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Glad there are people who understand that

[alwaysbewoke]

here is why this is NOT true. white people are MARRIED to the racial construct that is “whiteness.” not flirting, not dating, not texting, not sexting, not engaged to.. married. long term. and as such they make decision in favor of their race out of motivation to see their race succeed. they’ve built an entire country on the premise of giving white people a leg up on everyone even if it meant the use of brutal force in additional to lies, half truths and etc. this is the very basis of whiteness upon which white people of built their idea of self. you CAN NOT be pro-black without being anti-white because pro-blackness calls for the destruction of white supremacy and white privilege which undergirds whiteness and white identity. it’s like stokely carmichael said “for racism to die, a totally different america must be born. this is what the white society does not wish to face; this is why that society prefers to talk about integration. but integration speaks not at all to the problem of poverty, only to the problem of blackness. integration today means the man who ‘makes it,’ leaving his black brothers behind in the ghetto as fast as his new sports car will take him. it has no relevance to the harlem wino or to the cotton-picker making three dollars a day…. integration, moreover, speaks to the problem of blackness in a despicable way. as a goal, it has been based on complete acceptance of the fact that in order to have a decent house or education, blacks must move into a white neighborhood or send their children to a white school. this reinforces, among both black and white, the idea that ‘white’ is automatically better and ‘black’ is by definition inferior.”

there’s a reason why whenever black people talk about racism, white supremacy, white privilege, white ignorance, white inaction and etc, white people overall lose their shit. the reason is because white people have built their entire sense of self on whiteness which is built on lies and oppression. to be pro-black is to be anti-white. as long as white people define themselves in any way shape or form with whiteness as a social construct, pro-blackness will ALWAYS be ANTI-WHITE. always. 

and bullshit like this just makes wonder why? is still about being in white people’s good graces? why? after EVERYTHING white people have done and continue to do to black people, why the flying fuck do you care of your pro-blackness is anti-white? this is some fuckery to still care what your slavemaster still thinks about you and your movement to gain your freedom. reminds me again of what stokely carmichael said “black power can be clearly defined for those who do not attach the fears of white america to their questions about it.“ 

you think such nonsensical thinking is going to stop white oppression? white people see racism as a zero sum game! and millennials? millennials are just as racist as their parents! 

and please, miss me with the “not all white people” nonsense.

[deathanddeers-deactivated202108]

I like how OP’S message was positive and actually seems like it came from the concept of equality but then….this person chimes in and reminds me of everything wrong with this movement’s members and why I don’t care to associate with it. Good job. -Billy

[askrednetthall]

As an educated black guy sadly I somewhat have to agree If you want an example of how the second person’s rant is true my step mom who is very successful knows a lot of white people but doesn’t associate with a lot of black people and when she was naming my little sister she named her “Madison” instead of a “ghetto name” in fear that when would not get a respectable job simply on her name. *Sigh* Really this mindset is made because in a way it is the only way black people will have any way of getting ahead even if it means stepping over the one who can’t

[alwaysbewoke]

your mom had to be conscious of how white people would treat your sister because white people who have adopted whiteness (which is the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY) aren’t going to call back your sister if she submits a resume with a black sounding name. that’s white people because that’s whiteness. you can not be pro-black without being anti-white because these are the social norms and constructs that white people not only have created but continue to perpetuate till this day. 

as someone with hiring power, i go out of my way to look for black people to hire because i know that my hr department filled with WHITE PEOPLE aren’t going to give tyrone, laquisha, malik, kenyatta or kiesha a fucking chance no matter how talented they are. why? because white people have been programmed by whiteness to see black people as inferior. to fight against that will bring head on with white people and whiteness.

however let’s be real. there’s no changing a group of people who can’t even admit that enjoy privilege in this society, can never admit or do right by natives, made a holiday celebrating a man who discovered nothing but killed and enslaved thousands (if not millions), etched into the side of a mountain racists and slave owners, turned “monday” into a slur, responds to any highlighting of their own criminality with “what about black on black crime tho?,” and made it a point to silence black people responding to a history of brutal racist policing with “all lives matter.” hell white people are powering the push the presidency of a man who has been so over the top with his racism, it feels like a throwback to the 60s and 70s when white people running for office would say shit like “elect me and i’ll make sure no nigger…” so no, this post isn’t for white people. i expect them to come up with all types of excuses. truth is not a part of their culture. it’s for black people to wake up and stop worrying about white people and whether or not they think the black movement for our liberation is “anti-white.” fuck’em. we owe them NOTHING. and guess what, it’s going to get anti-white because nothing about whiteness respects blackness. so stop trying to please them.

