CJ Photography aka Ryan Christoph Images
Web: http://crjphotography.com/
Web2: http://ryanchristoph.com/
FB: https://www.facebook.com/christopherJphotography
FB2: https://www.facebook.com/cjphotographyco
FB3: https://www.facebook.com/crjphotographywa
FB4: https://www.facebook.com/pages/CJ-Photography-TX/770261529667261
FB5: https://www.facebook.com/cjphotoTN
FB6: https://www.facebook.com/CJPhotographyWV
FB7: https://www.facebook.com/rcimages
FB8: https://www.facebook.com/rcphotoandvideo
This one is probably going to ruffle some feathers as people are going to have opposing views on whether this is full-on theft or just a bit shady. Since more than 80% of the image (often near 100% of the image) is not CJ Photography's original work AND since he's presenting the image as entirely his own (without permission, I've checked in with the original photographers and outside of the stock agencies he's not been granted permission to use the original works in this manner) I'm going ahead with this.
CJ has got some attention recently from running a camera giveaway that involved a like-a-thon on Facebook and his images caught a few people's interest because they didn't look natural although CJ claims them to be. Note that most of the images you are to share to win the camera aren't his but that fact is buried but is there, kinda, so I'm not listing them. Combined with the fact that he's less than a year into the business things started popping in people's heads and at least two people have investigated and brought some info to me.
CJ aka Christopher Jones posts quite a lot of amazing images yet dodges every singe question about where his location was and how he found such amazing light. Instead he talks about his one-on-one classes he offers to learn how he works. This is what finally sent me to post here as I hear he runs a newbie photographer group and sells his workshops to them. Folks, you aren't going to learn how to shoot like this because the shot is a composite that is heavily photoshopped. This isn't out of camera work.
Yes some work here IS stock but some images he used are NOT stock and he did NOT get rights to use the images. Nor does it sound like he licensed them correctly but I am awaiting on replies in regards to that. I have been in contact with all of the photographers and most have got back to me already stating that Christopher Jones did NOT have permission to use their images in this manner.
Let's start with this sunrise image that CJ claims to have been worth waking up early to capture. (this has since been deleted) The comment with the photo is "I would say the sunrise at 7:30 with the storm moving in was pretty awesome... This was actually a test shot."
Someone woke up early but it wasn't CJ. Original source. This is stock so there's a grey area here but stick with me OK? I am starting with this one since he plainly states he woke up early for this image.
Facebook Q&A regarding this image. His answer is very... unclear?
Note the comments. I like the one asking how he kept her normal looking and everything else is bursting in color.
Original source. Note the no commercial clause.
Since I'm already knee deep.
A mini session ad on the WA page.
Since Christopher has claimed the mini session's template was sold with the stock images, here is the listing from the Etsy seller whom he purchased the file from. Note the lack of these images.
Since posting this Christopher is claiming that *only* these 9 images were composites. I must wonder then why this cover image is gone that was originally part of his Facebook? The original landscape has been too heavily edited for me to easily find a source for but I am still on the lookout.
We're going for at least 10 now.
Original source (notice he flipped the image)
I can't find the stock site source but it's a stock image, here's one of the locations it can be seen.
FB Page Status on 12/20/13 around 5:00PM EST. Note this contradicts with Chris's claims that he wasn't online until 11-12PM on the 20th. I am sure he'll claim this was an "admin" acting on his behalf but I thought I'd add this just in case.
10% of unoriginal work is 10% too much.
With that post his main Facebook page disappeared shortly after.
I got a letter from Christopher himself at the same time. Never mind the fact that he claimed to have got up at sunrise for images... it's now a matter of proper licensing. Not sure where the non-stock images come into play. Or the fact that there's more than the claimed 9 composites he said he ONLY had. Or the mini session template being sold with the stock images. Or where in the heck loving Jesus and his kid come into this? I really do love the comparison to running photography businesses like being in the music business. The Rockstars are preening now. Good thing WPPI is around the corner.
Chris is back again after disabling his FB account the other night.
If you've been following his defense has gone something like this:
• I didn't do what they are claiming. 90% of what is here is mine.
• Only the 9 images posted were the ones I composited. [When I found more after he posted this claim, this is when he disabled his account]
• I've always been transparent about the images being composites.
• The only thing I did wrong was not get the correct licensing.
• Everyone else uses stock images to promote mini sessions.
• I removed the images because I wanted to protect the artists whose work I used.
• I love Jesus and my kid and you are hating on a good person and destroying everything I've worked for this year.
• I didn't steal, I made a mistake with licensing.
• I'm still giving away a camera.
When I first posted this "photojournalist photographer" (Chris, do yourself a favor and go read the definition of photojournalism) I was a bit scared because he had SO many likes. Sure I've taken on heavy weights in the industry before but I knew quite a lot about them before I posted about Doug or Jasmine. I had never heard of Chris specifically, only about the weirdness surrounding his camera giveaways and uncanny timing of the theft of his gear. It's been interesting to see that not very many are defending him. I didn't screen capture all the comments but all of these images were always presented as original works completely captured by Chris (or an employee) himself. There were dozens of people always asking for locations and he'd often reply but skirt the issue but allowing people to think he'd found this magical field with dramatic sunset just off the side of the road somewhere in Georgia. He never once told anyone that this was digital art and NOT photojournalism. Then there's the whole workshop debacle. Let's just say he leaned heavily a la Rob Adams on someone else's training guides. I'm still waiting for more to present that all to you.
Final point is the first image that I posted. Read the original description. That is decidedly NOT transparent about these images being composites.
He's taken the page down again after I updated this post. His website is also down to the bare bones.
Last night I received this message from Chris. I wasn't going to post it because I honestly don't care that much and I have lots of baking to finish up but since he keeps talking about his reaching out to me and not getting a response I figured that I may as well post the messages I chose to not reply to.
Note that he's confessing that the things I posted about ARE true. He didn't get the correct licensing for the images he sourced for compositing. I am not responsible for what people say or do in the comment section. My favorite bit is about the money I've cost him. That's what this all boils down to in my humble opinion.
This morning I received this voicemail:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7632014/voicemailcj.mp3
After I didn't reply to him yet again (why would I when he's telling everyone I am being sued?) he posted this:
Again, he confesses that he didn't properly license the images nor gave credit for the stock images on the mini session advertisement.
I have not deleted anything that Chris has posted. People have been watching this page with popcorn in hand I'm sure and haven't seen a thing. If anything's been deleted it's by his own hand.
My lawyer has been made aware of everything but we've yet to hear from CJ's lawyer.
Chris has also sent some threats of lawsuit out to people whom have commented on this page and on Facebook. Please contact me if this includes you.
Chris has been interviewed by Gary Fong and the story has been picked up by Peta Pixel. Chris is blogging his side of the story on his blog.
There's also been a lot of kicking of rocks.
He's rebranded himself as Ryan Christoph Images and has a new FB and Website (linked above). When he found out I had linked the new info... he got a little angry.
The post is gone now (of course) but it made me laugh to see what his version of what happened is. What was even more interesting was seeing his fans comment over and over how he needs to stop posting about this because it's annoying and childish. Those were quickly deleted of course.