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[chamomileteah]

Of little worry

pairings: ormund hightower x wife reader

summary: people are asking about an heir when your marriage just begins six months ago

c/w: this is not dark or canon ormund, he's a dream husband here, protective husband stance, just fluff, not talking about heavy stuff

Your marriage with Ormund has been starting off good at the beginning, even at betrothal. There's not been a huge issue with him, he tries to be the best man that he is and holds your hand as he gently asks what causes that little pout in your face which you always deny isn't there. You are blessed to have him as your husband, the freshly given position not once reducing the man you know before the ceremony.

He takes things cautiously, always careful with planning and consideration to you. And in the days before you're announced as husband and wife before the Sept, he made it clear that he wanted the early days to be yours alone, knowing each other deeper and exploring the vulnerable pieces people only discover when they're in the early sunlight of a marriage. That being plain that he doesn't want both of you to rush in the matter of a child.

You have no doubt in his sayings. But it settles in your chest differently when he openly defends you when someone dares question it to you in front of him.

It's a guest staying in Old Town after a successful alliance with House Hightower. Both sides are content and accepting of the final decision of the discussion, though there was a slight tension in the middle of it.

As the Lord of Oldtown, it becomes Ormund's obligation to host the supper for the guest, with you introducing the famous dish at your husband's side. They look pleased and you both exchange glances in triumph as you sit on the dinner chair.

Small talks are made, conversation chattered as the clinking of forks against the plates fill the hearty room. Only when the wife of the lord turns her head to you, look at you intently with her cruel smile as she asks you a question.

"Your marriage is truly favored by the Gods, it only leaves us to a gap that causes us nothing but sincere concern."

You continue cutting your meat, its taste is customized to your preference since the first week you stay as the lady of the house. The cooks and the servants adore you, the light and easy way you manage the household, efficient yet kind to them. Some of them theatrically praise you and your husband, saying woven together by God. You only manage a small smile, yet deeply grateful you're surrounded by benevolent companies that welcomes your new presence at their service with willingness.

You don't bother yourself to answer the double meaning question, completely peaceful just enjoying your supper, knowing where the intention leads.

"That's very thoughtful of you to concern yourself with us. Pray, tell me, my lady. What troubles you?" Ormund says with a calm voice.

"It is that Old Town is in its glory in your hand, my lord. It leaves one wondering whether we'll ever see the heir to continue your legacy." She continues, her husband doesn't seem to be interested in what she's doing, not stopping yet not disagreeing.

Ormund straightens his posture, giving them a small smile as he pours their glass with more wine in a perfectly collected manner.

"I'm sure the Gods will show us their benison when the time comes."

He looks at her husband, then directly into her face.

"Your concern honors me, my lady, yet I ask that you set it aside. Let us continue the supper."

The underlying warning in his seemingly courteous tone makes your lips lift slightly, which you cover with the doublet as you sip your wine.

Not satisfied with what your husband gives her, she takes turns to stare at you, her gaze grows bolder, not as subtle as before.

"I was hoping my lady would be so kind to shed light on the matter." She says with more emphasis in her tone as she addresses you.

You pass a neatly folded napkin across your mouth, the movements unhurried.

"I fear it is not a complicated reason. Lord Ormund never once burdens me with the pressure of an heir. You are right, he's an outstanding lord and head of the house. Above all else, he's a good lord husband."

At your straightforward explanation, Ormund catches the unspoken attitude at the end of it.

He is my husband. Need I say more?

He can't help the amusement in his features, though he tries to keep it down. His hand finds yours under the table, your fingers tangle perfectly like they always have, his thumb graze tenderly on your palm.

Not to console you, he knows the comments don't even rattle you, and it warms his heart at how much trust you place on him, how his words resolve in your very being, give you the certainty that he surely is by your side.

The lady does not form a further reply, instead busying herself with her meal as she avoids your eyes.

"You should try the meat, my lady, the cooks prepared it to my usual taste."

The hour is late and you already retire to your chamber that you share with Ormund. To be fair, you only require yours for dressing, but you spend the night clinging to the sheets in the arms of your husband.

You stand in the mirror, untangle the braids of your hair, already in the nightgown.