lastly, if you’re pro-black and you don’t make white people nervous…

[blackourstory]

I fux with @alwaysbewoke forever for breaking this reality down to its most essential. In a country founded upon white supremacy being pro-Black IS being “anti-white.” And if you, as a Black person, can only be your pro-Black self when/if you can balance that with white folks feelings in mind… just go ahead and become a 100% generically American dark-skinned white person. That’ll be easier for you than attempting to become a cracker-approved pro-Black person.

[alwaysbewoke]

[playygrl-deactivated20221219]

This is hard to agree with. Because I for sure don’t give a damn about the approval from white people, but I’m not anti-white. I can sit down and be around white people. I have white friends. I find some white people genuinely fun to be around. But these are white people who respect me and my opinions, who never cross that line of being disrespectful, or who are blinded by their white privilege. You don’t have to dislike white people to love yourself.

I’m pro black because I’m black and I love it and I stand behind it and it’ll forever be apart of me in every aspect and I accept it. It don’t have shit to do with a white Person.

I don’t hate white people, I just love myself.

[beyonslaying]

^^^there we go

[alwaysbewoke]

@aherringwrites  

you’ve decided to overlook a very important part in my statement. white people who have adopted whiteness. whiteness as an ideology has no respect for blackness. that is a historical fact. across the world, white people who have adopted whiteness have belittled, raped, plundered and even murdered people of color. “whiteness” isn’t “i was born white” or “i’m a white boy, girl, man or woman. whiteness is a way of viewing yourself, the world, your relationship to the world and the resulting cultural norms, ideas, policies and actions that come out of that. as such whiteness hold no regard or respect for blackness and the vast vast vast VAST majority of white people have adopted whiteness. worse still, whiteness as an ideology is something adopted by even NON-white people as well including black people (see stacey dash, don lemon). it is something that can also be rejected as well as adopted and no truly anti-racist fails to reject whiteness.

this is what whiteness does to black people

WHITENESS WON’T GIVE BLACK KIDS IN NEED OF PAIN MEDICATION THE AMOUNT NEEDED BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE BLACK PEOPLE CAN JUST HANDLE PAIN!!

WHITENESS IS KILLING A 12 YEAR OLD BLACK KID PLAYING ALONE WITH A TOY AND THEN DEFAMING HIM BY CALLING HIM A THUG AND BRINGING UP HIS PARENTS CRIMINAL HISTORY!!

WHITENESS IS SHEDDING TEARS OVER A GORILLA BUT TELLING BLACK PEOPLE THEY SHOULD SHUT UP ABOUT BEING KILLED BY COPS!!

WHITENESS IS DEMANDING THAT BLACK PEOPLE MOURN THE DEATH OF COPS WHO MOST LIKELY WOULD PROFILE THEM, ABUSE THEM, KILL THEM AND COVER IT UP!!

WHITENESS IS CREATING THE MYTH CALLED “BLACK ON BLACK CRIME” AND USING IT TO HALT ANY DISCUSSION OR MOVEMENT AGAINST THE VIOLENCE OF WHITE SUPREMACY!! (MORE HERE & HERE)

WHITENESS IS WHITE PEOPLE OVERWHELMING GIVING AMERICAN POLICE A POSITIVE RATING WHILE THEY KILL US!!

WHITENESS IS SAYING THAT THE BLACK PANTHERS WERE JUST LIKE THE KKK!!

WHITENESS IS SEEING RACISM AS ZERO SUM GAME!!!

WHITENESS STARTING A FALSE DRUG WAR TO STOP THE ADVANCEMENT OF BLACK PEOPLE!!

WHITENESS IS DESIRING TO GO BACK TO THE 1950’S SO THEY CAN LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE BLACK PEOPLE ARE MORE OPPRESSED!!

