hi. so i made a haikyuu fatherless tierlist based on that one comment i left on your fic, rife with all my juicy hot takes.
it took me like two hours bc i was genuinely contemplating so hard LMAO. there's certain nuances to fatherlessness, you see, so pinpointing all of them was very difficult. i categorized purely based on vibes, so disregard any possible canon discrepancies.
red tier was by far the most obvious. i mean come on. just look at them. another name i had for this tier was "DNA is a single helix" but i was worried no one would get the joke.
orange tier was actually pretty difficult. it mostly started off as a joke tier, meant to be a stand-in for a different tier name, but i decided to keep it lmao. funnily enough, the two i was most certain about for this tier was tendo (pretty obvious) and hinata's middle school teammate (whatever his name is). i don't even remember his names or anything he did, but. just look at him. no dad in sight. kunimi might be a controversial take, but i just Know he's secretly a big softie for his mama (and ONLY his mama) deep down.
orange-yellow tier was another easy one. pretty much all the flippant characters, or the well-adjusted ones, or a secret evil third thing (akaashi). ukai is actually the reason this tier even exists bc it's so obviously tailor-made for him.
yellow tier was also pretty easy. i dunno why but i feel like these characters would just have a lot of feelings about their fatherlessness.
yellow-green tier was the second easiest after red tier. they're all kinda??? the same font???? if you reallllyyyyyy squint. just the wholesome, friendly giants. and fun-sized iwaizumi. the masc part is mostly just for iwaizumi tbh. he definitely has a super butch mom that calls him 'squirt.' everyone else can honestly fit into any type of lesbian dynamic, just as long as there's two moms.
daddy issues galore is definitely my most controversial tier lmao. but to start off easy, the last three are pretty obvious. at least, they felt that way to me. for ukai sr., the way he's so soft on kids just makes me think he's been thru some Shit lmao. it's always the old grandpas who've seen the nine circles of hell in their own home. coachi washijo in the same way, but that explains his initial coldness with children/teens. suna was a toss-up bc he feels soooo fatherless, but i'm also VISCERALLY aware that he hates his dad. he just does ok.
i know what you're gonna say, "kyoutani's dad introduced him to volleyball how could he have daddy issues???" and to that, i say, have you seen him??? have you SEEN the way he behaves??? the way he trails after older male classmates bc he thinks their cool?????? the way he's so desperate to prove himself????? that one old guy from the community center that sorta looks out for him?????? oh, the fallout with his dad must've been DEVASTATING. absolutely soul-crushing. literally give me a 700k introspective fic about growing up and realizing your parents aren't as great as you once believed them to be, but still cherishing all the good moments in your heart bc those were some of the happiest times of your life.
oikawa having a bad relationship with his dad is honestly a pretty common trope in fics, i've noticed. i was actually pretty surprised when you mentioned in that one comment (which is what inspired this entire monstrosity in the first place) that you thought oikawa was fatherless lol. i dunno. he's just like a professional hater LMAO. i think that level of haterism can only be born from your home life before anything else.
hoshiumi actually took up the majority of those two hours i spent making this. categorizing him was SUPREMELY different. i literally couldn't get a single read on this guy. but what i DO know is that he really loves his mom. and i think he loves his mom to such a degree that he ends up hating his dad lmao. and not like, oh haha dad you're so lame how'd you ever pull mom. no, like, he genuinely believes his father is a disappointment.
many different types of daddy issues here, as you can see.
aqua tier is just people who i think have two normal parents. no crazy beef. no existential horrors. no boatload of complex feelings. they have two parents, and that's that. they probably like their mom a little more bc moms are just the best like that. i made this tier specifically for tsukki bc i love the idea that he has a very lovely, normal family, and he's just salty for the hell of it. no childhood trauma needed. he was already a hater from the get-go.
daddy's girl was another easy one. might tie with lesbian moms for second easiest, honestly. ushijima is the most obvious one, bc well duh. daichi is so nice and reliable, he sorta deceives you into thinking he must be surrounded by a lot of women in his life (i initially had in lesbian moms). but idk, sometimes his boyishness peeks through? and you really get the vibe that he has a super awesome dad instead, one that he looks up to and strives to be more like. michimiya is so daddy's little princess to me, but like, in a wholesome way not the freaky way LOL. she's so sweet and awkward yet wants to look strong for her peers, not really in a stoic way, but more in the "i have so much love to give, i only want to show you my love not my pain." i feel like she grew up especially loved.
hmm kuroo was actually a little tricky bc he was another one that i couldn't get an exact read on him. i cheated a little and looked up his canon family relationships in the manga bc i couldn't remember at all. and honestly, only dad and grandparents seems SO spot on. he sorta acts like a wise old geezer sometimes lmao. and for some reason, i can vividly picture him having a couple beers with his dad when he's an adult. he just seems like the type of son that's super buddy-buddy with his dad lol.
mommy issues was another easy one. yachi is pretty obvious. sakusa kinda surprised me bc i just misclicked and accidentally put him in this tier, but it feels meant to be. coach nekomata was the very last person i sorted and i literally just threw him in here bc i was tired from all the mental gymnastics. but also have you seen young nekomata? that sorta pretty boy-esque beauty MUST come with underlying mommy issues. he and oikawa sit at the same table but at COMPLETE opposite ends. matsukawa's placing is purely based on his post-timeskip version. no one works in a funeral home without growing up with some sort of freudian nightmare.
and that's all! my life's work. my magnum opus, if you will. lmk if you disagree with anything lol. i'd love to hear your thoughts.