At the reflection, you trail the movement of his as he enters and makes way to you.

"Let me." His voice grows quieter and lower in the dark of night, his hands carefully draw apart the woven strands of your hair.

"It was quite an eventful supper."

"It certainly was."

You relax under his touch. "Do you think they like the seasoning of the meat? It was also the tender and—the texture was just perfect."

He shakes his head slightly at your antics.

"Yes, I'm sure they like the meal that you had the cooks prepared specifically to your preference." Ormund lightly grabs your shoulder to turn you around and face him, while his palms rest comfortably at your waist.

"You are hardly one to make that claim. Who ate two portions of them last week?"

You place your hand on his chest, still covered with his doublet. You tease, remind him of his not so poised behavior as he asks the servant to bring him another plate.

"Ah, this is nowhere getting fair. We should retire for the night before you throw another record of my rather unbecoming manners."

You raise your brows. "Using an excuse when you're already losing? That's not what one can call dignify, lord husband."

"Who says anything about dignified?" His eyes crinkle in that lovely shape you adore, his sweet smile forming on his lips, clearly proud of his little unseemly jest.

You can't help your laugh at his poor attempt, the effect always drops to funny moments rather than seductive atmospheres. He laughs along with you, pulling your body closer to his.

"We won't have that tonight then."

You say in final as you pull down his doublet and press your lips to his. He responds instinctively, his head leans to the side, allowing him to take more of you, as his hand caresses the low of your back through the nightgown. And you know deep in your heart that you are safe with him and he'll stand beside you without question, tonight was only one little proof of his unshakeable constancy.

a/n: first ormund fic is done, would love to hear your opinions in the comments!

[sansa-stark-is-me]

Was peacefully scrolling on tiktok until I found some post from about a month ago "cancelling" you. Came back to your page and just spam liked more of your right takes ☺️🙏

We all love you girl for preaching the real!!

Anyways— I was wondering if you read the mad king play spoilers. If so, did you have any thoughts in particular? I for one found myself incredibly annoyed they legit lobotomized Elia (obvs won’t go into details if ur avoiding the spillers) but since ik you mainly post abt F&B/Cat, feel free to ignore this :)

@erenshot Thank you! The funniest part is that they’ve spent weeks trying to “cancel” me, making dozens of slideshows, stalking my posts, and sending them around to other platforms, sending rape/death threats… and all it seems to do is bring more people to my page who actually read what I say instead of believing some bs. I appreciate you taking the time to look for yourself instead of just accepting someone else’s false accusations about me. It means a lot.

Yeah, I’ve seen some of the spoilers. Without getting into specifics for anyone who wants to stay spoiler-free, I definitely have mixed feelings.

I think people are jumping the gun a bit by saying, “GRRM was involved, therefore it’s canon.” By that logic, we’d have to treat GOT and HOTD as book canon too, because George was involved with both to varying degrees. But almost nobody including George himself does that. He’s repeatedly pointed out that adaptations are adaptations, and they inevitably diverge from the books.

His involvement definitely makes the play more interesting and probably means some of its ideas came from him. But that isn’t the same thing as saying every reveal or scene is automatically book canon. I’m just going to wait and see what George says himself, if he says anything at all. Maybe he’ll write about it on his blog, maybe he won’t. Until then, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to treat the play as its own adaptation rather than immediately declaring every spoiler to be confirmed book lore.

Now, if we’re specifically talking about Lyanna Stark, Elia Martell, and Rhaegar, I think we first have to ask what George was actually trying to do with those characters in the books.

The prophecy is obviously important, but I don’t think it’s the only point of their story.

The point of Rhaegar story:

To me, Rhaegar isn’t just a tragic prince he’s a warning about the danger of believing that destiny places you above ordinary moral obligations. He may genuinely have wanted to save the world, but if he repeatedly justified harmful choices because he believed prophecy demanded them, then ASOIAF asks whether good intentions are enough.

One of George’s recurring themes is that intentions matter. It’s not enough to arrive at the right outcome; how and why you get there matters too. That’s why characters are forced to make impossible moral choices rather than simply following fate. If Jon ultimately helps save the world, does that automatically justify everything Rhaegar did? Does the existence of a greater good erase the suffering of Elia, her children, Lyanna, Rickard, Brandon, or the thousands who died during Robert’s Rebellion? I don’t think George wants us to answer “yes” without hesitation.