WHITENESS IS WHITE PEOPLE CREATING GHETTOS THROUGH REDLINING, STEERING, HOUSING DISCRIMINATION AND THEN BLAMING BLACK PEOPLE FOR THEM!! (AND IT’S STILL HAPPENING)

WHITENESS IS MOCKING SOMEONE ELSE’S CULTURE, STEALING IT AND THEN KILLING YOU OVER IT!!

WHITENESS IS SAYING THAT BLACK PEOPLE ARE PRONE TO CRIMINALITY EVEN THOUGH NO ONE COMMITS MORE CRIMES THAN WHITE PEOPLE AND WHITE PEOPLE ARE CONSIDERED THE COUNTRY’S BIGGEST TERROR THREAT!!

WHITENESS IS OPPRESSING BLACK PEOPLE AND THEN BLAMING THEM FOR SAID OPPRESSION!!

WHITENESS IS THE INABILITY TO DEAL WITH ANY HONEST CONVERSATION ABOUT RACE AND RACISM!! (MORE HERE)

Now none of this has anything to do with self love. This has everything to do with the reality that one can not be pro-black WITHOUT being anti-white because ^THIS^ is whiteness. 

I have never met a white person who was TRULY anti-racist who didn’t denounce whiteness. not one. 

I would suggest the following readings:

The Heart of Whiteness: Confronting Race, Racism and White Privilege

The Possessive Investment in Whiteness

The Wages of Whiteness 

Making Whiteness: The Culture of Segregation in the South

The Price of Whiteness

[beautifulteenageicon]

So do white people that haven’t adopted whiteness exist? How do you know which ones have and haven’t? Because I know some real good white people

[alwaysbewoke]

the best break down for how to spot what type of white identity you’re dealing with is below. 

[tzimiscelord]

The anti-white racism in this thread is incredible.

If someone makes a post about being racially tolerant and respecting others and you inmediately start bashing a race, you are the racist.

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@alwaysbewoke​ i think it’s time to stop wasting your energy on this white trash. white people ain’t gonna change bruh. they’d rather slop around like a pig in the mud in their lies. white fucks are just racist to their core and even when confronted with the hardcore facts, they’d rather cry foul than commit to change. let this dude get back to fucking his sister bro. 

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[nevaehtyler]

Glad there are people who understand that

[alwaysbewoke]

here is why this is NOT true. white people are MARRIED to the racial construct that is “whiteness.” not flirting, not dating, not texting, not sexting, not engaged to.. married. long term. and as such they make decision in favor of their race out of motivation to see their race succeed. they’ve built an entire country on the premise of giving white people a leg up on everyone even if it meant the use of brutal force in additional to lies, half truths and etc. this is the very basis of whiteness upon which white people of built their idea of self. you CAN NOT be pro-black without being anti-white because pro-blackness calls for the destruction of white supremacy and white privilege which undergirds whiteness and white identity. it’s like stokely carmichael said “for racism to die, a totally different america must be born. this is what the white society does not wish to face; this is why that society prefers to talk about integration. but integration speaks not at all to the problem of poverty, only to the problem of blackness. integration today means the man who ‘makes it,’ leaving his black brothers behind in the ghetto as fast as his new sports car will take him. it has no relevance to the harlem wino or to the cotton-picker making three dollars a day…. integration, moreover, speaks to the problem of blackness in a despicable way. as a goal, it has been based on complete acceptance of the fact that in order to have a decent house or education, blacks must move into a white neighborhood or send their children to a white school. this reinforces, among both black and white, the idea that ‘white’ is automatically better and ‘black’ is by definition inferior.”

there’s a reason why whenever black people talk about racism, white supremacy, white privilege, white ignorance, white inaction and etc, white people overall lose their shit. the reason is because white people have built their entire sense of self on whiteness which is built on lies and oppression. to be pro-black is to be anti-white. as long as white people define themselves in any way shape or form with whiteness as a social construct, pro-blackness will ALWAYS be ANTI-WHITE. always. 

and bullshit like this just makes wonder why? is still about being in white people’s good graces? why? after EVERYTHING white people have done and continue to do to black people, why the flying fuck do you care of your pro-blackness is anti-white? this is some fuckery to still care what your slavemaster still thinks about you and your movement to gain your freedom. reminds me again of what stokely carmichael said “black power can be clearly defined for those who do not attach the fears of white america to their questions about it.“ 

you think such nonsensical thinking is going to stop white oppression? white people see racism as a zero sum game! and millennials? millennials are just as racist as their parents! 

and please, miss me with the “not all white people” nonsense.

