They have suggested so many times that Sydney and Carmy are endgame. Naysayers said they were like siblings. Nope!
The same music plays when Richie feels at peace and makes contact with Jessie. The same way Carmy holds Sydney in his arms and feels at peace. This time they're no longer under the table!
There was a vibe going on in episodes 5-7, people who said, "This isn't that kind of show," "it's a work show." All kinds of love and vibes's happening there.
Riche confirms there is magic in that place, but not just magic; there's love, and it is metaphysical. There were always things happening beneath the surface. And he tells Sydney that love won't let them fail, and right then, Carmy's voice cuts in to bring Sydney back to the present!
There's love here, and lots of it, and Donna helped the viewers see this is not a platonic or brother-sister relationship. This is new, this is the bear, and it rained, so there could be a cleansing and renewal for what is, and Carmy is not leaving to break patterns because there are already patterns breaking!
Carmy realizes why he loved cooking, and it has to do with the colors and vibrancy of the food. Just like he sees Sydney vibrant and in color, and a different shade of green.
Remember, since the beginning, he used the word green as a disappointing adjective or dismissive to Sydney. But he realizes green, a different shade of green, reminds him how this time it can be different.
The panic attack, Carmy explains to him the reason for his anxiety, or Richie's is because he feels dread leaving a safe zone for an unsafe zone. It's not exactly unsafe; it's not familiar, and it's scary to do anything different. At the end, Richie, even with anxiety, leaves the safe zone and enters something unfamiliar, and that includes Jess.
Like for Carmy and Sydney, Claire is familiar with an old shade of green, and Sydney is new and feels unfamiliar but as peaceful as when Jessie and Richie held hands.
I get why the show ended this way, it's a 24-hour timespan after Carmy decides he is leaving, but they gave us enough time to see that Carmy has a realization that breaking patterns can be as simple as changing his to ask Richie about his day, being there for Sydney, and everyone.
Remember how Sydney told him, simply don't be shitty? He can make it as simple as that, different shades of something new, but in that building where a lot of love and magic already exists.
I still have more thinking to do, but that is what i wanted to share.
Did anyone else notice how Syd has her Sharpie tucked on the outside of her apron and Carmy has his tuck inside his?
And did anyone else see that after learning that she earned TWO stars, Sydney goes to the kitchen, and rearranges how she tucks her pen - facing inward like Carmy? I can’t find a picture but it happens around the 34:26 mark in the series finale.
Those two influence and mirror each other on a molecular level at this point.
So what then, we’re supposed to just walk around now carrying this show in our souls like it’s completely normal ?? It happened and now it’s over and we just have to live with that ??
when sydcarmy shippers , said that donna clocked something between sydcarmy , they called us delusional , and here comes the answer in s5 , when we pointed out that cicero may have feelings for donna , they called us delusional , and here comes the answer in s5 , when we called sydcarmy are not platonic and not business partners , they called us delusional , and said that claire is the real peace and great , but we get the real answer in s5 ............ when we watched the show with eyes wide open they called us why we complicate the relationships between characters ... and when richie said this is not a place of I love you , we get the real answer in s5 , and many thingssssssssssssssssssssss ... so now excuse me because we won ... and we need to move on and write our metas and fanfic ... we have a busy time now.
"Have any ideas of what you wanna achieve or explore?"
His truth:
Related note: Hot take
I think Sugar asked him the right question by reframing it. Because it wasn't about what he wanted to do, or thought he had to do, or about what anyone else expected from him or was asking him to do, or not.
It was about what he was really capable of doing if he was being honest with himself.
So, that question set off a thought process that remained operating in his unconscious till Sue asked the right triggering question during the interview, which BTW he completely misinterpreted because of that unconscious bias that created a cognitive dissonance, where what Sue was actually inquiring about was his plans for the intership he was applying for, if he got it, his hopes about getting that JOB in particular, and joining the company, etc, but what he actually understood was: what he wanted to achieve/explore IN LIFE.
