SGAMEPLAY

The discussion of Sburb and Sgrub assets, sessions, Titles, and derivatives. Side-blog of Humunanunga.

[sgameplay]

a reminder

This blog assumes readers are acquainted with the walkthroughs of Rose Lalonde regarding the game she played with her three teammates, the reboot played with their descendants, and the survivors of the playthrough before theirs. In Rose’s universe, it was titled “Sburb.” In the universe preceding hers, it was titled “Sgrub.” For simplicity, it is called “Sgame” here. If this game is not familiar to you, pay no attention to this blog. It needn’t concern you.

If you are already playing a variant of Sgame, on the other hand, consider this a hub of speculation for acquainted players, descendants and observers. You may have noticed mention of “Canon,” “fanon,” and other sessions by title as if they were stories. For context, a god or a rare few gods may inherit a role over reality so compelling, so vast, their influence is simply regarded as the Narrative.

Though the name is used at the risk of inflicting existential crises, citing the Fourth Wall offers an applicable frame of reference to contextualize a force over reality capable of transcending universes. If universes are a tier of continuity above timelines, “canons” would be the next tier. So while vast, a Narrator is still bound to comply to the same guidelines they enforce upon their sphere of influence, or canon, within abstract margins best compared to the Fourth Wall. As a point of reference, the Narrative titled “Homestuck” is regarded on this blog as “Canon.” Likewise, any expanse of reality must be regarded in relation to Homestuck as if they were speculative fanfiction until interaction with Canon-- or Dubious Canon-- verifies that they coexist without continuity error. Even a reality that directly descends from Canon must be treated as a separate Canon if governed by separate Narrative forces, much like how some animals were classified as myth until documentation was adequate to either prove or disprove their existence.

With that said, it is also certainly possible that from any “fanon” universe’s position, they are Canon within their margins of reality and this is one of the fanons.

Apologies for any confusion or distress this may have caused any players. Thank you for reading.

[sgameplay]

Sgame titles work subjectively, to a degree. If a player can find an interpretation, a loophole, in which their Class and Aspect can apply to a situation, their powers will allow it.

There are no known limitations to which ascended Sgame players can continue ascending-- however, if interpreted as a dissolvement of the self, then any other God Tier player's ultimation can fall into the jurisdiction of a fully-developed Prince of Heart.

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Active and passive Class pairs may all have similar personal challenges to each other, but deal with it in different ways.

Mages and Seers both struggle with the harder truths they’re informed of, but whereas Seers have to learn what they can do about it, Mages have to learn what they can do about it.

Pages and Sylphs both struggle with caring for themselves, but whereas Pages have to learn to stand up for themselves, Sylphs have to learn to give themselves a break.

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Witches are often well-endowed with their Apsect since pre-session, and accompanied by a guardian who shares influence over their own Aspect. Whether or not this aligns with the guardian’s own motives, their influence may compete with the Witches' motives; sooner or later they successfully overpower the Witch, but the Witch in turn may find a way to turn it back around in their favor.

Damara's post-Scratch counterpart lived in servitude to the time-traveling gang that raised her. Feferi grew up postponing her lusus from causing her people's extinction. Jade's dog was a first guardian, a being that could be regarded as wielding the combined powers of every Class Space player, whom was later Prototyped and completed Jack Noir's rise to power.

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Oracle Classes and possession

Probably following the same logic as psychic mediums, oracle Classes are at a higher risk of possession.

By not exercising enough caution, or by exercising too much recklessness, Seers can be possessed by having opened themselves up to those whom they seek answers about.

Mages may be at greater risk for the mere likelihood that they have very limited control over filtering the Aspect-related trivia they are receptive to. For this reason, Mages may also be doubly vulnerable to life-threatening ultimations.

Lastly, by extension, Muses are also uniquely capable of possessing those in their sphere of influence-- presumably, but perhaps not exclusively, anyone who shares their Aspect-- by being the answer. Whether by the Muse or the recipient the answer is sought has yet to be clarified.

[sgameplay]

its probably nothing, but both sollux and meulin have been actively manipulated by people (sollux by vriska via killing aradia and meulin by the clown)

That could be a good place to start. When Aradia was still heavily influenced by the other dead as a ghost, she could also be added to the Mages’ list of manipulators.In which case, it could be argued that Sollux and Meulin both had misplaced trust, but Sollux is still very skeptical in general, and it would be in poor taste to blame him for placing his trust in someone who’d never violated it before.