[deathanddeers-deactivated202108]

I like how OP’S message was positive and actually seems like it came from the concept of equality but then….this person chimes in and reminds me of everything wrong with this movement’s members and why I don’t care to associate with it. Good job. -Billy

[askrednetthall]

As an educated black guy sadly I somewhat have to agree If you want an example of how the second person’s rant is true my step mom who is very successful knows a lot of white people but doesn’t associate with a lot of black people and when she was naming my little sister she named her “Madison” instead of a “ghetto name” in fear that when would not get a respectable job simply on her name. *Sigh* Really this mindset is made because in a way it is the only way black people will have any way of getting ahead even if it means stepping over the one who can’t

[alwaysbewoke]

your mom had to be conscious of how white people would treat your sister because white people who have adopted whiteness (which is the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY) aren’t going to call back your sister if she submits a resume with a black sounding name. that’s white people because that’s whiteness. you can not be pro-black without being anti-white because these are the social norms and constructs that white people not only have created but continue to perpetuate till this day. 

as someone with hiring power, i go out of my way to look for black people to hire because i know that my hr department filled with WHITE PEOPLE aren’t going to give tyrone, laquisha, malik, kenyatta or kiesha a fucking chance no matter how talented they are. why? because white people have been programmed by whiteness to see black people as inferior. to fight against that will bring head on with white people and whiteness.

however let’s be real. there’s no changing a group of people who can’t even admit that enjoy privilege in this society, can never admit or do right by natives, made a holiday celebrating a man who discovered nothing but killed and enslaved thousands (if not millions), etched into the side of a mountain racists and slave owners, turned “monday” into a slur, responds to any highlighting of their own criminality with “what about black on black crime tho?,” and made it a point to silence black people responding to a history of brutal racist policing with “all lives matter.” hell white people are powering the push the presidency of a man who has been so over the top with his racism, it feels like a throwback to the 60s and 70s when white people running for office would say shit like “elect me and i’ll make sure no nigger…” so no, this post isn’t for white people. i expect them to come up with all types of excuses. truth is not a part of their culture. it’s for black people to wake up and stop worrying about white people and whether or not they think the black movement for our liberation is “anti-white.” fuck’em. we owe them NOTHING. and guess what, it’s going to get anti-white because nothing about whiteness respects blackness. so stop trying to please them.

lastly, if you’re pro-black and you don’t make white people nervous…

[blackourstory]

I fux with @alwaysbewoke forever for breaking this reality down to its most essential. In a country founded upon white supremacy being pro-Black IS being “anti-white.” And if you, as a Black person, can only be your pro-Black self when/if you can balance that with white folks feelings in mind… just go ahead and become a 100% generically American dark-skinned white person. That’ll be easier for you than attempting to become a cracker-approved pro-Black person.

[alwaysbewoke]

[playygrl-deactivated20221219]

This is hard to agree with. Because I for sure don’t give a damn about the approval from white people, but I’m not anti-white. I can sit down and be around white people. I have white friends. I find some white people genuinely fun to be around. But these are white people who respect me and my opinions, who never cross that line of being disrespectful, or who are blinded by their white privilege. You don’t have to dislike white people to love yourself.

I’m pro black because I’m black and I love it and I stand behind it and it’ll forever be apart of me in every aspect and I accept it. It don’t have shit to do with a white Person.

I don’t hate white people, I just love myself.

