I also like the fact that most of what we see happen in riverdale, parallels the stories in rivervale somehow, and crazily enough it is so interesting that rivervale jughead sells his soul to never write again for fame, but when it comes in time for him to carry on his universe he is at a loss and cannot write like he used too.
As the narrator he becomes the bystander of the story he himself created troubling him deeply. Whereas the writer jughead, riverdales jughead has always known the fragile line between his stories and the narratives, and he always makes changes in his stories as such. Re: archie becoming the good guy in the revised version of killing mr honey.
It was so fun to me that the things which happen in rivervale are essentially taken directly from jugheads stories in riverdale, and that's why it was so monumental when we found out that archie is infact the big bad in rivervale, never happened in riverdales timeline except for the original draft in killing mr honey, he escaped the story, both physically and universally, just to be put back in by writer jughead.
And the extension of season 7 can be attributed to archie comics which in turns brings back the creation of riverdale, a never ending tale of jugheads fate in which he so delicately decides the lives of his friends, for the eternity of time.
Alice & Betty Cooper brainrot for no reason this a.m. so here goes: Alice has a traumatic relationship with each of her three children and it goes both ways every single time! She was wounded by abandoning Charles. She failed to protect Polly from a too-young motherhood with the wrong boy as her babydaddy, was wounded by the repeat of that cycle and yet insisted on repeating the cycle in full. She resents Betty for the (apparent) perfection that she herself inculcated in that child and yet loves her more than anyone she's ever known and is wounded by the magnitude of that love. Oh Alice, you horrible Fail Mother, why am I having feelings about you right now?
Frankly jughead's politics in s7e5 are actually relatively progressive for his time; many of his stories are an active condemnation of the patriarchy and what men believe they are "owed," and though perhaps his female characters might be unrealistic and exaggerated, his male characters are the same way. he is writing horror, a genre that many consider an acquired taste, and not for no reason. It is a taste Veronica lacks; thus they are incompatible. However, Veronica is shown throughout the series even before the 50s era (though one could argue that the 50s characters aren't even similar to, much less interchangeable with, the characters seasons 1-6) to have at times an inability to accept that a difference might be nobody's fault, and therefore she needs to find a reason on which to blame their inevitable breakup, and since she cannot fathom that the reason be her (not that it is), it must be him.
Another interesting aspect to their relationship this episode portrays is differing intent, illustrated in his own stories. He comes to his typewriter to write, she comes to him to sleep with him, an activity he is uninterested in, similar to how she is for the most part uninterested in his stories. Two of his stories (the two involving Archie) portray the phenomenon under patriarchy of men believing that they are owed women and sex, and an active deconstruction and condemnation of such beliefs. Who else comes into the episode almost believing that they are owed sex? Veronica. It's an interesting comparison. Fundamentally, Jughead exists outside of the system. He's the narrator. Veronica would, in a perfect world, never be able to seduce him at all; he cannot be seduced. But she tries, and when she fails, her knee jerk response is to blame him, and moreover, his stories. The anti-patriarchal message of his stories never gets through to her, and she comes to the same conclusion that the major villains of the season come to: that comic books are inherently violent and degenerate.
They are incompatible: she needs someone else in her life always, and he simply doesn't. This, he is able to accept that it never works out, while she must turn as others have before her, to the comics.
Prison football was one of the best defining for Archie Andrews and Iβm tired of pretending itβs not.
Yes it is about Archie representing not only middle class America but also its idealized version. Yes it is about the fact that these characters are so Genre that they bend the world around themβ¦
But itβs also a really good character beat. Season three is the decorruption of Archie Andrews. After Miss Grundy and Hiram tried so hard to turn this kind boy into a broken violent man he is put in a position where forsaking kindness, where being the violent man, the closed off man, would save him and he finally refuses.
These boys are so incredibly different from him but he recognizes that they are all being victimized by the exact same system and desperately tries to bring them joy. They play football and have cheerleaders even if it gets them punished. He protects and looks out for Joaquin and doesnβt even really blame him after the betrayal.
This is the arc that transforms him into who he is for the rest of the show. Archie Andrews the youth centre leader, the soldier, the firefighter and union leader. Archie Andrews a deeply troubled man who is constantly trying trying trying to help people.