That’s also why I’m not a huge fan of adaptations that seem to make everyone around Rhaegar as understanding and supporting his prophetic mission. If Elia willingly embraces polygamy, Lyanna accepts the deaths of her family as part of destiny, and everyone essentially agrees the prophecy made it worthwhile, then this is unrealistic story.

The audience is no longer wrestling with whether Rhaegar’s choices were justified the story has already answered for them.

I think George is much more interested in ambiguity. Prophecy in ASOIAF is rarely straightforward. Characters who become convinced they’ve discovered destiny often end up misreading it or causing the very disasters they’re trying to prevent. Rhaegar may have been sincere, but sincerity doesn’t automatically make someone is "right"

That’s what separates him from characters like Daenerys, in my opinion. Their defining moments aren’t simply about fulfilling destiny; they’re about choosing to help people because they believe it’s the right thing to do, often at enormous personal cost and without any guarantee they’ll be remembered or rewarded.

Elia Martell & Lyanna stark:

The idea that Elia Martell who is supposedly politically intelligent and understands how politics works would suggest that Rhaegar take a second wife IS NOT adding depth to her character they’re more like trying to sanitize his. The narrative is trying to tell us/saying, “See? Elia was actually okay with it, so Rhaegar didn’t really wrong her.” But that’s exactly the problem because whether she reluctantly accepted the situation or not doesn’t erase the fact that Rhaegar’s actions publicly humiliated her, weakened her power/their marriage, endangered their children, and helped plunge the realm into civil war. Elia’s role isn’t just to be “the wife Rhaegar left behind.” She represents the human cost of Rhaegar’s obsession with prophecy. Whatever he believed about destiny, she and her children were the ones who suffered the consequences. That’s what makes the story tragic. If an adaptation rewrites Elia into someone who simply chose polygamy because “the prophecy demanded it,” then it changes the emotional core of her character. Instead of showing how prophecy can destroy innocent lives, it risks turning Elia into someone whose primary purpose is reassuring the audience that Rhaegar’s choices weren’t actually that bad. Ironically, that doesn’t make Elia more politically savvy it makes her stupid and unrealistic because a politically astute noblewoman in would understand exactly what a second wife would mean. It would create a succession crisis, damage Dorne’s alliance with the Iron Throne, and provoke outrage from both the Faith and the nobility. Those are precisely the kinds of consequences a politically intelligent person would be thinking about. If she was politically intelligent she could’ve worked with the many nobles already dissatisfied with Aerys, helped remove him from power, and secured a regency or, if you really want to get cynical, quietly ensured her crazy husband get poisoned so that he can never had the chance to run off and conceive another child with Lyanna. Put her son on the throne (he would’ve remained the undisputed heir) Dorne’s alliance would’ve stayed intact, and she could’ve ruled as Queen Regent through him. Instead, the idea that her brilliant political contribution was like sure honey, go take another wife and create a succession nightmare, makes absolutely no sense. This is not political intelligence it’s just the story bending over backwards to make Rhaegar look less selfish.

The same goes for Lyanna. If every decision she makes is reduced to "she knew about the prophecy" then her agency disappears too. One of the enduring mysteries of ASOIAF is that we don’t fully know what she knew, what she believed, or how much choice she actually had. Reducing all of that to prophecy makes the story much less interesting. Now Lyanna is a greenseer who communicates with Rhaegar through prophetic dreams. Benjen helps them escape. Elia is apparently fine with the relationship and even suggests polygamy. Elia and Lyanna become friends. Elia and Ashara are lovers. Lyanna ultimately convinces herself that the deaths of Rickard and Brandon were part of a divine plan. Rhaegar sees visions of Daenerys and believes his relationship with Lyanna is destiny. At some point, everyone is simply following a script written by prophecy. One of the reasons Robert’s Rebellion is so interesting in the books is because almost every character has agency. Whether Lyanna ran away willingly or not, Rhaegar still made choices. Everyone did and those choices had horrific consequences. But if prophecy becomes the explanation for every major decision, then responsibility starts disappearing. Instead of asking whether Rhaegar was reckless, arrogant, or selfish, the answer becomes, “Well, prophecy told him to.” Instead of grappling with Lyanna’s impossible position after her father and brother are murdered, we’re told she ultimately accepts it as necessary for the greater good. That also circles back to Elia. If she’s genuinely okay with polygamy because prophecy requires it, then once again the story softens Rhaegar’s responsibility. Instead of his obsession hurting the people closest to him, everyone around him conveniently understands and supports his mission. It removes exactly the human cost that made the story tragic in the first place.