(i can't believe this is what my life has culminated to.)
Oh my god, hi. I canāt believe Iām barely seeing this Iām so sorry, apparently I donāt get notified for asks. This is so so so good, words canāt even describe it. I love this so much.
There being different flavors of fatherlessness is so funny & so true. I think if I had categorized them blindly, lād have come to way different conclusions, but seeing yours & getting the justifications makes me agree with most of these, & yeah, I get you on categorizing on vibes; I think Tobioās dad is literally mentioned in his flashback chapter, but thatās not canon to me bc it just doesnāt fit his characterā¦
dna is a single helix is funnyyy, and so is mother reproduced asexually. Hinataās & Tobio I agree with you. I feel like we already discussed Tobios parents, but to summarize; A Grandpas girl, would be a mommyās boy if she was present. The Miya twins I have to say I disagree!!! For me, itās important for them to have a dad they have beef with š he was lousy when he was around, and eventually their mom breaks it off (when theyāre. 13. ish.) & theyāre like āFinally. Fuck that guy!ā When he lived at their house theyād make a scene of doing good things for their mom, loudly proclaiming itās the bare minimum, any decent guy would do it for a lady as lovely as their mother, among other things. A lousy father as in a scrub (tlc song), but also the word the twins love to throw around so much, whoās lazy and doesnāt do crap for his wife, and they see that & theyāre like. Fuckkk this guy, Iām going to be nothing like him. So I guess thatād put them. God, of the categories you listed, Iām not sure š I wouldnāt say daddy issues, but definitely (kinda recently) fatherless, so Fatherless but donāt care?
āHas never felt the love of a fatherā and theyāre all so vastly different, and it all makes sense. (lol the title from your comment, itās seriously so good.) Noya #1 grandpas boy. (Wait. #2. I forgot about Tobio for a sec.) Tendo, obviously. (Okay. Apparently I didnāt know it name either, I knew Koji is his soccer friend, which made him Izumin, but I googled it to be sure and thatās not even his name. Itās Izumi. Izumin is just what Hinata calls him š) Izumi makes sense! Or if he does have a father, heās a pretty gentle, if not effeminate guy. I do not mean that negatively. Iām going to stick with my roots!!!! Tooru goes here, to me. His level of haterism being born at home Does make sense, however. (Iām maybe biased bc Iām actively writing her, but,) I think heās the type with a strong single mom! I think if he had a dad he was a hater towards, heād be less inclined to be the serial casual dater that heās often characterized to be. (He seems like the type whoād accept confessions pretty easily in hs, but it wouldnāt ever last long bc of how into vb he is, but I think heād be a better bf if he had a father as an anti-rolemodel) Admittedly, I havenāt actually read any fanfics with him having daddy issues, which is also maybe why we disagree. Also Matsukawa as a Freudian nightmare is so so so funny. Iām going to say his mom was just kinda goth & her family were the spiritual type, which maybe actually did give him a pretty bad complex, yeah. So for him, never felt the love of a father but Also mommy issues, imo. Yaku liking girls with short hair is such bad reasoning from me, but Iām going to say that type of mentality comes from being around lesbians. Iām also taking short hair as a masc cut, not a bob. No, I agree about Kunimi. No father, but heād be a mommyās boy either way. Everybody else, Yeah.
Fatherless & doesnāt care, obviously everybody in the two categories above it, and ukai being the person who inspired it is perfect. I have to say Iād put Tsukishima Kei here, instead, also. I donāt remember whatās canon in the manga, but we never see him in the anime & that makes so much sense to me. It also would make his betrayal from his brother worse if he was kinda his brother-father, which. Yayyy whump. Besides that, perfect categorizations, no notes.
In the fatherless & Does care, Tsukishima Akiteru.. he seems like the type who is missing a father & misses him. I think their mom & dad split up when Kei was like 2, so Akiteru remembers him (only the good parts), & Kei doesnāt, nor does he care to. To me, Tanaka was mostly raised by his sister, thatās her boyyy, so I think yeah, theyāre both pretty Parentless & do kinda care. Everybody else, yeah I agree lol. Itās kinda obvious just looking at them.
Lesbian moms but thereās a clear masc ššš Asahi goes perfectly here & so does Bokuto. Everybody else goes here really well, too. & then I said earlier that Iād also put yaku here!