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How would klaus be different with a male heir? Though he does have pretty weird relationships with son figures. But how do you think he would be weird.
The simple answer to this is that Klaus is deeply misogynistic and would place a different value on having a son than he would a daughter.
The more complicated answer is that he's Weird about Hope in that he wants to protect her from all the dangers of his legacy (including himself) but he would be a different sort of Weird about a son who could follow in his footsteps.
This also includes the fact that everyone else would be very Weird about Klaus having a son as well. Right off the bat, Hayley's canon reaction to the child being a boy was "Oh god, don't tell me I'm pregnant with a mini-Klaus" (the exact wording escapes me and i couldn't find the scene on youtube but that's the general idea) And I think most other characters we know would have a similar reaction. Call it misandry, call it pattern recognition, call it caution or paranoia, but Klaus having a son would fundamentally mean something different to this world than him having a daughter.
Not to say that the Mikaelson family would love the child less for it, but they would handle it differently. I don't think Elijah would be as inclined to call Klaus' son the "hope" of this family. I don't think everyone would've been quite as determined to "protect" a son from the horrors of their world. Even Dahlia, I think, would've had a different reaction to collecting a firstborn son than a daughter.
TL;DR Klaus (and everyone else if we're being honest) would be Weird about a son in that there would be more of an expectation of him to inherit his legacy than try to escape it.
Me (lying down in the middle of the road and talking to the pile of pebbles Iβve collected): Do you guys want to talk about how strange it is that Kol and Klaus Mikaelson share the hyper-specific parallel of losing a fundamental, supernatural part of their identityβquite literally becoming the first of their kind (Klaus as a hybrid, and Kol as the first witch to die and rise again without access to his magic)βand then again in the form of Elijah holding them down so Klaus/Mikael (who already share so much, because of course Klaus is Mikaelβs son in all the worst ways) can hurt them?
The pebbles: ...
Me (sitting up to stare down at them): Iβm just saying that it's weird, isnβt it? And of course then it's Kol who is murdered in front of himβa murder that eerily mirrors Jennaβs, down to the expressions Elena and Klaus both wear while watching it happenβwhen he quite literally brings a Chekhovβs stake to his own execution. And that, in a way, Elena is recreating the violence Klaus taught her: in that they are both committing great acts of cruelty against each other in a desperate attempt to regain a part of themselves they lost when they were murdered and woke the next morning. And thereβs something else thereβisnβt thereβsomething about Elena burning down her childhood home with Jeremyβs body inside, and how only feet away she sealed her fate when they murdered Kol, his corpse catching flame as Klaus watched. And how Graysonβwho was Elenaβs father in all the best waysβwho hated vampires died because he loved her, and Mikaelβwho was Klausβs father in all the worst waysβwho hated werewolves died because he hated him.
The pebbles: ...
Me (picking them up to shake them in my hands): Itβs weird, isnβt it???
People are always saying that if Jeremy wasn't wearing the Gilbert ring when Damon killed him, would Elena still forgive him?
The real question should be, Would Stefan still defend his murderous brother to Elena after Damon permanently murders her baby brother because she dare reject him?
Because this is what happened when Damon snapped Jeremy's neck in front of Elena as she cried No! in 2x01:
Elena was on the floor, cradling her 15 year old brother's corpse, Stefan standing behind her.
Stefan: He saw the ring, that's why he did it. He knew.
Elena: He didn't see the ring.
Stefan: It's Katherine. She got under his skin. She undid everything that was good about him.
Elena: There's nothing good about him.
Stefan, like he always has and always will, defended his serial killer, rap*st brother far before Elena ever did. Far more than Elena ever could. Or would. He has been doing it for long over a century, longer than Stefan's girlfriend has existed. Because that's what Stefan does. He defends and protects Damon from the consequences of his own actions, thus enabling Damon to keep murdering and rap*ng innocents. When Damon rap*d and tried to kill Caroline, Stefan came up with the nonsense plan of locking him, as if jail time for a couple decades would work on an immortal psycho. When Damon rap*d Andy Starr, Stefan murdered her, murdered the victim, so her abuser would feel bad and not go after Stefan, so Damon could be safe.
These two brothers are the worst thing that can happen to a girl. Just look at poor Elena Gilbert.
