My fellow Dick Grayson stans, there are people voting against dickroy just because they don't want Dick to win. Need I remind you that DC once removed Dick from their sexiest man contest because they thought he'd sweep and win. But that was unjust because how are you going to crown a sexiest man without actually including all the sexiest candidates? UN. JUST.
And now people are against Dick again just because what? He's too good of a complex character for them to understand? He's that bitch in canon that everyone respects? He's too fucking cool for them to get on board with?
And now they're making dickroy suffer for it? Ha. Hahaha.
No.
Don't let the Dick Grayson haters win. Vote dickroy as a middle finger to them.
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I love when people play with the idea that Dick and Jason are bound together by a father that no longer exists. It's something only they can relate to each other on. If one of them goes down, the surviving one loses the one other person in the world who understood what it was like to have Bruce as a father before trauma flayed the skin from Bruce's bones.
Let's imagine a world where Jason's crime lord persona had been fully developed after events of "Under the Red Hood", meaning a Jason that tried to kill Bruce and was then *betrayed* by him after choosing saving the Joker.
Jason would still have that distant relationship with Dick, the "what we once were can no longer be because I know you no longer", but if he were to lose Bruce to something non related to him, something that he had no hand in, he would feel pain for the man that once was and that man, that parental figure that can be mourned, is shared with the Dick that he once knew.
So, there would be a connection and a situation that would open a door to test the waters with the man that he once called a brother and looked up to. If he does so and finally realises that he has blinded himself to whom Dick actually is, he would definitely feel a sense of "we know what we lost" and "we can build up from here".
What I am trying to say, perhaps, is that Bruce in more than one point has been indirectly an obstacle in Jason's pursuit of a relationship with his brother (dare I say, the only one he would view as such). Bruce dying to something non-related to Jason or even the superhero world would be the best way to have opposing forces like pre-2009 Jason and Dick come together and see that they would not have been as radical with each other as the other thought.
Then, angst and drama would ensue until those two stubborn little shits come to terms that they are not that different within their own morals.
I was going to make a detailed analysis on how TLOU 2 is a story about Joel even though he dies at the beginning of the game but then I decided that I don't WANT to be rational. He's a fucking BADASS who does the most INSANE shit out of pure LOVE. I LOVE HIM. HE'S MY FICTIONAL MAN. HE JUST WANTED TO PROTECT THE ONES HE LOVED. I WILL DEFEND HIM WITH MY LIFE.
I feel like we are not getting a lot of steven as much as both marc and jake, like what motivates them and such. Having said that, what would your aproach be at developing steven both personally and in his relationship with jake and marc?
Btw, your blog is still my favorite one in all of tumblr, I look forward both to new releases and your commentary after every single one <3
Hello! And thank you so much for the ask and for hanging around! :D I am immeasurably glad that this blog is something that sparks a little joy in your life. 🤍🖤 As for Steven, I see your point! You actually brought up something I've been mulling over deep in my brainpan for a hot minute, so (as always seems to happen when I answer asks whoops), this got a little long. There's a bit of preamble on how I came to my conclusion, but I'm pretty sure I more directly address your question in the second part, so you can just skip to there if you'd like hahaha
Part I: Preamble
Not to hijack the whole lunar theme, but Moon Knight comics do go through phases and one type of phase involves some authors giving a bit more panel time to one of the guys (e.g. Jake in the first volume of Vengeance of the Moon Knight, Steven through a lot of the first Moon Knight volume as I recall). Currently, we're in a phase of focusing a bit more on Marc and, while MacKay's work on Moon Knight has been some of the most consistently enjoyable comics I've encountered in a while, I do miss Jake and Steven. Steven in particular, has been a little out of focus. On the one hand, I can kind of see how that happened. After how previous authors chose to portray him, my interpretation is that Jake's character needed a bit of time dedicated to returning him back to his essence (but that's a whole other kettle of worms). Additionally, I will always be the first person to rail against comic characters getting pigeonholed by editorial as having a certain "role" within a comic and once that role's been fulfilled elsewhere, editorial struggles to know what to do with that character and potentially discards them entirely (or worse, warps them beyond recognition, but again, I don't need to be bring up here how salty I am about how Marvel editorial has treated other characters hahaha) and I believe that might be a bit of the case with Steven. For a long time, the guys' dynamic was understood as Steven makes money and high society connections, Jake makes friends and underground connections, and Marc makes uuuuuh let's say "extreme bodily harm to his enemies" and is not really fit to be seen in society due to, you know, the crimes against humanity. Now that Marc's lost all of their money and, in a turn of events frankly more miraculous then his multiple resurrections (perhaps to no one's greater surprise than Marc's), established himself and the Midnight Mission as upstanding parts of the community, Steven's two main "jobs" in the reductive sense aren't as easily inserted into the narrative anymore.
