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Next time antis are being, well, antis, show them this:

So a child came to you with concerns and criticism, and rather than ignoring said criticism because it wasn’t relevant to the fan work (taking your word for this), you decided to belittle them and imply their parents should be monitoring their internet use.

Cool. Cool thing you did there. Cool way for an adult to treat a child.

I wonder how they’re going to respond the next time they see something fucked up in fandom, or worse, experience it. Like the rampant sexual harassment and assault at conventions. Do you think they’re going to talk to an adult? Or do you think they’re going to internalise it as just part of the fandom and their fault for showing up?

But hey, you sure showed that middle-schooler.

villainislemony

cameoamalthea

If a child came to OP with concerns and criticism about adult content they shouldn’t be viewing, then their parents should be monitoring their internet usage because they aren’t obeying rating based restrictions.

If a 12 year old snuck into see Deadpool or It and then complained to the threats about it, the theater would probably call their parents and report them for sneaking into an R rated movie.

Ratings are their for a reason.

Also, ‘talk to your parents/other trusted adult’ if something upsets you is good advice. OP is telling them they need to talk to an adult, their parents, not a stranger on the internet.

ardwynna

If an adult has a problem with a child’s behavior offline, a light warning and speaking to the parents is how it goes, nothing odd about that. But online, as much as we would like to have an adult conversation about how little Timmy needs to stop peeking in neighbor’s windows because he’s not ready to understand swinging and pony play yet and besides he’s breaking the law, we have to interact with the children themselves in a more direct fashion. We have to rely on them to ask their parents to step up and parent, and that’s more responsibility than some of them want to handle.

What I do find ironic about this entire situation is that the children don’t hesitate to demand that the adult fans treat them like the children they are, but when we do, they’re upset. They don’t want, “The sign means ‘stay out’ Timmy,” or “I’m going to have to talk to your mother, Timmy,” but “Pour the booze down the toilet, babyproof the house and turn the whole world into a Zero Tolerance zone because Timmy exists.” For a group that’s so staunchly anti-kink, they’re very into ageplay and topping from the bottom.

untitled23343

“…the children don’t hesitate to demand that the adult fans treat them like the children they are, but when we do, they’re upset.”

T H A T is the fucking truth right there. I get sick of hearing “I’m a minor, it’s your responsibility as an adult to protect me from seeing bad things!!” and then when my response is “stay away from my blog, stay away from my AO3, and if you aren’t old enough to be seeing occasional porn then tumblr isn’t a good place for you because it’s a poorly designed website and you’re gonna stumble on that shit”, then I’m still not doing my job.

what the fuck do you expect me to do? I really wanna know. other than tagging and slapping big, obvious warning labels on anything I post, I want to know what I’m expected to do to protect minors with internet access.

animenutcase

See, what I think is happening is that they REALLY want to not have to see the age-inappropriate things they PERSONALLY don’t like, without having to put in any effort to avoid said things. If their parents start monitoring their computer stuff, they won’t be able to see the age-inappropriate stuff they DO want to see. After all, if NSFW stuff is properly tagged, they shouldn’t have been able to see it in the first place unless they were already looking for NSFW things, right?

roselinbooks-deactivated2021032

This.

Warnings are posted for a reason. As a content creator, the extent of my responsibility is to appropriately rate and tag things that have potentially upsetting content. Avoiding those things is the responsibility of the consumer, not the creator.

If I forget to tag something, by all means, let me know! But don’t complain to me when something tagged with tw: gore contains graphic violence.

#reminder that Tumblr is rated 17+ on the App Store

kendallroy-deactivated20210425

must a fictional relationship be “healthy” or “functional”? is it not enough to simply watch two made up people destroy each other, hand in unlovable hand???

queerpyracy

y’all remember when people used to make posts on this site complaining about their english teachers requiring them to like, actually do literary analysis

and how now we’ve got people who think all fiction has to be 100% morally upright and hand-holdy or else it will lead people into sin morally astray

i got a hypothesis that those two attitudes might be connected

the-salt

Literally fandom discourse largely just comes down to kids taking shit too seriously. It isn’t that deep. It really isn’t that deep. Fandoms aren’t that serious. Stop talking it so seriously. Stop putting so much negative energy into something that literally isn’t even real or that serious. Fandoms are fandoms they’re there purely for enjoyment. Just enjoy what you enjoy, avoid what you don’t, and let others do the same. Stop taking fandoms so seriously it literally isn’t that deep and was never meant to be. Lighten the fuck up kids, life will be so much nicer for you if you do.

