I want you all to notice the language that this person uses here in order to position themself as an intelligent man/masc dealing with an unintelligent, unruly Black trans woman. I'll highlight these more as I break down this response, but also botice that they're the one going after me, whilst claiming that I'm the one trying to hurt people. Notice that they're talking about my "entire online personality" being hatred, meanwhile they're the one who had to make a whole separate account to harass transfems. This is classic conservative ideology, something that these people are heavily dependent on whilst claiming they are not.
Almost as much as it would suck to be reduced to stereotype by your own community and still somehow treated with the same disrespect by those people as before you transitioned.
Since you want to group us in with cis people and transphobes, I find it pretty fucking stupid that you're whining about this. Especially with "birthday boys", "scissor tits" and shit like that still being a main part of your propaganda.
This person is positioning themself as being oppressed by transfems, and blaming us for the societal forces that make life difficult for transmascs prior to transition. Ironic for someone who complains about being compared to cis people. The language you use also continues to highlight your rancid misogyny, in particular the use of the word "whining" when speaking about a Black trans women discussing transmisogyny.
"Birthday boy" was a term specifically coined to highlight the way that trans men will antagonize, belittle, and harass trans women until they snap back, and then act like they're just a smol bean victim that didn't do anything wrong. Interesting that you want to treat it as an insult rather than highlighting a pattern of behavior from transmisogynists. Hit dogs holler, eh?
"Scissortits"/"zippertits" has never been used by a transfeminist literally ever. It was used by a TERF on Twitter once and because transmisogynistic transmascs are practically best friends with TERFs, they turned and blamed it on trans women instead.
I wish you could see from a normal persons perspective how god damn stupid you sound. "All trans people who aren't fem are evil and they want us all dead!" Real life trans people called, they've never fucking met you.
So, fun fact. I live in a third world country where being trans is highly frowned upon in a way that you couldn't even imagine, and there is no legal, financial, or medical support for transitioning. It's not even a possibility within the country. If we want to physically transition, we have to do DIY HRT or go to another country to receive gender affirming surgeries (extremely expensive).
This doesn't mean I've never met another trans person in real life, because I have. But we don't get to just form communities and meetups like you do because it is actively fucking dangerous for us to do so. And furthermore, it is because I have met real life trans people who live in the same conditions I do that I have recognized the disproportionate difference in how many transmascs there are + how they're treated vs. how many transfems there are + how they're treated.
You are nothing but a yankee shitstain and a blight on "real life trans people" who don't have access to the same resources you do. Your idea of a "normal person's perspective" is just xenophobia.
Maybe you COULD talk about how you've been silenced and belittled. If your whole online personality wasn't doing the same shit to a community that has been marginalized for their entire fucking lives, regardless of race, culture etc.
Notice the framing here. Firstly, the "maybe you COULD," as if women need a man's permission to talk about misogyny. I've already covered the "online personality" thing. "Wasn't doing the same shit to a community that has been marginalized for their whole lives," making it clear that they do not believe transfems have also been marginalized for their whole lives.
You act like they all do something wrong by just existing. When they create a term for the specific type of oppression they face, you claim it's not even real and create insults to harass those who share their grief.
Transandrophobia isn't real because there is no form of oppression that is specific to transmascs. There is no "intersection" between transphobia and misandry because the latter isn't real. Misandry is not real in any way shape or form. It is not a form of systemic oppression, it never has been.
Misogyny is a real axis of oppression, which is why terms like transmisogyny (transphobia/misogyny intersection), misogynoir (antiblackness/misogyny intersection), and lesbophobia (homophobia/misogyny intersection) exist.
Transmascs coined "transandrophobia" not to describe an existing form of intersectional oppression, but to have something "just for them 🥺". That is why transandrophobia is not a real thing and never will be. What transmascs experience is transphobia. And any "misogyny" they experience is due to them being gendered as a woman, which happens due to transphobia.
You're a transphobic piece of shit. You are the cause of the infighting.
It's infighting when a trans woman points out how she's oppressed by people who benefit from transmisogyny. This is why I say more "trans infighting." Because it's not actually infighting, they're discussions that need to be had.
Notice how I never claimed every single trans woman or fem does this? That's because I have fucking sense, and I am not interested in further hurting my own community, like you seem to be.
You didn't need to. We can already tell by the language you use in this post how much disdain you have for a trans woman who you don't agree with. You don't think every trans woman does this because some of us are too scared to fight back, and you want as many of us scared as possible. "I have sense" more casual misogynoir I see! Framing the Black trans woman as a hysterical bitch because she got too uppity.
It's disgusting. Even if you don't see other trans people as your community (Which would be ignoring historical facts and also show you lack common sense, but it's kinda too late there), it's disgusting shit to say.
"Ignoring historical facts" I don't even need to argue this point. Even if you're only focusing on western queer history (which you clearly are) it would show that transfems experience hostility in queer spaces even from transmascs- sometimes especially. This is just you being willfully ignorant if not deliberately altering history to benefit your arguments. Oh and yay more microaggressions with the "common sense" shit, you just really need to get across how unreasonable and unintelligent you think this Black woman is!
I realize you really wanna feel special, but blaming every other trans person for trans misogyny is fucking stupid. You're not helping, you're hateful.
"I realize you wanna feel special" coming from the crowd that coined a label making a mockery of intersectionality because they wanted to feel unique and special 🥺 I was born into a world that hates me, I think I should be allowed to hate back tbh.
We have sisters. At least I do. Because I know the value of my fucking community. I understand history and the state of the fucking world I live in.
And I'm not an entitled sack of shit
If this is how you treat your "sisters," I fear for them and sincerely hope they do not consider you a brother. Because you are a dangerous "brother" to have.
One last microaggression for the road, pretending that the Black woman and third worlder doesn't know anything about the world she lives in (the world is antiblack, transmisogynistic, and western chauvinist and this has reflected in my entire fucking life. I hope this helps). With some anti-feminist language emphasizing "entitlement" as well
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