love in greyscale

is it multifandom or is it just my inability to focus on one thing at a time? find me rambling about my favorite fandom content, mostly shipping <3

[strangelysilver]

"Omg, I love [queer ship]! :D"

"So you have a problem with [straight ship]? >:("

:(

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i think i would have preferred characters dying to this fuckass finale

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guys I'm gonna say it... s3 was so much better

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ST5 finale so bad it got me agreeing with Vecna and isn't that fucked

[sunsetblast]

Some people keep saying we don't like the ending because Byler wasn't endgame, but y'all need to stop pretending the only thing wrong with the show was Will and Mike not ending up together. They gave no further explanation on why the mind flayer picked Will in the first place, they wrote a whole ass canon play about the big bad guy that was pretty much ignored in the show. They didn't show Patty even tho she was the whole point of Henry's story, they had Joyce kill him without giving a single acknowledgement to the fact that was someone she knew, in fact all of the people that went to school with him talked about Henry without ever acknowledging that was the same Henry they went to high school with. They had all these repetitive lines in season 5 that led nowhere "bring light to the darkness" "Will powers are innate" all that bulshit circling back to November 6 and then not diving into why that would be important. They had Mike say Will was "sorta like Vecna" and Will tell Henry he was just like him for it to mean fuck nothing in the end because I guess is easier and cooler to decapitate the bad guy than actually write some depth into the character. Also are we supposed to believe the mind flayer is dead? They didn't give any scenes to show it is alive but we can all agree it is, right? That shit they killed was just like the shit they killed in season 3, by the way that was pretty much the same final battle than season 3, like a the same fucking shit, they threw fire in it from the top of the hills the same way they threw the fireworks from the second floor of the mall, Vecna died being pierced through the heart just like Billy was. Honestly to God why are you reheating season 3 nachos in what was supposed to be the big finale. I could seat here for days talking about all that was wrong with it and not even mention Byler even tho they did so many things wrong with that storyline.

[strangelysilver]

god literally this like I'm a huge byler fan but I was a huge st fan first, and this is just such a disappointing end to a series I really loved

Like it goes beyond byler. Byler is the tip of the iceberg of shit

[strangelysilver]

Media literacy so dead it's looped right back around to commonplace. Having media literacy is the new media illiterate. You don't need shows to smack you in the face with everything they want to say? Actually, you're the one who's wrong. Shows always want you to take everything word for word and if you don't you actually just lack media literacy.

[strangelysilver]

Will fell first-- fell slow and graceful, like a snowball carefully rolled through the snow, gradually increasing in size.

Mike fell harder-- goddamn avalanche hit him in the face with that demogorgon blood. St. Mike looked like a peaceful mountain, but actually, it's got lava, and that volcanic activity just said surprise! snow and rocks in your face!

[strangelysilver]

I think we need to bring back the "if Will was a girl" exercise for all my bylers in doubt and haters out there.

Because if Will was a girl, literally nobody would be questioning Byler right now. I mean, wouldn't it just be so romantic if Mike's childhood best friend saw him in danger and unlocked her hidden powers to save him? And she draws her strength from a flashback of them as children? Then when the dust settles, the camera pans to Mike's awed face?

The setup is here. Milkvans are going to cry "reach" until they straight up kiss on screen, and maybe even then. Genuinely, this is just in your face at this point.

There are three main anti-Byler takes that I've seen, now that most people have watched Vol 1.

The Tammy speech means Byler is one-sided.

I think Bylers have made some pretty good counterarguments to this point already. In my opinion, this take is a little too straightforward for Stranger Things. I really think it's a red herring. It feels underwhelming for Will's feelings to be built up over 1.5 seasons and then just cut down by a self-acceptance arc midway through S5.

2. Byler flirting was awkward/Mike didn't push back or reciprocate Will's teasing

This one is just weird to me. I honestly wasn't aware that this was a take people had until I went online after watching. Mike doesn't push Will back, sure, but the look he gives him isn't ambiguous at all. The way it was filmed clearly did not insinuate unrequited love. I mean, sunset lighting, Mike's soft voice, them giving each other shy looks? I genuinely can't come up with an explanation as to why people think this scene was awkward other than "they wanted it to be".

3. Mike's look at the end of Ep4 is just his excitement at realizing that his best friend has powers

Like, sure? If this was real life, maybe. In a TV show where they have to deliberately shoot and choose Mike's reaction? Again, if Will was a girl I don't think there would be half as much doubt over this shot. His best friend just saved his life by thinking about them and he has stars in his eyes. I swear people forget that cinema is intentional. Honestly, the fact that Will specifically sees Mike about to die through the demogorgon and that's what sparks his powers? If Will was a girl, people would be crying "reach" if you said it wasn't romantic.

Actually, even better. If it were El in Ep4 instead of Will? Zero doubt. Mlvns would be jumping for joy. They'd be clowning on anyone who didn't see this scene as extremely romantic.

Hopefully this cleared someone's Byler doubt because I'm genuinely sick of seeing "that look was obviously platonic" when it's actually the most cliche character-gets-motivated-by-seeing-his-love-interest-in-danger sequence ever.

[aconiteandausten]

somehow haven't seen anyone point this one out yet??

[strangelysilver]

almost wish I hadn’t seen this aw man

[strangelysilver]

For Robin, letting go of Tammy was what let her finally accept herself.

For Will, holding on to Mike, not letting him die, thinking about his memories of them-- that's what let him finally accept herself.

[strangelysilver]

Byler doubt is really just a greater symptom of the absolute epidemic of poor writing in media, because if all TV shows were written well nobody would doubt Byler endgame. Think about it.

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Now why would Will ask Robin how she knew that Vickie was into her if Byler wasn’t endgame? Sad traumatized gayboy misreads signs and gets rejected? Jesus christ 😭

[gothmikewheeler]

"eyes on me" "eyes on me remember" and suddenly he's 13 years old watching men with guns get torn apart by demodogs and he doesnt want these kids to see that. he doesnt want these kids to remember that the way he does. holy shit. mike wheeler.

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king 👑

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forget all the complicated analysis they held hands over a dick pipe is that not enough for you

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If Will's whole arc this season was self-acceptance why hasn't he been rejected and why has he already accepted himself Ep4 :/

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The people saying that Will accepting himself is the end of Byler crack me up, because if there's one thing this show has proven repeatedly, it's that relationships suffer when people aren't being true to themselves.

Think about it-- Jancy are struggling right now, because they're hiding from each other. Lumax suffered in S4 when Lucas wasn't being true to himself and Max was isolating herself. Mileven was rocky in S3-4 because El's whole arc was finding herself, and Mike was repressing himself. Byler suffered during S3-4 because both Mike and Will were hiding parts of themselves.

Personally, I don't think Mileven is even together anymore, because they seem to be doing much better. Maybe, because they're not trying to be something they're not.

Byler won't happen until they've both accepted themselves. Will has-- now we get to see what happens with Mike.

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To anyone saying that Byler is one-sided because Mike didn't push Will back: did you SEE the look on that man's face? are we watching the same show? he EYED him holy shit