That’s why I’m still hesitant to treat any of this as book canon, even if George consulted on the play. It is more like a prophecy-centric interpretation than the books have ever suggested, and for me, that actually makes the story not interesting.

[sakurafire3]

IMO, the play missed the mark on some stuff, so I’m ignoring it lol

[theoriginalmorrigandefender]

Outside of all the rape fantasy in Haunting Adeline, the biggest reason that I don't want it adapted into a movie is that the book is so deeply antisemitic it isnt even funny.

You're going to look me in my PFP and tell me the main bad guy of your book is not the man who cut if someone's hands and raped your FMC with a gun. But a group of mysterious high up politicians that secretly run everything and sacrifice children to keep their power? Thats just fucking blood libel and H.D. Carlton is a fucking asshole.

[jjellecubed]

quick rant

can I say it’s fucking disgusting and absolutely turns my stomach the way that these days literal abuse and SA is being glamorised and romanticised as ‘dark romance’

no, it’s not cute or sweet or romantic that he literally STALKS you

that he doesn’t even let you interact with other people, isolates you, constantly belittles and taunts you and refers to you as a possession to be owned and used and dehumanises you

THAT IS LITERAL TEXTBOOK ABUSE

PLEASE STOP THIRSTING OVER THESE HORRIBLE MEN AND DEFENDING AND ROMANTICISING THEIR ACTIONS

Exhibit A : the gun scene in haunting Adeline

need I really say more?

I shouldn’t have to, but I will anyway.

Zade sees another guy touching Adeline and is pissed about her “not obeying him”, so to “teach her a lesson”, he rapes her. While doing it, shoves a literal gun inside her. NON-CONSENSUALLY. And as for the people who say ‘oh but she herself says she hated the way she couldn’t stop herself from reacting to it so that means she wanted it even if she didn’t think she did’—have you not studied basic middle school biology? That’s an uncontrollable body response to stimulation. That is a fucking copulative organ which reacts in response to stimuli, regardless of the mental/emotional state of the person. And Adeline is TERRIFIED and IN PAIN the entire time—and don’t say we know she has a fear kink. She says repeatedly she didn’t want it. She even tries to stop him but he’s able to physically overpower her, so she’s not able to.

On top of that, he literally forces her to touch herself so she’d come and she did it out of fear that if she didn’t he would hurt her. After that, he leaves her there, sobbing. She even says in her internal monologue how humiliated and angry she feels and how her body literally feels numb, questioning if that’s what trauma feels like. And the biggest fucking joke of the whole book is that Zade specialises in brining down trafficking rings—which a lot of people use to defend him, saying that that means he respects women. No, it doesn’t. It means he’s a disgusting hypocritical, misogynistic, egotistical rapist .

can I just say that Jane Austen and Charlotte Brontë are rolling in their graves right now

literature from a time when women were oppressed and forced into traditional conformist roles, couldn’t vote or work, has romance 473838298319829x times healthier and better and well-written than modern times.

you’re telling me these brilliant authoresses went through all that rejection, all that societal disdain, wrote these wonderful books to empower women and showcase healthy, well developed, mutually respectful relationships between a man and woman, for our modern books to glorify and sexualise literal rape and abuse?

