Sasukeyul

[goldcrescent]

Iron Islander voice: Theon you [19 syllable dolphin noise slur] I see you came back WOKE and GAY and a WOMAN from us leaving you as a child prisoner to the guy with an 8 foot sword that makes you drag it around to executions in front of his screaming faced tree gods as a daily reminder that he can and will kill you (a child) just like he killed the rest of your family (some of which were also children). Did you have fun polishing his sword? I’ll bet. Did you write this letter yourself? Knowing there’s a one person literacy limit? Should we call you Theon the Reader, you reading fuck? And standing here in a jean jacket you bought yourself, may as well be sucking dick at old navy. You know who’s NOT woke or gay or a woman? Your sister Asha. Why can’t you be less gay and woke and a woman, like Asha? I bet she could run a democratic election because you know what isn’t gay Theon? Democracy

[mattyalwayssmokesweed]

I know Ned was stressed as hell seeing his daughter, who resembles Lyanna physically and in attitude, become friends with Robert’s bastard son and Edric Dayne aka mister pale blonde hair and purple eyes. Like that man was about to die again from a heart attack, hands shaking as he pulled at his hair, thinking to himself “no, gods, no. Not this again. No one give my girl a flower please”

[antigonesiropdefruit]

Naruto fans feel so clever claiming that Naruto was the only pariah in the village and therefore the only one with the right to seek revenge.

Their argument? Sasuke couldn't have been a pariah if he'd had fangirls during his childhood, said fangirls being mainly Ino and Sakura (two girls who knew nothing about him and barely spoke to him during his childhood). Naruto had Iruka and the ramen seller. Shikamaru, Kiba and Choji were on good terms with him. After the massacre, no one even asked Sasuke if he was all right. And many knew about the massacre, since two children were talking about it behind him in class.

So why is it that only Naruto is recognized by fans as an outcast? The two boys were alone. Naruto wasn't the only one to suffer. Sasuke, Sai, Neji and Kabuto went through hell during their childhood because of this village, and they lost everyone who treated them with humanity.

[lyovara]

He lost his parents, his entire clan, every single person he cared about. The person he trusted the most his own brother was the one who slaughtered them!.. He was forced to relive that massacre over and over again, enough to break most adults, and he was just a child!

Then he finds out his whole life was basically built on lies The reason he lived for, the reason he wanted revenge, dies Then he gets betrayed by his own village And after all that, these fans still want Sasuke to suffer For what exactly? Because he rejected Sakura? Because he was rude to her?

Sakura didn't go through even half of what Sasuke went through, yet some people act like she's the real victim in this situation. They want Sasuke begging for forgiveness, suffering for her, apologizing to her. For what? Not returning her feelings?

And that's why, in my opinion, a lot of SS fans are just Sasuke-obsessed Sakura fans!

Because this whole ship is mostly based on Sakura's POV, not Sasuke's. The discussions are always about her feelings, her suffering, what she wants, what she deserves. I rarely see people asking what Sasuke wants or looking at things from his perspective.

I almost never see SS fans criticize Sakura's actions, but I sure see plenty criticizing Sasuke. They ignore her faults while blaming him for everything and acting like she was always too good for him.

How exactly?

By refusing to take rejection as rejection?

By comparing her loneliness to the trauma of losing his entire family?

By constantly focusing on how she feels while barely trying to understand how he feels?

Or maybe by deciding the best way to help him was to kill him?

Doing literally nothing to see things from his perspective, but somehow he's the bad guy for not centering his life around her feelings?

What exactly did Sakura do that makes some fans act like Sasuke owes her ?

For saving him? Because he saved her multiple times too!

Or for being obsessed with him? Since when did having a crush on someone automatically make them owe you something?

[sasukeyul]

Yall joke about sasuke wants to become a hokage but i think he deserves it more than anyone else. No one except him actively tried to change corrupted system. I like naruto as a character but he was never even a little uncomfortable about working for genociders and it really irks me. Also sakura deciding to kill him in 5 kage summit arc is just.. 💀. Yeah lets blame the genocide survivor for not wanting to come back to his familys opressors. Say what you want about sasuke but he would never let hyugas enslave each other or a clans genocide for some fucking stupid reason. Or letting people who genocided an entire bloodline still have power

[maekarlargenaturals]

Half the time I don’t think Jon even has a Valyrian name because 1.) Rhaegar did not want another son, he wanted his Visenya, and there was already his little brother having the male form of Visenya as his name. 2.) why the fuck would Lyanna be able to pull a male targ name out of her ass while she was dying?

However, with that said. Jon being an Aemon or Jaehaerys? Lame. Surface level. I must hold the line of Jon being a Daemon truther.

The callbacks to Catelyn’s fear of Daemon Blackfyre vs Daeron the good happening with Robb and Jon. The Themes TM with how Robb, Jon, and Sansa all seem obsessed with Aemon, Naerys, Daeron II, and Daemon. Jon’s entire:

“He wanted it, Jon knew then. He wanted it as much as he had ever wanted anything. I have always wanted it, he thought, guiltily. May the gods forgive me. It was a hunger inside him, sharp as a dragonglass blade.”

“When Jon had been very young, too young to understand what it meant to be a bastard, he used to dream that one day Winterfell might be his. Later, when he was older, he had been ashamed of those dreams. Winterfell would go to Robb and then his sons, or to Bran or Rickon should Robb die childless. And after them came Sansa and Arya. Even to dream otherwise seemed disloyal, as if he were betraying them in his heart, wishing for their deaths. I never wanted this, he thought as he stood before the blue-eyed king and the red woman. I loved Robb, loved all of them … I never wanted any harm to come to any of them, but it did. And now there’s only me. All he had to do was say the word, and he would be Jon Stark, and nevermore a Snow. All he had to do was pledge this king his fealty, and Winterfell was his.”

