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Sometimes Night Vale gets real. Scary real.
Are you a new night vale theme or old night vale theme person, a hiram mcdaniels or faceless old woman supporter, a bloodstone circle worshipper or a congregant of the church of the smiling god
Iâm in need of some daily character warm ups, so:
everyone who reblogs this byâletâs sayâJuly 31st will get a character based off their blog!
Theyâll include basic bios and physical descriptions at the very least, and I will be doing at least one or two a day until they are all finished. Â (And if Iâm really digging them I may even give them a deeper backstory or *gasp* put them in a short story!!)
Only ten days left to reblog this before I start writing these! Â Iâd love to create as many diverse characters as possible so feel free to pass this around!
hey, are you listening to Within The Wires? Are you going to do write ups about this and Alice Isn't Dead? I need more of your podcast write ups in my life.
You are, as always, too kind, dear angel. I am listening to both of those podcasts and I think that Alice Isnât Dead will get a write-up soon. I already have notes written around the time of the 6th or 7th episode, so I might as well wait till the story concludes and see how it goes.Â
Within the Wires will be challenging to write about. Fink appears to be the storyteller while Cranor is the poet (something I have suspected after reading their separate contributions to A Commonplace Book of the Weird). Iâm not sure if there is going to be a clear narrative for this podcast, which is kind of my bread and butter.Â
When did you start listening to WTNV?
Letâs have some love for the old fans and the newer ones!!
I started at the beginning, right after âA Carnival Comes To Townâ was released. My best friend recommended it to me and I binged it all in two weeks.
I started from the beginning around the time âOne Year Laterâ came out ! It took me all summer to catch up with it, and then exactly one year later after that I made this Night Vale sideblog.Â
I started listening from the beginning around the time Faceless Old Woman had come out -- I remember taking the summer to catch up and First Date had been released just as I did.
Then, I started this blog shortly after WALK was released.
Welcome to Night Vale fanart, 89 - Whoâs a Good Boy? Part 1.
WTNV Theories and Ramblings - Episode 90: Whoâs a Good Boy? Part 2
I look forward to the final episode of a Welcome to Night Vale season for two reasons. The first is because I know it will bring some form of resolution to a conflict that has been delicately layered over an entire year (although âresolutionâ is too strong of a word and I will address that near the end of this write-up ). The second is because WTNV walks a perilous, exhilarating tight rope between existential dread and life-affirming awe, and it does this best in its conclusions.
At the core of WTNVâs horror is the feeling of impending loss, that life is impending loss. The show is at its scariest when it reminds us how insignificant and fragile and submissive we are in the face of the vastness of the universe. The moments of true terror, at least for me, are when we are forced to realize that the truths and beliefs we build up are only so much dust drifting in the void.
But I love that WTNVÂ finds something uplifting even in the face of this horror. That it can find anything positive at all in tragedy is perhaps the most important lesson we can learn. Yes, the world is cruel and unjust and apathetic and impermanent. But it can also be so much more.
WTNV Theories and Ramblings - Episode 89: Whoâs a Good Boy?
Thereâs one at the door
At the gate to Damnation
And thereâs room for one more
âTil the end of Creation
While we donât have the whole story yet, thereâs much here to gnaw on. In particular, Night Valeâs interpretation of Hell warrants some special attention. And I, like a dog with a bone, am forced to give this attention.
In my previous write-up, I paid extra attention to Maureenâs mention of Hell. We donât get references like this in WTNV very often, and so we should sit up and take notice when we do.
As it turns out, Maureen was not being hyperbolic: Hell has come to Night Vale.
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I love solar-eclipse-eyes write ups. I have three things to add that are substantially less nuanced:
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Less nuanced? My angel, you do yourself a tremendous disservice. You dared to utter names like Kristeva and Lacan. Names that caused me to flinch upon reading them as if being physically struck. Names that I have long since buried in my subconscious.
My metaphorical hat off to you, my angel, for bring actual critical theory to the table.
WTNV Theories and Ramblings - Episode 89: Whoâs a Good Boy?
Thereâs one at the door
At the gate to Damnation
And thereâs room for one more
âTil the end of Creation
While we donât have the whole story yet, thereâs much here to gnaw on. In particular, Night Valeâs interpretation of Hell warrants some special attention. And I, like a dog with a bone, am forced to give this attention.
In my previous write-up, I paid extra attention to Maureenâs mention of Hell. We donât get references like this in WTNV very often, and so we should sit up and take notice when we do.
As it turns out, Maureen was not being hyperbolic: Hell has come to Night Vale.
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Oh yes WTNV actually went into the horror territory.
Wasnât one of the valid interpretations that satan is stuck frozen because he keeps trying to free himself by flapping his wings? Speaking of, wouldnât it take advantage of expectations by revealing that there is no antagonist? The hellpup being a red herring? I mean, it in itself is a thing - could it be that if it were exposed to that fact (which didnât happen before because KILL IT WITH FIRE), it would disappear in a puff of logic?