Part II: Actually Answering Your Question (Sorry)
HOWEVER, even beyond my never ending love for Steven just as he is, I believe there's more to explore.
Particularly, when I first read your ask, the first thing that popped up in my head was this page from the most recent Moon Knight annual:
Moon Knight Annual (Vol. 5/2024), #1.
Historically and including in Moon Knight (Vol. 9/2021), #24, writers have portrayed Steven as the respectable one who wants to settle down, but this idea that Steven's just as much a thrill seeker as Jake and Marc -- it just manifests differently -- greatly intrigues me. As such, personally, I would LOVE to see more of Steven's work on the logistical side of things. They don't need huge sums of cash to throw around; Steven's probably just a bit more adept at understanding how financing both legitimate and illegitimate ventures work, so he can either direct them or manipulate them as necessary. He can be messing with criminal finances for Moon Knight work in ways that carries just as much risk as pounding the pavement. Authors have alluded to such things previously, with Mr. MacKay highlighting how critical finances are to continuing the Midnight Mission's work in the community and how Moon Knight can even use them for fighting crime.
Moon Knight: Fist of Khonshu (Vol. 1/2024), #0.
This little gem of an infinity comic actually addressed the topic even more explicitly.
I get it, white collar crime and financial maneuvering is a lot more difficult to make appear exciting in the comic medium as opposed to, say, fisticuffs or edged weapons. In my opinion at least though, this is cool!!! Marines make jokes about their organization's history of struggling with logistics, but that underlines how critical that aspect is to making sure anything can operate effectively! Using the full range of skills and resources available to most efficiently execute justice is just something that feels very Moon Knight to me. That interpretation also helpfully supports my argument that Steven should be just as involved in Moon Knight work as Marc and Jake, just in an "occupational specialty," if you will that looks as different from what Jake and Marc do as how different Jake's networking looks from Marc's....very kinetic approach to problems.
Accordingly, I guess I would just like to see Steven utilized in the narrative more as the "scalpel" of the trio. There is a time for everything, including Marc cracking skulls, Jake shaking hands and slapping backs to collect HUMINT, but also for Steven's precise and surgical approach that can dismantle a whole organization perhaps without even any bloodshed. After all,
Moon Knight (Vol. 9/2021), #25.
Steven's got his own way of doing things.
I guess, ultimately, is it too much for me to ask that Steven, Jake, and Marc be all equally valued for the unique skill sets they bring to Moon Knight? That they support each other, particularly with how wonderfully complimentary those skill sets are? hahaha
When I first experienced The Last of Us: Remastered, I was utterly captivated by how astonishingly realistic the graphics were. The moment Ellie appeared on screen, I was immediately enchanted by her unique personality; a charm that I found utterly endearing. Her design seemed so perfect, so integral to the game itself—she was perfect just the way she was rendered in the game, with every subtle facial expression and character quirk brought to life in vivid detail. I couldn't picture her any differently.
But then, with the arrival of TLOU: Part 1, the flames of passion for the game reignated. Through fresh, appreciative eyes, I fell head over heels in love with it all over again. Ellie once more captured my heart, her renewed appearance filling me with sense of authenticity. The remake became something special. Immersing myself in it, I no longer felt like I was merely playing a game—suddenly, the lines between fantasy and reality were blissfully blurred as the lifelike characters began to feel disturbingly realistic.
My first contact with the game was through a playthrough and it was in its original version (PS3), I loved it then, you could feel their emotions through the voice acting and that was powerful, the use of professionals made the game feel real although its graphics lacked detail.
When I came across the game again (with a different look), I came across the PS5 Remake and to that love I had felt for the characters through VA I could also now feel it through the incredible new design that also provided us with characters that showed a vibrant range of emotions on their faces.
It wasn't that I didn't like their previous character designs but the new ones felt more like them, truer to their characters (if that makes any sense).
Every scene felt like I was watching it for the first time, like I got a second chance at enjoying (and living) it, now the outstanding voice acting was accompanied with the most devine graphics and it enhanced the game tremendously.
From getting to see Sarah and Joel's last moments, to Joel showing a range of emotions on his face when Tess convinces him to leave, to Ellie looking like a kid her age... The remake proves why it was necessary.