[alicentsgf]

"Garmund was actually Daeron all along" just became my favourite theory. I adore the idea of Lyonel and the rest of the hightowers having to gaslight everyone into believing Garmund always existed and no actually he doesnt look anything like my dead cousin i dont know what you mean my brother has red hair *slips daeron some more box dye under the table*

[alicentsgf]

okay so I was joking (and apparently no box dye necessary) but since Lyonel and the rest of Ormund’s sons now don’t exist (kinda upsetting tbh) its looking more and more possible. if Daeron does become Garmund, inherits the hightower, and marries Rhaena, then that would certainly explain why the hightowers in the present are often described to be silver-haired lmao

[sakurafire3]

I’m hate it, but I’m also okay with it. I think Hightowers were already silver-haired to begin with since they may have descended from the Empire of the Dawn.

[the-daily-dreamer]

So a lot of people have talked about the weird sexual punishment and embarrassment utilized against team green and I wanted to weigh in because I think it’s the perfect example of the hypocrisy of this show’s messaging.

Because on the surface, HOTD takes a very sex positive stance. They champion Rhaenyra for being very open with her sexuality and for being sexually liberated in a very conservative society. They act as if she is an impressive beacon of feminism for this. And that would be great…if it weren’t for the fact that this sex positive outlook lives and dies with Rhaenyra’s and team black’s sexual experiences only.

Outside of Rhaenyra’s perspective, sex scenes are often degrading, predatory, abusive, and meant to embarrass the character to others in universe and/or the audience.

Criston is seen saying no and trying to leave when being coerced into sex with Rhaenyra which she promptly ignores by kissing him and blocking the door. Then that sex he consistently has with Rhaenyra is used as a joke for how pathetic he is for not accepting her offer to be nothing more than a personal “whore”. And his consensual sex with Alicent is seen as hypocrisy but also interrupted by Helaena after blood and cheese so that he can be blamed for this atrocity because of his “immorality”.

Aemond is seen cuddling in the lap like a young child of the woman who raped him when he was young, then being served milk, and then walking out of the brothel naked. With the whole scene being painted uncomfortable and rather degenerate.

Aegon has a scene of him being a rapist to ensure he is known as a bad and evil man. And then he has a scene where he explicitly states how his genitalia have been damaged. As if his disability from his attack is embarrassing and disgusting.

Larys one of the few disabled characters in the show, has a fetish that surrounds his disability that he uses to degrade Alicent. Thereby making him seem disgusting and pathetic.

And of course. Alicent. Her first sexual encounter we see her have is her looking dead inside while being raped by her pedophilic husband, a scene that seems to have the connotation of deserved assault because “she asked for this” by “seducing” Viserys. She is fetishized for information and thus makes her seem degraded and gross. Her sex with Criston is interrupted by Helaena after blood and cheese so that she, too, is blamed for the atrocity of the murder of her grandchild because she was “immoral” for…having consensual sex with someone after her rapist husband finally dies.

Every scene that any team green character experiences is painted in a way that portrays them as disgusting, perverted, and immoral; or is painted in a way that is meant to humiliate these characters to others in and out of universe.

How is this sexually positive? How is this an appropriate way to portray your “villains”, by painting them negatively and embarrassing them through their sexual encounters?

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The worst part is that they’ve used these sexually degrading scenes specifically to “humble” a rape victim and child bride. Humbling her because they believe that she is power hungry and desperate for the throne and so she uses and betrays Viserys and Rhaenyra. And aside from that being a major mischaracterization (Alicent didn’t want the throne as a teenage girl forced to marry the king, and she doesn’t betray Viserys and Rhaenyra out of personal ambition but protection for her family), you know who that description fits? DAEMON TARGARYEN.

Daemon wanted the throne more than anything. Groomed his teenage niece to have a chance to marry her to get closer to the title of king. Betrayed, humiliated, and hurt his brother and niece wife to make himself a better candidate as heir. Choked his niece wife when she didn’t listen to him. And consistently asserted himself as king, a position to be viewed as higher than his wife the queen.

And similar to Alicent, he was “humbled” this season. But how was he humbled? By having private visions that are unknown to (almost) everyone. And these visions are mostly just him being shown the people he hurt in the process of seeking his power. Except for the one with his mother, which is sexually inclined, but not presented in the same depraved and humiliating way that the scenes with Alicent or any of team green are.

