasad” worldview. His version of freedom has the other UIs be led to his paradise— them being shown “another way.” He wants to liberate them— by making them come to a world they might not want. (Laurie: Who says they’ll want to? Hell, some of these places might have volunteers *lining up to serve their countries.*)
This leads Chanda to go full-on messiah. Then, after the events of Season 1, Chanda is trapped with the Chinese UIs in the CPU of a satellite. Han Ping, one of them, reminds Chanda that he can make a choice for himself— that there is free will. He doesn’t have to make choices out of desperation or destiny, he can make a choice for himself. When Chanda learned that Ping went up against the CCP because he *was* a communist, believing the CCP has lost its way, he learned that the world isn’t just black and white. Upon learning that Ping turned from Holstrom not out of desperation but because he saw how Holstrom truly was, he learned that *he can make a choice.* Through Ping, Chanda also learned about the value of principles over power— that he doesn’t have to be convinced he was the messiah, or a god. He doesn’t have to be guided by a pursuit of power.
Chanda, out of grief and what he’s learned from Ping (and what Ellen showed him), turns from Holstrom because he saw that Holstrom never truly cared for anyone— only himself. He relies on his destiny narrative no more— he’s guided by his principles now. He makes a choice to defy Holstrom and warn the others of Holstrom’s plan to unleash a new pandemic and force everyone to upload, risk everything for the defeat of Holstrom and a world where humans and UIs can coexist, unite the other UIs against Holstrom, and “save himself” by fighting Holstrom. It isn’t out of selfishness that Chanda would save himself; it’s more about saving himself from the person he would’ve become if he stayed on Holstrom’s side and never listened to Ping. Then, Chanda smirks as he dies— though he was defeated, he chose not to relish it, but rather smirk (in acceptance of his fate) and die on his own terms.
6. An extensive analysis of Chanda’s motivations
Once an idealistic patent engineer researching Uploaded Intelligence, Vinod Chanda had a naive, yet innocent and hopeful nature. He always believed in a better world and wanted UI technology to be used in a way that benefits humanity. He wanted UIs to be the new workforce so humanity could sit back and relax. Though he wasn’t 100% ethical at that time (due to idealism and the fact that as far as he knew at that time UI technology was just being researched and developed), he still meant well.
After being made into an Uploaded Intelligence against his will while conscious, being put in an infinite workday scenario, and being freed by the Clan, Alliance Telecom’s previous uploads who were their test subjects, Vinod Chanda swore revenge and wanted to hurt Prasad by any means necessary. He struggled with anger issues since he was very young, punching walls and later taking up boxing to help with it. He could’ve gone to a virtual rage space— but he knew it wasn’t enough. For such a cruel crime, Chanda wanted Prasad to SCREAM. Not just scream, but scream as he lost everything, witnessing horrors as intense as what Chanda went through with the fire on his tower and the death of his family.
Then, Chanda was alone. He had difficulty connecting with other people before; but the loneliness he was in after his revenge was on a new level. He didn't know of any other UI but the mute Clan. And then, he called his mother, telling her of how alone and without a purpose he felt. He was in an empty universe that felt so small yet so infinite at the same time, with a loneliness that felt eternal, and trying to seek a purpose as he didn't have one after his revenge. That was enough to nearly drive him insane, taking drastic measures to make sure he wasn't alone. And so, he sent the scanner plans to the governments of the USA, UK, China, Russia, Israel, and Iran. But loneliness wasn't the only reason he'd do that…
Revenge and grief left Chanda so lost and lonely without a purpose, so in pain, he found one: he believes that Prasad “chose” him and that everything that happened to him was destiny in motion because his belief in free will was diminished (quoting Chanda, “how is this… free?”) and because he knew the truth of what happened was so horrific— he refused to accept it, and used it to get Laurie and David to sympathize with him, he lived in denial that escalated into delusion. That was how strong it was. His job was to develop patents— essentially specializing in the technical aspects of a patent for new inventions. He was kept working, so he believed he was always chosen to be this messianic figure who’d bring the future about— his vision of a future. Well, Chanda always believed in a better world. But who should bring it about, at least in his eyes? Vinod Chanda himself.