Wasnât there an episode way back with the main story being a race through a cavern? The one that was almost back-to-back to The Strangers?
We went there. We sent messages in Morse code to the people we once had been, asking for help, but they could not help us. They were outside of the Narrow Place. (âŠ) The Distant Prince wore a golden coat, and had always existed.
(With gratitude for @cecilspeaks)
Of course there was An Epilogue between, because why not ask the hellpup for coffee.
@Last Note Nightmare: in the last episode we had Cecil listening to ??? through a phoneâs speaker. This episode we have us listening to ???⊠through our speakers/headphones. Make of it what you will.
Yes, you are quite correct. The great irony of the Devilâs punishment in Hell is that he continually beats his massive wings to try and free himself from the pit, but in doing so, generates an impossibly cold wind that traps him more completely in ice. But that Dante imagined the depths of Hell to be filled with ice rather than fire (which is more typical) is a critical symbol of the distance from God,
I agree that there are probably some surprises still in store in terms of how Night Vale treats the Strangers and their terrible, adorable leader. However, it is also important (at least for me) that WTNV has a truly evil figure -- not something weâve really had. Every antagonist has been tinged with a bit og a backstory...while this hasnât excused their actions, it has made them more sympathetic. And while I do agree that everyone has a different perspective, it is possible that this âwanting nothingâ is reprehensible enough to warrant true villainy in the world of Night Vale.
Other antagonists have just been opposing sides of the same coin. The Good Boy wants total annihilation, which is quite a different thing.
Iâve also wondered about the Distant Prince. There are several obvious similarities between that story and this one, so I doât want to sweep it under the rug just yet.
WTNV Theories and Ramblings - Episode 89: Whoâs a Good Boy?
Thereâs one at the door
At the gate to Damnation
And thereâs room for one more
âTil the end of Creation
While we donât have the whole story yet, thereâs much here to gnaw on. In particular, Night Valeâs interpretation of Hell warrants some special attention. And I, like a dog with a bone, am forced to give this attention.
In my previous write-up, I paid extra attention to Maureenâs mention of Hell. We donât get references like this in WTNV very often, and so we should sit up and take notice when we do.
As it turns out, Maureen was not being hyperbolic: Hell has come to Night Vale.
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ânothing that suggests an existence of God or Heavenâ
Like,
Beings who are definitely not angels?
Who took Old Woman Josieâs salt for a godly mission?
Who grant âangelic protectionâ?
Who are radiant and impossibly large and have wings?
When the City Council in the very first episode announced that âthe structure of heaven and the angelic organizational chart are privileged information known only to the city council members on a need-to-know basisâ?
When everyone learns about angels in seventh-grade Transmigration Studies, and there are âreligious textsâ that talk about angels?
Yeah, no God or Heaven here in Night Vale.
Ew, what an ill-mannered response. Bad form, my angel.
I will, however, blame flaws in my writing. My intention was to stress that there was no opposite for the Good Boy. My central idea is that the Good Boy shares much in common with the Christian version of the Devil (while still subverting or adding to the mythology).Â
That version of the Devil usually comes with an idea of Lucifer being the Adversary to Godâs benevolence. We donât have a God figure in WTNV. The only one we get is the Smiling God, who actually does share some things in common with the Abrahamic God...but not ones that make it an opposing force to the Good Boy (the Smiling God is not even clearly sentient).
Thereâs also no place in the afterlife that is reserved for people who live good or righteous lives (as we conceive of Heaven). There are quite a few places where mortals can go after they leave this world in WTNV, but none of them are âheavenlyâ in the sense that they are an eternal reward or a loving place or even permanent. Dead people in Night Vale actually show up frequently as ghosts.
So, yes, we have angels (who donât appear to work for anyone but themselves and Old Woman Josie) and a couple of instances of the word âheavenâ or âgodâ but nothing that quite matches what we get from the Good Boy in this episode. Youâll forgive an old blogger for using a touch of hyperbole, Iâm sure.
WTNV Theories and Ramblings - Episode 89: Whoâs a Good Boy?
Thereâs one at the door
At the gate to Damnation
And thereâs room for one more
âTil the end of Creation
While we donât have the whole story yet, thereâs much here to gnaw on. In particular, Night Valeâs interpretation of Hell warrants some special attention. And I, like a dog with a bone, am forced to give this attention.
In my previous write-up, I paid extra attention to Maureenâs mention of Hell. We donât get references like this in WTNV very often, and so we should sit up and take notice when we do.
As it turns out, Maureen was not being hyperbolic: Hell has come to Night Vale.
WTNV Theories and Ramblings - Episode 88: Things Fall Apart
Todayâs episode title is ostensibly borrowed from W. B. Yeatsâ poem, âThe Second Comingâ. Written in the aftermath of WWI, the poem offers a bleak look at the future of the world â considering the advent of a second World War about twenty years after the poem was publish, Yeats was prophetic in this vision.Â
Just as Yeats saw a lingering sickness in post-war Europe, this episode reminds us there is, too, a lingering sickness in Night Vale.