[catchaloststar]

You can broaden the definition from malicious manipulation. Everything Sollux does is prompted or directed by someone else. He decodes Sgrub from the frog ruins text that Aradia brings him, he tracks the boondollar transfer when Terezi asks, he finally sets up the visuals on trollian when Kanaya F1-bonks him. When he’s blind, Terezi (edit: and Karkat) points out which direction to propel the meteor. Meulin is a bit similar in that she always asks permission to set up relationships or show her fanfics if they feature friends. They both act, so they’re an active class, but they aren’t proactive about it. (Compared to Seers, who are very proactive but only really “act” by directing or working through others.) (Though Mages being passive or active is something I’ve wavered between for a while, and it can easily be argued either way to suit any preferred class pairs.)

https://catchaloststar.tumblr.com/post/102316395589/yeah-so-i-agree-that-the-future-visions-and-the

Kiseki

Yeah I’ve noticed that both Sollux and Meulin don’t actually do things on their own, only when others ask them to.  I compiled some of the e

[sgameplay]

This is a very helpful addition, thank you.

And yes, I’ve been fairly certain for a while now that Mages are passively informed of their Aspect by their Aspect, whereas Seers actively inform themselves and Muses passively enlighten those in their sphere of influence, totalling three oracle Classes. Sollux always expressed dread at involuntarily eavesdropping on imminent deaths, so this is the strongest lead thus far suggesting Mages’ assigned powers.

As for what it may mean for Sollux and Meulin to “roll with the punches,” I believe adaptive acquiescence may be the term to pin it down. I can add that and perhaps disincentive [excluding hobbies] to the sidepage at the next available opportunity. Thank you again.

As a sidenote, that also means there are three confirmed oracle classes. If you subscribe to Titular inversions, the opposite of an observer could be any Class that takes action.

[sgameplay]

its probably nothing, but both sollux and meulin have been actively manipulated by people (sollux by vriska via killing aradia and meulin by the clown)

That could be a good place to start. When Aradia was still heavily influenced by the other dead as a ghost, she could also be added to the Mages’ list of influences.

In which case, it could be argued that Sollux and Meulin both had misplaced trust, but Sollux is still very skeptical in general, and it would be in poor taste to blame him for placing his trust in someone who’d never violated it before.

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While it’s been a theory for a long time that Knights represent what a session is absent of, that may not be completely accurate. For Dave’s session, yes, but he was very efficient at buying time through his hops, and even Vriska admitted that Karkat was successful at uniting his team... until all Hope was crushed. Kurloz came from a version of Alternia that was not as indulgently violent, and they blamed the failure of their session on that difference. As of postcanon, especially, it is fair to say that everyone from the B2 session, save for the Void player in Meat, seems to have been reduced to skin-deep parodies of their original personalities.

Knights may not represent what a session lacks, given that Knights take it upon themselves to provide their Aspect. Which, they have all been keenly proficient at their Aspect, whether or not their strength is in combat. Princes may better represent what a session is missing, and Knights may be the force it must weigh against.

Decision against passivity. Cooperation against hopelessness. Continuity against heteronomy.

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As featured in Team Paradox, the fanon Aspect Dust. My more basic desciptions can be found here, and their own more detailed descriptions (including their fanon Classes) can be found here and here.

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With a few divergent circumstances, such as direct intervention, the awakening of Dream Selves most likely correlates to paradigm shifts that open the player up to unbelievable truths they would have dismissed or rejected before playing the Sgame.

[sgameplay]

Hey, so I’m an ENFP, Sagittarius, and I think I’m a Seer of Life. Does this fit? If it doesn’t, what classpect would I have that would fit better?

SEER OF LIFE: actively informs self of life/vigor.

MTBI types seem to have greater influence on Lunar Sway, and Equius, Horuss, Dave, Dirk, Jade, Jake, Rose and Roxy are all Sagittarians, so signs can be any combination of Classes and Aspects.

According to the official test, Life players are lively [pun intended], and while they may not have any interest in parenthood, they have a certain maternal quality to them. This can either express as a nurturing energy, to the point of martyrdom, or as an overbearing mother-knows-best attitude.

Based on Kankri, Terezi and Rose, Seers are analytical and have a drive to study recreationally; and what they like to study may or may not relate directly to their Aspect, but they’re often applicable to everyday aspects of life.For Kankri, it’s social justice. For Terezi, it’s crime. For Rose, it’s psychology.A player’s Title reflects their personality by translating it into superpowers. A person’s passion for learning to the point of nosiness becomes an advantage if they’re growing into the role of an oracle, such as with a Seer.