[beyonslaying]

^^^there we go

[alwaysbewoke]

@aherringwrites  

you’ve decided to overlook a very important part in my statement. white people who have adopted whiteness. whiteness as an ideology has no respect for blackness. that is a historical fact. across the world, white people who have adopted whiteness have belittled, raped, plundered and even murdered people of color. “whiteness” isn’t “i was born white” or “i’m a white boy, girl, man or woman. whiteness is a way of viewing yourself, the world, your relationship to the world and the resulting cultural norms, ideas, policies and actions that come out of that. as such whiteness hold no regard or respect for blackness and the vast vast vast VAST majority of white people have adopted whiteness. worse still, whiteness as an ideology is something adopted by even NON-white people as well including black people (see stacey dash, don lemon). it is something that can also be rejected as well as adopted and no truly anti-racist fails to reject whiteness.

this is what whiteness does to black people

WHITENESS WON’T GIVE BLACK KIDS IN NEED OF PAIN MEDICATION THE AMOUNT NEEDED BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE BLACK PEOPLE CAN JUST HANDLE PAIN!!

WHITENESS IS KILLING A 12 YEAR OLD BLACK KID PLAYING ALONE WITH A TOY AND THEN DEFAMING HIM BY CALLING HIM A THUG AND BRINGING UP HIS PARENTS CRIMINAL HISTORY!!

WHITENESS IS SHEDDING TEARS OVER A GORILLA BUT TELLING BLACK PEOPLE THEY SHOULD SHUT UP ABOUT BEING KILLED BY COPS!!

WHITENESS IS DEMANDING THAT BLACK PEOPLE MOURN THE DEATH OF COPS WHO MOST LIKELY WOULD PROFILE THEM, ABUSE THEM, KILL THEM AND COVER IT UP!!

WHITENESS IS CREATING THE MYTH CALLED “BLACK ON BLACK CRIME” AND USING IT TO HALT ANY DISCUSSION OR MOVEMENT AGAINST THE VIOLENCE OF WHITE SUPREMACY!! (MORE HERE & HERE)

WHITENESS IS WHITE PEOPLE OVERWHELMING GIVING AMERICAN POLICE A POSITIVE RATING WHILE THEY KILL US!!

WHITENESS IS SAYING THAT THE BLACK PANTHERS WERE JUST LIKE THE KKK!!

WHITENESS IS SEEING RACISM AS ZERO SUM GAME!!!

WHITENESS STARTING A FALSE DRUG WAR TO STOP THE ADVANCEMENT OF BLACK PEOPLE!!

WHITENESS IS DESIRING TO GO BACK TO THE 1950’S SO THEY CAN LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE BLACK PEOPLE ARE MORE OPPRESSED!!

WHITENESS IS WHITE PEOPLE CREATING GHETTOS THROUGH REDLINING, STEERING, HOUSING DISCRIMINATION AND THEN BLAMING BLACK PEOPLE FOR THEM!! (AND IT’S STILL HAPPENING)

WHITENESS IS MOCKING SOMEONE ELSE’S CULTURE, STEALING IT AND THEN KILLING YOU OVER IT!!

WHITENESS IS SAYING THAT BLACK PEOPLE ARE PRONE TO CRIMINALITY EVEN THOUGH NO ONE COMMITS MORE CRIMES THAN WHITE PEOPLE AND WHITE PEOPLE ARE CONSIDERED THE COUNTRY’S BIGGEST TERROR THREAT!!

WHITENESS IS OPPRESSING BLACK PEOPLE AND THEN BLAMING THEM FOR SAID OPPRESSION!!

WHITENESS IS THE INABILITY TO DEAL WITH ANY HONEST CONVERSATION ABOUT RACE AND RACISM!! (MORE HERE)

Now none of this has anything to do with self love. This has everything to do with the reality that one can not be pro-black WITHOUT being anti-white because ^THIS^ is whiteness. 

I have never met a white person who was TRULY anti-racist who didn’t denounce whiteness. not one. 

I would suggest the following readings:

The Heart of Whiteness: Confronting Race, Racism and White Privilege

The Possessive Investment in Whiteness

The Wages of Whiteness 

Making Whiteness: The Culture of Segregation in the South

The Price of Whiteness

[beautifulteenageicon]

So do white people that haven’t adopted whiteness exist? How do you know which ones have and haven’t? Because I know some real good white people

[alwaysbewoke]

the best break down for how to spot what type of white identity you’re dealing with is below. 

[tzimiscelord]

The anti-white racism in this thread is incredible.

If someone makes a post about being racially tolerant and respecting others and you inmediately start bashing a race, you are the racist.

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