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a thing struck me here: you said that the call cecil received in the end, after calling maureen, the one that was only breathing and muffled groans, was chad. was it confirmed officially or what, or was it said in the episode itself but i somehow missed it?
I havenât seen that confirmed anywhere. Some possible sources of breathing Iâve seen suggested are Chad, the beagle itself, and one of the Strangers.
The Strangers would make the most sense to me, since audible breathing is kind of their thing, but Iâm not sure if they can dial a phone much better than the dog, so maybe itâs Chad. Who knows?
yeah the breathing (for obvious reasons) and that sort of scream (as it was said that perhaps the strangers are in so much pain that they canât do anything but stand and breath) made me think it was a stranger, it was said they turn people into one of them, and it was directly after cecil super worrying out of the blue about carlos, so basically it made me think it was carlos, being turned into a stranger, calling him in his last moments.
so thank you for giving me other ideas, aka tiny precious slivers of hope
I agree that I made an inference about Cecilâs final phone call that was not directly stated in the episode. Hereâs my reasoning:
The Strangers donât appear to be able to do much, and so I assumed the making a phone call would be beyond them. They also donât have any motivation to call Cecil -- Lucia tells us in Past Time that they donât want anything. Anything they could accomplish in a phone call could be accomplished (to greater effect) in person.
Cecil says he doesnât recognize the number, so I donât believe itâs Carlos transformed. This is not to say that Carlos is completely safe, but that a threat of this nature would be more effective from Carlosâ own phone number...but then we are at the same problem about Strangers making phone calls.
Iâm not sure why thereâs confusion about the noises heard -- thatâs a dog yelping or baying, perhaps with some distortion added. I donât hear screams, just the dog.
I know that Chadâs beagle is not necessarily an actual beagle as we know the animal, but it seems silly for it to be dialing a phone. I think we hear the dog because it is rarely far from its owner, suggesting Chadâs presence.
Lastly, I feel like it really was meant to be a thinly veiled threat. Cecil calls Maureen and canât reach her. This is immediately followed by a call to interrupt Cecilâs voicemail.
Things Fall Apart: The Sequel
I guess I kind of forgot two important things in my write-up. Letâs call this the Miscellaneous section.
1. I neglected to mention the most important representation of the Apocalypse, the one thing that, above all the other examples, is the chief moment that âthe falcon cannot hear the falconerâ, that communication has broken down, that Cecilâs power as the narrator is at a low point, that the Strangersâ form of communication is dominant over all:
Cecil forgets to say âI love youâ at the end of his conversation with Carlos.
Fear not! There is still hope. He notes:Â
My love was implicit in the way was talked to each other. Love neednât be verbalized when it exists in intuition and physical contact. He knows I love him.
Acceptance of nonverbal communication. Realization that emotions do not need words to be real...that nothing needs words to be real. Presenting love as something that can be shared in stark contrast to the Hell that the Stranger share. This. This is what good writing is all about!
2. Things Fall Apart is also the title of a Chinua Achebe novel about life in a small African village that is overtaken by British colonialists. I would put this firmly under my tinfoil hat section, pointing towards something with StrexCorp, our much maligned corporate colonizers. However, we could more simply connect it to the invasion of the Strangers.
Without spoiling too much of the novel, the protagonist ends up doing something that goes against the very core of his beliefs and customs in order to frustrate the colonizers and deny them victory or ownership over him. I wonder if this is what we can come to expect from our protagonists? This would be a good way to reject the Night Vale of the past and to embrace a better version of Night Vale for the future -- which is what Cecil has wanted to do all along.
WTNV Theories and Ramblings - Episode 88: Things Fall Apart
Todayâs episode title is ostensibly borrowed from W. B. Yeatsâ poem, âThe Second Comingâ. Written in the aftermath of WWI, the poem offers a bleak look at the future of the world -- considering the advent of a second World War about twenty years after the poem was publish, Yeats was prophetic in this vision.Â
Just as Yeats saw a lingering sickness in post-war Europe, this episode reminds us there is, too, a lingering sickness in Night Vale.
In an act that is just super benevolent, Strex is giving all workers a day off today for a company picnic!
do you plan on listening to Alice Isn't Dead?
I do, my angel! I even wrote something about the road as metaphor (and how itâs played with in the most recent episode). Maybe I will post it one day!
EYERYONE BREAK OUT THE CHAMPAGNE CAUSE S.E.E IS BACK!! We missed your theories, man/woman/angel of incomprehensible characteristics.
Thank you, my angel. Iâm afraid I canât keep up my posting schedule as I have in the past, but I will do my best to be around more frequently.
And hey, I have plenty of comprehensible characteristics. I have eyes, certainly. And also words. Yes. Eyes and words. Isnât that all that humans are made of?