Truly an added improvement to an already legendary video game.
I want steve rogers back for selfish reasons (retconning an ending that undermined ten years of character development) but also for funny reasons such as seeing wolverine across the street in nyc and yelling LOGAN !!!!????
steve: if i had a nickel for every time i find an old friend from the 40s who i swear was dead, turn out to be alive. i'd have 2 nickels. it's not a lot but it's weird that this has happened TWICE
How about 3 nickels if we add a crossover? Billy Batson (Fawcett Comics character that got bought by DC), used to go into war zones as Whiz Kid during that time period.
So that would make Steve, Steve's bestie, another fellow soldier, plus that one crazy kid who somehow didn't age. More if we add the Suspendium Incident where Fawcett City got frozen in a giga big bubble for thirty years because of Dr. Sivana.
agent scully we have decided to assign you to the weird shit department to debunk some weird shit are you familiar with an agent by the name of spooky mcpooky nobody down here but the fbi's most unwnted were you sent to spy on me look at my projector slides that i definitely didn't spend all morning working on hhhhow's youur CHEMISTRY radio goes beep boop what if we made intense eye contact in the middle of exhuming a body steven spielberg sure hope this gray metallic implant doesn't come back to haunt me later BILLY MILES hmmm weird dirt and freckle tramp stamps...must be aliens WE LOST NINE MINUTES oregon mosquitos be built different would you like to hear about my childhood trauma what if we made intense eye contact while i rant about government conspiracies you gotta love this place everyday's like halloween BILLY MILES the vegetable??? please stop talking crazy at 5 am in the rain or im gonna fall in love with you hahaha summoned by some alien impulse it's definitely normal behavior to call your coworker of 1 week past 11 pm and tell her you can't sleep oops i think you accidentally became the center of my universe see you tomorrow
sorry to make you pissed i mean to explain why its not all bad! i explained why jason and damians relationship should make sense as brothers from talia caring for them when in the LOA because they can relate that way! im explaining why its loved when red hood lost days explains jason in the LOA and its hard and he should understand what damian lived in because of that, and they had talia as a mother to them. writers should write them in a better relationship when they remember that, and why theyre so popular as brothers is what im explaining
Jason and Damian had very different experiences. I can't see them relating to much if anything from the LOA at all, actually.
Jason had severe brain-damage while he was with Talia. We don't know how cognitively aware he was during that time. He didn't spend his time there the same way Damian did while growing up. He mentally and physically couldn't. Sure, Jason could fight in defense, but that was about it.
That went on for a year. And then Talia shoved Jason in the pit because, otherwise, Ra's would've made Jason leave. And right after shoving him in the pit, she then took Jason to the river and hurled him in the water with a survival kit. She did meet up with him after that and also gave him mentors to learn from, but otherwise, Jason was on his own.
"Mother" is a strong word when it comes to Talia's relationship with Jason. She wanted him to get better. We saw her have an emotional beat with Jason. We don't know how involved she was with Jason pre-pit otherwise. He could've mostly been left to his handlers for the majority of the time. And using Lost Days as an example of Talia's motherhood to Jason is rich considering she had sex with him.
Yeah, I was going to mention that last part because I enjoy the mark that left in whatever that relationship was, it is such an uncomfortable *thing* that it has made it incredibly difficult to classify their dynamic and I love that.
Furthermore, if we are thinking about Lobdell canon/lore, Talia left Jason with the All-Castle on secret and fairly quickly. It was such a quick decision that the LoA OR better said LoA's associates didn't even train him in the new canon (the new canon being the one that fanon uses as base to link Jason and Damian in a twisted *positive* light).
So, Jason and Damian haven't shared any sort of similar training, not in the good old days and certainly not in the new canon.
I understand fanfiction's whole thing is creating more and building and exploring but fanfiction isn't fanon and fanon is what's messing up everything, we lose every grasp of comic lore and build something that never was but we still slap a known name on it for it to matter.
Comics have different levels of...good and Jason has been a victim of less than good canon lore for years but that doesn't mean we have to act like things that never happened are real or would have made sense because there is simply no *time* or *space* for them.
ALSO and I promise this is the last thing, there is nothing to better. Relationships are intrinsically complex and sometimes just not good because that's interesting and bold. Having yet another set of found family within this mess of bats and whatevermore just makes and contributes to DC's eternal estate of bland and flavourless-ness.
Let's bring back areas of gray or completely untouchable dynamics, let's just leave things un-fixed. Let characters be flawed and incorrigible and wild.