ereini0n

Fandom is only for fun. Anyone who says differently is selling something.

mooning-sirius-deactivated20180

For the umpteenth time: learn to separate fiction from reality. Don’t take fandom too seriously.

llamaal

and for goodness sakes the way a person fandoms doesn’t always reflect their take on dark issues in real life.

there's legit an osomatsusan anti that made some really manipulative thread of tweets on how if you ship or write/read incest BL, it'll cause either you or those around you who read it to sexually prey upon family members and it'll be the fanfic's fault. the really hypocritical thing is that they gush about a 10 year old osomatsu being groomed and raped by a criminal in graphic detail because "it's only fiction", but it's not okay for others to write problematic fic or ships???

Ship hate suggestion: Practice what you preach

#osomatsu kun #osomatsu #discourse #shiphatesuggestion #ship hate #sorry if im late posting this

Why do some people take shipping so seriously?

Like, there’s really people out there who launch whole ass investigations into someone’s blog to find shit on them and then act like the blog owner OWES them information.

You’re not entitled to those peoples lives. If you don’t like what the person makes just block them.

#discourse #ship hate #maxvid #starker #shiphatesuggestion #antishipping #proshipping

your-fave-hates-antis

YOU (the viewer) hate antis!

minecraftpng

positivity for having horror / scary interests ; various mobs

ru-tabega

If you say fiction affects reality in terms of creating and posting “problematic” content, and believe that people will be influenced by said content and think illegal things are ok, then you agree that video games cause violence

#discourse #antishipping #pro shipping #maxvid #joxkin #starker #ship hate #shiphatesuggestion #antis big mad

abessinier

Stuff kids on tumblr better relearn

1. You are responsible for your own media experience.

2. There is such a thing as a healthy level of avoidance towards topics that make you feel unwell or even (in a real-life clinical definition of the term) trigger you - but you are the one to actively take care of what you view.

3. Avoiding does not mean policing others.

4. You have no right to tell artists to censor themselves - you may criticize what others do, you may dislike it, that’s fine - but actively asking for censorship when you could easily unfollow or block a person just makes you look incompetent in your use of the internet.

5. Do not give people on tumblr or /any/ website the responsibility for your emotional well-being. Because these people do not even know you so no, you have no right to ask them to take care of you.

vesperlionheart

6. Content creators are not your parents and owe you nothing, not even a breakdown on why their content isn’t problematic. You don’t get to demand a dissertation denouncing any and everything unhealthy in a piece you don’t like. Move on.

sewercore

carosarchive-deactivated2020060

the stuff some of y’all find problematic makes me wonder if y’all ever go outside and interact with actual people

awkwardnoob

#The way some people interact with fiction is like the equivalent of a suburban mom asking for the manager

littlesystems

Fandom:

Adults: *create a space for other adults*

Minors*: *come into that space*

Minors: this isn’t a safe space for kids!!

Adults: …..uhh no, it’s not.

Minors: why are you personally attacking me personally?

Adults: ….????????…………

Minors: I know you want to fuck children

Me: *looks at fic with one character that’s in his 40′s and another that’s in his 50′s, with no children in sight*

Me: ………please get out of my house

(I still get a lot of responses to this post calling me a pedo and I am t i r e d of this bottom-of-the-barrel quality discourse)

* this obviously doesn’t apply to all minors, and to all those minors (like me, when I was your age!) that manage to enjoy and participate in fandom without calling everyone a pedophile, I appreciate you.

littlesystems

Adults: we want to write/draw porn of these fictional adult characters.

Minors: that’s not appropriate for children.

Adults: yep! that’s why it’s tagged as explicit and has a warning for mature content and also is tagged for various sex acts in case you’re not into that.

Minors: that type of content makes me uncomfortable.

Adults: we totally get that but that’s why the tags and warnings are on it.

Adults: look you even have to agree:

This work could have adult content. If you proceed you have agreed that you are willing to see such content.

Adults: so if you’re not into that type of thing then you can just skip over it.

Minors: it make me uncomfortable.

Adults: ……then… don’t… read it?

Minors: no.

Minors: you should stop writing it.

Adults: no.

farashasilver

JUST FUCKING SAYING

cakemagemaeve

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. If you’re old enough to be using the internet unsupervised, then you’re old enough to be learn how to avoid content that upsets you. Adult fans and content creators are not here to be your babysitters.

Don’t

#ship hate suggestion