There is no such thing as a Good Salvatore Brother. Such a creature does not exist.
one of the tvd takes i've seen a lot of times ever since i joined the fandom is people disliking elena because she daggered rebekah. I mean sure i get that there are a few reasons to dislike elena but you decide to go with this?? I mean i generally feel like when people judge Elena's character they start going with "she cheated on stefan, she helped kill an entire sireline, she dated damon" in a show full of predatory vampires elena is your problem?? A big problem with Elena's character is that the writers keep making her feel guilty over things every other tvd character does, for example daggering rebekah. Are we all forgetting rebekah is supposed to be the bad guy (along with klaus & stefan sometimes) in s3. This coming from a rebekah stan elena was fully justified to dagger her, bex was the one who helped her psychotic hybrid brother threaten and abuse elenas friends, sorry she's trying to get out of this mess, sorry she's not trying to be friends with her. This show genuinely trying to gaslight you into believing elena is villain. Or the other scene that pisses me off, when elena staked jesse in s5. I think we all agree caroline is justified to dislike elena with damon, however acting like elena has has lost her morals for trying to stake jesse to protect her boyfriend is hypocritical. Every tvd character kills the side characters to save their loved ones, it's been justified so many times but yet elena is the problem?? Elena would have less haters if the show would let her stand up for herself
me, taking any riverdale woman and putting her under a microscope to study: Uhm...what is this? Grooming? incestual trauma? The fear of ending up like your mother so you do everything in your power to not end up living a life like her only to look in the mirror and find out that you have become your father instead. the worse one.
me, taking any riverdale man and putting him under a microscope to study: Uhm...what is this? The want to live a larger life and not end up like your father only to look back years later to find out that that's exactly what you want but you can never actually live up to your father or become like him.
always thinking of how stefan and damon are each others biggest enablers. damon's more overt, always tempting stefan to drink human blood, leaving a cup of it in his vicinity to make him break edge, breaking him out of the dungeon where he's supposed to be vervained and starved of his cravings in the ripper era. and stefan's is more covert -- he claims his hands are tied because he's weaker (only drinking animal blood in s1) but even when elena is outraged what damon was doing to caroline stefan was literally damn that sucks πΆ like he knows what it's like to be a human being compelled by a vampire and enduring sexual abuse from them (ie katherine) and he was like damon's being damon. he barely reacted when damon killed his literal century long best friend. my take is damon enables stefan because he wants him to join him at his level, to morally corrupt the "good brother" sparkle he tries to have in the early seasons and stefan enables damon doing heinous things because he wants damon to be so reprehensible no one else could stomach to be around him... the whole reason stefan turned him at all, to be alone together all eternity; and damon's promise vice versa to make it hell for him
My take on the Incestuous Subtext, Codependency, and Displaced Intimacy in The Vampire Diaries Universe
Warning: Incestuous Subtext / Pseudo-Incest:
1. The Mikaelson Family: "Always and Forever" as a Marriage Vow
The Mikaelson siblings aren't just close; they are an intensely inwardly directed unit. Isolated from humanity for 1,000 years, they have replaced external social norms with a claustrophobic trauma bond.
Klaus and Rebekah: The "Helicopter Incestuous Boyfriend"
Klaus doesn't treat Rebekah like a sister; he treats her like his property . Fans and critics alike have noted that Klaus acts like a controlling boyfriend rather than an older brother .
The Control: He uses daggering literally paralyzing her and putting her in a box for decades whenever she tries to find love outside the family. This ensures she never emotionally matures, keeping her in the state of a spoiled teenager who is perpetually dependent on his approval .
The Subtext of Physicality: The show leans into "belligerent sexual tension" between them . They share an intense physicality constant physical touches and eye contact eye fucking . Klausβs obsession is pathological; he believes she belongs to him, and he systematically murders or ruins every man sheβs ever loved to ensure no one takes his place .
Klaus and Elijah: Feeding Together and Displaced Intimacy
Klaus and Elijahβs relationship is the foundation of the showβs "Always and Forever" pact, which functions more like a trap than a promise.
