TW: Minor cursing, graphic violence, racism, fatphobia and antisemitism.
Plot summary: The new kid decides to go camping with the other kids, however, they have to choose whether group is the best for them: Cartman’s group or Kyle’s group!
Story format: It is a script styled fic(just like how episodes from the show are normally written)
Character Creator
Name: It is up to the reader to choose the new kid’s name but all the characters will solely refer to them as the new kid or any other "rude" nickname(e.g: douchebag).
Age: 9-10(just like the rest of the main cast and the other 4th graders from the show)
Gender: Determinant(the new kid’s gender is not exactly relevant to the plot, so they’re going to be referred by they/them pronouns only, but again, it is up to the reader to decide their gender)
Voice: The New Kid can actually talk in this interactive one shot but as I said with other examples, their voice is up to the reader’s interpretations and preferences.
Overall Appearance: You can customize the new kid’s physical appearance on both of these South Park character creator websites(or just stick with the characters you made on Stick of Truth, Fractured But Whole, etc.):
SP-Studio
Create your own South Park alter-ego or make one of your family and friends! When you're done, save it to your computer and use it on your w
The actual story
Intro:
INT. THE NEW KID’S ROOM – DAY The New Kid is sitting on their bed as they’re playing shitty mobile games(you know, those crappy candy crus
I think Wendy is the better enemy of Cartman than Kyle is. Kyle seems too willing to believe his lies and sympathize with him and seems to want to be his friend regardless of all the bigotry and evil selfish shit he does. Wendy has no such weaknesses. She outright despises him which is why she wins.
I don't think this person understands kyle or how he interacts with cartman. it's not that kyle is too willing to believe cartman and sympathize with him. most of the time kyle doesn't believe what cartman says, he calls his bluff, lets him know when he's wrong, and kyle isn't naive, he might be gullible and prone to manipulation in the way a lot of the boys are, but it takes a lot for him to feel sympathy for cartman, it's not a common occurrence
and it's not that kyle wants to be his friend. kyle has made it clear he hates cartman and all that he stands for but chooses to hang out with him because he's just a part of the friend group. kyle is the kind of character that chooses hope and the belief that people can change and be better so he thinks if he helps cartman maybe he'll change his ways but the tragedy is cartman is incapable of actually changing which is why in post covid kyle refuses to believe cartman turned his life around
genuinely I think this person just wanted to hype wendy up which is fine but why are they disparaging kyle's character to do so :sob: like they can talk about how they like wendy without making things up about kyle to try to make him look bad!!
I don't necessarily think it's that, kyle is making excuses for cartman when he isn't, it's that kyle is a good person who sympathizes with everyone, not just cartman
and they're forgetting something important which is that kyle is designated as cartman's rival because he will fight with cartman over everything
wendy will fight with cartman if it affects her or something she cares about
examples: weight gain 4000, dances with smurfs, breast cancer show ever
and wendy not falling for cartmans manipulations has nothing to do with her victories. it's in how she chooses to play the game
in breast cancer show ever she's determined to fight him until he gets her parents involved but after a talk with principal victoria she sticks to her original plan
in dances with smurfs she chose not to engage with his bullshit until butters stupidly decided to mess with her house and then wendy changed her game by playing the same sensationalist tactics cartman was using to flip the script to make herself look sympathetic and make the outcome better for herself
wendy is better at not falling for cartmans bs because she isn't around him as much as the boys are
I think that person sees an enemies situation as "good person always wins, bad person always fails" and that's good for certain stories but with the way south park works it would get boring quickly the reason well one of the reasons the kyle and cartman enemies dynamic works is sometimes kyle wins sometimes cartman wins and when cartman wins in an episode it makes a kyle victory episode more satisfying because we as the audience can sympathize with him after seeing him go through a loss
To be fair, I still think Kyle is a much better character than Wendy, but even then, I don’t think anon is trying to bash Kyle or say he’s a "bad person" for falling for Cartman’s lies, though them saying that Kyle keeps making excuses for his behavior is something I have to disagree with
Cher Horowitz (Clueless) vs Kyle Broflovski (South Park)
Cher Horowitz
Kyle Broflovski
Voting ended onJul 16
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Cher Horowitz (Clueless)
she is generally beloved and and icon, and i get that her being jewish wasn't actually mentioned in the movie, but with that name and some of the references in movie? but fandom never really goes there, so, erased i guess?
Kyle Broflovski (South Park)
In what way isn't he a victim of fandom antisemitism? Despite Matt Stone being a secular Jew, South Park has always been a bit contentious on tumblr for obvious reasons. However, Kyle, partially based on Stone himself, does tend to subvert a lot of stereotypical traits of Jewish men commonly found in media. He's assertive and athletic, while also being considered one of the smartest and most sensible boys in his class. Yeah he has his issues, but he and Stan (the character based on other co-creator Trey Parker) tend to be the most sensible characters.
In fanworks, Kyle's Judaism is either almost completely erased or portrayed in the most stereotypical and over the top way possible. He's a popular blorbo for young gentiles to project onto, which often leads to them assigning him certain traits or features that carry some deeply unfortunate implications to anyone familiar with the history of how Jewish men are portrayed. For example, he'll often be reduced to a pathetic nerd who can't get a date, who's been pining over his (generally male, despite the character having the most canonical girls who've been interested in him) love interest. Many times (as in it's his second most popular pairing), said "love interest" is Eric Cartman, a character that's canonically called him a K***, dressed up as Hitler multiple times, and tried to incite genocide. He's also often written as sexually submissive in deeply fetishistic ways. Out of all the main characters, he'll often always being the one getting pregnant in Mpreg, or being the Omega in Omegaverse. In the hands of a skilled author none of these are an issue per se, but none of these gentiles are particularly skilled, and end up just recreating medieval blood libel for the modern audience.
Meta is also awful. Often Kyman shippers, needing to justify why they can't get enough of shipping a Jewish kid with a nazi, will write screeds on how he's just as bad as this kid. They're convinced he's actually jealous of the way he can persuade people, not that he's infuriated that this kid is blatantly antisemitic. "Sneaky" and "underhanded" and "duplicitous" are words I've seen used. Some Jewish and gentile fans have spoken against it, but often these people point to the few Jewish Kyman fans to say they're doing nothing wrong.
I'm aware there's a lot to critique about South Park and how it handles Judaism. However, whatever you might think about the show, the fandom is infinitely worse, and Kyle's been probably the most egregious victims of fandom antisemitism I've ever seen.
Bonus points for his parents, Gerald and Sheila (two of the more competent parents in town both consistently presented and satired as liberals) being portrayed in multiple fanworks as evil and abusive homophobes who his gentile love interest (usually his best friend Stan or the previously mentioned antisemitic Cartman) must save him from.
The fandom is a lot of young and ignorant gentile kids, so it's extra brutal.
listen, the show itself is cowritten by a jew and you can tell he's making fun of antisemitism when he writes it in. the fandom, on the other hand, is full of people who do NOT FUCKING KNOW how to replicate that style of humor or how to adapt it into more serious fanwork. which cant be helped i suppose. but have you seen some of the kyman fanfiction out there.
kyle unironically sparked my interest in reconnecting with my heritage when i was younger (not raised observant, i was like 12ish) so i love him dearly even if part of the joke is that the jews in south park aren't actually portrayed accurately :(