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This whole show just has such a gross way of depicting the people they see as villains. And it shows how hypocritical their messaging is. HOTD is not a feminist, sex positive show. It’s far too obsessed with sexual violence and humiliation against people they dislike to be one. This show believes that sexual positivity and liberty is good. But only for those who deserve it. That it’s not a right but rather a privilege. And anyone they deem as immoral, evil, bad, or “unfeminist” doesn’t deserve it. They deserve to be ridiculed, humiliated, and humbled by their failures as people. And I can’t stand it.

This show isn’t sex positive and feminist. It’s Rhaenyra positive. That’s it.

[sakurafire3]

And so far season 3 isn’t any better. Like it’s genuinely creepy how much the writers are putting Alicent in noncon situations.

[gabbs101]

Hey guys lets talk 😬

So to start, I don't believe that liking/disliking a character is a moral failure or says anything about you in real life. HOWEVER, how you choose to support or hate on a character does imply certain things.

This problem has been in the fandom since season 1. And that problem is that people say things such as Aegon and his siblings aren't real Targaryens because their mother is a Hightower, saying things like Alicent's Andal blood is dirty, and ( this is the craziest one to me) arguing that Rhaenyra and Daemon are better than Aegon and his siblings because they have more Targaryen blood, making them more pure. Just the other day, I saw a post talking about how Viserys messed up by marrying Alicent and allowing Andal blood into the bloodline. Like it's one thing to say Viserys messed up by marrying Alicent, but to say the reason he messed up was because of her blood is crazy. And same for Aegon and his siblings; it's one thing to not like them, but to cite their blood as an indictment on them is not ok. There are many reasons to not like these characters, but their blood is not one of them.

Guys, in case you aren't aware, this type of stuff very much leans into eugenics/white supremacy and possibly racism. And I get this is a fictional universe with fictional people, but at the same time, eugenics/white supremacy/racism has no place in any part of the world (even though it does exist, it shouldn't); therefore, we shouldn't let it make its way into our creative spaces.

And this isn't me trying to get you to like the greens; rather, I'm just trying to get to understand the meaning behind what you're saying so that when you hate on them it's not in a disturbing way ( I don't know about anyone else, but these talks of blood purity very much disturbed me. One because somehow blood purity made its way into the fandom, and two because people were being serious about it).

[courtneysmovieblog]

No Carol, no Kamala, no Monica, Sharon, no Wanda, but SHE is coming back?! Ugh.

[synnicall]

Ormund Hightower has bewitched me body and soul so much so I feel possessed. I am enraptured by that emotionally unstable man I need him so desperately.

[dcbnam-aep]

Crazy how alicent thinks her most maternal act was sending her child away when she stepped in front of a dragon for aegon, was the only person to stand up for aemond when he lost an eye, and committed literal treason to try and get her daughter and granddaughter out of the city. Girly has such a warped sense of self-worth and has never been given any agency to the point where she thinks her only worthy action is in inaction

[sansa-stark-is-me]

ngl even though team green has been completely butchered, they're still the most entertaining characters to watch imo

Honestly… same.

Even though I think the show has butchered a lot of the Greens’ characterization, they’re still the most interesting characters on screen. Aegon, Ormund, Aemond, and Otto constantly generate conflict and drama. They’re flawed and unpredictable, which makes them compelling to watch even when I disagree with the writing.

The Blacks, by comparison feel too sanitized. A lot of their internal conflicts and sharper edges have been softened, so they don’t create the same level of dramatic friction 🤷🏻‍♀️

[sakurafire3]

If only they hadn’t nerfed my beloved Alicent

[souldreamie]

It's a Hightower thing

[forwithinthishollowcrown]

Curious at to when the fic should start so figure I make a poll?

When should the Alicent x Ormund fic start

First time Alicent is told to got to Viserys chambers

The Tourney

After Laena’s walk with Viserys

See results

Voting ended onJul 25

[fabienlaguna]

He is sniffing his pomander again it would be sooo funny if he was looking at Gwayne here who is covered with mud and grime.

[goldcrescent]

he thinks himself a scholar

[alicentflorent]

It was Alicent Hightower who got both her grandchildren out of kingslanding in an attempt to save them before Rhaenyra took the city btw x

[ogorodami]

I don’t know, hotd making Ormund a cartoonish moustache twirling anti targ ceo of eugenics has the same embarrassing ring to it as all the antifa fearmongering