The Ritual of Feeding: The intimacy of their bond is frequently showcased through shared violence. A prime example is in season 3, where Elijah and Klaus are depicted feeding on a woman together. In vampire lore, blood-sharing is "vampire naked cuddling" an intimate exchange of bodily fluids that is explicitly sexual in the novels. Sharing the same victim simultaneously acts as a surrogate for sexual intimacy between the brothers
Elijahβs Pattern with Klausβs Lovers: Elijah has a weird thing for pursuing women with ties to Klaus . From Tatia (the original doppelgΓ€nger) to Katerina (Katherine) and finally Hayley (Klaus's "baby mama"), Elijah consistently sleeps with his brother's lovers . This pattern is often read as a form of displaced intimacy the brothers can only reach each other through the women they share.
2. The Salvatore Brothers: Triangulated Desire
In the Vampire Diaries books and show, Stefan and Damonβs rivalry over Katherine and Elena is a classic example of triangulated desire
The Bite as Sex: The original L.J. Smith books are much more explicit about the "vampire bite = sex" metaphor . Damon compelling young women to offer their bodies for feeding was written with overtly sexual overtones . When the brothers both feed on and sleep with the same women, they are essentially replicating their relationship with each other through a third party.
Sharing Lovers as Intimacy: The need to sleep with the same people Katherine Pierce and then Elena Gilbert isnβt just a love triangle; itβs a way for the brothers to remain the central focus of each otherβs lives. Damonβs pursuit of Elena was initially motivated by his envy of Stefan and a desire to cause Stefan the most amount of pain
The episode "1912" serves as a masterclass in the brothers' dark co-dependency. Damon attempts to help Stefan by teaching him how to enjoy being a vampire, a process that involves shared feeding and blood-lust. Damonβs dialogue in this episode "Whenever you go too far, I will be there to pull you back" is framed as a redeeming statement of brotherly love, yet the visual and thematic execution suggests a dark initiation into a shared, deviant lifestyle.
Damon admits he regretted letting Stefan fall "over the rails" in 1912, not just as a brother, but as the "one person" who could understand Stefan's true nature. The "Wonder Twin Powers" line is used by Damon to remind Stefan of the "great team" they made, a phrase that masks the horrific reality of their shared "Ripper" history
3. The Marcel-Rebekah Taboo: Aunt and Nephew
The relationship between Marcel and Rebekah is perhaps the most canon incestuous relationship in the show, despite them not being blood-related .
The Family Hierarchy: Klaus rescued Marcel as a boy and raised him as a son. This makes Marcel a member of the Mikaelson family by adoption, and Rebekah, as Klaus's sister, is effectively Marcel's Aunt .
Grooming Subtext: Marcel grew up in a house where he watched the uncomfortable and borderline-incestuous dynamics between Klaus and Rebekah . He admitted to having a crush on Rebekah as a child, and Rebekah, despite being the adult, did not set boundaries . The "Always and Forever" vow ensures that even as a lover, Marcel is treated as an extension of Klausβs family rather than an independent partner .
The 1903 Siring: Pity and Abandonment
Lily Salvatore met Enzo in 1903 on a ship to New York. Enzo was dying of consumption (tuberculosis) and was being denied passage. Lily "took pity" on him and turned him into a vampire, effectively saving his life but also "making him a monster" before immediately abandoning him as she was trapped in a prison world.
For over a century, Enzo viewed Lily with a mixture of resentment and obsessive devotion, often calling her a dreadful woman while simultaneously seeking the connection only a sire can provide. This mirrors Marcel's upbringing by the Mikaelsons; though Klaus was his primary parental figure, Rebekah was his aunt and a part of the family that raised him, making their eventual romance a violation of the family unit's sanctity.
Maternal Energy vs. Romantic Chemistry
Upon their reunion, the dynamic between Lily and Enzo was explicitly described as starting off maternal. Lily took Enzo under her wing, and their bond was rooted in the fact that she was the only person who had ever shown him kindness. However, as the season progressed, this shifted into what actors described as a kinship with deep-rooted chemistry that left the door open for romance.
Fans found the eventual kiss between Enzo and Lily weird and out of place, precisely because Lily possessed such strong maternal energy toward him. the kiss felt like a son kissing his mother, further complicated by the fact that Enzo was a contemporary and husband-coded best friend to Lily's biological son, Damon. This displacementβwhere the mother's lover is effectively a surrogate for her sons creates a psychological loop of abandonment and replacement that defines the Salvatore matriarchy.