That was his truth; what he wanted in life was to feel how he felt during that service, that love, that lifting each other up, and he could only do it with his family-family, because of his family-family and ofc, by Syd's side. After all, he wouldn't have been there if it wasn't because of her, because let's not forget that despite the fight the night before, that same AM he had made himself available for her, he wanted to help HER.
And even before, during the fight, he already knew exactly what he wanted. But at that point, he thought it didn't include him.
When Starman told him that they had won the 🌟🌟2 months prior, he knew that that success was hers, but it could include him, and so when Sue asked the magic question, it all finally clicked in his head, and he was finally able to lead with his ❤️.
Thanks @avatarreso for the Nike reference that made me look into Sugar's lines more in depth and find this.
I genuinely can not stand when there’s a black character in a TV show, especially if it’s a black woman character and she’s shipped with a well-known (male) character that’s beloved by the fandom, but the fandom treats her horribly.
I’ve seen this with every fandom I have been in, and each time it aggressively gets worse. For example, Damon and Bonnie from The Vampire Diaries. I have not read the books, but I have been told they did get together in them, and if I am not mistaken, I believe Ian was at least interested in the idea of Bonnie and Damon being together. When watching the show, you can see the chemistry; it just rubs off on each other. Yes, everyone knows Damon is a problematic character, but when he cares, he cares hard, and that especially goes for Bonnie. I wish the writers (Julie Plec) weren’t cowards and allowed us as an audience to see that side of their relationship blossom.
Then, with Mel and Jay from Arcane, the disgusting things I have seen this fandom do, the lengths that they go to treat Mel as an abuser in the relationship? To treat Mel as trash and not a character with complex qualities, just like everyone else in the show. Which is why I will forever side-eye any and every JayVik shipper. I do not care if you’re not the one perpetuating the stereotypes on Mel, but you being a shipper and seeing fellow shippers be distasteful; the least you can do is call them out on their behavior and make sure you’re not a safe space for them. Some fanfic writers have the nerve to write her as some aggressive black woman, and even Jay as aggressive sometimes, and Victor as the docile, could never hurt a fly character. Which is wrong, it’s disturbing, and it is racism.
Many fandom spaces are full of misogynoir and people who do not care to unpack their ignorance, even pick up a book and see why that is. Two authors I could easily recommend to people would be Bell Hooks and Toni Morrison. You have to do the work on unlearning racist and misogynistic behaviors because it is so deeply rooted in fandoms and other communities.
Whenever a black person decides to ship a black character and a non-black character together, I have seen many non-black people try to correct them, saying, “Oh, they’re just friends, he/she wouldn’t date them.” Are you the writer of the show? No, so what makes it right for you to police that person?
This goes with The Bear fandom and how people treat sydcarmy shippers. Why is it so shocking to you that people ship those two characters together? I personally haven't seen the show fully, but from the many clips I've seen of those two, I can see why people ship them, and even if I couldn’t, it's still not my place to police a person if it’s not doing any harm to anyone, or even the characters.
A lot of people love to humble black shippers and characters and force us into a box of some sort. While their counterparts get a safe space to be themselves.
With the Bridgerton fandom and their mistreatment of Michaela Stirling. It’s not just lesbianphobia, it’s racism, it’s misogyny. I see a lot of white lesbians and non-black lesbians in general forget to mention that racism plays a big role in why people want Michael Stirling and not Michaela Stirling. There are people in this fandom who will use AI and turn Michaela back into a man, but only a white man. As if the Kilmartin and Stirling families aren’t full of black people. I’m not interested in excuses either because more racism will go dismissed.
A lot of people don’t care to realize that if these problems do not get called out in fandoms, then we’ll have a situation like the Percy Jackson fandom and The Flash. As someone who grew up with both of those things, I am extremely tired of seeing the mistreatment of the actors and their characters. You don’t care about black women, you don’t even care about the character, you just want to insert yourself in these situations because of another character you love. A lot of white people have that problem, and we see it a lot in BookTok. I have seen it all my life.
He said the food overall was truly exceptional. And creative. He said the talent here is undeniable. That there's a scallop dish he hasn't been able to stop thinking about and the hospitality was beautiful. He said the room felt alive without being precious or try-hard.
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