And for people to inhabit the new world he’s built, he sent the UI technology to six rival governments to begin an arms race. He plans to lead the UIs made in the arms race to his new world, where they can live in peace and freedom, as he says. They will be sent out to war— but they will meet Chanda instead, who will lead them to his new world. He also says he wants to free them. Free them from… the governments he’s sent the tech to. This paradox (like I said in a previous analysis) is intentional, as Chanda has a deterministic worldview yet still wants to be a liberator, leading his UI brothers and sisters to a new world. And by “free them”, he means “free them into *my* vision of a new world.” Additionally, Chanda puts them on the same path he was put on: “destiny in motion.” First, the soon-to-be UI would be uploaded, “sent off to war”, and then they’d meet Chanda who’d “show them another way”. Because Chanda believes in destiny. Not free will, hence why he’s not respecting the other UI’s free will to choose a path aside from the one he’s leading them to and how he's questioned on if those UIs “want to.” His deterministic worldview is also shown in how he justifies his killing of Laurie and his threat to David in a “you left me no choice” type of way.
A thing about Chanda is that he’s genuinely ashamed of what heinous deeds he does. That’s why he felt regretful about the Prasads (but also said he wasn’t a murderer) and feels like he has “no choice”. It’s not just because his worldview is deterministic. He refused to tell his mother the truth because of what he’s done, not just about what happened to him. He justifies and denies because of how ashamed he feels about what he’s done. He’s refusing to acknowledge the weight of his actions, so much so that he denies it. He couldn’t bear to see himself as a villain for what he’s done— so, he justifies his horrible actions by claiming they were necessary evils. Chanda builds himself on denial— so much that the denial became delusion. If denial is an ocean, Chanda drowned in it.
I think that, with how he even joined Laurie and David in warning the other UIs from the government about the flaw, Chanda has a tinge of shame and regret about sending the UI scanner plans. He still wants to show them another way (lead them into his vision), yes, but I think, after Laurie and David told him everything about the flaw and the consequences of his actions, Chanda decided it was time for him to channel his shame into fixing the mess he’s made by working with Laurie and David, though a messy alliance, under a common cause: saving the UIs, warning them about the flaw, and doing what their governments couldn’t. He even feels like he doesn’t have a choice but to kill Laurie (and he looked quite… unhappy doing it)— and says to David that they could’ve been great. He still thought that UIs were above humanity, but he still knew they were vulnerable, given the flaw and how humanity would hunt them down. This was a driving point in his extremism: with what he now knows, Chanda will do anything to protect and save his kind. It’s his way of fixing the mess he's put them in— by giving them peace and freedom, turning their hell into a heaven. At least in his eyes.
His vision of “peace and freedom” involved making those UIs live like mythological beings in an isolated civilization. If you’re familiar with Filipino folklore, Chanda wanted the UIs to live in a “Biringan City” of sorts. (For those who do not know, Biringan City in our folklore is an invisible, highly advanced city home to the Engkanto— mythical spirits.) Because he saw UIs as mythological beings— gods, to say the least. And he wanted the others to know that. Chanda saw UIs as above humanity because to him, humanity is but a cowardly and violent species, who’d terminate the UIs no matter where they hide. To him, humans will never understand and instead, they will hunt and kill them all. Because one of the last things Chanda went through as an embodied human was… being targeted by Prasad by being led into the wrong car and being drugged, for his eventual upload. As for his mother, he wouldn’t tell her the truth because knowing that her husband (who is also Chanda’s father) had already passed away before the events of the story, he thinks he shouldn’t make her grief worse. Also because of what he’s done— from his shame about the Prasads and his “I have no choice” mindset, we can indicate that Chanda felt ashamed to tell her about what he’s done. Grief aside, that can be why the truth would “upset her too much.” Though Chanda has, at that point, lost faith in a significant portion of humanity, he cares for the ones he’s close to. And UIs? They are above that! But he still knew UIs were vulnerable to things like the integrity flaw, which would kill a UI the more processing power they used. That flaw was what made the Clan unable to speak. This caused great friction with Laurie Lowell and David Kim, both of whom are UI defenders of humanity. The former wanted to send a personalized message in hopes of peace for humans and UIs. And with that, she’d expose their (the UIs) existence, leading to her death in Chanda’s hands. David was threatened by Chanda with a nuke because he copied Laurie’s message, but he managed to redirect Chanda’s nuke and sacrifice himself to send Laurie’s message.