The Gemini Coven: The "Merge" and Siphoning as Ritualized Intimacy
The Gemini Coven introduces a new layer of taboo through "The Merge" a ritualized soul-absorption that requires twins to participate in a violent, highly personal ceremony at age 22. This ritual, and the act of siphoning magic that powers it, is frequently analyzed as a metaphor for forced intimacy and the violation of bodily autonomy.
The Merge: Creepy, Rapey, and Non-Consensual
The Merge is described as a "curse" on the Gemini twins rather than a simple leadership tradition. It requires the two twins to hold hands and chant until the stronger twin "claims" the other's power, killing the weaker twin and absorbing their personality traits and soul. It's been labeled this process "creepy" and "rapey" because it is a non-consensual mystical law "baked into the bloodline" that forces twins into a life-or-death struggle for survival.
Siphoning: Tactile Contact and the "Glow"
Siphoning is a rare ability within the Gemini Coven that allows a witch without magic to "suck" or absorb it from other sources through tactile contact. In the series, this act is depicted with a "faint, red glow" and often involves intense physical dominance.
Kai and Jo: When Kai siphons his twin sister Jo, the act is often framed with unsettling intimacy. To "prove" she had taken her magic back, Kai placed his hands on Jo's cheeks and siphoned from her, a gesture that mimics a caress but functions as a theft of power.
The Sensation of Touch: Siphoning can be "painless" or "aggressive" depending on the intent of the siphoner. Kai, a "psychotic sadist," often chose to make the process agonizing, while younger siphoners like Josie and Lizzie learned to do it painlessly, highlighting that siphoning is an act of "energy/magic taking" that requires a specific, often forced, physical boundary-crossing.
katherine killing herself and turning into a vampire is the one true stunning act of agency in the show. here is an all powerful man coming to claim her life because he feels entitled to her body due to predestination (as a doppelgΓ€nger for his curse breaking) already a teen mom, already facing patriarchal violence and being kicked out and exiled and having to rely on herself, on her own wits, learning a new language, a new culture; social climbing and having the misfortune of stumbling onto a pair of brothers of nobility who take a keen interest in her and just might be her ticket to a better life β end up wanting her for something completely out of her control being a Petrova doppelgΓ€nger.
and she chose to die than let herself be killed by klaus. for her defiance and refusing him, he murders her family and keeps her on the run for 500 years. this is also misogynistic violence for saying no. often times in the show, becoming a vampire is non consensual -- it's something thrust upon our characters either forcefully (or last ditch effort to avoid death), under coercion, or out of love to spend eternity With someone. katerina was 18, and when she hung herself -- after tricking rose into giving her vampire blood to heal her by stabbing herself -- she had no practical way of knowing if it would work, if she'd wake up again but she chose it for herself, to end her life on her own terms and to begin the undead one.
And the ultimate thing about Katherine Pierce is that, while I'm certainly not gonna sit here and defend all of her actions, especially if we're taking real world morality into account, I think her role in the story as the "evil" counterpart to Elena's "good" says so much about TVD's problematic view of women. The majority of Katherine's actions are heinous, that's just an objective fact, and while Elena definitely has her bad moments (all of these characters are serial killers), they don't come close to stacking up to Katherine's, even if we just take the show's timeline into account, since they have so widely different life spans. However β and this is a big however β nearly all of Katherine's worst actions were completely necessary acts of survival. The hatred that both the characters and the narrative has for her stems from the opinion that Katherine should've just let herself be murdered. The fact that if she'd done this, she would've died at seventeen years old in a ritualistic sacrifice to give a 500 year old all powerful monster even more power, doesn't matter. She should've just accepted her tragic fate and laid down and died. The only good girl is a dead girl, indeed.
This stands out against the men of TVD, whose worst actions mostly come from feelings of hurt, anger or grief. Damon, Stefan, even Klaus, all come out of the show with a more sympathetic treatment from the narrative than Katherine. And the only reason Elena gets to remain both good and alive is because she constantly has other people commit atrocities to save her. Katherine didn't have that luxury. She had no one willing to kill other people or themselves to keep her alive. She was completely alone. So she had to do it herself. And they sent her to hell for it.