So together, a Seer of Life can either be a therapist, a life coach, a helicopter parent, a nosy caretaker, or a backseat-driving stalker.

If any of these seem applicable, the Seer of Life may be an accurate match for you. If not, find common traits between players with like Classes or Aspects and what makes certain players the most relatable.

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When it comes to accuracy in theorizing your Aspect, Class, Land and Lunar Sway without the assistance of an official test, keep in mind that they are not necessarily going to align with your personal preferences. They are meant to challenge you.

Take Lands for example. Lands give a face to subjects of insecurity or trauma, while presenting them as beautiful landscapes, and its true meaning may not be clear until the player has grown well-acquainted with the planet. At their core, Lands may represent a player’s subconscious.

Karkat’s blood, a death warrant in his culture, runs like lakes and rivers on LOPAH. Dave’s suppressed trauma echoes in the metallic clanks of LOHAC. Rose’s was not so clear-cut to herself, and she admitted her first impression was simply that it was beautiful. Everyone’s first impression of their planet was that they were beautiful and suit themselves. But put bluntly from Dave’s outside perspective, the way it looked like the set for a children’s princess story later made Rose feel infantilized. Given her Class, her hobbies, and the maturity with which she is careful to present herself, Rose’s Land could imply she has insecurities about her intelligence.

When figuring out what kind of Land to expect, remember that its quest is not just about applying your Title. Your Title comes with its own self-improvement challenges, but the planet’s imagery is also meant to expose unspoken personal baggage.

[sgameplay]

After a long, burnout-enforced hiatus, Sgameplay is active again. This blog is subject to reconstruction, and has already made small updates to side pages according to the release of official Aspect and Lunar Sway tests.

Older posts will not be deleted, but may be based on outdated speculation that has since been disproven or reconsidered.

If you have been following since before this blog fell inactive, thank you for staying.

[sgameplay]

Mage of time analasys please? O_O

MAGE OF TIME: passively informed of consequence/continuity/progress by consequence/continuity/progress.

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Mages tend to not be aware when first developing that they are tuning into prophecies. For a Mage of Time, despite their desire for making progress, they may also put off tasks until pushed to do so, due having already accepted what they cannot control. Perhaps they funnel all their productive energy to one task or hobby, procrastinating on all others. They may also be resigned to all the ways in which events are already going better or worse in the future and in other timelines.

Their prophecies and insights differ from other oracle Classes in that they cannot choose the information brought to them. On one hand, they cannot pick out the answers they are looking for, but on the other they may be exposed to important answers they would not have thought to look for.

[sgameplay]

Could you analyse Prince of Life and/or Page of Life, please?

PRINCE OF LIFE: actively destroys life/vigor.PAGE OF LIFE: passively recovers life/vigor.

In this case, the powers of a Prince and Page are fairly straightforward, with the reminder that Pages’ powers manifest in more subtle but widespread ways that they may not even be aware of doing.

No Title fully details any player’s personality, but every player of a certain Class or Aspect have been observed to present the dominance, or lack thereof, of certain key traits.While both Life players are enthusiastic caretakers, Pages and Princes are on opposite ends of assertive behavior and confidence.The Prince’s pride and often entitled behavior can be a dangerous combination with their power to detroy, which is why it is important that they learn to let their comrades be their own people.The Page, meanwhile, tends to be a doormat and already needs to learn how to stand up for themself when others take advantage of their passive nature. Both may need help recognizing these problems, but it is up to themselves whether either learns respect for others or for themself.

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I really don't know if you're still around or even willing to do this,but what role would I get if I'm INTP and from a previous test,a Page of Space? I would like your opinion on this.

As stated before, I do not personally work much with using MTBI types or signs, but this sidepage is intended to simplify self-analysis.

The Page of Space has been analyzed before, but the Page’s challenge is to assert/recognize their right to be their own person and make their own choices; and Space players’ are primarily guided by productivity in their motivations and decisions.

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Hello is your blog still active? I'm not sure what a Maid of Breath does exactly ;0;

MAID OF BREATH: actively serves communication/freedom/wind via communication/freedom/wind.

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A Maid edits their Aspect to serve their Aspect, whereas a Witch would edit their Aspect to serve their allies. The two can often overlap, but sometimes even an ally could be disrupting the Maid’s Aspect and the Maid must step in.

Maids are headstrong and early developers, but they may not always be right in what they think or believe, and that can make their greatest strengths their greatest downfalls if they cannot learn to accept when they’re wrong. Education and maturation go together.