For the time he spent at the satellite after the final battle of the first season, Chanda learned so much from He Ping. With what Ping told him, that Ping was not a democracy activist, but rather a communist sent to prison for what he believed in, Chanda learned that if it wasn’t democracy vs communism, the world might not be black and white. When Ping told Chanda he chose to upload not because he served the party but because he served what China genuinely stood for, Chanda began to realize that, of course, people can choose. Ping believed that principles must come first before power. And that came to change Chanda later.
Chanda and Ping served Stephen Holstrom, whose preserved brain was uploaded after Caspian cracked integrity. Though Ping knew there was something with Holstrom with how he killed Zhong Shuchun (an ally of Ping and Chanda) and gave Ping and Chanda a botched cure to the flaw even if they knew the real one was out there, Chanda didn’t truly turn from Holstrom until he killed Ping. That was the turning point— because that was the hard way Chanda saw who Holstrom really was. Before that, he did things (like checking backdoors) behind Holstrom’s back and saw an interview from Ellen Kim (who happens to be David Kim’s WIDOW and the mother of Maddie Kim) that made him realize that humanity wasn’t as bad as he thought. But the death of Ping was enough to make him fully turn— no more sucking up, no more UI supremacist worldviews, no more self-preservation, no more hatred, yes to principles, yes to coexistence, yes to peace, yes to playing an active role in fixing and saving himself from the mess he's made. (Thanks to Queen for this insight. Had it not been for Pantheoncord in general, I would've never come to my current knowledge of Chanda.)
Ping, with his influence through his conversations with Chanda and his principled nature, changed Chanda— Chanda then grew into a mediator, taking principles over power and seeking coexistence between humans and UIs now that he’s turned from Holstrom, learned from Ping, and realized the potential for compassion in humanity. His UI supremacist, isolationist, and deterministic worldviews were no more. He began to believe in genuine choice; not destiny. He’s grown past those delusions. I said earlier that if denial is an ocean, Chanda drowned in it, but Ping rescued him. He showed Chanda that he can make a choice. He showed Chanda that principles are what ultimately matter. He showed Chanda the world wasn't black and white. And in the end, he played a vital role in Chanda’s turn from Holstrom— his actions encouraged Chanda to stop wallowing in his denial and shame, and actively channel it into fixing the mess he's made and making the world a better place. When Holstrom showed Chanda that UIs could be as bad as he thought that humanity could be and Ellen showed Chanda that humanity has the capacity for compassion, Chanda’s views changed. Before, he wanted to force others into his vision. Now he fights against a plan to force others into a certain vision— he warns Ellen (and Peter Waxman) about Holstrom’s plan to start a pandemic to force humanity to upload.
When Ellen tells him he attempted to nuke her family, he tells her he never thought it would go that far (in the “at that time I never thought I’d go as far as to nuke your family; I definitely went too far" type of way). Instead of running from what he’s done, he outright says “I would’ve never described myself that way but I understand why others might” when someone says he’s a terrorist. Instead of being built on more denial— he’s over it. He’s guided by denial no more, he’s guided by principles, over the shame of what he’s done. But he chose not to wallow in it, he’s channeling it into fixing the mess he’s made— which now includes the results of his extreme actions, the general mess he’s made.
When Ellen told him he had to risk more for a future where humans and UIs can coexist— Chanda risked more than he did to call her, earning her trust. And he risked more and more to save himself from the mess he’s made and what he could’ve been by fighting Holstrom with Yair and Farhad— who were once enemies, but were convinced to fight Holstrom together with him. Though the three didn’t win, and Yair and Farhad were spared, Chanda died with a smirk. Even if he dies, he knows he’s dying for what he believes in, not sucking it up to Holstrom even further and living without principles. In the end, he was guided not by delusions of grandeur, but by principles.
Vinod Chanda is a complex character. Even though his actions could be contradictory— they could make sense when one goes deeper into his character. He’s a brilliant man guided by emotion, an idealist and a cynic at the same time, a man who considered himself a “liberator” who didn't believe in free will… Chanda’s character might not make sense to some due to its complexity, but Chanda’s primary driving goal throughout the show is the pursuit of a better world, going from a hopeful, idealistic engineer, rogue terrorist with a messiah complex, to a man taking principles over power— and trying everything he can to fix the mess he's made, seeking peace and working against a plan that seemed in line with his past self’s vision.