I am so tired of constantly coming across the disclosure that damon liked elena because she was nothing like katherine while stefan liked her because she looked like katherine. did we even watch the same show? its not true. so here's my frustratingly long rant on stelena vs delena only in the regards of Elena's resemblance to katherine.
before that let me clarify that i neither stan stelena nor delena and am generally not a fan of the salvatores brothers so this post isnt just my bias but what was actually shown on the show.
First lets talk about the salvatore brother's relationship with katherine.
Damon knew that katherine was a vampire and loved her regardless. he helped her kill and feed on people. he had plans to become a vampire with her and live for eternity. the fact that she was also with stefan made him jealous but didnt didnt deter his love for katherine. he wanted her for himself.
Stefan on the other hand, loved katherine who he thought was a poor, orphan girl. as soon as he found out she was a vampire, she compelled him not to be afraid of him. which, takes away his agency and choice to like her. because we see that he was horrified of her and wouldn't have continued his thing with her.
Now, both the brothers become vampires. damon is angry at stefan because he didnt want to be a vampire without katherine and angry that she chose stefan over him and thus starts his journey to torment his brother.
now, cut to present day. I never understood people who claim that damon liked elena because she wasn't like katherine also celebrate the fact that he met her first. because that just derrails the whole argument. damon, as we know, is known for feeding on people in the middle of the night while they are alone and mostly women. so the fact, that he met her first, proves that the only reason he didnt feed on her instantly was because she looked like katherine. if it was some random girl he would've fed on her killed her right there and then.
Stefan, heard the car crash, goes to save the people. he sees elena and is shocked because she looks like katherine. he spends the rest of the time stalking her, to make sure she wasnt katherine. Now, he didnt know anything about doppelgangers so far so it makes sense he would think it was katherine, doing again what she did to him earlier. his fault was, as soon as he found out that that wasnt katherine, he should've left her alone.(but lets be real, the people who uses this argument against him forget to take in notice that damon stalked her too because he was also there with his creepy crow, following her when we first see her and also he goes after caroline because he probably had stalked elena and gained info about her life and friends). We see that stefan liked her because she was kind and selfless and thats why he decides to enter his life(something i never like him for).
The first season, we see damon obsessed with getting katherine back. he didnt care who got in the way. he waited decades to get her back and he didnt have any problem to use anyone as collateral damage. Even after he found out that katherine was alive, while he was angry, he didnt actually stop loving her because we see in season 2, him being with katherine and only stopping when she says she like stefan more.
Now here's the thing, people will say, how is he obsessed with katherine if he stops after that and goes after elena? He goes after elena as soon katherine rejects him because now he has a better alternative. Better in the sense that elena looks exactly like katherine while she is also someone he can easily control. Because yes, damon is the kind of person who can only ever be in a relationship where he is the dominant and controlling one. he is, plainly put, a misogynist. Its not up for debate. we have seen how he treats any women on the show. so his obsession with elena starts because she is a pliant katherine. he is not interested in katherine anymore because he found someone better. someone he can mold and control and manhandle because thats something he can never do with katherine.
Back to stefan. One would ask, if he hated katherine why did he sleep with her again? To answer that, i am a firm beleiver of the facf that stefan never got over elena. NEVER. so he slept with katherine, because she was an alternative to elena.
Back to damon. people say he accepted elena as she was while stefan always tried to keep fixing her to how he liked. WRONG. Damon never liked elena for the traits which made her elena. He hated that she was kind and compassionate and empathetic. he kept mocking those triats about her and others too. he never liked her making any decisions about herself and kept manhandling her. The famous delena scene, where they are dancing and feeding on people, the scene where elena is the least like herself is what damon liked. he liked her like him. he liked her when she acted like katherine. a katherine he can control.
Stefan never tried to 'fix' elena. Elena was terrified of being a vampire. People keep forgetting about the time damon force fed her his blood and she and stefan spend the rest of the day out as they thought she might become a vampire. people forget what she said. she wants to get old and have kids. she never wanted to become a vampire. And after she transitioned she had an extremely hard time as a vampire(thanks to the sirebond). so tell me, what was stefan supposed to do for the woman he loved? was he not supposed to look for a cure for her when she was miserable and had priorly voiced her opinions on being a vampire?
that's all for my rant. all of this is on the show. i didnt make anything up. so tell me who actually likes elena for who she is and who likes her for looking like katherine?
