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@shit-bdsmwiki-says
I hope this doesn't come across as nitpicking, but the phrase "blood family" is personal pet peeve. As someone whose son is adopted, I sure hope my son feels part of his family even though he's not related to them biologically.
bdsmwiki.info is #2 in google search results for bdsmwiki, but this tumblr is #5. :) Thanks for everyone who reblogs from this tumblr -- it really helps ranking. <3
Oh honey. :( That's not how the internet works. You must be new here.
Can we just talk about how terrible an idea “negotiated aftercare” is?
Why do I need to offer value to purchase my play partner’s decency as a human being?
Yeah, you know… it sure would be great if we had some kind of.. website… where we could discuss topics like this freely.
When I think of negotiated aftercare, it’s not that I’ve bartered for the right to have it.
It’s that we have both talked and agreed with what may be appropriate depending on how intense of a scene. If more aftercare is required it might mean altering the scene in the future, or just making sure we have enough time for sufficient aftercare the next time.
My question is, if more aftercare is required, do you receive it?
I do think it's important to communicate about aftercare needs. In fact, the other night I fucked up because my bottom needed aftercare and I didn't realize it. I should have been better about communicating with her and more attentive to her needs. We talked about it, and in the future I'll do better.
That's communication. And it's not a BDSM thing. It's a thing everyone doing sex needs to be doing. Negotiating is a BDSM-ism. It means setting a limit on the amount of aftercare you're going to give. It's when a top says, "no, I'm not going to give you what you need because you didn't specifically ask for it and then put out for it." Negotiation is defensive, not loving.
Even if the bottom's negotiation was to say "I need you to do at least this thing for me," the fact that they had to say that defensively is a problem. Negotiation is like trying to write a contract with someone who you know is going to try to find loopholes and fuck you over. Why would you play with someone like that?
If the bottom's negotiation is "give me everything I need -- period", then why does that need to be said explicitly? Isn't that part of decency?
This is part of a larger criticism of the attitude of this author: the "there is no one way" bullshit. There is a one way: the top gives the bottom everything they need. It's okay to fuck up -- the top is human. But it's important to recognize that anything less than 100% is a fuck-up and it needs to be fixed.
"No one true way" has become meaningless -- but that's a whole other rant.
There are tops whose "negotiation" is saying, in advance, "I don't do aftercare." So I guess if you play with that person and then you realize you need something afterwards, you're in trouble? But then, you agreed to no aftercare, so I guess you're screwed.
That's not a corner case; things come up in play all the time that weren't anticipated in advance. I'm sure you agree with that. In fact I'd say it's the norm rather than the exception. Negotiation isn't a good enough model.
From now on it's going to be part of my after-play MO to ask the person what I can do for them. That also means, in theory, not committing to more than one play date at an event. (But I don't think I'm going to do events anymore anyway.)
One last thing. The aftercare article also brings up this "arrange for someone else to do aftercare if you can't" thing. That sounds okay, but I've seen what it looks like in practice. A top who leaves their first bottom in pieces to go play with their second bottom is not someone I can trust.
Everyone makes mistakes, and everyone runs into unforeseen problems. I think this is about the attitude people take towards their mistakes. And what they do when an unexpected problem happens. The mainstream BDSM community's answer is not sufficient.
First screenshot: bdsmwiki.info. Second two are from http://www.boldcon.com/2014/bold-writings/mdhl/ .
Fuck MDHL. Stop trying to "reclaim" a term that was conceived as an insult. You are not oppressed!! The reason you have a categorization at all is because you oppress others and they are naming you.
"Our dynamic is neither well-understood nor the subject of workshops, classes, or conferences"
What kind of mental-gymnastics do you need to go through to believe this? I call dishonesty.
"There are many ways in which our gay brothers and sisters are our allies"
You don't need to have allies. It doesn't make sense to say you have allies. The question ought to be, who are you the allies of?
Top: Wikipedia. Bottom: plagiarized text on bdsmwiki.info, except that the bdsmwiki admin changed "LGBT rights movements" to "Rainbow rights movements". For some reason.
I'm not going to post every plagiarized article here. It would be too many. I'll just post one every now and then, as a friendly reminder that a significant portion of this wiki is stolen (with undesired bits edited as necessary, and all citations and links removed).
Seriously injured.
Is it absolute.
a definite yes.
"Chances are, it has been negotiated." Really, funny you say that. What chances? What statistical odds are there that the thing you think is rape actually is?
Because if we're going to talk chances, let's have some actual numbers. If my odds were 5% chance of stopping rape, and 95% chance of being kicked out of the event and ostracized, what ethically should I do? What if it were 10% and 90%? 50-50?
Is there any number at which it's ethically incumbent on me to stop a scene? Yes, this article says. Yes, the number is 100%. Only do anything if you are 100% sure.
Otherwise, tell "an authority figure". Because we all know how trustworthy "authority figures" are in the scene.
"That can be scary for many."
Is this a fucking onion article?
"That said,"
No, don't brush off the statistic with a fucking "that said". There is no "that said".
Here's a link to the actual study. It was conducted using Survey Monkey online, and was advertised on FetLife. There were about 5000 respondents. Despite that it was an online survey, I still think this study is far more valid than that other study (which was just a few hundred people in the Netherlands). And the analysis is decent. Even the written-in comments are analyzed.
15% of respondents said they had used a safeword or safe-sign during play and the top ignored it. And that's not 15% of bottoms; that's 15% of ALL people who responded to that question.
"That said,"
Can we just talk about how terrible an idea "negotiated aftercare" is?
Why do I need to offer value to purchase my play partner's decency as a human being?
Yeah, you know... it sure would be great if we had some kind of.. website... where we could discuss topics like this freely.
I hope that's you all. :p
Oh, I do too. I just think this article is ludicrous. It alternates between describing it as certain doom!!!1, and describing it as the most boring thing.
Besides, would you really let someone light you on fire if their only qualification was that they read how to do it on website? It's like they say, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
I can't tell if the author is trying to reclaim the term "role essentialism", or if he's just incapable of understanding words and ideas
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