7. Vinod Chanda and Principles
It is shown throughout the first season that Chanda takes power over principles. He did anything for his vision of a better world; he fought for UI liberation, among other things as well, but when he sent the UI technology to the USA, Russia, Iran, Israel, China, and the United Kingdom, he let these six nations’ agencies imprison their UIs to begin with; he gave the masters their shackles he wants to break. In sending the tech, not only did he break that principle of his, but he broke another one too: his principle of UI protection. His goal was to not let the world know of the existence of UIs for their safety, but he did let the world know by sending the technology to those six superpowers. Even if he did it anonymously and knew they'd keep it a secret. He breaks his principles to pursue his agenda in the way that he says he's got no choice but to break them for the better world he wants. Case in point, Laurie’s death and the attempted nuke on Sacramento, both of which Chanda says he was forced to do; while he didn't have a choice, he still broke them because he didn't have a choice but to. Laurie is the first successful UI, and Chanda sets his pro-UI views aside to kill her and prevent her from exposing UIs to the world. While Chanda did not want to destroy Sacramento, where David’s servers are, he used a nuclear threat so he'd threaten David into self-deletion; he broke his principles here too because he forced David, a UI, to self-delete and when he launched it in the middle of a battle, he ultimately broke his principle of UI protection in the way that his move would cause the extermination of UIs. Chanda’s story shows that his trauma and loneliness, which led to his rigid worldview, have pushed him to abandon his principles in favor of power.
But time with Ping changed that.
In between seasons, Chanda spent time in the CPU of a satellite with him. Ping has a principled approach to things, as shown in the reason he was thrown in jail (communist who spoke out against the CCP for abandoning their ways and becoming capitalistic) and when he leaks Caspian’s identity online because he knows Holstrom doesn't care for him or Chanda. Ping is killed for that, and it shows that even in death, Ping stands for what he believes in. The death of his best friend; his closest connection after upload, caused him to realize the value of principles; it also showed him that power wasn't what truly mattered, but principles do. Ping being killed was the moment his rigid worldview finally broke down, aside from seeing an interview with Ellen before where she defended UIs. Holstrom showed him that UIs could be just as cruel as the humans he's sought to protect his kind from, and Ellen showed him that humans have the capacity for compassion too. He ends up betraying Holstrom after that because not only did he regain faith in humanity beforehand, he'd rather risk a lot than suck it up to a man who'd take power over principles; a man like Holstrom. And Chanda’s death, though unceremonious, is what truly showed he'd risk a lot for what he believes in. He died fighting for a better world. He died unceremoniously, yes, but however it serves as a reminder that Chanda has taken his principles over power. His death also shows us that Chanda would of course, set power aside and risk everything for what he believes in.
Chanda becomes a man who would sacrifice his principles for a better world to a man who’d stand by his principles to the very end after seeing the value in them. He realizes that in pursuit of a better world, principles matter too. I love this development.
8. Regarding the paradox…
Before I start, credits to u/RTSBaseBuilder for the meme. This isn’t too dissimilar to my last brick on free will, but I’ve decided to go on a deep dive on a paradox surrounding Chanda.
This paradox is intentional, since as freedom is a theme of Pantheon, they explore it in an interesting way with Chanda: Though Chanda does believe in freedom (his way of freedom— take note that his worldview is deterministic), he’s the same one who sent the governments the UI tech to begin with— being liberator and enslaver at the same time. And while he wants those UIs to live in peace and freedom, it’s clear that not all of them are subscribed to his vision, despite his good intentions. Hell, Laurie even asks him if those UIs want to. Chanda only began to believe in genuine freedom, including free will by the time Ping died— the same time he changed for the better, and came against a plan to force everyone to upload.
And here’s how I think Chanda sees military intelligence agencies:
He thinks they’d upload their best, smartest individuals, as he knows that they wouldn’t put waste to their assets. He plans to use their exploitativeness to his advantage— use it to lead the other UIs to a world of peace and freedom. It’s him repeating older patterns from his boss, but I think he’s that type of person who’d say he’s more “ethical” since those who are being uploaded by the agencies knew they would be uploaded, and were asleep for the process.
Chanda is a misguided idealist. His desire for a better world is tainted by what came from his trauma and loneliness. Only by having his views that resulted from his trauma and loneliness challenged does his vision become untainted.