Daddy issues galoreā¦ i already disagreed with Tooru, but Kyoutani is so real. Growing up & realizing your parents arenāt as perfect as you thought.. & still cherishing the good momentsā¦ kyoutani kentaroā¦ people often writing that he has abusive alcoholic parents always kills me I hate that so much, let a guy be grumpy!! Goddd itās so funny that in a world of weird hair styles, we Know he dyes his hair to look like That. And his fucking eyeliner!!! Hellooo daddy issues. Only listening to Iwaizumi š keep it in your pants brother. & how he didnāt like the prior 3rd years.. okay.. doesnāt like authority figures. That one older guy who sorta looked out for him is the most damning evidence.. found fathering when you have a dad at home.. thatās crazy. Ukai sr & Washijo being here is so funny & so real. Iām going to say Washijo is the flip side of Hinata! He had the āsameā skill set, but none of the support, he probably had a dad in his ear everyday about how heās too short & should just quit already, which is why he turned out the way he did. Ukai Ikkei being so soft on kids! āI had to go through xyz, so Iāll make sure you guys donātā champion. Ukai Sr & Nekomata being opposites.. real.. Nekomata pretty boy with mommy issues & Ukai sr as a ruggedly handsome guy with daddy issues.. thatās my #1 old man yaoi. A rivalry going on for that long isnāt just a rivalry, youāre also Gay. The last guy, yeah. Wannabe delinquent, I see you. You can be fatherless & hate your dad!!! Suna I canāt really read though, so Iāll just trust you & same for hoshiumi š thank you for the time you spent on him bc I donāt even know where to start. But yeah, loves his mom so much he hates his dad, I can see that (thatās kinda what I meant for the Miyaās, but their hate isnāt unfounded at all).
Prefer their mom tier. Omg Iām sorry, I mostly wrote this as Iām seeing it for the first time (only checking what tier you put the people who I thought were missing from an above one) so I didnāt see that you made this tier for Kei š. Okay. I can see & enjoy that heās just salty from the get go, no reasoning behind it, and I agree! That heās a born hater, haterisms run rampant in his veins. But I still really like Akiteru caring abt being fatherless & Kei not caring + having Akiteru as a brother/dad. Sorry š. Everybody I really agree with, except Terushima. I donāt think a normal couple would let him run wild, especially not with that dyed hair, tongue piercing, and pretty bad manners. Plus heās kinda way too into their manager, lol. Wait was that his team?? Fuck my memory is so bad.
Daddyās girl is my favorite tier. Okay Iām lying I love them all. But this one is so good. Ushijima. God, obviously. Kuroo as well. (Iād say they both hover somewhere between daddyās girl & mommy issues!) Kuroo does act like a geezer lolll, but he backs it up with his genuineness. Heās provoking people, but is willing to apologize. His whole thing is that he wants everyone to love & have fun playing his sportā¦ Dad + Grandparents, and then kinda imprints on Nekomata, lol. Daddyās girl canon šÆ. Daichi is so real! He really does act like heās around so many women, but the boyishness does peek out! I think itās summarized in the way he interacts with Kiyoko; heās respectful, her friend, and sees her as an equal, but he lets Tanaka & Noya get away with a lot, as the captain, and is obviously (kinda?) into her? (Can I say, though, that I hate that he grew up to be a cop. To me, Firefighter.) Michimiya growing up loved! Daddyās girl! Princess! Real. Handing over that charm to Daichi, cheering on the boys team, but is obviously a captain & a reliable/strong one at that, on her own! Other two, yeah šāāļø
Mommy issues.. obviously Yachi, but I think they grow up to be a lot closer. Sakusa.. man. Mommy issues is probably more prevalent in him, but I think he has a dad who he also isnāt close/getting along with. Idk I just get that vibe. Itās interesting that he gets along with Ushiwaka so well, besides the strength/hygiene stuff, they can probably relate on not being too close to their parents. (Ushijima isnāt really around his dad too long, for how much he was molded by him) Nekomata, agree. Issei, yeah & is fatherless. Other three adults, hmm yeah sure, I donāt know/care enough about them so Iāll take your word for it š«”.
Okay. It was hard to add anything other than when I was disagreeing because you covered all your bases, so I was just sitting here & nodding my head haha. Iām sorry again for how late I am, I can post on this acc w/out switching over from my main, but I have to manually switch to see notifs which Iām so bad at.
Thank you for sharing this with meee š«¶š«¶š«¶ besides having volleyball in common, and being pretty gay, something most of them share is some kind of parental issue, so this is so so great.
(Now give me a moment to respond to your ao3 comment š, I got to read the email yesterday but left my house at 7am & I didnāt get home until 2 am then knocked out as soon as I got here. And Iām just waking up (well, almost 2hrs ago (when I started this reply) š) so one sec ššš)
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