“That morning he called it first. “I’m Lord of Winterfell!” he cried, as he had a hundred times before. Only this time, this time, Robb had answered, “You can’t be Lord of Winterfell, you’re bastard-born. My lady mother says you can’t ever be the Lord of Winterfell.”

“Winterfell, he thought. Theon left it burned and broken, but I could restore it. Surely his father would have wanted that, and Robb as well. They would never have wanted the castle left in ruins.”

Jon wants as Daemon Blackfyre wanted, as Daemon Targaryen wanted. There is a hungry wolf inside the boy that twists in bone deep jealousy.

[wrath-of-achilleus]

Jon falling in love with Dany the moment he sees her, not because of her beauty or their soulmatism, but because she's finally got a solution for all the logistical problems that have been plaguing him.

[penelopwgarcia]

@sasukeyul how dare you leave this on the tags

[berriesandcherry]

Jon and Cat every time they thought of Theon

[sasukeyul]

King Bran thing sounds like a misunderstood concept in asoiaf fandom. I blame the show for this, of course. Bran's journey is about magic, not politics or leadership. He always wanted to be a knight, never a king and i really believe he has the heart of a good knight.

But him being the king of westeros would cause a lots of political headache. First of all, Baratheons could claim the throne because they had targaryen blood. It made other lords accept them as their new kings easier. Bran doesn't have that kind of adventage. Also i really can't see him having heirs which is an important issue in Westeros. The whole series political side was about who is the rightful heir and i don't think lords of westeros would let someone who can't have heirs take the throne if they actually took their lessons from past.

I know that this series is a fantasy serie and the realm is probably about to get destroyed. And if in the end the realm is saved Bran will have a great role for that. But i think his fate won't be in the south. It's gonna be my theory of course but i always thought Bran was going to be the King Beyond the Walls. Hear me out on this one.

We have two main characters who are actively trying to solve problems that their ancestors caused: Dany and Jon. Dany is trying to solve slavery in Essos which has a direct connection with Old Valyria -her actual homeland- Jon is saving Free Folk and letting them in south of the Wall -which was built by one of his ancestors and harmed Free Folk for thousands of years- but there is one more group that was affected by a main characters ancestor: Children of the Forest and giants. Other magical creatures. Old gods. First Men harmed this beings a lot. I think it is safe to believe that Bran will be the one who brings justice and help to them.

When Others are defeated, i think beyond the wall will belong to children of forest and giants. Bran will help them to recreate their civilazation and built the wall again (the wall won't make it in the end of the series like absolutely no way) but this time wall will be like border both humans and magical creatures on the other side of wall respects.

Honestly it just makes sense to me because i genuinely can't see bran in south. This boy belongs in the north. Things that make bran chapters unique is that old gods and their magic. And it's not that strong in the south. So what would really be the point of his journey if he can't use what he knows? I am not sure about the fate of westeros in end of the series but if bran is going to be the king it would make more sense that he stays in somewhere magic is more involved.

[penelopwgarcia]

snowstorm will show affection by biting e/o. canonically they both have gift as love language, but dany also has touch and believe me jon is absolutely touch starved that boy would moan to a kiss on the cheek. but dany is also as self contained as he is with affection. it is already stabilish that they won't be normal abt each other (motherless boy x mother of us all, protective older brother x little sister who craves safety and who needed to be protected but wasn't, guy who will find out he's part of a bigger family drama than he thought x girl who thinks shes alone in the world and craves a family, guy who's set to be the lord of death and destruction through ice by becoming the next night king x girl who will save him "stealing" him away from a destiny worst than death and who is life and fire and hope, two lonely children who never had a home, two revolutionary young leaders that are tired and will meet someone who understands them but its the end of the world and they might lose one another. yeah they gonna be freaky and even a little codependent.) So yeah. They gonna bite each other.

[nyxqueen97]

fans say they want dark jon and understand grrm's frustations about a character coming back from the dead unchanged and say his character is very byronic but then refuse to actually want him to change or commit atrocities in twow,that guy is going on a theon (hungry wolf) stark levels of shit in the north probably and is going to beef with multiple ppl i dont get why fans wouldn't want that

[saccharine-saint]

It’s still wild to me that was Jon Snow made a dudebro character by that hellshow. That’s my favorite bisexual furry you don’t know him

[bloodydamnreaperofmars]

isn't this what happened in the white tower

[sasukeyul]

I love how almost everyone in the books thought the red comet came for their boring asses. Like theon honey its not YOUR sign sit tf down.

[eggpilled-maekarcel]

Literally don’t understand how seemingly half of Jon’s fanbase are red pill freaks when the character himself is literally Mr Woke McWokington. Like a big part of why he got killed was because he was too woke about literally ANY. GIVEN. SOCIAL. ISSUE. And it’s not like he switched up, he was woke from the very first chapter in the series. So how did we get here???

[wrath-of-achilleus]

Jon falling in love with Dany the moment he sees her, not because of her beauty or their soulmatism, but because she's finally got a solution for all the logistical problems that have been plaguing him.

[ghostinwinterfell]

actually the real tragedy of asoiaf is that jon and catelyn never got to sit around and talk shit about theon together.